A Norse-Gothic Comparison

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @kadmii
    @kadmii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    it's interesting the way in which Gothic shows that the Germanic languages were much more reminiscent of Latin and Greek RIGHT BEFORE the Dark Ages and then underwent rapid change through syncopating unstressed syllables

  • @kenlenheld3435
    @kenlenheld3435 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Volume on your videos is quite low. Makes it difficult to follow on phones and pads. Love the content and information, keep it up!

    • @UnshavenStatue
      @UnshavenStatue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      tru, stands out when scrolling thru shorts as well

    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      it used to bother me a little, but then i got some better sound stuff (upgraded from potato to advanced potato)

    • @HaraZen13
      @HaraZen13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have been following this channel for a few years now, and I have never had such experience, and I only watch from a smart phone, and have done so from different brands, and models.
      If it were the video, it would impact everyone viewing. It's far more likely to be a problem with your device, or your connection - not the video.

    • @casthedemon
      @casthedemon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      First time? That's kind of a staple of this channel lmao.

    • @casthedemon
      @casthedemon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@HaraZen13no it's a definitely a running theme. Everyone is just used to it.

  • @SparkyTheWise
    @SparkyTheWise 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have to thank you for the great educational value in your channel, however I was wondering: would you please do a video on depictions of Asgard and its many halls? I am wondering how they all looked

  • @James-sq7hr
    @James-sq7hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I really enjoyed this video; I enjoy the Old Norse videos, but I haven't studied ON, yet (although I 've recently bought some good books on it), w/ the bulk of my studies in Old Gmc languages being confined to OE (&, to a lesser extent, OHG) & Gothic, so this video was an interesting comparison to me.

  • @mattbarclay
    @mattbarclay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome vid, especially as a student of both. Fascinating.

  • @BillyCaswell
    @BillyCaswell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The leather jacket is so good it's almost the main character of these videos

  • @fjallaxd7355
    @fjallaxd7355 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video.

  • @johnlarue697
    @johnlarue697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Many thanks for this rare comparsion of Old Norse and Gothic using the New Testament. I was having a hard time following some the comparisons between the two languages. Around 8:20 you mentioned that "you can tell the Old Norse were conveted by Latin speakers because of their inflection of Jesus..." on the contrary, would it appear that speakers/writers of Gothic were converted by Greek speakers? The answer may have been implicit to an astute linguist.

    • @ur-nammu
      @ur-nammu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's correct. Not only does the Gothic transliteration of Iesuis more closely resemble the Greek Iesous, but we also know that the Goths came into contact with Greek-speaking Christians in Eastern Europe; Wulfila, the author of the Gothic Bible, spoke Greek; and the Gothic alphabet was based on the Greek alphabet rather than the related Latin alphabet.

  • @lennsisson
    @lennsisson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Love your videos! A note about "villain" being "someone who lives on a villa". At the end of the Roman Empire, many of the very wealthy Romans retreated to their country estates, fortified them as best they could, and hired small armies of mercenaries to protect them. In many cases, these armies were made up of people who were little more than thugs and criminals with minimal training, but with the ability to fight. So, it's little wonder to me that the term for people living on a villa might quickly become a pejorative for an evil or criminal person.

    • @nocturne000
      @nocturne000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a great theory. Makes perfect sense when you put it like that.

    • @charlesbourgoigne2130
      @charlesbourgoigne2130 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This honestly blows my mind

  • @thogameskanaal
    @thogameskanaal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I gotta be honest, written Gothic looks like spoken late Proto-Germanic, but written phonetically rather than in a formulaic & fossilized runic tradition, like the vowel in the -az suffix finally dropping out of spelling.
    ...or something like that. Just thinking out loud 🤔

  • @gokickrocks
    @gokickrocks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jackson, have you heard of the barren valley petroglyph site in oregon? I believe there is nordic writings on a boulder there, I would love to send you some pics of these if possible. I hope you see this comment.

    • @gavinrogers5246
      @gavinrogers5246 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If there is "Nordic" stuff there, they're forgeries.

  • @Ghazghkull460
    @Ghazghkull460 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you seen pagan minstrel cover "valhalla calling" in old norse? Thought you might find it neat.

  • @Pugilist379
    @Pugilist379 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m trying to find a reliable index for PIE reconstructions, and don’t like using AI. I’m interested in etymological roots. Is there a ‘best’ resource for this?

  • @NamelessMF1658
    @NamelessMF1658 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gothic is quite different but incredibly fun to read and write in

  • @garrettneary3755
    @garrettneary3755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A bit off topic, but what style of cowboy hat are you wearing?

  • @TheJonasj12
    @TheJonasj12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    plsss I want a tattoo that says in futhark "Thorir carved these runes" or "These runes were carved by the man most skilled in runes in the western ocean" That could be so funny.
    And could you do a video about rune graffiti? :)

  • @raifkolbjornson
    @raifkolbjornson หลายเดือนก่อน

    I took Gothic in school and thought it was the coolest thing ever in a LOTR sort of way, archaic and "original". I made the mistake of learning more about Germanic and IE and came to realize that Gothic was just another stage in a dialect continuum (except it dead-ended). Oh well. And as you say there is nothing to read in it except bits of the Bible, and that in "translatorese".

  • @UnshavenStatue
    @UnshavenStatue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I understand correctly that sunjos is cognate to modern english sooth?

    • @swalhal3701
      @swalhal3701 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep. it's cognate to both "sin" and "sooth" but not to the verb soothe which is unrelated to the previous words

  • @נדב_חומסקי
    @נדב_חומסקי 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ᛁᚠ᛫ᚦᚢ᛫ᚢᛁᛚᛏ᛫ᚠᚢᛚᚴᚬᛘᛁᚾ᛫ᚢᛁᚱᛅ᛫ᛁ᛫ᚠᚱᚬᚦᛚᛁᚴ᛫ᚦᛅ᛫ᚾᛁᛘ᛫ᚦᚢ᛫ᛅᛚᛅᛦ᛫ᛏᚢᚾᚴᚢᛦ᛫ᛁᚾ᛫ᛏᛁᚾ᛫ᚦᚬ᛫ᛁᚴᛁ᛫ᛅᛏ᛫ᚼᛁᛚᛏᛦ᛫ᚦᛁᚾᛁ᛫ᛏᚢᚾᚴᚢ
    (Transliteration: if þu uilt fulgomin uira i froþlig þa nim þu alaʀ tunguʀ in tin þo igi at hiltʀ þini tungu;
    Transcription: ef þú vilt fullkominn vera í fróðleik þá nem þú allar tungur en týn þó eigi at heldr þinni tungu)

  • @oddmustelid4339
    @oddmustelid4339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    3 𐌸𐍂𐌴𐌹𐍃.

    • @clongshanks5206
      @clongshanks5206 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Somebody found the Lexilogos keyboard, huh?

  • @Vestlys1
    @Vestlys1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1

  • @soderlund3610
    @soderlund3610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Götaland, Gotland, Göteborg, Göte, Göthilda. Southern Sweden

  • @aelfredrex8354
    @aelfredrex8354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Goths that did not migrate now speak Swedish.

  • @asorlokirunarsson9864
    @asorlokirunarsson9864 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2

  • @Laurentio313
    @Laurentio313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dr. Crawford, have you ever considered investing in a microphone?

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just needs compressor/limiter, can even do that in post. Boost like +10 db my suggestion, turn it up slightly, make sure nothing peaks, and 0 it out. All of that is in Audacity for free.

    • @hive_indicator318
      @hive_indicator318 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, he has. As he has said numerous times. Have you considered investing in "not being a jerk to strangers" lessons? Because you're obviously new here. Might as well complain how he isn't pronouncing the Icelandic correctly

    • @Laurentio313
      @Laurentio313 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hive_indicator318Why hasn't he bought one then??

    • @demi3115
      @demi3115 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hive_indicator318 Asking a question is considered being a jerk? Christ.
      Follow your own advice.

  • @Judesmood118
    @Judesmood118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quinque 🏛️

  • @y11971alex
    @y11971alex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    xšuuah 😅

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gothic is nothing that any Viking age North German or later would recognize. It is similar to Proto-Norse, but also that language has changed to be unrecognizable since after the Viking age.

    • @redwaldcuthberting7195
      @redwaldcuthberting7195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think it's true that they wouldn't understand a thing. The again I'm no expert.Some Guitisk below from Lambdins Introduction to Ancient Languages: Gothic. The old Saxon is my own translation. By North German I assume you mean North Germany thus old Saxon and not North Germanic ie Norse. old Saxon had is and ist, like Gutisk had ist, all from PG * isti.
      Singular nominative 'the or that ship'
      Thata skip in Gutisk 'the or that ship'
      That skip- Sahsisk
      Sa hunds in Gutisk 'the hound'- Gutisk
      Se hund sahsisk
      Sa fisks- Gutisk
      Se fisk- sahsisk
      Sa thuidans siuks ist 'the king is sick'
      se thiodan siok ist/is (saksisk old saxon)
      Sa thiudans ist mikils-Gutisk
      Sa thiodan/kuning ist/is mikil-Sahsisk
      Hwar ist sa thiudans? Where is the king? Gutisk didn't have a variant of king, see kongungr, cyning, kuning all from *kuningaz.
      Hwar is/ist se kuning/thiodan?

    • @MixerRenegade95
      @MixerRenegade95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@redwaldcuthberting7195 Ya know from all those Words for King You have below one would presume that ''Kuniggs'' is the right reconstruction.

    • @redwaldcuthberting7195
      @redwaldcuthberting7195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, you mean for Gutisk as gg means ng Not sure why such a word isn't attested in Gutisk tbh. .

  • @djedeye
    @djedeye 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    T and H, TH is D... Dor and Thor are gods.. the same. Could Goths simply mean gods? If not can we say it may be and add it the list of plausibilities.

    • @redwaldcuthberting7195
      @redwaldcuthberting7195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you mean? Thor isn't attested in Gutisk. Also Thor would likely look more like PG *thunraz in Gutisk. See Proto-Norse * þonaraʀ>thor. At a guess if thunraz got into Gutisk it'd look something like *thunrs or maybe thunja for 'thunderer' probably wrong in my guesses.

  • @marchauchler1622
    @marchauchler1622 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No it is Germanic and not German. Neither German nor Germany existed back then.

  • @Fluent-in-Fuþark
    @Fluent-in-Fuþark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Crawford, I feel like you are the official prophet of Asatru.
    Abraham
    Jesus
    Mohammed
    Crawford
    I’m being facetious….

    • @nocturne000
      @nocturne000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s interesting. A knowledgeable expert on old Norse, who doesn’t push any sort of spirituality and has been fairly clear on how little we know about how people worshiped those particular Gods, seems like a prophet of a religion that believes in said Gods?
      I am in no way whatsoever trying to belittle people beliefs, as far as I’m concerned, faith is an incredibly personal thing and I don’t discredit anybody’s faith, or at least I try my best not to. That being said I’m just curious about what you mean. I think the idea of a very well studied person with no hidden motives, teaching Old Norse and other related things, being respected by those who’s faith is Asatru is cool.
      I mean I can’t tell how serious your comment is, I mean it could be a joke and I’m just a doofus who fell for it, but if that’s not the case I’m curious why someone who practices said beliefs might view Dr. Crawford this way. And I ask that respectfully, curiosity being my only motive, holding no other intent, if you’d be kind enough to take the time to answer. Take care.

    • @nocturne000
      @nocturne000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-it9jf5ox8k Oh ok. I guess my mind was stuck on preconceptions of the more "popular" religions, or however you'd describe them. Well the way you put it makes it sound like something I want to look more into. The idea at the head of that "religion" is certainly something that interests me. Thank you kindly for the explanation, and showing me just how pigeon-holed my thinking was.

    • @Fluent-in-Fuþark
      @Fluent-in-Fuþark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also I was being facetious.
      My grandfather is 100% Danish and when he came to Canada he wore thors hammer and the teachers in elementary school made him take it off because they thought it was an upside down cross. The best way to describe asatru is each god is a room in your mind palace, when you pray or mediate find that calm connecting state with your deity “Odin wisdom” your seeking guidance for a task, just taking a moment to connect and get grounded. The more you do it and find your formula the better you’ll feel and the easier it becomes to find the answers within yourself. This is the best way to describe it to someone who thinks Asatru falls into the same category as “a one and only that you pray too directly”.
      Some people say Allah “for followers of Islam” has all the answers, Odin teaches us YOU must seek wisdom. YOU must be hospitable, YOU must be battle ready. The havamal guides us on how.
      How I interpret the havamal is I must
      Read
      Work out
      Eat healthy
      Be trust worthy
      Don’t sleep in
      Express my love and gratitude to every member of my family every day.
      Everyday I make a point to sped money in someone some how, preferably a child. 25cent gum, cup of coffee etc.
      Be honourable
      Be respectful & respect worthy.
      It’s a literal step by step guide on how to live life.
      When you leave your house are you prepared for the day? Did you have a balanced breakfast? Did you read & write a little something? Did you pray or mediate? Did you express your love to your loved ones? Are you battle ready? You could get mugged at any point. Wisdom is a big part of asatru I make a point to read educational literature and do a little writing, some poetry of my own, I’ve taken up drawing ✍️ and I do do random math problem before bed to whine down. I’m not trying to preach this is a very quick understanding from my view point of the havamal.