Indigenous American, African and Melungeon relations in North Carolina and Virginia
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- Dr. Arwin Smallwood Speaks about the connections and relations between Indigenous Americans, Africans and Melungeons in North Carolina and Virginia
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My ancestors were melungeons. I thought this was an excellent presentation by Dr. Smallwood. He did a thorough job explaining all the admixture in early America.
Do your genealogy reflect the admixture? I am asking because a lot of people are doing their genealogy, and we are not finding the documentation of African ancestry. I don't like doing the word-of-mouth thing. I would really like to see it in writing.
This is crazy we are being lied too why
#Smallwood is an Indian name like #Jackson So they died from disease not rape and enslavement 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So this is the only proof of a slave ship 😂😂😂😂😂😂 by a swarthy European he is lying no Africans were brought here there were Pryamids here he is lying
No such thing as a lesser island he is lying
Genealogy doesn't lie but DNA test kits do as well as other people
Geneology doesn't lie 😂 bruh how many names did Billy the Kid have? 🤣 Identity theft of the dead was massive back in the day. DNA tests are way more accurate 😅 you just know they'll prove something you don't want proven.
Yea them DNA kits are questionables
This make so much sense. My family originated from the Carolinas and Virginia and we have multi racial heritage. My maternal great grandparents were labled mixed on the census before 1930 and they both have Native American ancestry. After 1930 their race was changed to just negro, then black.
I ran across this video and was tickled that Professor Smallwood is at A&T. I am an A&T graduate and melungeon are on my father's side.
Great video , the point made about the natives being susceptible to European diseases raises a lot of questions . Dr. Smallwood assertion that the natives retreated from English invaders out of fear of contracting diseases subtly suggest the improbability of natives having the same genetic makeup of Africans , that is, in terms of their immune system.
Would it be fair to suggest that intermixing with Africans strengthen the immune system of native Americans to where their immune system would be resistance to European diseases ?
A study should be under taken to determine which native tribes were immune to European diseases .
It strengthened it. I read that somewhere but I didn't record the source.
@@FireWalkerBigCat Thanks for replying to my comments. And I want to add , that Dr. Smallwood is the only person that I have ever heard mention the "immune system" when speaking about the native American slave experience .
Recently I read a science article that addressed the difference between the immune system of native American slaves and African slaves. The study found that the immune system of African slaves were stronger than the immune system of native American slaves, scholars pointed to the strength of Africans immune system as the reason why Africans slaves did not die in masses from contagious European diseases similar to native Americans.
The idea of Indians being Africans is very erroneous when given critical analysis. If native Americans were genetically similar to Africans they would not have died from contagious European diseases.
Shoutout to dr. arwin smallwood. Tuscarora by blood
Melungeon - both my mother and fathers family reside in hancock Co TN, related to Mahala Mullins & Vardy Collins
Vardy Collins is my 6th great grandfather
@melodiepatton2651 kathy mullins bunch ancestry tree, see where we relate 👋
Explanations that make sense…. Thank you!
@Michael Eure ok l see it here at the end. Thank you❤
I think the black moors played a big part in all of it they had trade with this continent someone had to be the interpreter maybe a moor that fought against his moorish brothers as they were driven out of southern Europe
Awesome presentation tonight i am from goldsboro north Carolina and now i just finding out what indian i am from.
Very interesting and informative please share more ❤my family is from Virginia
Thanks 🙏
This is so interesting
wow .. good history
I accept that. You absolutely learn by asking questions.Thanks for your comments.
I don't know what you mean
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There is a treaty of peace and friendship in 1787- 1836 and in that treaty they could not enslave a Moor, ancient Berbers and their descendants, because they were under the Sultan's jurisdiction and protection. I am quiet sure they knew nothing or anything about the treaty, the Barbary treaties!
Almost all of my family on my Mother's side came from Hawkins Co, TN. We have oral histories of Indian ancestory, but I can't verify it. Surnames "White" "Scobee" "Mills" "Rouse". My direct lines almost all migrated to a specific area in the hills of Missouri around the 1880's. I suspect Melungeon heritage.I did find a pic of my great grandma who appears black or mixed, but records indicate she didnt read or write and has no parents listed on any documents - which is weird for such a recent relative. Her maiden name states "Greer"
Thank you for uploading this video. I am so interested in your knowledge. Can you please put a link here for part 1.
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To call someone black back in the days were fighting words
This so crazy my ancestor is William Williams he was Billy Williams the Catawba Indian
Thanks for your comment
Is he the one who married a Gibson woman? " Wild Cat" ?
The five civilized tribes are the Bey, Dey, Al, El, and Ali! Which were changed by the colonizers!
I am Melougeon. Gibson family. I ham having a hard time tracing my ancestors because of persecution.
I’m Melungeon as well through Gibsons and Collins, I also have Mulatto through Moores
You need to look up Vardiman "Vardy" Collins and his brother-in-law Buck
Gibson of Newman's Ridge, TN. These two men were known as the
Head and Source of the Melungeons in Tennessee.
The family name of Moore is a strong Melungeon name.
Hey couz!! I have Gibson and Mullins and my 1st cousin is a Collins.
@@rebeccamd7903 my last name is not Gibson. My great grandmother maiden name was Gibson.
Most of the so called Africans you speak of were exiles from Spain & Portugal who mixed with African tribes prior to 1492. Landinos.
Wow!! I have a lot of ancestors from Bertie County, Robeson County and surrounding areas. They are my major BRICK WALLS! My other "dead ends" are in South Carolina; Marion, Latta, Dillon, Pee Dee area, Cheraw, Chesterfield and some surrounding areas. Those are my main places though. I show West African ( Senegambian/Guinea/Cabo Verde) and North African/Western Asian; Egypt!! ( Arab, Levant too). I have cousins from these areas that show; Portuguese, Indigenous American, North African ( various parts along with Egyptian and Coptic Egyptian), West African ( varies) but places include Angolan/Congolese, Mali etc.. along with West/East Asian. That's just some of my white cousins lol. I have 3rd and 4th "white" cousins that are at the very least anywhere from 1 to 14% to "black" cousins that show up to 60% African. PLEASE, DON'T stop doing videos like this.. people who do the Geni pages/wiki tree are falsifying and denying who these people really are. I want and appreciate the truth!! They are my ancestors too and I want them acknowledged 💛 thank you. I can't find my "links" that I so desperately crave to find..I research every single day and try to dig for the truth. Unlike the people lying and making up stories.. I am NOT ashamed of my ancestors. I would not be here if it weren't for any single one of them!!
All my traceable ancestors can be found residing in the swamps Virginia, NC, SC. They are found next to people with Common Melungeon surnames.. yet I'm still lost
I forgot to add that.
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@@FireWalkerBigCat hopefully I will piece it together.. one day. Until then, your videos and similar ones have been very helpful. I am just gonna have to try and find original deeds or documents of any kind ( if possible). So far all I come across is "destroyed or illegible records" or married "first and last name unknown".. "they snuck on a ship to the new world" .. so many walls and excuses. It is a shame... again, thank you!!
Email me @ capefearindian@gmail.com
We can share contacts from there. Maybe I can point you in the right direction.
Yea family my father is adopted from south Hampton born and my mother side is all through vance franklin warren county Sandy creek Henderson nc all the way bacc to the 1820 census my dna came back 92% west African 1% Peru 1% Philippino 6% European another test said i was 72% carrib let's link family keep researching yourself
One of the most interesting things to me was in Europe they had famine and growing food was difficult and that left Europe in trouble. How ! How did the Natives in America know how to go down to the river catch fresh fish, then take the fish to the growing area and crack open the ground and embed the fish and there they were very consistent on a healthy crop year in year out. I as a simple God fearing man I find that totally amazing. I went to a Pow-WoW in Nottaway County in VA and I asked the Chief that very same question and his reply was DEVINE WISDOM 🤔
I couldn't answer any better than that. Great answer to a good question 💯
First many Europeans did not live by rivers. Got news for you, read truth not color.Real indigenous people starved, when the soil is no good to plant . Game scares .. unreal , no human is so super Human can survive in unlivable conditions .They froze to death Got news for you, Europeans we're living in houses , castles as tribes lived in tents. Europeans when in good times, had domestic animals. Cities, farms unreal. Note as well truth be told. To many tribes were nomads who attacked other tribes for their food woman slaves. No people's were angels. Read how Apache killed other weaker tribes for their survival. As some Europeans, as barbaric to fellow man. Weather patterns brought on drought anyone could die.
@@robertpundsack1363 Mr. pundsack, sounds like you're not from my State, county, region or area so maybe you shouldn't be commenting on something you don't know. It sounds like you know Apache but we're not Apache. We weren't nomads and we didn't live in tents. Please take your no it all comments somewhere else because I'm not interested in how you're merging Eastern Woodlands history with Plains history. No further comment is needed.
@@FireWalkerBigCat first,, not consolidating tribes. Get differance between plains , woodland. I've had friends growing up from Cherokee, Apache nations. Their parents were of great understanding . Many plains tribes you know lived in tents. Many woodland as well Apache were feared do to violent way of stealing ,killing other people, as stealing food horses woman. Nomads . The tribes in my State hold Pow wows and tell their history. I recall one saying they came from the crow. This is about a comment comparing European to Indian tribes in America. . At such time European were advanced compared to tribes in many ways. As for survival during famine . Got news for gent . Countless indigionus people starved ,froze to death as any European .
I'm not Cherokee or Apache and I'm definitely not going to debate my own history and culture. I was going to remove your comment but I'll let it stay. One word of advice, all tribes are not the same and some have very different ways of doing things as well as this in common. You're inserting other tribes ways on our people so word of advice, don't assume we all lived in tents or teepees. Euro-colomials most certainly lived on our rivers which was part of the problem. Don't mix us up and consolidate us like so many have done already. I won't comment any further. I hope you understand the disconnect in what you're saying.
Somebody should've asked him, how can you tell the difference between the Indians and the African?...
Great discussion👌🏾my great grandfather(Gideon Spence) was from South Mills,Camden County,NC,born in 1860. He was a Cherokee(although the Indians that inhabited his county were “Yeopim”,not sure where the Cherokee designation came from)and migrated up north(Rhode Island) in the late 1890’s. In any case,he had some “Brazilian/Portuguese” ancestry on his mother’s side. He had the “tri-racial” mixture (Cherokee,Portuguese,African)the Professor had referred to.
Thanks for your comment
Yeopim Sounds very costly to the hebrew word yapa.. the muscogees sold tea that was called yaupon. Which means shinning or radiant
Ok, where would we find the documentation on these Africans and where they came from in Africa? I would like to match the documentation with the stories.
You'll have to research colonial records and archives.
I would like the slides please but l don’t see your email address. I was taking screenshots and gave up! Thank you❤
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True you and yours have your own BIASES instead of the truth.
I don't understand your comment
You must also realize that there were people living outside of the European colonies! That were confined to the colonies!
Where are the Africans from if they are in English armies and what is that alliance called?
Good question.
Muscogee indians where called moores due to color but they were indian.. after all the stock of seminoles who descend also from the creeks were mustee.. or muskeet.. mulungeon, mulatto.. ets. But this has nothing to do with africa..
If People from Africa were here in the 1500's and before then how can it be that Africans came in 1619?
If Drake brought and employed/ paid? Then why would he have to release them ?
Sir Francis Drake was a Mixed looking man like #Creole he was a #Viking why isn’t he using that noun
Where are the Anniyanwia in all of this?
Walter Pleckert law
I'm not sure about Africans because even so called Africans don't call themselves so and the wight man is the one that came up with the name Africa everybody not African
because of the persecution and enslavement that was legal they hid their African ancestry. wouldn't you.
@@stephaniemartin7220no, they just weren’t from Africa, like most “blacks” in America aren’t from Africa.
how ridiculous. They did have some African ancestry, and in America it's complicated. The reason why they were compelled to hide their African ancestry is because of the one drop rule in Jim Crow era. It's not that they didn't know, they weren't allowed to have pride for all their ancestors, only certain ones.@@kungfukenny1540
@kungfuke 💯
@@kungfukenny1540exactly
The funny part about this "presentation " is that he's not showing a source or logs. Then says he just drops off 700 "Africans" that he mistakenly called Indians in the beginning then cleaned it up...I smell bs on that too.
Yea family my father is adopted from south Hampton born and my mother side is all through vance franklin warren county Sandy creek Henderson nc all the way bacc to the 1820 census my dna came back 92% west African 1% Peru 1% Philippino 6% European another test said i was 72% carrib let's link family keep researching yourself
No disrespect to you brother, but why do you call them Indians when the land is not India?
None of them, indigenous, Indian, native American, American Indian or Aboriginal are our words so we don't get caught up in what they labeled us.
If you aren’t speaking on the Ancient History of the Carolinaopolis he is an agent of the conquistadors Older than the continent of Aethiopia
Nonsense... If you're not connected to the people or the communities or know the families please take that somewhere else. We don't entertain those conversations here.
What language did aboriginal americans speak?
Many languages and dialects.
@FireWalkerBigCat Ok, please name one mother tongue aboriginal language. Can I look this information up?
@@Horemakhet_ any of the Sioux, Algonquian, Muskogee or Iroquois languages in North America.
@FireWalkerBigCat The word "sioux" is french in origin, and it means "to speak a foreign language." Can you name any languages that are indigenous to america without any french influence?
Tutelo is a dialect of the some Siouan not French. English also has Spanish & French words because it’s a trade language and indigenous people speak it.
He purposely left out that native Americans were shipped to Africa as well and is another reason why I said this is disingenuous...you can't know one without the other because its part of the primary sources... tell him to show his primary source and spot where he got it from next time he does a presentation 😉
Contact him at the University and ask him and let us know. By the way his family is from Indian Woods and buried on Indian Woods reservation so he's not just reading books for sources and I understand your comment regarding Europeans. Thanks
@@FireWalkerBigCat it's funny how he never spoke about the Occaneechi not once but talked about tribes all around them... Chief Sekhu from Yamassee would also disagree with some things he said also.
They ate each other
Why would he leave his soldiers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tri racial came mostly through black indigenous AKA Indians owning white women servants
WHERE DID THE NATIVE AMERICANS COME FROM ALSO THEIRS A PLAY ON WORDS ONE MINUTE NATIVE AMERICAN NEXT INDIAN THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
My viewers who have followed my videos understand this already as I have mentioned multiple times the use of certain words. We don't get lost in words we didn't create or names we didn't give to ourselves.
Spain introduced west Indies to the main land of America's. He's calling African
Now he's showing his hand 52:18 Indians depicted with Afros not long straight hair🌋🌋🌋🌋 ...those weren't Africans either if I remember from the primary source. He had 2 Indian escorts smh... I can be wrong but if memory serves lol...this dude BUGGIN
Why and when did they European start classifying Africans and so called Indians is black and colored and infact Indians because it disconnected them from their land along with the Unam Sanctum doctrine of discovery operations around that time!
Walter Pleckert, look him up, will tell you alot.
There's this level of being disingenuous here...I'll show you how. He won't show you a primary source. Some of what's being said is true but its being mixed, misdirected and is conjecture turned or made to be facts. I read the primary sources ...he won't tell you about the black Europeans who were first as if they ain't show up or was around and that's where the trust goes out the window.
I was just introduced to your channel by a neighbour in London UK. It is so interesting that her background is Scottish/Irish but she is interested in the link with Irish/Scottish and Moors. I have subbed to your channel.
@@coralscrafts7258 Kurimeo ahua channel talks A LOT about the black Europeans (Sephardic Moorish jews, huegenots Jacobites ect) who showed up here with slaves and we saw them,, well my ancestors and how there's A LOT of whitewashed characters in history
@@DaRealGody Thank you so much for the information. I loved your comments and the amazing ability not to just accept. I believe in questioning everything.
@@coralscrafts7258 and SHOULD question EVERYthing...
@@coralscrafts7258 NO problem and there's others who talk on it as well but you'll like how the sources are shown and it's not just convincing sounding conversation meant to lure but shows no primary sources
We are the #Tobacco Indians and the Europeans were Swarthy he is
Lying Drake is a European family of Sephardic origin
African or African American self identity . didn't exist
When you work for ziddy you are only going to tell ziddy story
Also those weren't Africans that were taken off the Spanish boat in 1619...they were called Negras or negros. They knew the difference in 1619 and would've called them Africans...smh the games these fake historians play. Mind you he showed a map that had the Indians on it with "Afros " next to Europeans on the bottom right of the map. You woulda agreed they were Africans if he woulda gave you a story lol