Is this... is this really Matthias Wandel making furniture again? I can't believe it is true. Please pinch me! These are the videos I like the most. Especially with this great outcome. I just can hope the rest of the chair follows soon. Can't wait. Regards, Etna.
I love seeing Matthias’ Failures, not because I’m a sadist, but because it really shows that you have to pay attention to every detail or something can go wrong, which happens to me all the time.
Brilliant. Thank you very much. I was considering to bend the backs of my boy's chairs with steam but was reluctant to mess with the water and build some kind of "steam box". Your method seems so much easier to do and the idea with the wedges is great. Makes for a much nicer join and comfortable seat. I'll definitely try that and am hoping to achieve just half as good a fit as yours :D
@@peggyt1243 Tolerant wife? Maybe more like sensible. Modern ovens are not as good as the manufacturers advertise. The electronics in them can go bad very easily, the same with modern day refrigerators. I listen to the appliance doctor on the radio; he doesn't like the modern stuff all that much for that very reason.
Watch out, Matt Cremona, looks like you've got competition! 😄 Seriously, this is fascinating; I had no idea you could just bake wood into curves like that. Have you tried with different species? Definitely lots of challenges overcome in this one!
Watching my friend Pat bend ukulele sides, it's mostly just a matter of getting the wood hot enough long enough. But I don't know if stuff like spruce would work for this.
Matthias Wandel Just wanted to let you know how much I love your videos. I think I’ve watched all of them about a hundred times. Really helps to pass the time during this crappy situation we are going through. You have given me a lot of ideas that have helped me in my own shop. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy. Please keep the videos coming.
The result looks good, but it seems like you could have sacrificed one of the bending forms as something to clamp it on while cutting the tenons. May have required a little belt sander adjustment of the form to account for the final sprung-back bend though.
Very nice job! But when you reached in and grabbed that splintered wood at 3:39, with the spinning router bit just inches from your fingers, that made me wince.
In 1990 my daughter got an American Girl doll for Christmas and then wanted the accessories to match, one of which was a bow top trunk that also held a bed and had room for clothes. We could not afford it at over $200 so I built it out of 1/4 inch birch ply. To make the bow top I heated the plywood in the oven and then quickly clamped it to a form. She still has the doll, the trunk, and all of the original clothes.
What happened at 0:38 ? The board was feeding through on the final cut and suddenly the video cut forward a second or two. Was there some kickback or something edited out?
I've always wondered how tight of a bend radius you could get with these wood forming methods and if the spring-back varies between different types of wood
I'd like to see some strength test between wood bent to that shape and pieces cut out from a thicker block. I believe the bent ones would be stronger due to grain continuity, but the stress of bending might affect the result.
If your part demands a lot of strenght, your best approach will be to laminate many thinner plies of curved wood. That prevents a high stress and allows more strenght reserve for your loads.
Been watching for years. Nice to see even the youube gods themselves are mere humans. Even Matthias makes mistakes and he NEVER makes an attemt to hide silly attempts. it is EASY to learn from MW's mistakes as he focuses pretty much everything on the mistakes and what could go wrong so it does not for you. .
@@Heraclitean ... want more steam? Soak the wood for a few hours or overnight. After cooking just shut the oven off and let it cool overnight so it's totally dry..
I just thought of something watching this video again. Maybe next time you can clamp the bent pieces to the bending jig when you want to use the pantorouter. That way you have a more sturdy surface instead of just two slippery contact points.
To prevent movement during routing. The workpiece should be clamp to a hard stop not a sprung stop. Never clamp against a sprung portion. I believe it would be easier to clamp it with the curved side up while the just glued small wedge is still flat.
Project Idea - a table saw accessory that, when the blade is replaced with a pulley, allows the table saw motor to be used as it is on the table saw for a combination disc and belt sander. I do not have the funds to buy any motors strong enough for this task, I have already tried with what I have and the disc sander keeps slowing down. But, I do have a cheap job site table saw.
We had a the brown colour stove when I was around 5 (mid 1970's) there was also a green, and then yellow. I remember the colour scheme for yellow was called harvest gold. I think. Thats when everyone would have owned Sears Kenmore products.
@@matthiaswandel same here, when these things came out everyone went and ran 220v in kitchens so they could have a "fancy" new electric stove 😂 I uncapped old gas pipe last year and put a gas range back in 👍🏻
I've been subscribed for a very short time to you and was looking for the channel name by searching for this video's title in my subscription feed. Just FYI, ALL of your videos have disappeared from my feed! I don't know why...
THANK YOU! I'mot going to make a silly smart assed comment stating the obvious concerning the bending method you used. What I appreciate is your sometimes unconventional approach to a procedure. I would have NEVER considered the oven but now there is a new arrow in my quiver for some projects. Thank you again.
An ingenious method of routing those tenons. However, perhaps a little over complex? Would it not have been more simple to use a small back saw? Unless of course you are intending to make dozens of those chairs. Not being negative just wondering why you went to all the trouble? Great video.
Brilliant idea of using the oven. I would've burned down my house! I hate those days when all forces are working against you, but you're an expert now!
I'm not sure I could get the bending results from our gas oven, as it has uneven heating all around. But that's definitely better than building a single purpose steam box for the job. I'll file that one into my hack-bank. Thanks!
Tip for re-sawing using the table saw- use a blade with as few teeth as possible. If you can get away with the reduced diameter, an outside blade from a dado set is great. Reduced diameter means mower speed and higher torque, plus there’s usually fewer teeth.
You said you have nothing thick enough to cut the curve in? Yet have wood to make the bending forums? I mean this is great and creative and cool to see but....
Is this... is this really Matthias Wandel making furniture again? I can't believe it is true. Please pinch me!
These are the videos I like the most. Especially with this great outcome. I just can hope the rest of the chair follows soon. Can't wait.
Regards,
Etna.
Me too! Any time I build a table, I watch his videos on simple furniture construction. It's such a great resource.
Making furniture? No, baking actually.
*Pinches with a clamp
@@pandaguan * pinches with 30 clamps
I love seeing Matthias’ Failures, not because I’m a sadist, but because it really shows that you have to pay attention to every detail or something can go wrong, which happens to me all the time.
At the Wandel family:
"Hey honey, what are you baking?"
"Oh just, you know, a chair..."
hmmmmmmmmm chair...yum.
That's going to need extra gravy :o)
That oven is spotless. Thus not a real oven :-)
Christ, the brain on this man. inspiring and daunting at the same time.
You could try adding a small bowl of water to the oven so it's steamy inside. That might help the bending as then the oven doesn't dry out the wood.
The rest of the chairs will be more STRAIGHTforward heh heh heh.
Your dad would be extremely proud of you.
Mmmm, that smells good. What are we having for dinner?
Matt: ....A sit down dinner.
I'll let myself out.
Good pun! 😂🤣😂
So much fiber!
Something to chew on!
That was half-baked...
Pervert.
Watching this make me understand why quality furniture is so expensive. Great work I must say!
Brilliant. Thank you very much. I was considering to bend the backs of my boy's chairs with steam but was reluctant to mess with the water and build some kind of "steam box". Your method seems so much easier to do and the idea with the wedges is great. Makes for a much nicer join and comfortable seat. I'll definitely try that and am hoping to achieve just half as good a fit as yours :D
Everything I ever needed to know I learned from Matthias Wandel. Hero woodworking dude! Cheers, C.
Yeah any time I'm feeling particularly proud of how clever I am, watching this guy can humble me pretty quickly.
He set that oven to about, tree-fiddy...
LOL! I see what you did there
@@DBacaMaker It was about that time that I noticed that Matthias was 80 foot tall and a crustacean from the Mezazoic period...
Need a follow up with Mrs. Wandel's reaction to Matthias using her stove like this. :)
It's a stove in a kitchen in the basement that we never use.
@@matthiaswandel I love that you feel the need to explain that!
Is it the last remaining Coppertone stove in Canada?
nicktecky55 Lol
That's one old oven.
Is it? It looks like a "new" retro style oven to me. I'm probably wrong though hahaha
Yes it takes a very tolerant wife to not insist on a new one.
@@peggyt1243
Tolerant wife?
Maybe more like sensible.
Modern ovens are not as good as the manufacturers advertise.
The electronics in them can go bad very easily, the same with modern day refrigerators.
I listen to the appliance doctor on the radio; he doesn't like the modern stuff all that much for that very reason.
@@scotttovey Apparently it is in a basement kitchen not the main floor kitchen used daily. See Matthias's comment further down.
@@peggyt1243 😎👍
Ah, some woodbending again... that reminds me of your ukulele project.
you can use your bending template to hold your piece in place.
This guy has failed more times than most of us ever even try.
Don't you love figuring out the process somewhere in the middle of doing the last iteration of work? I know I do!
Watch out, Matt Cremona, looks like you've got competition! 😄 Seriously, this is fascinating; I had no idea you could just bake wood into curves like that. Have you tried with different species? Definitely lots of challenges overcome in this one!
Watching my friend Pat bend ukulele sides, it's mostly just a matter of getting the wood hot enough long enough. But I don't know if stuff like spruce would work for this.
Matthias Wandel Just wanted to let you know how much I love your videos. I think I’ve watched all of them about a hundred times. Really helps to pass the time during this crappy situation we are going through. You have given me a lot of ideas that have helped me in my own shop. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy. Please keep the videos coming.
if i remember correctly, evergreen species dont' take bends well
Nice!
Would the oven bending method work with plywood, or would the glue be a problem? (Maybe off-gasing if nothing else, I suppose....)
Could one use the bending form to help fixing the piece for the router?
The result looks good, but it seems like you could have sacrificed one of the bending forms as something to clamp it on while cutting the tenons. May have required a little belt sander adjustment of the form to account for the final sprung-back bend though.
It would have required a longer bending form
Woodbending, the lost bending form avatars couldn't master
Nice to meet you.I am Japanese.
Your technique is great.
I've learned a lot!
Very nice job! But when you reached in and grabbed that splintered wood at 3:39, with the spinning router bit just inches from your fingers, that made me wince.
Yeah, router would have kicked it away anyway, so why bother risking some good fingers? Same with the loose clothing all the time...
In 1990 my daughter got an American Girl doll for Christmas and then wanted the accessories to match, one of which was a bow top trunk that also held a bed and had room for clothes. We could not afford it at over $200 so I built it out of 1/4 inch birch ply. To make the bow top I heated the plywood in the oven and then quickly clamped it to a form. She still has the doll, the trunk, and all of the original clothes.
Wonderful to watch you working with wood ! 👍 👌
nicely done! I like all the mistakes presented, these are some priceless insights.
Wow.. Brilliant 👏
Baking and woodworking... multi-talented!
This should be the pantorouter channel as everything seems to evolve around having one nowadays 😄
Will there be a part two? Would love to see these finished. :)
Always an education watching your vids! Nicely done.
Gotta admin when I saw decorative oak chair backs I immediately recalled your dads unfinished chairs. Nice one!
What happened at 0:38 ? The board was feeding through on the final cut and suddenly the video cut forward a second or two. Was there some kickback or something edited out?
just time edited out to keep the action moving.
@@matthiaswandel I would have rather seen it than have 1-second cut out in the middle of the feed. Seriously, 1 second???
Yup im making a pantorouter next yup! The more, and more I see you use this, the more, and more I really want one.
-Were- What made the clamping forms used to bend the wood incompatible with the pantorouter?
too short
I've always wondered how tight of a bend radius you could get with these wood forming methods and if the spring-back varies between different types of wood
I'd like to see some strength test between wood bent to that shape and pieces cut out from a thicker block. I believe the bent ones would be stronger due to grain continuity, but the stress of bending might affect the result.
If your part demands a lot of strenght, your best approach will be to laminate many thinner plies of curved wood. That prevents a high stress and allows more strenght reserve for your loads.
Nothing to jump test in this episode :(
Three kids is enough.
Have you thought about adding a pan of water to the oven so the wood gets steamed more?
No. I was going well above the boiling point, so the water would be gone anyway.
Would it not tend to steam-bend the form?
Been watching for years. Nice to see even the youube gods themselves are mere humans. Even Matthias makes mistakes and he NEVER makes an attemt to hide silly attempts. it is EASY to learn from MW's mistakes as he focuses pretty much everything on the mistakes and what could go wrong so it does not for you. .
Would really appreciate captions. Thanks Matthias. 🤍
I thought more steam would be necessary for something like this, or is the wood moisture high enough?
It's about raising the temperature of the wood. Steam is just a convenient way to do that in many situations.
@@Heraclitean ... want more steam? Soak the wood for a few hours or overnight. After cooking just shut the oven off and let it cool overnight so it's totally dry..
That oven has an awesome paint scheme.
Hi Matthias, would you have any beginner box projects? thank you!
I just thought of something watching this video again. Maybe next time you can clamp the bent pieces to the bending jig when you want to use the pantorouter. That way you have a more sturdy surface instead of just two slippery contact points.
To prevent movement during routing. The workpiece should be clamp to a hard stop not a sprung stop. Never clamp against a sprung portion.
I believe it would be easier to clamp it with the curved side up while the just glued small wedge is still flat.
Project Idea - a table saw accessory that, when the blade is replaced with a pulley, allows the table saw motor to be used as it is on the table saw for a combination disc and belt sander. I do not have the funds to buy any motors strong enough for this task, I have already tried with what I have and the disc sander keeps slowing down. But, I do have a cheap job site table saw.
Will this method ruin the oven? Asking because I don't want my wife scolding me 😂
I was expecting a cooking show scene...:and here are some seatbacks I made earlier..."
We had a the brown colour stove when I was around 5 (mid 1970's) there was also a green, and then yellow. I remember the colour scheme for yellow was called harvest gold. I think. Thats when everyone would have owned Sears Kenmore products.
Had the yellow one in my house through the 90s even 😂👍🏻
My first house had a yellow one in the kitchen, replaced with a glass top stove around 1999.
@@matthiaswandel same here, when these things came out everyone went and ran 220v in kitchens so they could have a "fancy" new electric stove 😂 I uncapped old gas pipe last year and put a gas range back in 👍🏻
I've been subscribed for a very short time to you and was looking for the channel name by searching for this video's title in my subscription feed. Just FYI, ALL of your videos have disappeared from my feed! I don't know why...
how complex of a curve do you think is possible with just a home kitchen oven?
Nice to see the extra basement kitchen isn't going to waste
Random question, did you end up selling the Amogla camp?
Try steaming the wood in large dia pipes then bending it. boat builders do this.
4:45 - and the piece moved. lol
I think you are a real scientist.
Creative idea 👍
Greetings freinds
Thats an interesting looking oven!
That is really amazing idea
What species of wood is that? It looks like either Oak or Hickory.
Spray water into the oven. Steam bath in the bottom bit like baking bread ?
Excelente saludos desde Panama city..¿que madera utilizo para hacer las curvas? Gracias
THANK YOU!
I'mot going to make a silly smart assed comment stating the obvious concerning the bending method you used. What I appreciate is your sometimes unconventional approach to a procedure. I would have NEVER considered the oven but now there is a new arrow in my quiver for some projects. Thank you again.
Always so much great information and technique
Чудесные изделия!!!))
An ingenious method of routing those tenons. However, perhaps a little over complex? Would it not have been more simple to use a small back saw? Unless of course you are intending to make dozens of those chairs. Not being negative just wondering why you went to all the trouble? Great video.
Using a back saw would have been way more difficult, and I already have the pantorouter machine.
My house is full of Drywall screws as well. Such lovely screw design.. that sharp point... that bugle head...
If Tony Stark got into wood working instead of robotics
3:37 No one wants to hear "Oops" from a doctor or an engineer.
👌👌👌👍🏻
Extreme example of " improvise, adapt n overcome!" You got this!
W O W!!!!!!!!!!!
Awsome skills!
Thanks for sharing!
GWW... Ooouuuttt!!!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I don't have anything that thick. Immediately shows a very thick piece of wood. I love your vids matthias, I've learned a ton over the past few years.
I think he means no nice wood that thick. The one he made the template/form from looked like 2x material
he said "thick wood". Also, glad to hear I was not the alone when the cut immediately goes to a pile of adequately thicc specimens.
Great, bakery Wandel. Tasty wood cookie. I'll try too.
Greetings Thomas
Brilliant idea of using the oven. I would've burned down my house! I hate those days when all forces are working against you, but you're an expert now!
Why didn't you build a Compwood bending machine out of scraps from the bin? dude you are letting your mad skills lapse :p
Take a look at "Thonet" chairs germany
I am super glad nothing failed
Скнажмите пожалуйста что за фрезер на долбежном стаке
All ways very good and different ideals.Great work
I'm just curious, but why don't you put together a steam box for your wood pieces. You'll be able to bend that wood like a noodle.
steam only goes to 100 deg C. I wanted it to be hotter than that.
I can't get over the fact that this north american stove looks kinda like what my grandma had in 1990 in effing Bosnia :D.
Wow, making chairs is not for newbies. This is extremely impressive.
I'm not sure I could get the bending results from our gas oven, as it has uneven heating all around. But that's definitely better than building a single purpose steam box for the job. I'll file that one into my hack-bank. Thanks!
Best of luck and best contents
👏👏👏👏👏👍🇲🇽
Tip for re-sawing using the table saw- use a blade with as few teeth as possible. If you can get away with the reduced diameter, an outside blade from a dado set is great. Reduced diameter means mower speed and higher torque, plus there’s usually fewer teeth.
Wonderful to watch a different take on steam bending
how were the original chair backs made, without the pantarouter?
You said you have nothing thick enough to cut the curve in? Yet have wood to make the bending forums? I mean this is great and creative and cool to see but....
Nothing thick enough in oak.
That tenon jig is mind-blowing
My saw nots power enough.... next episode nuclear powered table saw
I wonder if you could curve wood quicker with cleaning steamer?
Don't have wood that big. Proceeds to pull big wood out. Nice idea though
Nice oven
...so then I made sure the bit was up against the workpiece when I started the router. 😂. Good to see you making furniture again.
I want to do this. My wife thinks I'm half baked. Ha ha.