Hamza Yusuf on Giving Bay'ah to a Sufi Shaykh?

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  • @jdabdinasir8026
    @jdabdinasir8026 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What i like about this sheikh is he is open minded and does not blindly belive in any methodology

  • @dr.mobarakali255
    @dr.mobarakali255 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The best path is what the Qur'an says: "Ask the Ahle Zikr if you do not know. " Alhamdulillah

    • @holdshiftt2run308
      @holdshiftt2run308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      btw, Ahlul dhikr refers to the scholars. Not people jumping around in the masjid going: "HOO!HOO!"

    • @hasansafdar2202
      @hasansafdar2202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@holdshiftt2run308 so then it should have said ahle Ilam then

    • @holdshiftt2run308
      @holdshiftt2run308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hasansafdar2202 It's clear you don't really understand the Quran. Yes, it refers to people of knowledge and people who seek knowledge. Knowledge is dhikr as well. This interpretation is from the salaf, not from me.

    • @hasansafdar2202
      @hasansafdar2202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@holdshiftt2run308 but there is not only one interpretation. Alhamdulillah I am have friends and family who have studied Quran and I am learning from them. The Hooo Hooo comment was really not needed. If you truly have knowledge be humble.
      Alhamdulillah you should study or research Sufism. Anyways we muslims need unity let’s stay positive :)

    • @Ishaaaaaak
      @Ishaaaaaak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@holdshiftt2run308 people like you go through TH-cam and beleive any stupid thing to be Sufism . I bet you haven't even read a single thing about Sufis . These modern day people who start kicking balls in masaajid are not Sufis . They are just jaahils . Sufis are much higher than the knowledge of any of us .

  • @yojan9238
    @yojan9238 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I do agree with Shaikh Hamzah, but i do have a shaikh in tariqat. My shaikh is also an open minded person. He also told us to learn more from other Shaikhs and Faqihs. Especially in the Aqeedah of Asha'irah or Maturidiyah and in the Shariat. But in the method of zikr, we need to follow only the method of our Shaikh who had taken it from his teachers before right untill the Prophet PBUH. We can have many teachers in this Deen, but usually only a person can be our spiritual guide. As long as the Shaikh follows the Shariah in the zohir or batin stance, it is compulsory for us to follow and give loyalty to him.My Shaikh is a Shaikh in Shattariyah and Anfasiah Tariqat.

    • @iecsao
      @iecsao 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo Jan I would like to know about it

    • @safetyleednkom8274
      @safetyleednkom8274 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are your shayhk from my brother? Can you tell us more about the Shattariyah and Anfasiah brother.. hope to hear from you soon! Wassalamu alaykum!

    • @High_101
      @High_101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Masha Allah brother. I think thats a real good opinion

    • @purple9rain
      @purple9rain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MashaAllah how is the zikir like? You mean like certain things to say, how many times to say it like this? Could you elaborate on the zikir. Jazak Allahu Khairun

  • @HashimAziz1
    @HashimAziz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've held this opinion for a while and never heard it expressed by any prominent Sufi shaykhs before, so I'm impressed to hear it from Shaykh Hamza. Also very interesting to know it was the opinion of Habib Ahmad Mashhur al-Haddad.

  • @999foothill
    @999foothill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quran and Sunnah are enough to pass this life peacefully and productively moving on to the next life, Alhamdulillah!!!

    • @truthsearcher1393
      @truthsearcher1393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As simple as that.

    • @suyelahmed5395
      @suyelahmed5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redpill6379 loving the Prophet Pbuh is by knowing and following his commands i. E his Sunnah

    • @redpill6379
      @redpill6379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suyelahmed5395 Reality Of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ🌹
      th-cam.com/video/gfuLOWY2xB8/w-d-xo.html

    • @hid4768
      @hid4768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, the Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him said: "The worst of things are those that are newly invented; every newly-invented thing is an innovation and every innovation is going astray, and every going astray is in the Fire"

  • @ouizren
    @ouizren 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's obvious! If you have a teacher in spirituality you need to listen to him alone on these matters. Even in football or any sport a unique coach is necessary. You can't have numerous coachs at the same time.

  • @DawudIsrael
    @DawudIsrael  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video is not an attack of the Sufi path, but an honest advice and call for scrupulousness (wara') in the path of scrupulousness (wara').

    • @neothamada9863
      @neothamada9863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      brother Dawud, do you know the title/url for the full lecture, from where this clip was taken? thanks in advance

  • @shaju0
    @shaju0 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some of the comments are way out of context. Uneducated people will rule the world one day and most of those people are on TH-cam. Lol

  • @truesametic165
    @truesametic165 ปีที่แล้ว

    West African Muslim is some sincere practicing Muslims. And follow sunnah and spiritual path as well.

  • @adamismailwanjor
    @adamismailwanjor 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always I hear about the bad sufi sheykh and only the opinions that are not in the aspect of people who do not practice the sufi tariqah. The answer is always the same. I think this is due to their not taking a sufi teacher as a reference in the search for authentic evidence for knowledge. May Allah guide us and grant us a Sheykh to guide us as the Hadith by Ibnu Abbas RA which practice the 3 pillars of Islam, Tauhid, Fiqh and Tasawuf.

  • @salihambattuparambil7767
    @salihambattuparambil7767 ปีที่แล้ว

    My religious views had no basis other than observations. Amazingly, as far as what I heard him say, it is the same as my views.
    سبحان الملك القدوس

  • @MsSimpleMovies
    @MsSimpleMovies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    SO easy to fall into a "Sufi" cult these days. In the past, mureeds would study tasawwuf after having their fard 'ayn knowledge strong. Now we try to skip the Islaam and Eemaan to go straight to Ihsaan. The person has qadaa ' prayers and fasts to make up, but is ignoring those to do extra dhikr after Fajr. Allah teaches us in a Hadeeth Qudsi that His servant comes to Him with nothing more beloved to Him than the fard, and that he gets closer to Him with the extra acts. Many "Sufi Shaykhs" today are not really helping, but are using students' eagerness and ignorance for their own benefit, making a little cult following for themselves.
    Red alert if the "Shaykh" puts down any other scholar to his "elite" group of followers in private lessons, or pits students against each other in emotional dogfights to win his "love" and attention. They need to be held accountable to Sharee'ah more than anyone else.

    • @azrahkerven8714
      @azrahkerven8714 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please advise me upon this exact matter

    • @Ishaaaaaak
      @Ishaaaaaak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree there exist no Sufis in today's world .

    • @ValentineCrescent
      @ValentineCrescent ปีที่แล้ว

      Recite what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, ˹genuine˺ prayer should deter ˹one˺ from indecency and wickedness. The remembrance of Allah is ˹an˺ even greater ˹deterrent˺. And Allah ˹fully˺ knows what you ˹all˺ do. 29:45
      Do not speak of matters you know very little about if you wish not to walk a path of ignorance.

    • @MsSimpleMovies
      @MsSimpleMovies ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ValentineCrescent I am a lover of tasawwuf, but not of the fake shaykhs. Read what I wrote there. What is there to disagree with?
      1) Prioritize Fard over Naafil dhikr
      2) Don't follow anyone who sows seeds of fitna
      This is just common knowledge amongst Muslims.
      And those of us who followed well-known and beloved murshids know better than most that Shaytaan has gripped many a "murshid" by his vanity.
      All the "SIDNA, SIDNA", hand kissing and standing up for them has gotten to their heads.

    • @ValentineCrescent
      @ValentineCrescent ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsSimpleMovies I agree about fake shaykhs, theres many of them, much more than actual ones. However, dont down play the significance of a true Awliya and dont be too quick to judge someone who isnt praying but atleast doing dhikr. Read the verse again, it is clearly written what Allah has said about His remembrance (Dhikr). If you look at the adaab of the great sufis for their murshids, you'd understand that for a true murshid, you have to discard the idea of your self. As Maulana Rumi said, soak even your prayer mat in wine if the Sheikh tells you to do so, for the (true) murshid knows what you do not.

  • @amirasiya07
    @amirasiya07 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As-Salaam'mu Alaikum! The only thing that will question GUIDANCE...is your "ego" and the shaiton.

  • @mauricemaxey8772
    @mauricemaxey8772 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shouldn't your sovereignty be only to Allah?

    • @evrensami3288
      @evrensami3288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy is a fake Sufi
      Mocking the teslim of the mureed to the murshid as slavish behaviour and quoting from the orientalists philosers to justify he's reluctance to be a mureed.
      He's no saint nor a mureed and he has the audacity to make false allegations against Auwliya Allah.

    • @amersekic8535
      @amersekic8535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evrensami3288 for your lack of information and education. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf had shaikh. His shaykh passed away.

  • @amirasiya07
    @amirasiya07 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Salaams, this isn't an attack on Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, But the EGO will have you believe that you gain entry into paradise "by reading your way into heaven"...but yet, the Prophet(saw) could not read nor write? And he had a 'Spiritual Guide'*And I aint referring to Allah(swt) either* All that "book" knowledge will serve you no help once you leave this life! Allah says in the Qur'an,"OBEY ME, OBEY the Prophet(saw) and OBEY those in AUTHORITY over you!!!"

  • @Maturidi333
    @Maturidi333 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mashallah! pir sab, lol.

  • @usmanbasyah4326
    @usmanbasyah4326 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Salam, find the real one..we can not judge if we are not on it. ITS all speculation

  • @janinawa7844
    @janinawa7844 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thers is no wrong of what is saying....he giving an advice to us the we have to be carefull of choising of shiekh......ti gide us

    • @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب
      @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      allah is the guide

    • @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب
      @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      surely not through asufi panthiest sheikh who worshp graves and and keep rolling around allah allah inventing in the relegion DO YOU kNOw WHAT BAYA IS there is ahadith who ever comes to you and tell you to come and do baya to another than who you did baya to strike his neck its not an easy thing people in the west they are rushing towards the deen our deen is not watching tv drinking orange juice they are talking it holly would style people check the quran well read it well and the sahih authentic sunnah thats your main sources of revelation your guide from allah and hear then alsalafualsalih and alsalamu alaikom warahmatu allahi wabara katuh

    • @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب
      @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      if im remembering right hes saying to give baya to asufi sheikh baya is when you approve this person as the wali alamr like when the prophet some come to him from far lands to become muslims but after the prophet it s now to approve that this person wali alamr is your wali alamr like khilafa we dont have this now when we have thre khilafa we all should go do baya search it more on google iknow your not saying to worship graves but those sufis gonna takre you their and suffism in the general sense is related to panthiesm im not talking about muslim sufis ahlualsunna who follow the real menhag of the sahaba just pray fast read quran recite if you want to learn sharia alot of institues are there keep it with the jama meaning jkeep it with the group of muslims ourv relegion is simple cristal clear brother

    • @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب
      @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      its not applyed now its only applied when we muslims get back to the khilafa then its permissble to give bayya

  • @khadijabenassou8996
    @khadijabenassou8996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are all wrong. You all misunderstood The Qo'raan, The Perfect Word of Allaah❤❤❤, The Alknown. You misquide people. You add things to Islaam. This is SHIRK

    • @sammas7422
      @sammas7422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      48 times a day Allah swt has made surah fatiha farz in every rakaah On the 6th Ayah Allah swt tells us to ask him Ihdinas siratal mustakeem (Ya Allah guide us to the straight path). Whats the straight path? Allah tells us in the next Ayah..
      The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.
      So Allah swt himself is telling us we need to follow the path of the righteous men.. who are these righteous men?? We don't need to ask any molisaab or Alim. It's in the Qur'an.
      And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger - those will be with the ones upon whom Allah has bestowed favor of the prophets, the steadfast affirmers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions. (Surah nisa 4-69)
      We can't list all the nabiyyin but who is the king of all the prophets? Hazrat Muhammad peace be upon him, who's the king of the siddiquin? Hazrat Abu bakr siddiqu r.a. Who's the king of the shuhadah? Imam hussain r.a. Who's the king of the saliheen? Sheikh abdul qadir jilani r.a.
      48 times a day Allah is making us ask him to make us walk on the straight path, the path of the prophet, the path of hazrat Abu bakr siddique, the path of imam Hussain and the path of his saliheen the awliya the path of khwaja ghareeb nawaz the path of sheikh Abdul qadir jilani r.a.
      If we are to get our deen directly from Allah swt and his prophet peace be upon him why would Allah swt make us ask this dua 48 times a day. We failed to understand the maqam of his awliya the saliheen the siddiquin the shuhada and the nabiyyin.
      May Allah give us tawfeek.

    • @sammas7422
      @sammas7422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sister shirk is a very big accusation and allah knows best but can potentially threaten our own imaan the accusation so please do bring some solid evidence for this accusation or do tauba and read the kalimah again just in case and we should make a habit of constantly reading kalimah

    • @khadijabenassou8996
      @khadijabenassou8996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sammas7422 Allaah ❤❤❤The Almighty is very clear about it in The Qo'raan. Allaah❤❤❤ The Alknown strictly forbidden us to follow self written hadith and books. Allaah❤❤❤ call them muchrikeen in The Qo'raan. The Word of Allaah❤❤❤ The Alknown is Perfect. Do not lett them misquide you. I'm telling The Truth with Allaah ❤❤❤ as my Witness and Teacher.
      Woe.... The Time is near.

    • @niz7353
      @niz7353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khadijabenassou8996 it is not shirk. shirk means to associate partners with Allah. adding things to Islam is bid'ah.

    • @khadijabenassou8996
      @khadijabenassou8996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sammas7422
      Its SHIRK. No doubt about it
      Allaah ❤ ❤ ❤ The Almighty is very clear about it The Qo'raan.
      Read The Qo'raan again and again and again and again and think. Allaah ❤ ❤ ❤ is The Almighty, The Alknown.
      The Time is near. Laaillahaillellaah ❤ ❤ ❤

  • @masteryoda8679
    @masteryoda8679 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings good and bad people on the day of jugedment you will stand with the group you follow in this live so make sure its a group that pleases g-d then you will be safe sunni suffi shia wath does it matter i know suffis have always more ilm an adeb then most commen muslim en remeber what our beloved prophed says about people in islam that misguide you are a bigger enemy then shaitans may g-d guide us and keep us on the right path greetings good and bad people

  • @sendemibrutus8697
    @sendemibrutus8697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lawrence 2.0

  • @brucevonray
    @brucevonray 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Allah mentions The Murchid in Surah "Khaf"...Read ur Quran people

  • @mchaudry9811
    @mchaudry9811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The “peer Saabs” are mostly committing Shrik. Stay away from them. Remember what prophet Mohammad (pbuh) said in his last sermon. Do not ask or worship me and they have done to Isa. Worship God and ask God alone...He is alive and never die.

  • @abdelbaasit1
    @abdelbaasit1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ^ I know!! Seriously...

  • @HollaDaBalla
    @HollaDaBalla 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    why are u quoting a saying that is not in Qiran or hadeeth? "if u dont have a sheikh, then Quran is 5our shheikh" and have forgotten the mercy of your Lord? He will guide whomever He wills, however He wills.

    • @Jannatulfirdaus907
      @Jannatulfirdaus907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He sayd when u dont have a sheikh shaytan is your sheikh

  • @yasminenazarine1629
    @yasminenazarine1629 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yusuf hamza studied too much Muslims pagans Jew Christians he was Catholics originally that his choice I'm simple Muslim I follow what ever my grand nana grand baba follow simple Muslims mother wasn't good Muslims she was lose Muslims like city people I gollow prophet muhamed peace be upon him & do like to listen to thses sheikh how to pray how to be good Muslims what is blessing to read in prayer the test I'm not much care I don't rule the world or country I've studied about Christians Catholics who they are where come from how created from where by whom anyway peace love mercy bless to Muslims
    EID💖 Mubarak💝🌻
    ☝👍✌
    ☝👍✌

  • @rocketleague2136
    @rocketleague2136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sufis = innovators

    • @rocketleague2136
      @rocketleague2136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bundwich what technology has to do with definiton of ibadah?

    • @rocketleague2136
      @rocketleague2136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bundwich innovators in religion. Try harder
      Hadith of Sahih Muslim: 867 read in English, Urdu, Arabic.
      و كل بدعة ضلالة، وكل ضلالة في النار
      And every innovation (in Deen) is misguidance and all misguidance is in the Hellfire.

    • @rocketleague2136
      @rocketleague2136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bundwich do not be hypocrite

    • @yourstruly5706
      @yourstruly5706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The hadith doesn't even say deen, imagine inserting something via brackets 🤣

  • @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب
    @يزنالشوابكه-ط2ب 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    surely the concept of baia is not in this context surely not to asufi panthiest grave worshiper sufi baia is athing and studying sharia and the relegion is another thing hundreds of institues around the islamic world teach sharia alhamdu lillah

  • @HollaDaBalla
    @HollaDaBalla 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    so plz dont say if u dont have a sheikh then shaytan is your sheikh! no!

  • @MrFazyx
    @MrFazyx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you don't have a sheikh shaytaan is your shaikh? "it's a saying not a hadith". what the hell? the more I look into hamza yusuf the more misguidance I see

    • @MsSimpleMovies
      @MsSimpleMovies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's a very known saying, and it's not a Hadeeth. Where in that statement is there any misguidance? I think if we know we tend to have bad opinions of certain teachers, it might be best to refrain from listening to them. It's healthier and safer to suspect our own bad opinions than to expose ourselves repeatedly to situations where we might be judging someone poorly in our hearts (whether that judgement is accurate or not). Best to listen to teachers whose teachings we love, and leave it at that.

    • @dan138zig
      @dan138zig 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's indeed not a hadith. it's a well known saying from bayazid al bustami. i don't see any misguidance

    • @noorhassan4361
      @noorhassan4361 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MsSimpleMovies I am a Sufi and I will tell u it is misguidance.

    • @dan138zig
      @dan138zig 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      NB 9
      what misguidance?

    • @MrFazyx
      @MrFazyx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Forget sayings. Go by examples and evidence of the prophet Muhammad saw and his companions RA
      For someone to lecture and provide not sahih evidence is very dangerous

  • @qasis42
    @qasis42 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Giving bayah to a Shaykh is bida'ah. Just tell these sufis straight. The only person we should follow blindly is Prophet muhammad (saw). Having a teacher to learn from is important yes but not to blindly follow and give bayah too. We learn the methodology of learning so we can learn ourselves

    • @muhammedansar5452
      @muhammedansar5452 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are an unintelligent person to follow muhammed saw blindly you have to go to a teacher, Allah said in the quran oh you who believe if you do not know ask those who know. So to know what the prophet said and follow it blindly you need a teacher. So don't be stupid

    • @qasis42
      @qasis42 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes "if" you don't know then ask ahlul dhikr. Meaning people of knowledge and understanding. That doesn't mean you take their opinion blindly. Nobody knows everything about the deen except Prophet Muhammad(saw). All deen rulings are from the Qur'an and authentic sunnah not from people's opinions or what they "think" is the correct understanding. And Allah made this deen easy to follow and understand not difficult. Where does Islam say you have to give bayah to a Shaykh? It says give bayah to the sultan (leader) of the Islamic state. And you can't obey anyone in disobedience to Allah.

    • @qasis42
      @qasis42 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** bayah to a Shaykh is bida'ah. Where's evidence to say you have to give bayah to a Shaykh?

    • @ahmedeey1
      @ahmedeey1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Burhan the Somali
      The burden of proof is on you to prove it. You are claiming it is not so bring forth your evidence. Our evidence is simply this is not from the teaching of the prophet SAW.

    • @khallil1997
      @khallil1997 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carlito Ibn Jackson having a shaykh is simply having someone to help you just like going to a doctor. It's just a waseela, knowing that Allah creates everything. Do you understand what I mean brother? The sahaba had the prophet to help them stay on the right path (he was their sheikh). For the majority it's hard to have a dead person leading you, a sheikh is basically the one being in the prophet's place for you, so helping you so you stay on the right path and come closer to Allah Teala. Not just that, but there were also people from the Salaful Salihin that had sheykhs. Omar for example was also a sheikh, he had a murrid. And you can't just classify everything as bid'a.

  • @zaydmia5097
    @zaydmia5097 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an isolated opinion

    • @SUNNISMO
      @SUNNISMO 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Zayd Hussein Mia Not it's not

    • @HashimAziz1
      @HashimAziz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even if it was, opinions change over time and become ijma', as fiqh was intended to work.

  • @imsoniceee
    @imsoniceee 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    thum down