@@L1B4NN1NHO "In everyway" - having both the IKV-91-105 still good with a baller 8.7 line-up. The worst thing about the IKV-91-105 is the small driver port hump that makes it annoying to use its "depression". The round on it is better but that's pretty much it. Though I'd use the Object 906 over both of them.
This thing is amazing, I love it. I unlocked it fairly shortly after it was released and I don't remember it having thermals so if that's true, it was probably a very short lived thing. Also the TAM is based on the marder chassis so I don't blame you for calling it that lol.
The problem is how can you join such lots of downtier game. In my experience, the BR 8.7 or 9.x will become the meat grinder of nearly fully uptiers right now.
Love this tank, it doesn’t get much play time because I’m tired of running 9.7 games in it. My average for full uptiers at 8.7 is 89 games out of 100 played (yes I document the games on an excel spreadsheet)
@@ruub9971 you mean 1 vehicle in your line up or ? Not sure what exactly you’re asking. If I have a 7.0 line up and I’m uptiered to 8.0 game that’s a full uptier. If I have 5 vehicles that are 7.7 and 1 that’s 8.0 and I’m uptiered to 9.0 that’s my own stupidity. Uptiers shouldn’t exist at all. If you run a 7.0 tank you shouldn’t ever have to play 8.0 tanks unless you choose to. My 6.7 German and US line up have a 88% ratio of getting uptiered to 7.7 out of more than 1000 games now. We have over 20 people tracking BR compression issues. There is a hidden MMR which impacts uptiers as well. My main account has several thousand hours of play time, a 79% win ratio and shows a 84% skill ratio on Thunder skill. I don’t put a lot of stock in TS but not aware of anything else track skill progression. The main account, no matter the BR played or nation played has currently a 77% uptier rating. My alt account which was created with only testing n mind. It has a 47% TS rating and a 49% win ration. The uptier on that account through 6.7 across France, German, US and Russia is less than 50%. Constant uptiers in this game happen for a few reasons, one of which is predatory and I don’t agree with any of them. They should have enough tech tree vehicles and premiums to flush out extensive line ups and should never require a single uptier unless you choose to bring a tank from the next tier.
I'd probably get yourself a medium to go with it, my choice would be the T-55AMD :) it's also very fun to deny missiles with that thing, but you'll have to research the 55A first
It basically is an ikv with less gun depression a worse gun a better engine and an auto loader. But the ikv with having 4 crew will save you a surprising amount
I find it a bit underrated but for a good reason, i played it when the BMP-3 was still 8.7 along with it quite alot, and its definately good, its massively worse than the BMP-3 but certainly better than the BMP-2, the gun is great but the mobility is kinda bad for the shitty lack of armour it has, the gun handling is also sluggish to be honest, the autoloader, for being just a 100mm is a bit sad, but its surely good. Dont take me wrong, i'd still take this thing over a shitty bmp-2 any day of the week, but to say its underrated and amazing is a bit of an exageration, very good video tho turny, haven't had my nuke with this one yet ngl
Idk what it is with youtubers making mediocre vehicles out as "amazing" and/or "overpowered" and/or "VERY UNDER RATED". This tank is incredibly mid. Its ONLY redeeming factor is a 6 sec autoloader. 100mm 3BM25 is a horrible, disfigured brother of the 105mm DM13, it likes to bounce way too much, and APHE is good in theory, until you meet something that isn't a leopard 1
That's because since the Ukraine war GayJin has increased the bias towards the Russian tanks even more. becuz the whole world now knows just how really bad Russian tanks are in real life. the videos out there prove it. like the Bradley 25mm destroys T-90m tanks and drones with a grenade come on man.
Slava Ukranina! Regarding this tank though, it really had a wild ride regarding how Gaijin messed with it. Russian assets aren't as good as Russia has claimed, but two IFVs bullying a T-90 isn't analogous to drone dropped munitions. Drones are a more prominent threat due to their small size (relative to most other threats especially.) and the damage they can cause. The roof of all tanks is a major weak-spot. The T-90 being bullied by two Bradleys doesn't surprise me because the reality of war is much more terrifying. Suddenly having your mom's basement on tracks being rattled by two different guns would obviously disorientate the crew in an also limited SA situation. The tanks in WarThunder benefit from a 3rd person view that increases the crews SA to insane levels. WarThunder also fails to simulate so many other little bits of minutiae that it's not worth hashing out in a TH-cam comment.
I support Ukraine full handley but the whole Bradley 25 mm destroyed the T-90M. It didn't, it disabled/scared the crew. The crew abandoned it to where it later got destroyed by several drones/artillery.
@@Kwisss it was a combat kill, sure the T-90M didn't erupt into flames, but it was made combat ineffective as most of the optics were (probably) destroyed, the crew was deafened and completely disorientated, and the turret ring probably sustained damage. This is what caused the crew to crash the tank and abandon it, so yes, that Bradley did "kill" that T-90M.
There is a Swedish clone of this thing ikv 91 105 that is truly underrated
IKV is worse in every way but at the same BR =O
@@L1B4NN1NHO "In everyway" - having both the IKV-91-105 still good with a baller 8.7 line-up. The worst thing about the IKV-91-105 is the small driver port hump that makes it annoying to use its "depression". The round on it is better but that's pretty much it. Though I'd use the Object 906 over both of them.
@@L1B4NN1NHObro every tank is every nation is a worse version of ussr. But since we are on rhetorical I also breath 21% oxygen most of the time.
@cmanmaxwell The Strv 122, Leo 2 A7, Fuji and a bunch of planes & bluewater ships kindly disagree with you 😂
@@L1B4NN1NHO No DM23.
This thing and the T55AM's are a deadly combination, especially if you use the APCBC
AMD1 with drozd... fucking great.
Man every time u laugh I just get the visual image of that animated woodpecker😂
Woody the woodpecker?
I forgot that existed until I saw this comment 😂
the main reason this is at 8.7 is the absolutely horrible stock grind of the vehicle. It's slow, it has no gun handling, heat fs, and no armor.
Oh trust me I know, took me a year to actually bother to get round and get it spaded 😂
I love the 685! I pair this with the T-62 and Object 435 and let loose!
It's a great lineup! though this tank is the best of them in my opinion :)
I just go with Object 685, Object 906 and BMP-2 lineup. Absolute menace. Oh you killed me in my Object? Get ready to face my BMP-2 apds spam.
Whilst farming for the T-72A, this became one of my most used vehicles.
Bro got triple nuke like it was nothing 🗿
Bro those were BOTH Marders. Did you have a stroke 😂
Noted, all Marders are TAMs
i mean the hulls are basically the same
This thing is amazing, I love it. I unlocked it fairly shortly after it was released and I don't remember it having thermals so if that's true, it was probably a very short lived thing.
Also the TAM is based on the marder chassis so I don't blame you for calling it that lol.
I'm surprised your team didn't shoot you down for that early nuke.
The enemies in blue will really go as far as to commit such a heinous act?
@@MunicipalityCity oh yeah
@@MunicipalityCity i've seen it MULTIPLE times
My favorite tank, no one has videos on it tho 😢
The 8.7 Soviet BR is my favorite.
Definitely a permanent part of my 8.7 lineup
Pretty sure this has adjustable suspension since its a BMP-3
Very underrated indeed.
The ptz 89 is extremely underrated also sitting at 8.7 with a 5s autoloader APFSDS and a gun stabilizer
That thing, Turm 3 and TAM 2IP are object's mortal enemies
Ikv 91 105 when
Interesting. Everytime I see people talk about 8.7 lineups they say don't bring this. Looks like they were stupid.
I dont know how, the thing is an absolute beast (though I will say, it sucks until its spaded)
leos are good...then there's this thing literally next to them...
russian tank that can drive backwards
Yes, the reverse gear is saucy!
8.0 germany trembling seeing this thing
this is a beast. I love this sooo much since I got it a few months ago
Once its spaded its great!
This thing was 9.7 once with 5° horizontal turret speed...
That is the 2s25m and it is bad
May I request some Ru-251 action?
You shoud try the AMX-13 DCA
One of the Objects of all time.
I think you should try to main the APHE if APDS is not good enough for your taste. Russian 100mm APHE is very strong, even at this BR
great. another rusisan light tank i need to add to my lineup. thanks turny :P
I think my fastest nuke is like 4 minutes with flying to the battle field!
An Ikv 91-105 but better, I utterly despised fighting this thing at 8.7
Finally the vid is out thx turny!
The problem is how can you join such lots of downtier game. In my experience, the BR 8.7 or 9.x will become the meat grinder of nearly fully uptiers right now.
my first ever nuke was in this tank lmao
T-55amd-1, object 685 and bmp-2 for Russias 8.7. I dont think I've seen a better comp for a lineup in any other nation.
The sweden 8.7 lineup is arguably stronger strv 103c ikv 91 105 saab 105 itpsv 90 pbv302 bill strv 104
british 8.7 is awesome
5:50 HOW ARE YOU NOT SPOTTED ON THE MAP MAN WTF TOGGLE OFF
You can actually get behind enemy spawn radar in some maps
looks like blind bots, no one is even shooting at you-too easy
That's the beauty of an aggressive playstyle :)
Love this tank, it doesn’t get much play time because I’m tired of running 9.7 games in it. My average for full uptiers at 8.7 is 89 games out of 100 played (yes I document the games on an excel spreadsheet)
Just 1 question: do you consider 1 vehicle being a BR higher to be 'uptier'? Cuz its not. Its an uptier when several/the average is higher BR
@@ruub9971 you mean 1 vehicle in your line up or ? Not sure what exactly you’re asking. If I have a 7.0 line up and I’m uptiered to 8.0 game that’s a full uptier.
If I have 5 vehicles that are 7.7 and 1 that’s 8.0 and I’m uptiered to 9.0 that’s my own stupidity.
Uptiers shouldn’t exist at all. If you run a 7.0 tank you shouldn’t ever have to play 8.0 tanks unless you choose to.
My 6.7 German and US line up have a 88% ratio of getting uptiered to 7.7 out of more than 1000 games now. We have over 20 people tracking BR compression issues.
There is a hidden MMR which impacts uptiers as well. My main account has several thousand hours of play time, a 79% win ratio and shows a 84% skill ratio on Thunder skill.
I don’t put a lot of stock in TS but not aware of anything else track skill progression. The main account, no matter the BR played or nation played has currently a 77% uptier rating.
My alt account which was created with only testing n mind. It has a 47% TS rating and a 49% win ration. The uptier on that account through 6.7 across France, German, US and Russia is less than 50%.
Constant uptiers in this game happen for a few reasons, one of which is predatory and I don’t agree with any of them. They should have enough tech tree vehicles and premiums to flush out extensive line ups and should never require a single uptier unless you choose to bring a tank from the next tier.
I get lots of downtiers playing 8.7 Germany, and whenever I play 7.7 or 8.0 I always get uptieres to 8.7 mainly against Russia
What would you pair with thus I am at this exact point in the tech tree and wasnt gonna research it in favour of the bmp3 any recommendations
any t-54/t55/t-62. Bmp 3 is rough imo. the sprut and the sprutM are great though :)
I'd probably get yourself a medium to go with it, my choice would be the T-55AMD :) it's also very fun to deny missiles with that thing, but you'll have to research the 55A first
TH-cam algorithm comment
Idk but it reminds me a little of the Ikv 91-105😅😂
It basically is an ikv with less gun depression a worse gun a better engine and an auto loader. But the ikv with having 4 crew will save you a surprising amount
since when did this thing get apfsds?!
Pretty sure it always has!
aaaaand its 9.3
Sweden 8.7 PLAY IT its busted
Mama mia
It'sa me Mario
I find it a bit underrated but for a good reason, i played it when the BMP-3 was still 8.7 along with it quite alot, and its definately good, its massively worse than the BMP-3 but certainly better than the BMP-2, the gun is great but the mobility is kinda bad for the shitty lack of armour it has, the gun handling is also sluggish to be honest, the autoloader, for being just a 100mm is a bit sad, but its surely good.
Dont take me wrong, i'd still take this thing over a shitty bmp-2 any day of the week, but to say its underrated and amazing is a bit of an exageration, very good video tho turny, haven't had my nuke with this one yet ngl
Day 262 of asking for some juicy black prince gameplay 👾
Use the APHE, 90% of the shots you took would pen with APHE, and consistently one shot too
Day 1 of asking for fcm 36
what's wrong with vietnam?
Horrible map!
@@TurnyPlays what makes it so horrible though?
Idk what it is with youtubers making mediocre vehicles out as "amazing" and/or "overpowered" and/or "VERY UNDER RATED". This tank is incredibly mid. Its ONLY redeeming factor is a 6 sec autoloader. 100mm 3BM25 is a horrible, disfigured brother of the 105mm DM13, it likes to bounce way too much, and APHE is good in theory, until you meet something that isn't a leopard 1
Agree but I think Turny has mastered the rat style gameplay enough for it to not matter 😂😂
All i see is delicious food for the za35 (and warrior, falcon, itspv and type 87 rcv)
907 is better
Pin me or we're married now
Jokes on you, im already married to War Thunder
@@TurnyPlays I, too, have a snail addiction. Gaijin already took the house and kids
@@paulie3581 the snail offers more happiness even on high BR for sure
I know your dirty huge secret!!! You and other CC’s will very soon be named and shamed! Cheaters never prosper!
Where abouts in this video do you think I'm cheating bud? give me an example and ill explain it for you :)
you can get good at a game while being entertaining, wild idea I know
That's because since the Ukraine war GayJin has increased the bias towards the Russian tanks even more. becuz the whole world now knows just how really bad Russian tanks are in real life. the videos out there prove it. like the Bradley 25mm destroys T-90m tanks and drones with a grenade come on man.
I dont support russia, but what you are saying is disingenius at best.
Slava Ukranina!
Regarding this tank though, it really had a wild ride regarding how Gaijin messed with it.
Russian assets aren't as good as Russia has claimed, but two IFVs bullying a T-90 isn't analogous to drone dropped munitions.
Drones are a more prominent threat due to their small size (relative to most other threats especially.) and the damage they can cause. The roof of all tanks is a major weak-spot.
The T-90 being bullied by two Bradleys doesn't surprise me because the reality of war is much more terrifying.
Suddenly having your mom's basement on tracks being rattled by two different guns would obviously disorientate the crew in an also limited SA situation.
The tanks in WarThunder benefit from a 3rd person view that increases the crews SA to insane levels. WarThunder also fails to simulate so many other little bits of minutiae that it's not worth hashing out in a TH-cam comment.
I support Ukraine full handley but the whole Bradley 25 mm destroyed the T-90M. It didn't, it disabled/scared the crew. The crew abandoned it to where it later got destroyed by several drones/artillery.
@@Kwisss it was a combat kill, sure the T-90M didn't erupt into flames, but it was made combat ineffective as most of the optics were (probably) destroyed, the crew was deafened and completely disorientated, and the turret ring probably sustained damage. This is what caused the crew to crash the tank and abandon it, so yes, that Bradley did "kill" that T-90M.
Give how GayJin tread all Leopard 2
I think unlikely