Stacy, I am a DJ of 30 years. At a wedding this summer, I did a glowing heartfelt introduction of the father and bride dance… introduced them to the floor and one minute into the song realized I was calling her dad by the wrong name the entire time. My face was so red. Point is, mistakes happen to the best of us. And watching you in these videos, you are amazing at what you do.
Oof! I'm guessing that won't ever happen again anytime soon! Thanks for the compliment.. it's taken years in training to get this far - some days I still feel like I'm in training!
I have a huge level of gig-stress whenever there is a threat of rain. Especially when we are completely exposed and are doing it for a discounted rate. I can see where you might feel the pressure to wrap up quickly and get everything under cover. Tough lesson but we have all been there. All of us! Love your channel. Keep your pow(d)er dry!
Thank you! In all of the years doing this, we have never been completely dumped on (very close once), but the stress can be a lot and we have heard some pretty bad stories!
Direct is how things are going to the shows we have been attending lately and its nice to have a clean mix in the audience without hearing a guitar punch through the mix!! now with AxeFX and various other hardware amps are a thing of the past or for cork sniffers lol
It's disheartening when a musician can't see the big picture....they have this "great sounding" amp that literally blows up and ruins the FOH mix because they can't control the volume....that great sounding amp just made your band sound like shit....sorry, but that's the absolute truth and drives me crazy! Thankfully, we are fortunate enough to work with clients that get it.
@@thesoundcouple been in too many bands that can't kick their amp habit! And yes, the live mix sounded like donkey doo, and always because the guitar amp overpowered the band!
Another very instructive time with the Sound Couple. Thanks for continuing to share your gigs with us. I especially appreciated your explanation of the use of a matrix to feed the center-fill and side-fill speakers.
Thanks Dean! I am glad the explanation made sense. I hope that some our simplified approach to address unique situations is helping people out. Not everything requires complexity to get the job done well!
Another great video and fab insight into the use of the side fills. The band is really tight and the new drummer was spot on. Stacey, don’t beat yourself up, we all make mistakes, you held your hand up, good on you. We once finished a set and our bass player was keen to pack up and started unplugging power and unplugged the DJ who still had an hour set to play 😂. We ribbed him mercilessly for a long time after that 😂
This is a great venue. Very weird compared to standard venues. I didn't use any fills last year, but I may consider it if I find myself.there again. Great show!
Hi Bill - It appears you are familiar with this place! We found they "sort of expected" that we would cover these areas, specifically up the side to the food trucks.
Don't sweat it Stacy. We've all done it. I was working as stage manager supporting a 9 piece horn band. It was an outdoor gig at my local amphitheatre for a Brew Festival. Singer's wireless was dropping out. I waved to FOH multiple times, but they were busy not watching the stage. There were 5 people in the FOH tent. So I said screw it. I unplugged the wireless. "POP". Then I plugged in a wired SM58. "POP". That got FOH's attention. Later FOH engineer started on me about unplugging the cables during the show. I told him that you had 5 people in the tent and no one was paying attention. He said I should have ran to FOH. I said you need to watch the stage. I'm 6'4" 350 pounds. I'm hard to miss. Since then, no more distractions allowed in the FOH tent.
Love the story and the outcome! Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to make the gig successful! (And give "subtle" reminders to even the seasoned pros!)
Thanks for watching - it's always fun to hear where people are watching from, and what parts are relatable or a new learning experience. Still have many more to come!
Interesting gig. Matrix mixes certainly make life a bit easier. Only critical factor in those spaces is the weather as you well know. Enjoying your videos 🖖
Matrix functionality in the digital world and specifically with the PreSonus Series 3 takes it to a new level. PreSonus did this well in that's it's easy to do and very flexible. I think we are back next year so we have another chance to wrestle with the weather!
Nice video with the sound coverage for the event, you 2 always do a good job explaining your step by step process so thanks for that however it was a bit of an awkward ending. Keep the love!
Thanks John - What you see is what you get...we don't typically do multiple takes or script things out. In this case, we fumbled a couple of takes so we were getting ancy to get out. If it was my attitude towards the mishap, well that may be valid, but pushing ourselves to be better and to think is in my DNA. Trust me, the dynamic can both ways and she knows how to put me in my place as well!
We have the CDL12’s. Not sure if they are the exact same size or not- I’m sure a simple call to presonus may answer that! They can be a pain to put on- but we do have a video that covers that!
@@OscarBA2011 We would recommend looking at other options as well, such as Undercover covers. Their stuff is high quality but you would need to contact them to see what their design would be. From our experience, we are not happy with the PreSonus bags, but surprisingly they are holding up better than we would have thought because they are not high quality.
Hey Stacy thanks for what you do...we all mess up...many times I've started song off in the wrong key...embarrassing at the time but I laugh about it now.
Good GiG, and Stacy don't be to hard for yourselves. Pro's makes mistakes to that's the proof of being human 🙂 i made them myself to and I'm not a pro but the band / audience thinks you are a pro of you run it several times faultless. I would love to join you two at some gigs just to learn from the best 🙂🔊
You are awesome guys, love your videos. i have one question. You never realy talked about drum microphones. Which microphones do you use on drums? And do u use overheads on drums?
Our common drum package includes Sennheiser 604's for toms and snare. Shure Beta 52 for kick and Oktava condenser for HH and Overheads. In this video, the band provides their own mics which are Audix mics - D6 on the kick...not sure what the other ones are.
Why I have a 2 in 4 stereo copy rack unit now! I can copy my mains to 3 other pairs of Auxiliary Mains! Downside, is its analog. If I could find a digitally controlled one, that would be awesome!
For clarification, we have worked with them for quite a few years now, more over the past few. If you are referencing the prior video, that was a unique situation to support their line-up transition but they have been using IEM's for a couple of years now.
Hello All right with you. Here in Brazil we have a concern for the same small sound systems, we have an obligation passed from technicians to technicians to align the sound system through the use of software such as Smaart and Rita with the help of calibrated microphones. I see that you don't have that much concern in this regard. Can you talk a little bit about how you go about aligning and optimizing your system.
We rely on the PreSonus DSP software that comes with the cabinets. Once we set it up, we don't tend to mess with it at the shows. Our sound is sourced from the stage so there is minimal concern with delay and phasing. If something doesn't sound right, we will use our ears and experiment if any changes with polarity or delaying subs makes it sound better.
Is there a backline company in the area? For gigs that require a much larger audience area, consider renting additional sets of powered speakers and power distribution for it. That area could be covered very nicely with 3 pairs of FOH speakers set 120 degrees apart. This would place a FOH speaker every 60 degrees. The limiting factor is the logistics and budget. Propose the additional coverage with additional cost to the event organizer. Having the extra hands of the backline company to set up the 2 additional pairs of FOH and power allows for a reasonable load in and load out. While the backline is loading out, you could be packing the stage to load out immediately following the backline company.
Perhaps, but to put it into context, these are city sponsored events with limited budgets and this is the area they host these events. I know they have had sound challenges but are likely placing the "blame" on the entertainment because they don't understand that the venue design is he real challenge. Most bands simply are not prepared to provide the coverage they want...I am sure they hear the complaints so they share their concerns with with the acts and leave it to us to hopefully figure it out. In a perfect world, they would be bringing in outside production or we would be provided the budget and weather coverage to do the job right. I am not so sure a bigger production would honestly want to touch this one. It would be difficult to get bigger trucks down to the stage without tearing up a bunch of grass so they would likely need to load from the street and with no weather protection within proximity, I could see it getting very expensive and risky.
@@thesoundcouple Production companies are unlikely to take a 2 hour gig with a large production setup. When taking a job such as this, make it clear and submit a stage plot to show the committie the area with good coverage and if additional areas need covered, that would require additional equipment and expense, then recommend they contact a backline company for any additional recommended equipment. Provide a list of what you bring to the party and a list of not included but recommended additional to solve the shortcomings.
@@isettech Good points and perspective. I suspect there is an opportunity for more business here, but honestly, it's just not for us and we will be satisfied getting through the one time per year we are there. Could be a good opportunity for a younger more eager person to get some business as I believe the concert series run through out the summer.
Have you ever done a video on delay speaker setups?? I don’t have the fancy matrix😂 my cabinets have the delay settings built in, but we never have used it. I know it’s .88 x feet but that’s it…
Hi Joe - we really haven't focused on it because our typical applications generally don't require us to apply delay to speakers. Stage Left Audio has a good overview video on the principles of delays if you are interested in learning more. The math is a nice reference, but using your ears and listening is an acceptable way setting a delay as well. Just to be clear, a matrix is different and does not have to be delayed. It's just another mix of "stuff"....we didn't delay our matrix in this video.
I believe we went for covering the vendors off to the side. The band is booked back for this event this year, but we are booked with another gig....I wonder how they will handle it!
@@maizesoft Yes, the system is completely independent. We more recently assisted a band with a similar system in this video in which we share it's debut: th-cam.com/video/wEqm71bnQLA/w-d-xo.html
It did sound a bit wonky from that perspective....I don't recall that coming out so much through the front though it's hard to believe that it wouldn't have.
I saw that as well... in my head I was say 'NOOOOOOOO'... for a spilt second I thought Bart was gonna say something about it... being a sound guy myself I would of have nicely said "Here's the right way... I'll show ya"... There's the 'over under' aka the professional way cabling/wrapping/coiling of XLRs/TRS cables... I only do basic coiling when needed...
@@thesoundcouple Yep we all need someone to push us a little here and there. By the way Stacy, your cord wrapping skills are great! I noticed them on this last video and Bart should take a moment to talk about the importance of this ability!
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No worries Stacy, I've been doing live sound and dj work for many years. Pulled plenty of cables at the wrong time, we are human and it happens...
Sometimes I’m too hyper focused to get out of there!
Stacy, I am a DJ of 30 years. At a wedding this summer, I did a glowing heartfelt introduction of the father and bride dance… introduced them to the floor and one minute into the song realized I was calling her dad by the wrong name the entire time. My face was so red. Point is, mistakes happen to the best of us. And watching you in these videos, you are amazing at what you do.
Oof! I'm guessing that won't ever happen again anytime soon! Thanks for the compliment.. it's taken years in training to get this far - some days I still feel like I'm in training!
The new guy's feel on the drums is amazing.
Agreed! He has slid into this group seamlessly!
I have a huge level of gig-stress whenever there is a threat of rain. Especially when we are completely exposed and are doing it for a discounted rate. I can see where you might feel the pressure to wrap up quickly and get everything under cover. Tough lesson but we have all been there. All of us! Love your channel. Keep your pow(d)er dry!
Thank you! In all of the years doing this, we have never been completely dumped on (very close once), but the stress can be a lot and we have heard some pretty bad stories!
So love it when bands go direct! Amps are a PITA!
There is a definite advantage to in ears!
Direct is how things are going to the shows we have been attending lately and its nice to have a clean mix in the audience without hearing a guitar punch through the mix!! now with AxeFX and various other hardware amps are a thing of the past or for cork sniffers lol
It's disheartening when a musician can't see the big picture....they have this "great sounding" amp that literally blows up and ruins the FOH mix because they can't control the volume....that great sounding amp just made your band sound like shit....sorry, but that's the absolute truth and drives me crazy! Thankfully, we are fortunate enough to work with clients that get it.
@@thesoundcouple been in too many bands that can't kick their amp habit! And yes, the live mix sounded like donkey doo, and always because the guitar amp overpowered the band!
Stacy is a working machine. Even machines aren't perfect. She does a great job. ❤️
Thanks! It’s a great reminder that we’re still humans every now and again!
Another very instructive time with the Sound Couple. Thanks for continuing to share your gigs with us.
I especially appreciated your explanation of the use of a matrix to feed the center-fill and side-fill speakers.
Thanks Dean! I am glad the explanation made sense. I hope that some our simplified approach to address unique situations is helping people out. Not everything requires complexity to get the job done well!
This became my Netflix I have watch most of this contenr it's really helpful and fun to watch
Ha ha! Thanks for binging! Glad we can keep you entertained!
Another great video and fab insight into the use of the side fills. The band is really tight and the new drummer was spot on. Stacey, don’t beat yourself up, we all make mistakes, you held your hand up, good on you. We once finished a set and our bass player was keen to pack up and started unplugging power and unplugged the DJ who still had an hour set to play 😂. We ribbed him mercilessly for a long time after that 😂
So good to know it’s not just me! Thanks for sharing!
This is a great venue. Very weird compared to standard venues. I didn't use any fills last year, but I may consider it if I find myself.there again. Great show!
Hi Bill - It appears you are familiar with this place! We found they "sort of expected" that we would cover these areas, specifically up the side to the food trucks.
Getting me ready to go for the weekend guys! 2 days, starting tomorrow!
Don't sweat it Stacy. We've all done it. I was working as stage manager supporting a 9 piece horn band. It was an outdoor gig at my local amphitheatre for a Brew Festival. Singer's wireless was dropping out. I waved to FOH multiple times, but they were busy not watching the stage. There were 5 people in the FOH tent. So I said screw it. I unplugged the wireless. "POP". Then I plugged in a wired SM58. "POP". That got FOH's attention.
Later FOH engineer started on me about unplugging the cables during the show. I told him that you had 5 people in the tent and no one was paying attention. He said I should have ran to FOH. I said you need to watch the stage. I'm 6'4" 350 pounds. I'm hard to miss. Since then, no more distractions allowed in the FOH tent.
Love the story and the outcome! Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to make the gig successful! (And give "subtle" reminders to even the seasoned pros!)
I'm watching this from Fiji and I absolutely love what you guys do. Awesome work. Keep it coming.
Thanks for watching - it's always fun to hear where people are watching from, and what parts are relatable or a new learning experience. Still have many more to come!
Interesting gig. Matrix mixes certainly make life a bit easier. Only critical factor in those spaces is the weather as you well know. Enjoying your videos 🖖
Matrix functionality in the digital world and specifically with the PreSonus Series 3 takes it to a new level. PreSonus did this well in that's it's easy to do and very flexible. I think we are back next year so we have another chance to wrestle with the weather!
Nice video with the sound coverage for the event, you 2 always do a good job explaining your step by step process so thanks for that however it was a bit of an awkward ending. Keep the love!
Thanks John - What you see is what you get...we don't typically do multiple takes or script things out. In this case, we fumbled a couple of takes so we were getting ancy to get out. If it was my attitude towards the mishap, well that may be valid, but pushing ourselves to be better and to think is in my DNA. Trust me, the dynamic can both ways and she knows how to put me in my place as well!
Awesome work guys! Love the hard work you guys do and giving me different ideas on how to do things!!!
Thank you so much Cameron! That was one of our goals in starting this channel!
Watching you guys for awhile now. Seeing your setup and following your videos helped me decide to get the CDL12P’s.
Are those the Presonus bags you have CDL12ps in? Searching for bags for mine but unsuccessful so far
We have the CDL12’s. Not sure if they are the exact same size or not- I’m sure a simple call to presonus may answer that! They can be a pain to put on- but we do have a video that covers that!
Good to know. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@@OscarBA2011 We would recommend looking at other options as well, such as Undercover covers. Their stuff is high quality but you would need to contact them to see what their design would be. From our experience, we are not happy with the PreSonus bags, but surprisingly they are holding up better than we would have thought because they are not high quality.
Hey Stacy thanks for what you do...we all mess up...many times I've started song off in the wrong key...embarrassing at the time but I laugh about it now.
Thanks! You certainly learn from it and (hopefully) won’t do that in the future!
Sounds great. When you use IEM do you setup room microphones for them?
Hi Dave - no, the band doesn't use one. I have seen some who do and some don't. These guys are ok without one.
Good GiG, and Stacy don't be to hard for yourselves. Pro's makes mistakes to that's the proof of being human 🙂 i made them myself to and I'm not a pro but the band / audience thinks you are a pro of you run it several times faultless. I would love to join you two at some gigs just to learn from the best 🙂🔊
Thanks Rene! We understand that mistakes will happen from time to time....learning from them is most important!
You are awesome guys, love your videos.
i have one question.
You never realy talked about drum microphones.
Which microphones do you use on drums?
And do u use overheads on drums?
Our common drum package includes Sennheiser 604's for toms and snare. Shure Beta 52 for kick and Oktava condenser for HH and Overheads. In this video, the band provides their own mics which are Audix mics - D6 on the kick...not sure what the other ones are.
@@thesoundcouple Thank you for response!
Means a lot. 😃
Great job , friends...
Always appreciate you tagging along with us Hezekiah!
Why I have a 2 in 4 stereo copy rack unit now! I can copy my mains to 3 other pairs of Auxiliary Mains! Downside, is its analog. If I could find a digitally controlled one, that would be awesome!
Rhino the band really becoming the regular for the sound couple. from "We never have experience with them" to "they using in ear monitor this time"
For clarification, we have worked with them for quite a few years now, more over the past few. If you are referencing the prior video, that was a unique situation to support their line-up transition but they have been using IEM's for a couple of years now.
are those subs set-up for cardoiod?
I can't recall if it can be configured in the software DSP, but we don't run our subs cardioid physically as well.
I am at 4:00 and wonder, how many speakers you may use. I would guess 8, 4 times 2 because the angle.
This is a tricky place to set up...and we always need to consider the budget as these types of events don't pay as well.
Drummer is solid but that elbow wrapping cables at 23:00 is cringe. 😉
Somehow I think we missed this when we were tearing down - funny what you catch when you record things!
Drove me nuts too!
lLooks like a mini colosseum lol. nice job y'all.
Thanks! Kind of has that feel!
Hello
All right with you.
Here in Brazil we have a concern for the same small sound systems, we have an obligation passed from technicians to technicians to align the sound system through the use of software such as Smaart and Rita with the help of calibrated microphones.
I see that you don't have that much concern in this regard. Can you talk a little bit about how you go about aligning and optimizing your system.
We rely on the PreSonus DSP software that comes with the cabinets. Once we set it up, we don't tend to mess with it at the shows. Our sound is sourced from the stage so there is minimal concern with delay and phasing. If something doesn't sound right, we will use our ears and experiment if any changes with polarity or delaying subs makes it sound better.
very nice venue
Aesthically wise it's very lovely - logistically? obviously a Sound guy didn't have much input!
Is there a backline company in the area? For gigs that require a much larger audience area, consider renting additional sets of powered speakers and power distribution for it. That area could be covered very nicely with 3 pairs of FOH speakers set 120 degrees apart. This would place a FOH speaker every 60 degrees. The limiting factor is the logistics and budget. Propose the additional coverage with additional cost to the event organizer. Having the extra hands of the backline company to set up the 2 additional pairs of FOH and power allows for a reasonable load in and load out. While the backline is loading out, you could be packing the stage to load out immediately following the backline company.
Perhaps, but to put it into context, these are city sponsored events with limited budgets and this is the area they host these events. I know they have had sound challenges but are likely placing the "blame" on the entertainment because they don't understand that the venue design is he real challenge. Most bands simply are not prepared to provide the coverage they want...I am sure they hear the complaints so they share their concerns with with the acts and leave it to us to hopefully figure it out. In a perfect world, they would be bringing in outside production or we would be provided the budget and weather coverage to do the job right. I am not so sure a bigger production would honestly want to touch this one. It would be difficult to get bigger trucks down to the stage without tearing up a bunch of grass so they would likely need to load from the street and with no weather protection within proximity, I could see it getting very expensive and risky.
@@thesoundcouple Production companies are unlikely to take a 2 hour gig with a large production setup. When taking a job such as this, make it clear and submit a stage plot to show the committie the area with good coverage and if additional areas need covered, that would require additional equipment and expense, then recommend they contact a backline company for any additional recommended equipment. Provide a list of what you bring to the party and a list of not included but recommended additional to solve the shortcomings.
@@isettech Good points and perspective. I suspect there is an opportunity for more business here, but honestly, it's just not for us and we will be satisfied getting through the one time per year we are there. Could be a good opportunity for a younger more eager person to get some business as I believe the concert series run through out the summer.
What the heck, Kermit? LOL
That was a last second throw in as Stacy said I sounded like Kermit in this segment, but by random chance it fit with the song!
Have you ever done a video on delay speaker setups?? I don’t have the fancy matrix😂 my cabinets have the delay settings built in, but we never have used it. I know it’s .88 x feet but that’s it…
Hi Joe - we really haven't focused on it because our typical applications generally don't require us to apply delay to speakers. Stage Left Audio has a good overview video on the principles of delays if you are interested in learning more. The math is a nice reference, but using your ears and listening is an acceptable way setting a delay as well. Just to be clear, a matrix is different and does not have to be delayed. It's just another mix of "stuff"....we didn't delay our matrix in this video.
@@thesoundcouple I have seen his videos on it!👍 thanks for the reply! Always like seeing your videos.
Okay, the people in the back get some monitor speakers.
I believe we went for covering the vendors off to the side. The band is booked back for this event this year, but we are booked with another gig....I wonder how they will handle it!
the band brings their own IEM rig?
Lots of bands are doing this in the region. 75% of those I work with.
Yes, the band carries their own IEM rig. They supply mics and run their own lines.
@@thesoundcouple Do they also use their own mixer for IEM or yours?
@@maizesoft Yes, the system is completely independent. We more recently assisted a band with a similar system in this video in which we share it's debut: th-cam.com/video/wEqm71bnQLA/w-d-xo.html
Wow basketball floor tom tone
It did sound a bit wonky from that perspective....I don't recall that coming out so much through the front though it's hard to believe that it wouldn't have.
Haha bart still wanted to play music and stacy said no, I want to go home and unplugged everything
🤣😂 that’s a great way of thinking about the end of nights….
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Thank you for watching (and for the first comment)!
oof, somebody needs to learn the new drummer how to wrap a cable 😬
I saw that as well... in my head I was say 'NOOOOOOOO'... for a spilt second I thought Bart was gonna say something about it... being a sound guy myself I would of have nicely said "Here's the right way... I'll show ya"...
There's the 'over under' aka the professional way cabling/wrapping/coiling of XLRs/TRS cables... I only do basic coiling when needed...
I didn't notice this until we were making the video. Was it unkind for us to leave it in? We just couldn't help ourselves!
Slap the drummer! I literally uncoil the cable and recoil myself if someone does that!
@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup He is too nice of a guy to do that!
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Thanks for watching!
Can't be too hard on Stacy. We are all just inches and seconds away from being humbled at every gig.
In all honesty, I probably wouldn’t have all of the skills and drive without a little tough love from Bart every now and again!
@@thesoundcouple Yep we all need someone to push us a little here and there. By the way Stacy, your cord wrapping skills are great! I noticed them on this last video and Bart should take a moment to talk about the importance of this ability!
Thanks! That is something we can easily add into our future ones!
Love this !!!
Thanks for watching John!