If you like this video and think I should force myself to play through the rest of the games in the collection make sure to let me know! (very evil and malicious of you)
Yeah, everyone should learn their lessons, but they learn that the hard way, so I going wish that Kingdom Hearts games that should be on TV instead of to go. Replaced with 2B, Terra, Kefka, and Castle Crashers characters instead of legal rights.
No. We don't want to see anymore. Everything that happened with Kingdom Hearts 1 happens with the other games as well. Reviewing the rest would basically be talking about the same thing over and over
@@tinglyjungle They just don't care, which is wild to me, as a decent compilation of KH games even without 3 on Switch would sell like it was the End of the World (heheh)
I would agree! They're TECHNIALLY ps3 titles and most ps3 games are capable of being ported to switch decently! If the drawback is 30fps it wouldn't be a deal breaker because the originals were in 30fps to begin with!
I just bought Crisis Core on my switch to see if it could be a game for a similar video like this one and it runs incredibly well considering what it is. Wild that the PS2 game is too difficult to port lmao
I saw it as them not taking the time to Port the games. They chose the option if a cloud version which would be quicker. Sora had recently released as the last DLC for Smash Ultimate. Seemed to me they rushed out a cloud port to cash in on that hype
It's more like that SE has an obligation for it's shareholder to advanced their Cloud technology. What frachise that SE has that makes tons of money and a perfect place to show SE shareholders that they are commited on the Cloud technology ? Yup putting Cloud version of Kingdom Hearts Frachinse on Switch.
The funny thing is: there wouldn't be a quality drop. RE4 on the switch is awesome. Bioshock Trilogy is great. DMC Trilogy and Shin megami tensei 3 and final Fantasy games are all awesome on the switch. They had no reason to do this to KH. We can get any games i mentioned SEPARATELY and individually. It didn't need to be cloud at all. Whoever thought this was a great idea needs to be kicked in the nuts. It would have been an EASY money maker for On-the-go players. I realize i went on a bit of the rant.
@@WindyREDPandaliterally the only 2 games to need a cloud version are 0.2 and KH3. Every other game is either PS2 game or a handheld which 100% would run fine when we have other PS2 games on the Switch. And I dont wanna hear that "downgrade" shit like what other 3rd party games do for the Switch. They still run like fucking garbage to the point its not even worth making Switch ports
As someone who's only way to experience the series is through these switch "ports" I'm glad this video exists and that I'm not the only one experiencing these issues. Nothing is worse than chugging through a long, hard boss fight. They're at their final health bar and right as you can attack 3-5 seconds of input lag hits as a warning message pops up on screen. I've never wanted to kill a game more than the many, many times this has happened to me and honnestly it makes the idea of going through KH2 FM Critical mode completing Jiminy's Journal a second time feel like literal torture.
the even worst part about it has to be that the switch by default already has absolutely shit wifi connections and playing smash damn near requires that ethernet adapter thing. Now you pair that with already trash cloud servers and man its gonna be bad for some people
which is weird considering the history of repackages lol it seems like only recently they got awkwardly restictive [glares at kh switch pack and kh3 egs]
This feels like Square signed a contract with Nintendo when they got Sora in Smash, to have the games released on Switch, and just put them on Cloud cuz it didn't fit their developers' schedule.
I know that they're the PS3/4 remasters , but it's pretty sad that PS2 games from almost 20 years ago need an internet connection to play.I seems like it should be a pretty straightforward port job
the fact that Square Enix was able to miraculously port Nier Automata (a heavier game than any KH games) to the Switch with the help of Virtuous but cant do the same for all KH games is really a Square Enix moment.
I constantly forget that Kingdom Hearts technically is on the Switch because I've so completely dismissed cloud gaming as a concept. It barely makes sense for a portable machine to have cloud gaming at all, but then you realise that companies don't bother taking into consideration the fact that other countries don't have the infrastructure for it at all. I'm Australian, and our internet speeds are literally worse than third world countries.
I have KH Cloud Version on my Switch, but for me I haven't experienced errors and it hasn't really closed that much. I have an 8mbps internet speed, and the lag is very low, and is very smooth for some reason.
From what I’ve been reading how good your internet is REALLY makes a difference Edit: so you seem to be lucky! Hopefully I’m lucky too, just got the cloud versions 🤞
@@emanthekind2140I thought my internet was being funny, but for some odd reason the connection goes terrible ONLY when my switch is docked. If I play handheld I have zero issues. Strange…
KH on handheld sounds awesome, it’s too bad that cloud gaming isn’t working. Personally I hope game streaming is never the stand and just an option, I like my physical copies. Not having my own physical copy just reminds me how companies are pushing for us to not be able to actually own anything and have everything on the “as a service” model.
I still find it shocking how KH switch had so much potential, but the cloud gaming made it flop. I get that the base games need a lot of storage on PlayStation and PC. But, I’ve seen other games that are just as large like DOOM Eternal, The Witcher 3, Monster Hunter, and a few others that were clearly made for the advanced consoles, but can still play well on the switch. At least 1.5+2.5 could’ve been a base version.
3:18 at Atlantica, I had this problem where it stopped registering my inputs but was still streaming what was going on. It kept saying no internet (even beside the router) and I saw Sora swim in circles until I decided to restart the stream
I actually had this problem quite a bit more than any real disconnects or crashes, Sora would just start running around without any input from my controller, very spooky and 100% a ghost and not my terrible internet connection
@@tinglyjungle I was visiting someone who had a decent internet, but I guess it wasn’t that great. My biggest problem came from my first playthrough when I was fighting dragon maleficent. Lag, lag, lag
I still don’t understand why they thought this was a good idea. Especially since the Xbox, PC, and PS4 versions are all ported normally, rather than put on Cloud.
The fact that BOTW and TOTK are even functional on the Switch proves that some of these games could easily run natively. Even DOOM Eternal, an ultra fast paced shooter, runs natively. Native Switch versions of these games are clearly downgraded, but that's sure as fuck not a surprise. It's still very impressive that Nintendo can work with what they have. Functionality>Form
This is why I bought the PC versions. Not only do they NOT use unreliable cloud technology, but I don't own a PS4, so the Epic Games Store was my only option. But I was SURPRISED by just how smooth the games ran on my PC, which, by today's standards, is REALLY old. Seriously, I played through the entire series, and I only experienced ONE crash, which was in Dream Drop Distance. Other than that, the games ran FLAWLESSLY, save for a few minor frame drops on KH3 (though the Darkubes boss in San Fransokyo did drag my framerate to hell, but thankfully it didn't crash). And I can definitively say that buying the PC versions was one of the best decisions I ever made, because Kingdom Hearts was truly a fantastic experience, and one that I'll remember for the rest of my life. So if you're looking to get into the series and don't own a PS4, get the PC versions on EGS (even if Epic may not be the best company to give your money to). Do NOT, under any circumstances, waste your money on these pathetic excuses for "ports".
Except getting them on PS5 or Series X is probably the best modern way to play since KH3 keeps it at a smooth 60fps instead of last gen where it plays up to 60fps, it does drop in frames during certain parts of the game Edit: also the All in One collection you can get for cheap on console
And the PC ports are even better if you add Topazk's RE:Fined mod, it adds alot of QoL improvements and fixes bugs and best of all it gets rid of the online only restriction.
Something that boggles my mind is that Squenix management to port Neir Automata natively to Switch, a much more recent a graphically intensive game, but couldn't afford the same luxury to Kingdom Hearts? Just... why...
I am glad I was able to emulate 1 and 2. Although the computer used renders and lags in some sections, the game is mostly playable and passable. And even better is it is FREE!! Instead of spending money for the same lags and crashes on Switch. 😂
@tumultuousv Haha, not on this PC. PoS sucks aaaaaasssssssssss....... And THE original Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 are not really available w/o buying them for ridiculous prices online. (Which the makers/creators are not getting a single cent for them prices) Just the 1.5/2.5 versions are what's available nowadays, but I wanted THE originals. Or other I would get all the KH games on a better PC.
From what I understand, the reason why it's a cloud verison is due to the file size of the collection. 1+2 Collection alone is 50gb, more than the Switch has without extra storage. But what they could have done is either just sold them separately or have the menu download one game at a time. I usually try and give companies the benefit of the doubt (becuase the gaming industry is a nightmare), but this just feels lazy. And the we have the rhythm game which is perfectly normal!
@@Robbie_Haruna Hard to believe that the same company put out native ports of Crisis Core, Nier Automata, and Dragon Quest XI. Those were all high quality.
I will die on this hill they’re fucking PS2/PSP/3DS games. There’s no excuse for them not to at least be downloadable from the e shop or even split up 1.5 and 2.5
I played though all of KH1 this way, the input delay and loss of progress really annoyed me, I had lost all my progress twice on the last phase of the last boss
I still don't get why Square made KH cloud games on Switch like, half the games are from the PS2, DDD was already in a Nintendo Console, and if KH3 was a problem, it wouldn't matter some worse graphics. If space was a concern, just divide 1.5 and 2.5 and do the Megaman collection thing of, you bought both, but only one is in the cartridge
I saw the video title, and was like "wait, that type of title is typically only used for bad games or bad ports. Is the switch version really that bad?". And then I saw the advert at the very beginning that said "cloud gaming" and I was like "oh, that explains everything."
If there's enough fan demands, I think Square Enix might consider making a native port for KH 1.5 + 2.5 ReMix. Idk why Square Enix was so lazy making a native port of the first two games,when Nier Automata runs smoothly on the Switch.💀💀💀💀
The fact that Dream Drop Distance, a game originally released for the 3DS couldn't get a native port on the switch... Fucmin baffles me to no end. Plus all of the older KH games before 0.2 and 3 could've been perfectly playable In a native state, really the only ones I'm fine with clouded Is 0.2 and 3. The rest being Clouded Is ridiculous.
Didn’t even see this video til now But in a real note i got this game last year and it was amazing no lags either but the funniest thing is that I made my game on one hit kill because I was kinda scared playing it on normal hit
Incidentally, Tingly, a good way to beat Riku in the race is to not imitate him. Riku is cocky and a show-off because he knows he can get away with doing things you probably can't do as well as he can. But if you just stick to the low ground and run across the beach rather than trying to be fancy, you're pretty much guaranteed to beat him because he wastes too much time showboating.
I gotchu, check out "Dearly Beloved -Swing Version-" by Yoko Shimomura th-cam.com/video/Pl04fZpg2WY/w-d-xo.html it's from Melody of Memories and is also featured in Super Smash Bros Ultimate as a secret track if you have gameplay data on your switch from Melody of Memories! Thanks for watching the vid!
If WB Games could release Batman Arkham Trilogy on Switch, why can't Square Enix do the same to Kingdom Hearts? Konami of all people are doing the same thing bringing Metal Gear to Switch.
Not only that, Squenix themselves ported Nier Automata to Switch, no cloud nonsense involved, and that is a much more recent and graphically intensive game. I don't understand this company sometimes.
I’ve only had 3 Non-skill issues for switch so far. KH1; returning to Tarzan’s world for black ballad (frame drops and game freezing), and when fighting Xemnas I got black screened (could still hear myself moving around tho). KH2; Coliseum Rapid Thruster level, some would become immortal. Currently on BBS but put on hold because it’s draining trying to collect everything.
I don’t know who at square thought this was a good idea. Just a company desperate to squeeze more money out of decades old franchises without doing any actual work to create a functional port. I feel really bad for anyone who spent money and this and we’re duped by nostalgia. We’ll all have to keep dreaming on and hope that portable KH is on the horizon at some point in the future. RIP.
This was the most heartbreaking gaming thing for me I LOVE KH and I wanted it on the go since I was in middle school (specifically 2) then this… there’s absolutely no reason this can’t natively come to switch… I choose to ignore these games… there’s only 1 KH on switch and it’s the rhythm game cloud gaming is the absolute WORST (also I was wanting to get my friends into the series and promised I’d buy them the franchise for each of it came to switch… but this both 1 not actually on switch but 2 it’s not even available in all countries so some couldn’t even play this trash if they wanted to…) sorry my thoughts are all over the place I’m just so pissed about this still… at least Square is giving better support to FF DQ and NieR for switch and I guess I can emulate 2 on my steam deck :/ if they ever fix this wrong I will still be buying at least 4 copies of each game but they have to be NATIVE ports
To be honest if you have great internet it's not that bad Personally while I had occasional lag spikes it was nothing pausing and waiting 5 seconds couldn't fix Also mine has disconnected only once and it was when I went to the bathroom (where the wifi is weak)
@@satanasluciferi7278 I have good internet but 1 if I’m stuck at home I already have other ways to play them I wanted the ability to play on the go like I said I dreamed of it since I was in middle school but 2 I personally also despise cloud gaming because a it craps on the idea of why one would buy a switch in the first place b it needs good internet and conditions on both sides (say there’s a storm where the servers are and they have a power outage you are kinda sol if you wanna play at that moment) and c the big thing is preservation once the servers go down that’s it even digital only games can be backed up and played later with emulation and stuff but if no one has access to the files to back them up that’s it once they go down they’re lost media (much like the satellite BS Zelda games) Ik it’s not as big an issue for KH specifically but for other games it is Sorry for my rant
Thanks for taking the bullet for everyone, rip in pepperoni my guy, here's your honorary clown wig lol Some people who defended this decision really needed to hear this
Now look at you you agree with me on this comment but in another comment disagreeing with us because we said they was lazy idk if you’re a kid or have a mind of one because you’re not making no sense whatsoever.
i've been 1 and 2 on cloud honestly best to get it on pc because the audio delay is horrible, if you have one single hiccup you'll feel delay and audio will desync.
I hate the idea of needing the cloud server, but I played through KH1/2/3 on the switch pretty recently this year, totaling about 120 hours and I didn’t have nearly as many issues as some other may. Never felt input lag at all, slight frame dropping occasionally but nothing I’d notice for hours at a time. Never disconnected from the server either. My biggest complaint is if you go to the home page or need to walk away from the system for even a minute, you’d have to go back to the home page and reconnect.
This was such a killer for me too, I’d get up to go talk to family or hop on the phone with friends and then lose an hour or two of gameplay for being a dumb dumb, truly a skill issue I suppose lmao
I have been playing the cloud versions, but mine wasn't bad as this. Maybe I'm lucky that my internet doesn't disconnect like the person in the video. I still lag here and there, usually reset the game if it is bad lag when I start. I already 100% kh1 final mix, beat re:com (will 100% too), and now on kh2 final mix. I plan to 100% the entire collection on switch. The lag isn't that bad for me. The only thing I don't like is if I'm idling too long, but I understand why that is. I'm having fun with the series... though when lag sometimes happens when I'm really depressed with life that's something else. I don't hate cloud gaming, think it gets a lot of hate. It needs improvements sure. Though once I get a ps5 I plan to rebuild the games mainly because switch version has no achievements but it be nice to not worry about lag even if it is extremely minor for me.
I too almost tried to get it on sale because a friend of mine said it ran great. Skeptical, I still downloaded the demo first. The slight input lag drove me crazy. I just couldn't do it. Glad I didn't blindly trust them tbh.
Surprisingly, my phone's hotspot runs cloud gaming really well if I hook my console up to it, but I've gotta run a VPN through it via jailbreak so I can reach those 50mbps+ speeds
If you like this video and think I should force myself to play through the rest of the games in the collection make sure to let me know! (very evil and malicious of you)
Yeah, everyone should learn their lessons, but they learn that the hard way, so I going wish that Kingdom Hearts games that should be on TV instead of to go. Replaced with 2B, Terra, Kefka, and Castle Crashers characters instead of legal rights.
I wouldn't wish for this on my worse enemy
Kh3 runs better
Please do!
No. We don't want to see anymore. Everything that happened with Kingdom Hearts 1 happens with the other games as well. Reviewing the rest would basically be talking about the same thing over and over
The funny thing is KH1 and 2 would be perfectly playable natively on the switch…
technically all the titles before 0.2 and 3 would work just fine natively
They couldn't even do a native port for the games that released on nintendo consoles, wild stuff
@@tinglyjungle They just don't care, which is wild to me, as a decent compilation of KH games even without 3 on Switch would sell like it was the End of the World (heheh)
All of them but 3 could
I would agree! They're TECHNIALLY ps3 titles and most ps3 games are capable of being ported to switch decently!
If the drawback is 30fps it wouldn't be a deal breaker because the originals were in 30fps to begin with!
playing this on college dorm wifi is enough to make a man regret his entire existence
Yes, I've been through this EXACT scenario.
Oh yeah it does
Too bad Pdanet+ doesn't allow online gameplay. You could use this to browse the eshop. I am not sure about cloud gaming.
Why would you put yourself through that? That sounds awful
@@forTehMemes I made a poor purchasing decision and have since lived with it 😔
There’s absolutely ZERO reason for this to be a cloud version, especially considering that they made a VERY good native port of Crisis Core for Switch
I just bought Crisis Core on my switch to see if it could be a game for a similar video like this one and it runs incredibly well considering what it is. Wild that the PS2 game is too difficult to port lmao
I saw it as them not taking the time to Port the games. They chose the option if a cloud version which would be quicker. Sora had recently released as the last DLC for Smash Ultimate. Seemed to me they rushed out a cloud port to cash in on that hype
the thing is they didnt care about a quality release on switch they cared about launching a cloud service and kh was the victim of this
Square Enix went with a cheaper routine
It's more like that SE has an obligation for it's shareholder to advanced their Cloud technology. What frachise that SE has that makes tons of money and a perfect place to show SE shareholders that they are commited on the Cloud technology ? Yup putting Cloud version of Kingdom Hearts Frachinse on Switch.
It hurts so much seeing this only for cloud. I know 99% of kingdom hearts fans would have taken the quality drop for a downloaded version
Ohh hell yea
The funny thing is: there wouldn't be a quality drop. RE4 on the switch is awesome. Bioshock Trilogy is great. DMC Trilogy and Shin megami tensei 3 and final Fantasy games are all awesome on the switch. They had no reason to do this to KH. We can get any games i mentioned SEPARATELY and individually. It didn't need to be cloud at all. Whoever thought this was a great idea needs to be kicked in the nuts. It would have been an EASY money maker for On-the-go players. I realize i went on a bit of the rant.
@@WindyREDPandaliterally the only 2 games to need a cloud version are 0.2 and KH3. Every other game is either PS2 game or a handheld which 100% would run fine when we have other PS2 games on the Switch. And I dont wanna hear that "downgrade" shit like what other 3rd party games do for the Switch. They still run like fucking garbage to the point its not even worth making Switch ports
@@hwanniggles187 i agree!
@@hwanniggles187I’ve been saying that way before it dropped, pretty dumb move on their part though.
i remember back when this released someone said “this is just a new difficulty because of how bad it is” and i havent stopped thinking about it
Thing is, you just saved me from purchasing this game. Riku 2 was HELL to beat. Thinking about this fight with the lag will be a nightmare.
he would truly become unstoppable
I was just thinking of getting it when I decided to check this review first
Saved my money
@@pikabluowner I recommend Legend of Mana as alternative to KH on Switch. It's action RPG from Square it even has Yoko Shimomura has the composer.
Still the most painful stab in the back as far as cloud releases go. Collections of old games have no excuse.
So, what you're telling us is that all of our worries and concerns about KH cloud version are valid!
You're a champion!!!
The best part about this video is how you actively talk about how the cloud ports run along your walkthrough as if it were a Creepypasta story.
As someone who's only way to experience the series is through these switch "ports" I'm glad this video exists and that I'm not the only one experiencing these issues.
Nothing is worse than chugging through a long, hard boss fight. They're at their final health bar and right as you can attack 3-5 seconds of input lag hits as a warning message pops up on screen. I've never wanted to kill a game more than the many, many times this has happened to me and honnestly it makes the idea of going through KH2 FM Critical mode completing Jiminy's Journal a second time feel like literal torture.
the even worst part about it has to be that the switch by default already has absolutely shit wifi connections and playing smash damn near requires that ethernet adapter thing. Now you pair that with already trash cloud servers and man its gonna be bad for some people
Would be nice if we had a Steam version so we can use the Steam deck natively.
Square tries so hard to prevent people from playing this franchise.
which is weird considering the history of repackages lol it seems like only recently they got awkwardly restictive [glares at kh switch pack and kh3 egs]
There is that handheld Asus Rog Ally where you can play Playstation and Steam I would recommend this to play Kingdom Hearts
but it's on-
no it isn't :)
@@Reynsoon The Storefront who's name must never be mentioned
The answer to it is and will always be one thing: Piracy
This feels like Square signed a contract with Nintendo when they got Sora in Smash, to have the games released on Switch, and just put them on Cloud cuz it didn't fit their developers' schedule.
I know that they're the PS3/4 remasters , but it's pretty sad that PS2 games from almost 20 years ago need an internet connection to play.I seems like it should be a pretty straightforward port job
sounds almost identical to my experience but Clayton went down like a bitch for me because I was over-leveled
The biggest crime is calling these Cloud versions without including a playable Cloud Strife
8 hours/2 days is a good pun I was smirking while hearing that😂 great video man
I was giggling to myself while writing that one into the script! Thanks!
I honestly didn’t think people would notice :0
Went over my head? Bit of a whoosh moment for me. Can u explain?
@@fourteenzero I think it’s a little joke referencing 358/2 Days, a game in the series
@@CrazyMan31000 omg I feel dumb thx, real whoosh moment
It would’ve been so nice to have KH on the go. I will never forgive Square Enix for this
1:39 yup. That is the perfect visual.
The only cloud version of Kindgom Hearts I will ever want to play is a mod that just replaces everyone with Cloud from Final Fantasy 7
The Kingdom Hearts games will always be 1 of my all time favorite game series because it was part of my childhood
The commentary on the lag had me so dead 💀! Really well done video
3:53 I think he's officially called "Ansem Riku".🤔
the fact that Square Enix was able to miraculously port Nier Automata (a heavier game than any KH games) to the Switch with the help of Virtuous but cant do the same for all KH games is really a Square Enix moment.
Seeing the games being cloud only, I was bummed.
I constantly forget that Kingdom Hearts technically is on the Switch because I've so completely dismissed cloud gaming as a concept. It barely makes sense for a portable machine to have cloud gaming at all, but then you realise that companies don't bother taking into consideration the fact that other countries don't have the infrastructure for it at all. I'm Australian, and our internet speeds are literally worse than third world countries.
something about this video is hilarious even when you're not telling a joke, def subscribing
Truly the Hero we needed, but not the one we deserved. No ocean could contain you, not even the depths of *THE CLOUD* . XD
they missed a trick not making cloud payable
I have KH Cloud Version on my Switch, but for me I haven't experienced errors and it hasn't really closed that much. I have an 8mbps internet speed, and the lag is very low, and is very smooth for some reason.
Really?
From what I’ve been reading how good your internet is REALLY makes a difference
Edit: so you seem to be lucky! Hopefully I’m lucky too, just got the cloud versions 🤞
@@emanthekind2140update?
@@emanthekind2140I thought my internet was being funny, but for some odd reason the connection goes terrible ONLY when my switch is docked. If I play handheld I have zero issues. Strange…
I love how most of the footage is mostly just you getting your ass kicked lol
So sad squenix didnt bother making a regular local version
KH on the switch with no need for internet would have been so nice
Thanx for covering this
Oh dear chain of memories is gonna be hell then
you're telling me the switch can run a game as massive as tears of the kingdom but not kingdom hearts.
kingdom hearts if young xehanort used his timestop move every few seconds
>"I love Kingdom Hearts"
>subbed
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
Bro keep backfowarding in the beggining it's funny
KH on handheld sounds awesome, it’s too bad that cloud gaming isn’t working. Personally I hope game streaming is never the stand and just an option, I like my physical copies. Not having my own physical copy just reminds me how companies are pushing for us to not be able to actually own anything and have everything on the “as a service” model.
Its 100% going to be the standard within the next few console generations because the consumer doesnt know better.
@@Exlayer-pk8hy I recommend Legend of Mana as alternative to KH on Switch. It's action RPG from Square it even has Yoko Shimomura has the composer.
So it’s like retro gaming without a memory card and a scratched disk,ahh the future. Lol
Ima be real with you as someone who played kh2 on a ps2 slim back in the day you’re getting better frame rate than I was.
I still find it shocking how KH switch had so much potential, but the cloud gaming made it flop. I get that the base games need a lot of storage on PlayStation and PC. But, I’ve seen other games that are just as large like DOOM Eternal, The Witcher 3, Monster Hunter, and a few others that were clearly made for the advanced consoles, but can still play well on the switch. At least 1.5+2.5 could’ve been a base version.
Kingdom Hearts on Switch has gotten so much better
3:18 at Atlantica, I had this problem where it stopped registering my inputs but was still streaming what was going on. It kept saying no internet (even beside the router) and I saw Sora swim in circles until I decided to restart the stream
I actually had this problem quite a bit more than any real disconnects or crashes, Sora would just start running around without any input from my controller, very spooky and 100% a ghost and not my terrible internet connection
@@tinglyjungle I was visiting someone who had a decent internet, but I guess it wasn’t that great. My biggest problem came from my first playthrough when I was fighting dragon maleficent. Lag, lag, lag
kh1 and 2 could easily play on the switch, as well as every single spin off. not sure why they don't do a proper port
I feel like they were just rushed onto the system to coincide with Sora in Smash but that's between Mr. Square Enix and God now I guess
I know Final Fantasy 7 did great and that's fine, but did they really need to make a Cloud version of Kingdom Hearts?
(I'll see myself out.)
You have no idea how hard it was to make a title for this video without making it sound like a mod where I played through the game as Cloud lmfao
@@tinglyjungle There's an upcoming game called Genokids, the game looks Kingdom Hearts inspired.
I still don’t understand why they thought this was a good idea. Especially since the Xbox, PC, and PS4 versions are all ported normally, rather than put on Cloud.
That's crazy cause batman is on Nintendo switch but it's not cloud version
I’ve heard it’s Square Enix that were adamant about it being on Cloud, something about how so Nintendo could keep paying them
I'm still waiting for this game sales on the switch.
even 3ds has an actual playable kingdom hearts game💀
The fact that BOTW and TOTK are even functional on the Switch proves that some of these games could easily run natively. Even DOOM Eternal, an ultra fast paced shooter, runs natively. Native Switch versions of these games are clearly downgraded, but that's sure as fuck not a surprise. It's still very impressive that Nintendo can work with what they have. Functionality>Form
2:40 bruh now i kinda wanna see someone fight lingering sentiment with the added lag for the fuck of it 😂
This is why I bought the PC versions. Not only do they NOT use unreliable cloud technology, but I don't own a PS4, so the Epic Games Store was my only option. But I was SURPRISED by just how smooth the games ran on my PC, which, by today's standards, is REALLY old. Seriously, I played through the entire series, and I only experienced ONE crash, which was in Dream Drop Distance. Other than that, the games ran FLAWLESSLY, save for a few minor frame drops on KH3 (though the Darkubes boss in San Fransokyo did drag my framerate to hell, but thankfully it didn't crash). And I can definitively say that buying the PC versions was one of the best decisions I ever made, because Kingdom Hearts was truly a fantastic experience, and one that I'll remember for the rest of my life. So if you're looking to get into the series and don't own a PS4, get the PC versions on EGS (even if Epic may not be the best company to give your money to). Do NOT, under any circumstances, waste your money on these pathetic excuses for "ports".
Agreed the ports sucks
Except getting them on PS5 or Series X is probably the best modern way to play since KH3 keeps it at a smooth 60fps instead of last gen where it plays up to 60fps, it does drop in frames during certain parts of the game
Edit: also the All in One collection you can get for cheap on console
It's crazy that they're exclusive to the Epic Games Store, I always forget they're not on Steam...
And the PC ports are even better if you add Topazk's RE:Fined mod, it adds alot of QoL improvements and fixes bugs and best of all it gets rid of the online only restriction.
man that's rought.. all i can say is... PCMR!!!!!!
i love the epic games ports. they work so well :3
switch is more than capable of running at least 1.5+2.5 with 30 fps so WTF, SQUARE?
Something that boggles my mind is that Squenix management to port Neir Automata natively to Switch, a much more recent a graphically intensive game, but couldn't afford the same luxury to Kingdom Hearts? Just... why...
The real critical mode
I am glad I was able to emulate 1 and 2.
Although the computer used renders and lags in some sections, the game is mostly playable and passable.
And even better is it is FREE!!
Instead of spending money for the same lags and crashes on Switch. 😂
If you have a PC to emulate then you have a PC to purchase these games that run well.
@tumultuousv
Haha, not on this PC.
PoS sucks aaaaaasssssssssss.......
And THE original Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 are not really available w/o buying them for ridiculous prices online.
(Which the makers/creators are not getting a single cent for them prices)
Just the 1.5/2.5 versions are what's available nowadays, but I wanted THE originals.
Or other I would get all the KH games on a better PC.
@@tumultuousv The actual pc version they released literaly crashes during cutscenes constantly
From what I understand, the reason why it's a cloud verison is due to the file size of the collection. 1+2 Collection alone is 50gb, more than the Switch has without extra storage. But what they could have done is either just sold them separately or have the menu download one game at a time. I usually try and give companies the benefit of the doubt (becuase the gaming industry is a nightmare), but this just feels lazy. And the we have the rhythm game which is perfectly normal!
Square Enix is too lazy to optimize literally anything I swear to god.
A collection of fucking upscaled PS2 games shouldn't be goddamn 50GB
@@Robbie_Haruna Hard to believe that the same company put out native ports of Crisis Core, Nier Automata, and Dragon Quest XI. Those were all high quality.
Remember ff10 on ps3 is 32gb and ps vita port is 3gb? Just "optimal" and the whole colection is 15gb maximum
I couldn’t even imagine playing KH3 with cloud gaming and it makes me sick thinking about it
I will die on this hill they’re fucking PS2/PSP/3DS games. There’s no excuse for them not to at least be downloadable from the e shop or even split up 1.5 and 2.5
Square enix needs to open his eyes and get rid of cloud version
I played though all of KH1 this way, the input delay and loss of progress really annoyed me, I had lost all my progress twice on the last phase of the last boss
I still don't get why Square made KH cloud games on Switch like, half the games are from the PS2, DDD was already in a Nintendo Console, and if KH3 was a problem, it wouldn't matter some worse graphics. If space was a concern, just divide 1.5 and 2.5 and do the Megaman collection thing of, you bought both, but only one is in the cartridge
You are a champion sir. Thank you for this ❤
I saw the video title, and was like "wait, that type of title is typically only used for bad games or bad ports. Is the switch version really that bad?". And then I saw the advert at the very beginning that said "cloud gaming" and I was like "oh, that explains everything."
If there's enough fan demands, I think Square Enix might consider making a native port for KH 1.5 + 2.5 ReMix. Idk why Square Enix was so lazy making a native port of the first two games,when Nier Automata runs smoothly on the Switch.💀💀💀💀
The fact that Dream Drop Distance, a game originally released for the 3DS couldn't get a native port on the switch... Fucmin baffles me to no end.
Plus all of the older KH games before 0.2 and 3 could've been perfectly playable In a native state, really the only ones I'm fine with clouded Is 0.2 and 3.
The rest being Clouded Is ridiculous.
Didn’t even see this video til now
But in a real note i got this game last year and it was amazing no lags either but the funniest thing is that I made my game on one hit kill because I was kinda scared playing it on normal hit
Kingdom hearts is the last game that should be WI-FI based the horrors of fighting sephiroth with lag 🥶
I was so broken when they said it was cloud only after waiting for years. Almost got it on sale but hearing it run so bad really bums me out.
Incidentally, Tingly, a good way to beat Riku in the race is to not imitate him. Riku is cocky and a show-off because he knows he can get away with doing things you probably can't do as well as he can. But if you just stick to the low ground and run across the beach rather than trying to be fancy, you're pretty much guaranteed to beat him because he wastes too much time showboating.
I know this is an old video, but could anyone link the jazz version of dearly beloved at 1:28 ?
It's so beautiful
I gotchu, check out "Dearly Beloved -Swing Version-" by Yoko Shimomura
th-cam.com/video/Pl04fZpg2WY/w-d-xo.html
it's from Melody of Memories and is also featured in Super Smash Bros Ultimate as a secret track if you have gameplay data on your switch from Melody of Memories!
Thanks for watching the vid!
Where are the downloadable versions at?
It’s don’t exist on switch
@@Nyto242 Awwww... At least the All-In-One package can make up for it.
Your sacrifice of such precious free time will never be forgotten 😭😭😭
Stay safe all and go hug your furbabies 💙🐱💙
Is not even available in Australia
If WB Games could release Batman Arkham Trilogy on Switch, why can't Square Enix do the same to Kingdom Hearts? Konami of all people are doing the same thing bringing Metal Gear to Switch.
Not only that, Squenix themselves ported Nier Automata to Switch, no cloud nonsense involved, and that is a much more recent and graphically intensive game. I don't understand this company sometimes.
For a more premium handheld KH experience, get a Steam Deck or ROG Ally.
I've never had a problem with KH on switch. Ive noticed virtually no lag.. depends on ur internet connection it seems.
Yeah same I like it but it only works when you have good WiFi and even then the hiccups can be annoying.
I’ve only had 3 Non-skill issues for switch so far. KH1; returning to Tarzan’s world for black ballad (frame drops and game freezing), and when fighting Xemnas I got black screened (could still hear myself moving around tho). KH2; Coliseum Rapid Thruster level, some would become immortal. Currently on BBS but put on hold because it’s draining trying to collect everything.
I don’t know who at square thought this was a good idea. Just a company desperate to squeeze more money out of decades old franchises without doing any actual work to create a functional port. I feel really bad for anyone who spent money and this and we’re duped by nostalgia. We’ll all have to keep dreaming on and hope that portable KH is on the horizon at some point in the future. RIP.
This was the most heartbreaking gaming thing for me I LOVE KH and I wanted it on the go since I was in middle school (specifically 2) then this… there’s absolutely no reason this can’t natively come to switch… I choose to ignore these games… there’s only 1 KH on switch and it’s the rhythm game cloud gaming is the absolute WORST (also I was wanting to get my friends into the series and promised I’d buy them the franchise for each of it came to switch… but this both 1 not actually on switch but 2 it’s not even available in all countries so some couldn’t even play this trash if they wanted to…) sorry my thoughts are all over the place I’m just so pissed about this still… at least Square is giving better support to FF DQ and NieR for switch and I guess I can emulate 2 on my steam deck :/ if they ever fix this wrong I will still be buying at least 4 copies of each game but they have to be NATIVE ports
To be honest if you have great internet it's not that bad
Personally while I had occasional lag spikes it was nothing pausing and waiting 5 seconds couldn't fix
Also mine has disconnected only once and it was when I went to the bathroom (where the wifi is weak)
@@satanasluciferi7278 I have good internet but 1 if I’m stuck at home I already have other ways to play them I wanted the ability to play on the go like I said I dreamed of it since I was in middle school but 2 I personally also despise cloud gaming because a it craps on the idea of why one would buy a switch in the first place b it needs good internet and conditions on both sides (say there’s a storm where the servers are and they have a power outage you are kinda sol if you wanna play at that moment) and c the big thing is preservation once the servers go down that’s it even digital only games can be backed up and played later with emulation and stuff but if no one has access to the files to back them up that’s it once they go down they’re lost media (much like the satellite BS Zelda games) Ik it’s not as big an issue for KH specifically but for other games it is
Sorry for my rant
@@RaxonXVI I recommend Legend of Mana as alternative to KH on Switch. It's action RPG from Square it even has Yoko Shimomura has the composer.
@@orangeslash1667 I do have it and it’s an amazing game but it doesn’t scratch that itch for me
@@RaxonXVI Other action RPG's I recommend are Ni no Kuni 1,2 and Cross Code.
Get them on the steam deck. Not sure how to set up KHIII on there though.
Fight sephiroth in this version. I dare you.
... might have to hit a McDonald's and beat Sephiroth using their wifi
Imagine fighting KH3's Super Bosses as well.
@@tinglyjungle too late th-cam.com/video/NGwl144fLl4/w-d-xo.html
MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS PLEASE
Thanks for taking the bullet for everyone, rip in pepperoni my guy, here's your honorary clown wig lol
Some people who defended this decision really needed to hear this
The thumbnail for this video looks like a mobile game ad.
Perfect.
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 can run at 2x resolution on some pretty cheap phones. They were exceedingly lazy with the switch versions.
Now look at you you agree with me on this comment but in another comment disagreeing with us because we said they was lazy idk if you’re a kid or have a mind of one because you’re not making no sense whatsoever.
0:12 Can some people out there come up with more examples of this? I'd really want to know! (my own entry would be the Smash Bros. series)🤔
see now this is just kh1, now kh2 is a totally different story
KH has been ported so many times, you’d think they wouldn’t fail porting KH on switch, but they did….
It's just Square Enix being lazy lmfao
@@michaelrobosa146 I recommend Legend of Mana as alternative to KH on Switch. It's action RPG from Square it even has Yoko Shimomura has the composer.
i've been 1 and 2 on cloud honestly best to get it on pc because the audio delay is horrible, if you have one single hiccup you'll feel delay and audio will desync.
I hate the idea of needing the cloud server, but I played through KH1/2/3 on the switch pretty recently this year, totaling about 120 hours and I didn’t have nearly as many issues as some other may. Never felt input lag at all, slight frame dropping occasionally but nothing I’d notice for hours at a time. Never disconnected from the server either. My biggest complaint is if you go to the home page or need to walk away from the system for even a minute, you’d have to go back to the home page and reconnect.
This was such a killer for me too, I’d get up to go talk to family or hop on the phone with friends and then lose an hour or two of gameplay for being a dumb dumb, truly a skill issue I suppose lmao
@@tinglyjungle Oh my god, all it took was that one time to become an over-saver. I feel ya haha
I have been playing the cloud versions, but mine wasn't bad as this. Maybe I'm lucky that my internet doesn't disconnect like the person in the video. I still lag here and there, usually reset the game if it is bad lag when I start. I already 100% kh1 final mix, beat re:com (will 100% too), and now on kh2 final mix. I plan to 100% the entire collection on switch. The lag isn't that bad for me. The only thing I don't like is if I'm idling too long, but I understand why that is. I'm having fun with the series... though when lag sometimes happens when I'm really depressed with life that's something else.
I don't hate cloud gaming, think it gets a lot of hate. It needs improvements sure. Though once I get a ps5 I plan to rebuild the games mainly because switch version has no achievements but it be nice to not worry about lag even if it is extremely minor for me.
Mine doesn't lag really either.
I too almost tried to get it on sale because a friend of mine said it ran great.
Skeptical, I still downloaded the demo first. The slight input lag drove me crazy. I just couldn't do it. Glad I didn't blindly trust them tbh.
I love it too much but the cloud is where I draw the line your a warrior a keyblade master
Surprisingly, my phone's hotspot runs cloud gaming really well if I hook my console up to it, but I've gotta run a VPN through it via jailbreak so I can reach those 50mbps+ speeds
I was thinking of KH2 little mermaid stage with lag, that be fully a unbeatable level. F for kids who had to deal with that XD
Hmm. A lot of people are saying KH3 wouldn't run natively on Switch but... Nier Automata runs great on Switch.
Ikr 🥹
Great video back in my day……