Joe Rogan, “Muay Thai’s The MOST INSANE Sport”
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2023
- Chael Sonnen talks Joe Rogan on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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All things UFC and MMA with the undefeated Bad Guy, Chael Sonnen. UFC Champions, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Colby Covington, Khamzat Chimaev, the MMA hour and commentary on the latest UFC news, UFC Champions in 2022, UFC knockouts and finishes. - บันเทิง
The intro to this video could apply to Chael except in almost exact opposite words. “The coolest thing about Chael Sonnen is that he knows he’s Chael Sonnen and he knows Chael Sonnen is cool. That’s one of the reasons we like him”
Finally The Chael has come back to TH-cam
Facts
Cringe
Nailed it. I love Chael, just because of what it feels like to be mesmerized, Having chills run up my spine, to be here in Chaels Octagon, on Chaels Channel, holding Chaels microphone, interviewing Chael!
Uncle Chael
I would love to see Chael back on the JRE very soon.
100 percent
I think he just went on and he’s hinting at the shirt he will wear so we know to go buy it
the Joe Rogan Program
Yup we need chael sonnen on joe rogan
why is Chaels face turning into Matt Hughes
Coolest thing about Chael is that Chael can feel it.
"So here's the thing about 'feeling it'..."
One Championship is where it’s at. The most entertaining sport to watch is Muay Thai by farrrrrr.
One is freaking amazing. Their women are bad asses too
ONE is where it's at! That should be their slogan. I say it all the time. Lol
I just wish they would quit doing events in boxing rings. It makes for terrible MMA fights. I will turn it off if it's not in a cage.
Been doing Thai boxing for about a year now, and after several ass whoopings in sparring and clinching, there’s no sport I ever loved more. The conditioning is awesome, the brotherhood created is long lasting and the culture of the sport in itself is beautiful. The Thai did a great job with it over the decades 🙌🏻
you mean over the centuries
@@HornetLarry
I don't think it has been a sport for that long.
Depending on your your definition of sport, that is. MT has been around since the 13th century AD no matter what you call this cultural phenomenon: a sport, a competition, a hobby, self-defense/army technique or just a show for the royalty to indulge.
@@HornetLarry
I meant Spectator Sport.
I know MT is a centuries old Martial art.
I don't think it was accessible for large part of the population for most of it's history.
@@Red_Neck started in the early 1930's before it was taught in the military american kickboxing started by joe lewis started 30 years or so later
ONE fighting made a brilliant move with that Amazon deal. I watch it once a month and really enjoy the shows. Muay Thai, grappling, and mma fights all on the same guard. It’s really fun.
Chael should go on the JRE again soon😁
Was like 10 years ago wasnt it? Would be very cool to have retired chael on.
The Contender series with Yodsaenklai & JWP got millions of people into fighting, and one of the big reasons why MMA grew was people saying Muay Thai fighters weren’t complete fighters off the back of the popularity of Muay Thai, but the truth is nobody likes to watch 25 minutes of grappling. Muay Thai was king before that, and for the most part the best MMA fights are the ones where people stand up and fight.
My 16 year old started Mauy Thai a couple months ago.... With zero influence from me, he chose that sport above all the rest. I agree there's a bright future for it.
Probably not as bright as its past but maybe
Cte
@@Pirocharmnot as much as boxing and kickboxing due to the clinch and a focus on kicks
@@Pirocharm MT is super technical and it is something Thais do from early age and retire in their 40's.
Of course it won't work if kid loves playboy life but most of them are disciplined and focused...
Best choice out of all of them, the hate in the comments is funny, 'CTE' comment from someone who doesn't do it or has bad sparring partners
The title of this video mentions Muay Thai but Chael mentions Kickboxing for 98% of the video. Joe was trying to promote Muay Thai which is different from kickboxing and adds more elements to stand up. I'm not sure where Chael is going with this video but Muay Thai would be a huge success seeing its popularity blow up more from the fights at ONE championship.
Exactly. 🎯
Chael is still right though, it’s Chael
Was literally gonna comment this, thank you 🙏🏻
Yeah but let’s not forget chael is always right even when he’s wrong
Undefeated
My brother always says “Most MMA fans are just kickboxing fans that don’t know kickboxing exists”
I don't agree with that. I train bjj, boxing, muay thai, and kickboxing(for mma). I train at many places. I don't like watching kickboxing. I don't like watching boxing. I don't like watching bjj. I find them to be boring. Yes, you can point to the smaller percentage of matches that are good but they are boring. But I love MMA more than anything.
@@bane3991 its a joke dude. What he means is most casual MMA fans only like to see striking
@@bane3991clearly wasn’t talking about you man
The fact that Muay Thai (not kickboxing) is not as big as boxing & MMA is a crime against humanity.
I've lived in Thailand for 2 out of the last 4 years, living and training at different muay thai gyms and it's fu**ing amazing the sport the tradition the respect, the damage the excitement and so and so on....but bro how can you say knees and elbows are too vicious? lol. Pure Muay Thai is the best man people need to see
How much would you estimate it costs to live and train Muy Thai in Thailand?
I'm glad Joe's power isnt noticed by the masses,
because I've never seen anyone as responsible with his level of influence
Tell that to my fleshlight collection
Irresponsible you mean
That man never put anyone in trouble, he does not gamble , unlike his boss , yes , he has his quirks but hey - he is a pioneer in podcast field , he tries supplements and chems , he enjoys his life. I don't see why not listen to him
@@blaze556922how is he irresponsible? Are you a stay home stay safe fat guy?
Meh, I don't think it should be on Joe if some idiot takes everything he says as the word of god.
Kickboxing is pretty big here in Holland, would be nice to see it grow bigger.
Muay Thai is pretty awesome! I watch ONE Friday Fights every... well... Friday.
Watching this as grappling is on in One, Muay Thai is electric, very quickly became my favourite over MMA
I love MMA , but I agree it would be cool if other combat sports like Wrestling ,judo , jiujitsu , and Muay Thai was more popular
Karate Combat is dope and worth a look 💯
That's one of the things ONE FC does better than UFC. MMA is great but watching highly specialized martial artist would also be cool.
Having a Muay Thai/Kickboxing division would definitely be a huge success. Especially since people (in general) love striking far more than grappling.
I suspect Dana believes that setting divisions for other fighting sports would cut into MMA viewership and that's why he hasn't done. Although all views would go to the event at the end of day.
Anyway I'd love to see a Kickboxing and a BJJ division someday. Let other martial artist get that bread and the spotlight.
The western audience needs to be introduced to Tawanchai, Superlek, Rodtang, etc... They would attract so many people.
...kickboxing...
@@NA-su3jkwtf is the difference between kickboxing and muy Thai
@@paradigmshift7541 Kickboxing uses boxing gloves exclusively. Elbows and clinching not allowed.
In Muay Thai - they can either use traditional boxing gloves, or mma gloves. They can use elbow, can hold and fight in the clinch, they can hold the leg if they catch a kick (for a limited time to perform counters but cannot hold it for long) and can also throw opponents to the ground which are scored in the judging.
“Hey Jamie, pull up the video of the bear fighting a coked up gorilla over some DMT infused elk meat”
The dinosaurs looked at Chael Sonnen the wrong way once. You know what happened to them.
Dinosaurs never existed
They devolved into chickens.
He wrestlehumped them into birds
I love chael but insisting dinosaurs didn’t exist is just crazy.
Nerd
"Knees and elbows are too viscious...."
Chael said as he repressed the memories of the Jon Jones fight once again.... 😂
People actually don’t know Joe Rogan has been saying the ufc should do kickboxing for years
One FC has some of the best fights out there. Both MT and Kick Boxing. Y'all should check it out
Agreed, don’t know how ONE isn’t more popular. A couple of guys that were training at the same gym as me in Thailand fight on the promotion and I got hooked watching their matches. Some electric fights
Kickboxing Is almost different than Muay Thai
Yep. An elbow to the face literally hits different.
It's very different. The clinch game in Muay Thai is huge.
@@jcheever37 The clinch game used to be huge in kickboxing until they changed the rules, its still a big training aspect and in some big promotions.
Joe was talking about Muay Thai, not kickboxing, as I remember it. I think Muay Thai would DEFINITELY do VERY well in the US. If they managed to make “Power Slap” work, Muay Thai will be HUGE!!
I love watching the old K1 heavyweight fights.
The eye test never fails w/ uncle chael…nor with us, THE FANDOM…”& NOT FOR NOTHIN’…” 💪
It’s Tren Sonnen the people’s champ
He really has a way about these rants that make you feel like your having a conversation with him . Deff the true voice of ufc
Is he?
Chael is the real deal. I agree would love to see this come true
Lethwei is definitely the craziest fighting sport, those headbutt techniques are *BRUTAL*
Beat me too it. Not much shocks me anymore but watching some of those fights gave me the same vibe as when I first saw early UFC events in the 90s. I was like “whoa!”
A to the men…it’s like mixing Muay Thai , the international vale tudo championship, and an acid trip during a manic episode….
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I follow One FC aswell as the UFC.
They do this in One FC.
Sometimes a single card will have Kickboxing, Muay Thai, MMA and Grappling Submission on the same night
The fact dana said people wouldn't be interested in kickboxing is hilarious to me seeing how Dana started his own slap fighting
If you think about how many people likes striker matchup in mma, i can see how kick boxing brought to the masses could be highly popular
If Chael and Joe are the commentators of kickboxing, I'm in for the first 10-20 ppvs to see where that show goes. If one of them isn't associated in that capacity, it's going to be missing something gravely for the start of that business. Even with them, they'll probably need supporting commentators, but I think that's enough to start.
Another thing: Chael not being a UFC commentator up there with Anik, Bisping, Cruz, Daniel MF No Popeye's Cormier, and Joe is a TRAAAAAVESTY. I don't now who is responsible for making those decisions, but they're a dummy for not noticing Chael's absolutely dominance of storytelling -- the most influential and skill in human history -- as well as his ability to communicate at a high-level while navigating the pitfalls and traps attempted by others. It's damn astounding.
Chael is a Black Belt manipulator, blacksmith in crafting perspective, black tar heroin. Every sentence that comes out of this dude's mouth on social media is form of perspective manipulation, and he knows it. The MF could entertain a bus, or even a Nogueira brother.
Muay Thai is excellent as a fight sport, and would also welcome in other sports like Pradal Serey (Cambodian Kickboxing/free fighting) and Lethwei (Burmese Kickboxing).
The problem where Chael and I part ways is when he said that elbows and knees are too brutal.
If Joe wants to make just a kickboxing promotion, he'd be competing with Glory.
And that already has a lot of legendary fighters.
Joe SHOULD go with real Muay Thai, and include Pradal Serey and Lethwei (and other styles like Savate, and various styles of karate and striking who want to compete too) under rulesets that would include elbows and knees.
Everything else? Chael's 100% correct. If anyone could put it together, it would be someone with the influence of a Joe Rogan.
As soon as I saw the title, I could tell Uncle Chael was going to be talking about something other than Muay Thai.
Joe was talking about "Muay Thai" he didn't say Kick Boxing once
The title literally mentions Muay Thai but he talks about kickboxing for the whole video 😂
Joe rogan has been saying kickboxing is up next for years now are you stupid, multiple times he’s said the ufc should put money behind kickboxing
Chael at his best
Muay Thai is "kickboxing" Thailandese kickboxing
Almost every Muay Thai fight is a war
Nailed this one champ. There's a random video on TH-cam of a high level pool game where fedor gorst (who was a JRE guest) was playing. Joe was at the event as a spectator and somehow ended up in the commentary booth and the video BLEW UP! Dude wields crazy influence.
To have Joe Rogan at one of the best cards at "ONE Championship" for example, would be amazing!! Personally to meet Joe Rogan would be an honor!
If Dana ran a kick boxing promotion I'd watch it.
I would, too! Maybe after slap boxing finishes failing at the beginning of the year, he'll be more open.
Buy out GLORY and do what One FC is doing, mixed events.
If Dana ran a kick boxing promotion Chael would be the first saying is the best sport in the world 😂.
@@enzocabrera4440because Dana is a great fight promoter
At least Chael is true to the world of combat sports instead of things like darts unlike soooome people we know lol @@enzocabrera4440
Kickboxing with mma gloves and maybe some different round/time structure to separate itself from OneFC and traditional MT would be cool. Especially if Dana got behind it. And of course Rogan on the mic.
JR said Muay Thai but I’m not opposed to Kickboxing, however MT with MMA gloves like ONE with a ranking system & ruleset would probably thrive in America or better yet add it into the UFC
One fc is already doing this and it's awesome
Let’s face it, the best MMA fights are the ones where people stand-up and strike, nobody, not even BJJ guys like a fight with people grappling fro 25 minutes.
Yep, the grappling we love the most is the ‘smesh’ type the Dagestan guys do, where they pound you from the top. Not some BJJ guy stalling the fight by just laying there.
@@mfundimkhize3137pause
I knew chael would have something to say about this. Never even seen the clip, but i knew he would.
I think kickboxing would do well in the future, im mid 20s everyone i know loves it and younger people to, animes huge and fighting in general, everyone loves kickboxing
I really like the new studio/camera setup.. never lost a round baby
Hope to see Chael on Rogans show soon!
It’s always good to see chael talk about the joe rogan program
Tbh I’m no fan of boxing, fighting or even sports. I’m a comic book artist nerd and a HUGE fan of Joe Rogan. That speaks even more to his power and diverse mindset. He’s even got fans out here in the nerd world. That’s what makes him such a likeable person bc he can relate with everybody.
It will only become popular if they use 4oz gloves and allow knees and elbows. Basically it must be MMA without grappling. At least that's the only way I'd be interested.
Not a mention of ONE Championship Uncle? You need to sit down to some Nong O, Tawanchai, Rodtang, Haggarty, and Superbon fights because you will love em Unc... do it, Pizza and beer....
You got it in a very interesting way Chael. It has to come from some where, but preferably from the most organic way possible.I see Dana White as the man for the job. Great like always, your eyes locked to the camera is the ice on the cake, the difference of your channel. Cheers from Brasil.
Muay Thai! Not kickboxing. I’m a fan of Muay Thai. Joe commenting Muay Thai would be enormous!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Muay Thai is kickboxing it's just the rule set is different. The standard kickboxing rules is set by K1. But you have kickboxing styles like Savate where you wear shoes. You have Sanda which legalizes throws. You have Lethwei which has all the same rules as Muay Thai + head butting and they don't wear gloves. You have Filipino kickboxing (Yaw Yan) where they use elbows, knees, and a little bit of grappling. Me personally I am not really a fan of Muay Thai, I like savate (French kickboxing).
I never thought i would enjoy watching UFC over a boxing match being old & from the UK.
We all know what makes UFC king of sports over, bare knuckle, kick boxing ....etc
You have much more of a variation of combat under one roof.
"youve never done it" I actually have done it, and competed twice 😂 but chael says I havent so i guess it mustve been a dream
I love Chael because he knows he is Chael.
Chael despite being a wrestler, he was born Bangkok ready
Uncle Chael needs to go on Rogan again, my favorite episode to rewatch is the last one he was on, #822.
Chael being right as always, joe can pretty much do anything and be successful at this point
Bad guy inc hoodies this winter?
Kickboxing has a lot of great fighters and some the biggest mma stars were kickboxers like mirko cro cop, overeem, adesanya, pereira, chikadze, darren till, etc...
I think it's s great idea I miss the great fights in k1 that were on when I was a kid
I agree with Rogan. I would LOVE to see kickboxing get as big as MMA has. Dana needs to get rid of the stupid face slapping shit and redirect funds and promotions into kickboxing.
I thought the same thing when I saw him talking about kick boxing. I think he has everything but time to run it. He should hire Chael to be his Dana White.
EBI rules are clearly the best in grappling
The coolest thing about Chael is: he can't let you get close
Moey Thai
UFC should adopt the One Championship approach and branch out from MMA into Boxing (should acquire BKBC) & Muay Thai
Undefeated and Undisputed Champion Chael P. Sonnen
Chael Sonnen is the greatest champion
What's crazy is the fact that Dana would rather support & sponsor "slap fighting" over kickboxing. Hopefully Joe pointed that out to him.
There were some excellent and exciting KICKBOXERS in the UFC like Bas Rutten, Alistair Overeem, Jerome Le Banner, and Andrei Arlovski.
Rogan behind a kickboxing promotion would get my attention. 👊👍
Kick boxing was becoming more popular in the uk before mma took over n i havent seen any since in uk, we also used to get muay thai on tv in the 90s n it was mostly good shit imo.
I never even thought of it like this, Joe could do it, he might not want to do everything and only want to commentate. Great insight and take Chael!
Glory Kickboxing is phenomenal
Real Muay Thai is crazy, but Lethwei is even crazier. It’s basically Muay Thai with headbutts. I knew a guy in my gym who was a lethwei fighter who would go to Burma and fight. But he does both. Both Muay Thai in Thailand and Lethwei. Lethwei is nuts. If they can get bareknuckle fighting legalized, they can get Lethwei legalized in the USA. It’s only legal in Myanmar. I.e. Burma.
OneFC does moytie fights with MMA gloves
Kickboxing is already here.
One FC.
Muay thai is 10x more exciting than grappling/wrestling and over mma as well. I agree with Rogan definitely.
We need traditional Mauy Thai rules promotions/fights in the USA. More Muay Thai(usualy combined with BJJ) gyms exists that MMA gyms so the popularity exists at the ground level but will it translate to TV/streaming ratings?
He definitely is still living like he’s just one of the bros, and as much as the media would tell you otherwise, we love our based bros, like The Great Uncle Chael.
Kickboxing is huge in Europe.
chael co sign, if i wasnt in before im in now
This is an emotionally invested person. I’m in. 😊
Joe was never talking about Kick Boxing, he was talking about Muay Thai. Its like you talking about how much you love basketball and then someone comes and starts talking about yeh i love netball...Cmon Chael 😑😐😐
WTF - Joe Rogan was talking about Muay Thai?! Uncle Chael strikes again.
Joe's the man
Lord Chael was a muay thai champ in 2002, oregon state champ
I always love that Chael says basketball has one ruleset but the reality is that NFHS, NCAA, NBA, and FIBA all have different rulesets. Even further street ball has different rules, or more like lack thereof, and half court 3v3 tournaments have different rules. Even the court sizes are different and the official game ball is different too.
Throw ball in net
@@zbarneyz so you actually throw the ball through the rim a net is not even required. Handball is the sport when you throw the ball in a net. Lacrosse too.
@@michael95621 throw ball in rim
To be honest i think ONE gonna do fine on its own, Rodtan vs Superlek is at a million views right now on youtube, really no need to have anyone else step in, Glory is meh, but the talent pool is a bit lacking, i like the elbows and the knee's thats the science of 8 limbs, that IS true to tradition Muay Thai ... The best fights right now are happening at One Championship MT, hands down ... the best of the best, fighting for the top spot and there's non stop action and knockouts, and thats what people want to see ...
Whats crazy i just had this convo with my dad while watching strickland vs izzy. I said I wonder why there isnt a big company broadcasting kickboxing when most casual, and diehards love standup fightings. The casual and me feel like the ground game is boring. Thats y i follow boxing.
Glory and ONE are broadcasting it, you just have to tune in
@@thomasmacdonough288ONE is also making straight grappling matches on the same card as kickboxing matches so I get why some people aren’t tuning in
I’d watch a kickboxing event by Joe Rogan
Tito tapped
Edit. Rip Joe Rogan 8/11/67 - 9/29/23
I would love to see Kick boxing and Muay Thai to be more popular.
Joe going public about it just promotes ONE's Muay Thai and KB further. They are set over there already, and have signed the best in the world - fighters like Petrosyan, Allazov, Rodtang, Taewanchai, Superbon, and most recently Takeru. If UFC somehow goes this route, they are going to be class B, because the best guys are with ONE.
Cheal I need your take on Canelo Charlo before the fight
"He just described himself, he just doesn't know that!"
Exactly what I thought when I heard it.