They missed my favourite moment of the intro: Xpac walking alongside the garbage truck, WALKING ALONGSIDE. He puts his arms in the air and says: 'Wooo! lookatme!' Summation of Sean Waltman's fucking character in one clip.
+james Fogarty nah he's right, waltman's characters have always been "look I'm the short prick who thinks he's cool for palling around with the big dogs."
This review is spot on. I actually saw this PPV at a friends house whose dad had a descrambler cable box and we all still felt ripped off after seeing it.
The ONLY upside outside of the ladder match was that my 2 best friends who were about 4-5 years older than me went to it. Well they also snuck into the hotel bar ALL the wrestlers minus Sting, even guys who weren't on the card, they were all there and my buddies got about 40 autographs.
Bryan mentioned how cocky Bischoff was then commented how only four years later WCW was dead. This is true. But the rot set in earlier than that. About a year after this Raw got ahead in the ratings and never looked back. The WWF ran a marathon. WCW thought it was a sprint
+Derrin Richens It seems to me that after the disaster of Starrcade 97 they didn't know what to do. Goldberg was their last chance afterwards but we all know how it ended
Yeah I agree. I've been watching Raw from late 97 through 98. With hindsight it's even more apparent WcW was doomed.. The relied on the NWO which became state, it didn't help adding half the roster
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate It was a WCW storyline. And no one cares about your shitty wrestling channel. And omg it’s all done with a WWE video game. Grats on being ultrafail
Man, I remember my dad letting me get this on PPV. It was so bad that I apologized to him for having him pay for this and I offered to reimburse him for it. Fucking awful.
He was. I was more upset about wasting his money than he was about it. I never asked him for much so he didn't have a problem with my wrestling fandom.
The nWo were red hot when they first started as they helped made wrestling fun to watch again. But as time progressed, the nWo eventually became a big factor of the death of WCW as Hogan and Bischoff kept sticking their noses in places where it didn't belong.
It just amazes me that anyone wrote this show out and thought "yes, this is worth putting on PPV". Everyone came out looking like morons and uncool, WCW & nWo alike.
That line brings back fond memories of learning the lingo and shooting the shit on Usenet's RSPW. "Brother, lemme tell you, when I saw the magnificioy Huckster bodyslam that big, stinky, warty Andor the Gaint through the ring and straight into Earth's core in front of God and 17 billion and one Huckstermaniacs at the Deetroyt Spectradome in 1783, I tell ya, it was tremend."
The problem with the VR review is that Bryan did it with Dave Meltzer right after the PPV on Observer Radio and that review is nothing special really. That's why Bryan and Vinny didn't do a full review on the following B&V Show. The only thing they did, was Vinny giving some thoughts on that horrible PPV ;) Of course, if you guys want to listen to that, I can upload it because Vinny's notes are actually quite funny.
You forgot to say that there was not even a commentator boot! Bischoff and Dibiase were just casually sitting near the huge stairs of the set of the entry way. This was the tone of a very "laid back" show.
I remember thinking "How nWo guys supposed to lose? And if they're not, what's the point of all this? And expecially why would WCW send anyone if their point was to boycott the show..."
Never seen this PPV. I think it was a good idea having an NWO PPV because it sold further them as a separate entity as WCW. And I guess it shows their growing power and ego, but sounds like they pulled it off really bad. I disagree with them on a couple points. Firstly why are they knocking Bischoff for being cocky? He's a heel! He's supposed to be cocky! And the other thing I like the detail of the NWO ring annoncer burying the WCW guys. That makes perfect sense to me on an NWO event.
+wwfwrestlingfan4ever again the point must be reiterated THAT IS THE POINT!!! That's what the show was about now no ones is saying it was a good idea or that it worked well but that's what the show was lolz
WCW PPVs were always garbage, but the reality is that WCW was crushing WWF for all of 1997. Thunder was not a bad show at first, but it turned into a jobber fest when they didn't really have the roster for a 3 hour show and a 2 hour show.
+Alphonzo316 I agree that overall the wrestling in WWF was better at this point, but I don't agree that WCW sucked wrestling wise. The Cruserweight division was very strong with some great wrestling, the mid-card guys like Melanko and Benoit had some great matches. I think this was one of the best periods in wrestling history. I think both companies were going strong creative wise and in ring.
I would like the Victory Road 2011 review please. I would to see how much Bryan and company bash that show. All I have heard was Bryan calling the main event -*****; although I would love to know what Bryan gave Jake Roberts Vs.Jim Neidhart on Heroes of Wrestling main event because Jeff Hardy Vs. Sting cannot possibility be worst than that one.
Not sure what Bryan gave Roberts vs. Neidhart, but he gave The Bushwhackers vs. Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff from the same Heroes of Wrestling show "minus more stars than there are in the universe, and the universe is infinite". Dave Meltzer gave the "slightly better" rating of absolute zero.
Why would the Guerreo VS. Syxx match from a WCW/NWO PPV be on "The Rise and Fall of ECW" DVD? Also for them to say that watching Eddie's dare devil style in this match points to him dying is just dumb. I really don't see any connection, and it was low to say that.
No bored. he was referring to the rise and fall of wcw dvd but he isn't saying Eddie's dare devil style is what lead to his death.vinny was sayin look at Eddie here and he is a normal shaped athletic man but forward a few years and he is jacked with the giant neck muscles and Vinny is suggesting that Eddie and Benoit for that matter took steroids and growth hormones to look like wrestlers Vince and WWE expect wrestlers to look like and that strain on his body shortened Eddie's life .not his wrestling styles
Great concept but Bischoff basically phoned it in, it felt like the WCW guys didn't give a shit what was happening, like they were on vacation. There was even a contest to find a nWo girl and it was the ugliest women taking part of it. Like EB made a point to sink the show. But by doing that missed his chance to have a genuine nWo show after Nitro. This showed signs of the beginning of the end. Worst PPV show of all time. They were G I L *N* F. !!!
This PPV just proved how arrogant and power hungry the NWO AND Eric Bischoff were, both in kayfabe AND in real life. WCW never knew how to long term book storylines. WWE, at the time, knew what to do and ran with it. WCW cared more about the now then the future.
Well Hogan/Nash/Hall/Bishoff and their cronies quite literally ran the place backstage like a high school clique of bully cliches... The shit they pulled on other wrestlers live and on camera and on a regular basis... it's amazing there weren't more murder attempts than the Psycho Sid/Arn Anderosn thing.... And it's amazing the sideshow lasted so long.
I walk into places and my perennial theme music everywhere is the nwo mid card theme yes I am fat play video games live in my moms basement and work at 7/11 but I'm stil twoooooooo 222222222 SWEAAaaaaaaaAATT!!!
I just watched this the other night. To anyone who immediately thinks all wrestling was great in the late 1990's watch this show and tell me that. Even for WCW...this was fucking garbage. The worst TNA episode ever would still be better than this. Who was supposed to like this show? Absolutely nobody. You would have to be nuts to like this. Looking back on them in 2017...the nWo really was lame. They came off as a bunch of geeks indeed...lol.
They missed my favourite moment of the intro: Xpac walking alongside the garbage truck, WALKING ALONGSIDE. He puts his arms in the air and says: 'Wooo! lookatme!' Summation of Sean Waltman's fucking character in one clip.
Aww be nice to poor Sean, he's had a rough life but he's a fucking nice guy
+james Fogarty nah he's right, waltman's characters have always been "look I'm the short prick who thinks he's cool for palling around with the big dogs."
"Whatever it takes"
@@matthewpierce2255 He's not actually short. He's like six foot, iirc.
This review is spot on. I actually saw this PPV at a friends house whose dad had a descrambler cable box and we all still felt ripped off after seeing it.
The ladder match was quite good though.
Same here! Descramblers in the 90s were great
the word Bryan was looking for to describe Bischoff on commentary is "hubris"
I'm actually mad you guys reminded me of this now! I'd completely forgotten how pissed off I was when I watched this back in '97
40:22 Bryan's line and Vinny's laugh cracks me up.
The ONLY upside outside of the ladder match was that my 2 best friends who were about 4-5 years older than me went to it. Well they also snuck into the hotel bar ALL the wrestlers minus Sting, even guys who weren't on the card, they were all there and my buddies got about 40 autographs.
@John Banks So does Mankind taking two bumps off Hell in a Cell, but it actually happened.
nWo hanging off garbage trucks...how appropriate.
Lol
fuck off
@@jaroncreed you're angry at the comment even though NWO hasn't been relevant since 1997! That's 21 years!
@@southbeachtalent Salt tends to preserve things. lmao
"That lady has the biggest Adam's apple I've ever seen." --Miss NWO
6:55 to 7:45 that's Iowa in a nutshell and I know because I live there :(
Bryan mentioned how cocky Bischoff was then commented how only four years later WCW was dead. This is true. But the rot set in earlier than that. About a year after this Raw got ahead in the ratings and never looked back. The WWF ran a marathon. WCW thought it was a sprint
+Derrin Richens It seems to me that after the disaster of Starrcade 97 they
didn't know what to do. Goldberg was their last chance afterwards but we all know how it ended
Yeah I agree. I've been watching Raw from late 97 through 98. With hindsight it's even more apparent WcW was doomed.. The relied on the NWO which became state, it didn't help adding half the roster
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate are you high? Drunk Scott Hall was classy? Oklahoma was classy? No.
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate
It was a WCW storyline. And no one cares about your shitty wrestling channel.
And omg it’s all done with a WWE video game. Grats on being ultrafail
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate wtf even did you just say? Was that even english?
Failure
Man, I remember my dad letting me get this on PPV. It was so bad that I apologized to him for having him pay for this and I offered to reimburse him for it. Fucking awful.
+Integra0811 Was he a good sport about it?
He was. I was more upset about wasting his money than he was about it. I never asked him for much so he didn't have a problem with my wrestling fandom.
The nWo were red hot when they first started as they helped made wrestling fun to watch again. But as time progressed, the nWo eventually became a big factor of the death of WCW as Hogan and Bischoff kept sticking their noses in places where it didn't belong.
It just amazes me that anyone wrote this show out and thought "yes, this is worth putting on PPV".
Everyone came out looking like morons and uncool, WCW & nWo alike.
I think they fucked it all up on purpose. I mean ugly nWo girls, bad matches, etc...
EnforcerX71 when even the NWO themed episode of Monday Nitro bombed, they probably shouldn't have made a NWO PPV
That NWO Monday Nitro episode was well after Souled Out. If I remember correctly, Souled Out actually did a good buyrate and made money.
Michael Pagnotta That's what i meant. Thanks for catching that. I mean NWO Nitro bombed and it never happened again
The nWo midcarder theme at the start really set the pace
+Heavy Metal Collector yes, jaunty music for a jaunty show
Thanks! Got any suggestions which review I should upload next ?
You still uploading bruh!??😂💀
2:21-2:25.; What did Vinny say?...
lol😂😂
The ending of this had me in tears.
+TheReivenlocke Of laughter?
"And/or The Gaint!"
That line brings back fond memories of learning the lingo and shooting the shit on Usenet's RSPW. "Brother, lemme tell you, when I saw the magnificioy Huckster bodyslam that big, stinky, warty Andor the Gaint through the ring and straight into Earth's core in front of God and 17 billion and one Huckstermaniacs at the Deetroyt Spectradome in 1783, I tell ya, it was tremend."
The problem with the VR review is that Bryan did it with Dave Meltzer right after the PPV on Observer Radio and that review is nothing special really. That's why Bryan and Vinny didn't do a full review on the following B&V Show. The only thing they did, was Vinny giving some thoughts on that horrible PPV ;)
Of course, if you guys want to listen to that, I can upload it because Vinny's notes are actually quite funny.
bigbaddenn91
do it
33:15... surely enough, the decision got reversed two nights later on Nitro.
You forgot to say that there was not even a commentator boot! Bischoff and Dibiase were just casually sitting near the huge stairs of the set of the entry way. This was the tone of a very "laid back" show.
I ordered it on PPV and it sucked. The under card was terrible and the main event was alright but it could of been better.
Wow. X-Pac was actually there this time. Go figure.
People whose asses his career relied upon kissing were there so he had no choice.
I was there live
Believe or not, The Giant was good from his debut until Sept 1996 when he joined the nWo.
+TheDreReichDude uh, no? He meant The Giant/Big Show. And seriously, he was really great given how little experience he had in wrestling.
This review is Awesome 😂😂🙌💀
I remember thinking "How nWo guys supposed to lose? And if they're not, what's the point of all this? And expecially why would WCW send anyone if their point was to boycott the show..."
Never seen this PPV. I think it was a good idea having an NWO PPV because it sold further them as a separate entity as WCW. And I guess it shows their growing power and ego, but sounds like they pulled it off really bad.
I disagree with them on a couple points. Firstly why are they knocking Bischoff for being cocky? He's a heel! He's supposed to be cocky! And the other thing I like the detail of the NWO ring annoncer burying the WCW guys. That makes perfect sense to me on an NWO event.
But it makes the dudes look like geeks with no music and being buried by the fucking announcer
+wwfwrestlingfan4ever again the point must be reiterated THAT IS THE POINT!!! That's what the show was about now no ones is saying it was a good idea or that it worked well but that's what the show was lolz
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate Even Bishoff, Hall, Nash, and Hogan thought it was bad in hindsight.
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate oh wow you’re also an idiot. And i’m reporting all these comments for spamming.
Cause now these fat internet fans want to cheer their heels
WCW PPVs were always garbage, but the reality is that WCW was crushing WWF for all of 1997.
Thunder was not a bad show at first, but it turned into a jobber fest when they didn't really have the roster for a 3 hour show and a 2 hour show.
Some of The Starrcades were really good.
>A thin roster in a 3 hour show
Mistakes of the past repeating, sheesh.
They were crushing them in ratings, but not match or PPV quality.
+Alphonzo316 they were tuning in just cause the NWO name was in but after a point they stopped
+Alphonzo316 I agree that overall the wrestling in WWF was better at this point, but I don't agree that WCW sucked wrestling wise. The Cruserweight division was very strong with some great wrestling, the mid-card guys like Melanko and Benoit had some great matches. I think this was one of the best periods in wrestling history. I think both companies were going strong creative wise and in ring.
I would like the Victory Road 2011 review please. I would to see how much Bryan and company bash that show. All I have heard was Bryan calling the main event -*****; although I would love to know what Bryan gave Jake Roberts Vs.Jim Neidhart on Heroes of Wrestling main event because Jeff Hardy Vs. Sting cannot possibility be worst than that one.
Not sure what Bryan gave Roberts vs. Neidhart, but he gave The Bushwhackers vs. Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff from the same Heroes of Wrestling show "minus more stars than there are in the universe, and the universe is infinite". Dave Meltzer gave the "slightly better" rating of absolute zero.
my favorite part of the theme song was when it said New World Order
Why would the Guerreo VS. Syxx match from a WCW/NWO PPV be on "The Rise and Fall of ECW" DVD?
Also for them to say that watching Eddie's dare devil style in this match points to him dying is just dumb. I really don't see any connection, and it was low to say that.
+TheDreReichDude Think he must have meant ECW. That did cross my mind.
+Bored Now not what they ment..
+Phantom TV™ Oh sorry I'm getting the wrong way now! I meant WCW! haha...
+Bored Now he's referring to his book "death of wcw" not the dvd "rise and fall of ecw."
No bored. he was referring to the rise and fall of wcw dvd but he isn't saying Eddie's dare devil style is what lead to his death.vinny was sayin look at Eddie here and he is a normal shaped athletic man but forward a few years and he is jacked with the giant neck muscles and Vinny is suggesting that Eddie and Benoit for that matter took steroids and growth hormones to look like wrestlers Vince and WWE expect wrestlers to look like and that strain on his body shortened Eddie's life .not his wrestling styles
Hilarious review!!
I'm on board with them for 99.99% of this review, buy how dare they disparage the NWO B Theme.
Great concept but Bischoff basically phoned it in, it felt like the WCW guys didn't give a shit what was happening, like they were on vacation. There was even a contest to find a nWo girl and it was the ugliest women taking part of it. Like EB made a point to sink the show. But by doing that missed his chance to have a genuine nWo show after Nitro. This showed signs of the beginning of the end. Worst PPV show of all time. They were G I L *N* F. !!!
TNA Victory Road 2009
This PPV just proved how arrogant and power hungry the NWO AND Eric Bischoff were, both in kayfabe AND in real life. WCW never knew how to long term book storylines. WWE, at the time, knew what to do and ran with it. WCW cared more about the now then the future.
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate
Between WCW and WWE one was bought by the other...hmmm
Well Hogan/Nash/Hall/Bishoff and their cronies quite literally ran the place backstage like a high school clique of bully cliches...
The shit they pulled on other wrestlers live and on camera and on a regular basis... it's amazing there weren't more murder attempts than the Psycho Sid/Arn Anderosn thing.... And it's amazing the sideshow lasted so long.
seen this show best match Eddie Guerrero vs syxx
Jared Digirolamo Also known as "almost the only 2 guys on the show who could work"
Cedar Rapids isn't that bad, good grief.
i farted for like god i dont know 40 minutes when i watched this ppv
Lol
To think they didnt know how to autocorrect something lol. Now we all pros. Times have change.
Everybody remember this Shitty song.........I'm ded
What if Bullet Club or some other large stable tried this same shit now?
In Search of Sulu Well, if Bullet Club does go stale, at least The Elite will remain.
David Harding Ask the Wolfpack how that works
Brandi as Miss BC. Oh yeah
2010 hardcore justice???
and it was competing against the Royal Rumble.
with Stone Cold Steve Austin winning the Rumble
@@jamesklatt hahahahahahahahahah wait.. you're serious?
25:56 is what I wish my girl would say everyday I come home from work.
might risk it and watch it on network.. not sure i want too but hey ho
did you watch December to dismember from WWECW as well?
The Only Connor Shaw fan I actually own that awful PPV on DVD.
tally ho
I felt like getting angry so I clicked this video cause I also didn't want to get angry alone....
Anything WCW
I was a dumb nWo mark, so I thought this show was awesome. 😂
good review
good comment
I walk into places and my perennial theme music everywhere is the nwo mid card theme yes I am fat play video games live in my moms basement and work at 7/11 but I'm stil twoooooooo 222222222 SWEAAaaaaaaaAATT!!!
Too sweaty?
it may have be a drinking game.
I just watched this the other night. To anyone who immediately thinks all wrestling was great in the late 1990's watch this show and tell me that. Even for WCW...this was fucking garbage. The worst TNA episode ever would still be better than this. Who was supposed to like this show? Absolutely nobody. You would have to be nuts to like this. Looking back on them in 2017...the nWo really was lame. They came off as a bunch of geeks indeed...lol.
This was twenty asses
The nWo midcarder theme at the start really set the pace
About as exciting as elevator music.
jaunty.
V/CV/ World Championship Wrestling Syndicate
Wow you spam the same comment twice two weeks later. Grats.
The nWo midcarder theme at the start really set the pace