I had to debate NFTs again...
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It's kind of sad so many people expect every interaction to be entirely transactional. The concept of doing something because it is fun is bewildering to them.
It's also that for crypto/NFT's to work you *need* toxic positivity and a get-rich-quick fantasy. So they sell the idea of making fat stacks of cash by playing games and rewarding you for completing a game. That nobody would care about the tokens and nobody would want to buy one in reality is something easily glossed over by crypto-bros because they can't admit it and keep their toxic positivity going.
Your words description it's too abstract for me 👀ツ
@@Hecarim420 What if you could get an NFT of his comment? Would you understand it then?
Corporations want you to think you that way. Then they can sell you crap easier by making you purchase stuff that is supposed to make you happy... the problem is, it doesn't work, so what you are supposed to do? Buy more!
And 2/3rds of them want collectivism and eliminate private property at the same time.
So the idea is you finish the game, and you get a token to prove you finished the game, but you can SELL it to someone, meaning the token proves nothing?
Exactly. What's even the point? Did you earn the token or did you buy it? It doesn't prove that you beat the game because you coulda just bought it, then again why the hell would you buy something so useless if you weren't stupid? I guess you're stupid
In a nutshell, yes. I, for one, cannot understand why this brilliant idea has not yet caught on.
The funniest thing for me is the fact that many platforms already have archiviments that serve exactly this purpose, but it work better as a proof because you can't just buy it without actually playing the game.
it helps you refund part of the money you spent on the game, how is that bad? lmao
@@user-ve2jh5hj6tbecause no one would be dumb enough to buy it. It's forcing value on an invaluable thing
These NFT people sound sociopathic that don't understand human emotion. Everything needs to have a function or monetary value. What frightens me is that these kinds of people also probably run businesses
oh they do understand that. What they are trying to do is to create a pyramid scheme with *them* on top.
Except that it doesn't feel like they're even getting that right. The "logical" behaviour would be to then only put effort/resources/etc. into things that have resale value, and so an implicit cash price, *to other people*. These folk appear to be starting out by making an utterless pointless ugly thing, and then demanding that other people find value in it on their behalf and buy it. I think maybe they missed a trick not being starving artists.
[Edit : "What frightens me is that these kinds of people also probably run businesses" - Not well, I can assure you. SBF is probably the poster child, and he absolutely is a psychopath, FTX was a fraud from day one, but in the main these will be small, private failures.
I assure you, the world is in the hands of such people. At least for the most part. That's why everything on our planet is so absurdly bad now.
"What frightens me is that these kinds of people also probably run businesses"
They do, didn't you hear about Ubisoft etc trying to put NFT into their games? Which should be enough explanation for why Ubisoft games are the way they are: their leadership doesn't understand games.
I'm pretty sure they'd love to run business, but if they're stupid enough to fall for the NFT scam, then they aren't smart enough to run business.
I have no doubt there are people like them who run business, but those people are the ones who sell the NFT, not the ones who buy them.
Black Mirror Episode idea: Someone admires a friend because they have all these NFTs proving that they did all these cool things like sky diving in New Zealand and partying in the greek islands, only to find out they've never left their home due to working online so much to afford all them and being afraid of the outside world.
And in their last dying tears being sad. Not because they are a fraud, but because buying the prize doesnt mean anything if they never actually got to have fun doing those activities, so they still miss out even in their bad delusions.
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Imagine graduating high school and thinking your diploma has value to other people enough to buy it from you.
I get what you're saying, but this is a bad analogy cause a fraudulent diploma does have value to certain people.
And, sadly, I imagine Trophy/Achievement NFTs would be worth something to some people. Imagine you're an absolute dog shit bad gaming journalist, redundant I know, but you could buy up a bunch of achievement NFTs to make it look like you had some respectable ability, or, even worse, to lend credit to the claim you played/finished a game therefore your review has more merit.
@@vidyastuff3509 fraudulent diplomas have their name on it. This is you selling one with your own name on it.
It does if you went to a trade school. If you went to a regular one, it's useless unless you're going to college. With, for instance, a high school diploma as an car electrician, you can get a job with little effort if you're good and someone's hiring. That's quite a bit of value.
Worse than that, it's your Holiday selfie.
You're trying to sell the visual proof you did a thing.
But actually because of how NFTs really work it's you trying to sell the web address where that selfie is stored.
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The problem is not if someone will buy it, the problem is that everything that you are saying already exist in one way or another that trying to make it an NFT is just stupid or unnecessary.
Want to have a badge that says you were in X, Y, or Z, or pretend that you have a higher skill in the game? Buying boosted accounts in a multiplayer game with ranks (like a competitive shooter) or levels (like an MMO) is already a thing, even if is being handle by people against some developers TOS.
Want to sell a type of equipment that has a percentage to drop when killing a boss? There is usually games that allow people to trade the item to anyone, including people who dont even care to kill the boss. If the item looks or is cool they will buy it. If the only valuable thing from it is "you get it from killing the boss" but is a bad looking item or just shit, people are not going to buy it.
Is a skin that is very good looking? Why would a game developer or publisher give it away as a free market thing? When they can put it to sell as an expensive $20 micro transaction. And they already do.
Want to make a pretencious badge to lure people to buy your product as a way of FOMO? Companies already do this with pre purchase content that includes stuff only people that pre purchase can get. And once again if people want to sell the whole accound that single dumb pre purchase thing adds value to the account. Not the single badge, the whole account. If you can just buy the little thing by itself, then what was the purpose of the pre purchase?
Also to add more. Why does the previous examples make sense but the idea of a tradeable NFT wouldnt work? Because its either forbidden to do those trades, or are as I said before really good, or include the whole account. The easier it is to just buy the thing rather than being earned the less value it gets. If, lets say a type of skin only drops from completing the game that adds value to the item. If you can just buy it from someone else easily the value it has as "you can only get it from killing the boss" doesnt matter anymore, so now the value it has is if it looks good. If it doesnt look good then the value of the whole thing is trash and bad, because nobody is going to think to buy an ugly skin.
Made worse with the example from the video, because its not even a skin, or an ingame item. Its just a badge. A jpeg with no use than for bragging rights. Bragging rights that dont mean anything because, well, anyone can buy it. And if anyone can buy it the veracity of the badge is useless, lowering the value to useless to buy. If the badge for completing the thing is something else, like a WoW mount, or a gun skin in CSGO and you can sell it, you aint selling the braggin rights that you completed the thing, you are selling an actual product.
Thats the criticism, add value to the product beyond just "I did the thing." Because if anyone can buy it, nobody completed it.
NFTs want to pretend to be innovative, when they are wasting their time re inventing the wheel without understanding what a wheelbarrow and its purpose is. If you want to sell NFTs in videogames, the game needs to be really fucking good to begin with in order to entice people to buy and keep the NFT.
Want to see an actual sucessful NFT that you can buy or sell with easy to understand what value a virtual thing has? CSGO skins. The value they have is depending on how rare the skin is, how many people have it, and more importantly if its good looking. You cant sell them for real money? Who says, Steam? External gambling sites, external trade offers, or the whole account being bought, as always.
The irony of it is that the natural result of this kind of behavior is what ends up being the worst outcome for both the normal player and the commodification player. For normal players, the people trying to make money of the game start driving design, and whether or not the game is good or fun ceases to be relevant considerations (also, a lot of play-to-earn folks tend to be rather toxic and gatekeep-y, behavior that also drives away many players). For commodification players, the fact that these games cease prioritizing quality and enjoyment means that the market of people interested in the game, and by extension interested in your resale items, ends up being rather small, and so there's not really many big paydays to be had. Maybe a few people in each group either end up having fun or making a lot of money, but it doesn't work out for most folks, and the only reason so many commodification players advocate for this type of thing is an irrational belief that they'll be one of the lucky few to strike it rich.
If I want to share that I did something in a game I take a screenshot and send it to my friends and get a few E-pats-on-the-back. I don't need an NFT to sell for that.
That's literally an argument against pay to win mechanics too. Buying the accomplishment of doing the thing, without you actually having done the thing.
We’ve already seen how that goes over though, with triple AAA games at least. The grind is extended for those unwilling to pay, and the hundred hour grind supposedly provides a “sense of pride and accomplishment” to players when you unlock something that you should’ve had for 80 hours now at a minimum.
@@SliminBlue80 hours? If it’s more than 10 I’m thinking about checking out and doing something else
Well, their hero Elon Musk literally bought the title of "founder" from a company.
So that makes sense.
@@no_genius It depends on what you’re grinding for, imo. If you’re working towards key components like a character, yeah it shouldn’t be too difficult. If it’s for a secret or something that’s intentionally broken as a joke, I’m willing to work harder because it’s not meant to be something everyone gets that easily. I’m not against a grind, I’m against a grind being artificially extended to encourage paying to bypass a grind.
I think it's an issue that we live in a time where more and more people feel like they have to make the most out of their life, where simply enjoying things becomes feeling wasteful when there there is no external value generated. It's the same feeling when people play games and feel guilty about it because they think they're wasting time. For many, life has become a competition between them and everyone else in life. I don't want to go down the road of "Capitalism is bad" but I feel like it does cause people to be too competitive.
Exactly this. There's a certain pressure on people to make the most of their time with side-hussles, self-optimization and what not. And thus experiencing things also get some external value attributed.
Oh, and capitalism absolutely is bad btw.
I'm absolutely not against capitalism, but I am against greed. This mindset is very extreme and I agree it is very unhealthy.
No, capitalism is inherently bad.
@@sanfransisconCapitalism cant exist without greed
It does because it is a 0 sum game without restraints. Capitalism to function needs to be refined.
Getting more money means others lose more money, leading to hyper competition. That part can't be touched because money breaks. We can set upper limits (No one needs 2x the money average human lifespan on them actively.) Basic safety nets are needed as well that many Capitalistic systems lack.
Even if you wanted the proof you did something in a videogame, we already have a system for it. It's called "achievements"
I think its kinda the opposite. If you can buy the token who would belive you actually completed that game. "Bro, look i finished dark souls!" "Nah man, bet you just bought that award"
Exactly what I was thinking
You get this NFT to prove you beat the game. Then you sell that NFT to someone else would only want to buy because they didn't beat the game and get it themselves, thus removing the claim you beat the boss and giving it to the person who didn't.
It's insane how many NFT pitches completely fall apart as soon as you go one step further.
Similarly to how, broadly, many high level athletes don't care about their trophies after a time. Some never did in the first place outside of the reward on the day for reaching their respective summit.
They only truly value the experience that was their craft, and the journey.
and you can imagine the immense monetary value those trophies could have.
Who the hell wants to pay money for someone else's participation trophy?
Like Josh said, making "completed the game" achievements tradeable or sellable ruins the limited value they already have of bragging rights. Having the achievement wouldn't necessarily mean you did the thing anymore.
What's weirder is that the NFT bro didn't realize the other problem with conjoining these disparate things - the achievement is going to have even its speculative value capped by supply. People can just play the game to get more tokens, if they become worth any reasonable amount of money. Even if you're trying to perpetuate a "bigger fool" scam, the whole thing falls apart way too early.
Imagine, you have to speedrun a game every day to farm a certain token to sell it. Like mining but just more stupid... I doubt someone could create some ecosystem with this scenery
"imagine you beat a game and gain this thing to prove it"
Steam achievements said hello
But for real, who would want to buy a completion nft?
The thing is there already are real word examples. What sort of show would pay you to attend it? Well shows that want to sell you on a time share or some other thing. They'll bribe you with something so you come, but even if you don't buy their stuff is it worth it? Like sure if someone gave me a dollar to watch a movie I wanted to watch already that'd be great but the reason anyone is paid to do something is because they don't want to do it. Any game that is paying is probably not fun or I'm doing Q&A testing
We have enough scams going around without adding NFT's to the pile.
at least this gives us a new example to explain Kant.
"if you got a NFT as proof that you finished a game, and you could sell it, then that NFT would have no use in proving that the owner finished the game. making the entire thing worthless."
under the same logic, you could argue for mail-order diploma, and then be confused why no one wants to hire you even though you have a degree from "lowintrestloanpayteneasypayments-U".
Complete tangent:
Josh, do you believe in The Heart of the Cards? The sweater you have on suggests that you do. 😏
People listening/watching media at 1,5-2 speed was the thing I noticed that I took a dislike to, then it became normal to do really quickly. But then, even my boomer dad puts on the show in the background, then walks away doing other stuff or falls asleep, but then doesn't rewind to where he dozed off. And I told him I thought that was weirs to do, but he said that he enjoyed having the feeling of having watched it, so that he could take part in the water cooler conversation at work since everyone else was watching it. I can understand that and I appreciated his honesty, but I find it sad that there has to be this dishonest component to seeking some social validation.
This does kinda remind me of loot in MMOs. You kill a boss, you gain a cool item, and you can sell it off to people.
The difference is, the item gives stats, which may or may not be useful to you, and you only have a low chance to get it
This for me is why I'm never quite sure about whether or not I like taking photographs of things I do because at the end of the day shouldn't i focus more on the fact I'm there.
Everyone looks for the magic of more money for nothing.
0:29 but that token only really has value for YOU since youre the one who beat the game, its like how an autograph to a specific person is worth less than a general autograph one can be given to anyone while the other is only intended for a specific person lol
Edit: they commodify everything because we live in a world where everything is commodified lmao, dating apps turn love into a commodity, social media apps for friendships, esports for games. these days you are simply not allowed to have hobbies for fun. and i feel like its even worse for people who are financially insecure
"Imagine if you got a little token when you completed a game, that proved you did!"
You mean an achievement?
"No, one you could sell!"
Ah, so NOT one that proves you completed the game.
This little conversation highlight how Social Credit is the same thing. And how insidious it is.
So people want us to buy their own personal achievement badge that's already sitting on their profile? How insane are they?
"that proves that you have beaten that game"
"that you can sell"
literally cant be both
The "external validation" is just achievements. I LOVE 100% my favorite games. If people could just buy achievements without actually achieving it, that removes all its value
sounds like a giant waste of electricity if nothing else
As someone who studies digital media, I have never crossed someone that wanted to make a project that involves nfts and we get pushed pretty hard to jump on new technologies
Additionally if you can sell the 'proof' then its not proof...
It honestly feels like these people use cyberpunk fiction not as a warning and critique of the possible future, but as a guide to their ideal future. It's honestly sad. I don't want to be them, thinking about everything in monetary value, what kind of thinking is that, it's sucking everything enjoyable down to some monetary value that itself is just a made up concept.
"sell my NFTs to whom, ben? fucking aquaman?"
Basically this is account selling. You sell an account for the achievement, which you can then plop the achievement on someone else's account. We already had a name for it, it was RMT.
I'm fairly old, and I work in an office with a lot of early 20 somethings. Most of them can't comprehend doing something without measurable reward.
Play a game? It has to be one with a persistent progression/loot system. Do something outdoors? It has to have exercise metrics and preferably a scoring mechanic. Sitting at home? They feel guilty if not using that time for side projects and self improvement courses.
The commodification of everything is real and it's poisoning society.
For this kind of people, everything (up to, and including, human lives) is just an asset to invest, speculate and profit from... it utterly sickening and genuinely revolting.
But we already got this with platinum trophies and achievements. These NFTs are then just the next platinum trophies and achievements, the only difference is that you can trade with it.
The idea is pretty much: You get a participation trophy for finishing a race, no matter the time.
But why would that trophy be worth anything, unless its a physical trophy that could have e.g. decorative or similar value?
An NFL Champion Ring is worth something, because its associated with a team/player and a very specific event, where only a limited amount of Trophies were created to the winners.
Such a trophy would only be worth something to the person who did it and you could sell it to that person. Thats it.
Look at FF14, where people are ordering artwork of their character with their favorite memories or characters or other players etc.
Imagine in Baldur's Gate 3, when you finished the game and it would create you a generated Artwork based on your playthrough, decisions and stuff that happened and you could order it from Larian for a small amount of money.
Same way people who would play DnD might comission an Artwork of a cool campaign they run as a piece of memory....
But not to someone else, UNLESS it was done publicly like critical role...
I like getting rewards for completing stuff, like achievements. But I'd be hesitant to sell them specifically because I associate my own experiences with it.
After beating Persona 5 Royal on PS4, I unlocked some avatars and themes. Im quite fond of them because it's like continuing to carry a piece of those memories.
The only commodities I want from killing a boss would be a cool new weapon. Or the cool ending cutscene.
I already have an NFT of my accomplishments on Steam and PS: achievements.
They're worth nothing, but they're non-fungible.
The worst part about NFTs and the so-called "play to earn" model is that it's made to appeal to naïve or ignorant people. "Make money just by playing" sounds enticing if you don't know a thing about basic economics. The reality is completely different, that's how you end up with nightmarish dystopian scenarios like Axie Infinity.
The only value NFTs have is that we can make fun of the people supporting it, it's great content.
Everytime I hear NFT bros hype up NFTs in video games, the more it sounds like none of them actually play video games.
Its funny to me. You could collect every movie ticket stub, every receipt, and every trophy from everything you have ever done in your life. Cool. However, in the end it is just a scrapbook of your life.
Maybe someone will find value in it, and companies can make them worth trading like in this case, but does anyone really care about the proof of what they did, or the actual doing of it.
It is one of the reason I never cared for FB or documenting my life online, as I don't find value in it, even aside from making my private life being public. Great that some people do, but it is not for me.
I live in my memories throughout my life, so I don't need them documented or tracked for some kind of vanity, much less like NFTs trying to monetize that vanity.
extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation
I don't need an nft to prove I killed a boss, I have a steam achievement for it. Imagine the embarrassment on someone's face for being called out for owning an nft for killing a boss and not having the achievement for it. Pure devastation
There's a book (and it is a leftie book if that invalidates this comment to some people) called Society of the Spectacle which argues that in a system where money is the primary driving force, everything will become a commodified imitation of itself since that is more "valuable" within that society, and I legitimately think we are getting to that point in a number of different areas of life. This is a perfect example: it's not just enough for some people to enjoy something, they want a token that tells you that them enjoyed something so they can buy it instead of actually enjoying it.
I feel like it's the same way with achievements. Why do we need a little thing to show we have done something in a game ?
It usually brings me out of games and that's why I try to hide them on every platform I play games.
Techbros want to monetize everything, because it's simpler to think of "you can do more things to get money, even your hobbies" than anything else.
Same thing can be said for people recording everything to go online for socials
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2:53 the only reason people want to pay money for NFTs is because they think other people will buy it from them. But that other people will also want to buy it just because they want to sell it to someone else. That is basically a pyramid scheme. If what you're buying has no other value than financial value, there is no point to it having financial value either, unless it's commonly accepted and regulated like money itself is.
So it's an achievement that you can buy to show off that you beat a game, but the only people who would buy it are people who haven't beaten the game
"With NFTs you can carry over items from one game to another! Imagine buying a gun skin in one game and being able to use it in another game!" Meanwhile Fortnite introduces an NFT-free feature letting you buy cars that carry over to Rocket League.
this is why achievements and trophies exist on xbox and playstation and steam services, if you want to show off that you did something, you have the option to do so.
Crypto Bros and rich people try-not-to-commodify-everything challenge (Impossible)
All I hear being described here is Achievements/Trophies, obviously without the NFT part!
Doing the thing is always better than having done the thing without doing the thing.
Does that person realize that most games on Steam, PlayStation, Xbox, etc give you achievements when you best a game or defeat the final boss?
the thing is though, this affect is not solely on nfts - i absolutely finished some achievements in games while hating doing it just to proof i did them. I do not need NFTs to suffer from a game i should enjoy
Getting an NFT for accomplishing something is literally just monetizing achievements into a pay-to-win system.
You mean... like a ticket stub for a concert event? Wasn't that always the small little token people would keep to say "Hey, I went to that Santana concert in the 90s!" Just a small bit of nostalgia. I hate the commodification of nostalgia or non-work time. We already have issues with existing in the basic sense, now we have to sell our souls for the quickest buck.
A techbro really tried to sell the concept of a digital postcard to a British Man 😂.
"Hear ye, Hear ye, Josh has finished a computergame! Buy this notice for 1 Bitcoin through our digital platform!"
NFT:
N - Nice
F - Fuckin’
T - Try
_Puts on the PragerU voice_
I want rewards. I want clout. I want dopamine. I want external motivation.
And if you don't give me all those things now, I will not play videogames
If I had to argue for buying someone else's experience it would be in the context that maybe completing achievements gave these NFTs in replacement to points. Maybe collecting a set of these NFTs could be redeemed for real life rewards (hard to do because some would argue the real life reward would need to match the monetary value of the nfts which would be impossible because market fluctuations) but if an achievement was really hard to complete for you personally and it was the last one you needed to redeem your reward you really wanted, in that sense, I could see buying an NFT.
But I could also just see that even more simply as paying someone to boost your account, requires some trust, but also doesn't require a wallet or nft. haha
"an nft proving i did a thing"
or i could just yano, tell people.
Maybe even show photos, depending on what the thing was!!!
I've known someone who collect his clipped concert tickets, had them in stamp catalogues
If you go to the movies, you still have the ticket digital or paper. They make great mementos but I doubt anyone would pay to see the proof that you watched The Phantom Menace or The Mummy.
2:54 Isn't this the very definition of being cuckholded?
Why would I play a GOOD game when I can just collect funny little pictures whos monetary value will fade away in the next five years anyway? Preposterous!
City of Heroes. I was invited to do and endgame story fight where you figjt alongside Statesman. I was fairly new and was brought in as a sidekick. I had no idea what was going on bit had fun doing it, then ee all took pics with Statesman to commemorate the event. I still have the pic. How would one take that and turn it to nft just boggles my mind.
This is just an achievement system with some kind of arbitrary ability to trade them, which itself undermines what value achievements even have to begin with.
If the proof of completion is something that can be sold to the highest bidder it loses value as proof
I'm sorry but hasn't "proof of finishing a game" been a part of gaming for the better part of 20 years now? Literally everything has achievements/trophies/whatever that you can share on every bit of social media. If you are especially lazy and have more money than sense you can even just buy accounts from people who have completed games so you can act like you got all those achievements. So what is the point of an NFT to say you finished a game? Just another form of achievement that no one will ever buy off of you and if they do it will be for literal pennies, if not fractions of pennies.
If someone want to go down this route, he had better be ready to answer my bombardment of questions regarding the purchased experience, and he wont get room time to whine
So you can beat the game to get a token to prove you played the game, but also sell it for money? So you could just buy said token, meaning that it doesn't actually work as proof of anything? Genius. Just brilliant. We're really living in the future.
We already have a game with NFT and it's quite successful actually, it's called counter strike. The problem with tech bros is that they fundamentally don't understand what gives an item value, for something to have value it needs to have function, skins in CSGO works because they are rare, they look cool, and you can use it in game. And when you're bored there are thousands of others who want to buy it from you and the money you get from Selling the item can be used to buy games in steam / microtransaction on other games through steam.
we already have that, minus the money-connection. achievements have been in games for decades at this point, and some people find great enjoyment in getting "platinum" - ie getting all the achievements a game offers - and showing that off.
these NFT/Tech bros aren't inventing anything new there, just arbitrarily tying monetary value to it.
Same principle as to why volunteering always feels better than a job, even if tasks are pretty much the same.
The token already exist for a lot of games. They are called steam achievements or equivalent to other platform.
This is common knowledge, most people already know this. The people who would argue against this philosophy are an incredibly small minority, likely going through a phase, and probably aren't the brightest.
In fact. Let's streamline this process for a post-scarcity economy.
I posess a hacking program that allows you you to unlock Steam achievements manually (I got it to give myself a bugged achievement that wasn't triggering, don't @ me).
I could literally just monetise this by unlocking achievements for other people for a fee. I don't even need to actually lose the achievements I've unlocked.
How much value does this have? I can sell you a digital trophy to say you did a thing you didn't. I get a dollar, you get falsified playground bragging credentials.
We can optimize the NFT element out entirely, which suggests that it was never an important part of the process to begin with.
So tickets to the second ever Stones concert are NFTs now?
Many if not all collectables are things which someone else has done or accomplished to which we have assigned a value to it and therefore create value off someone else.
For instance, a ticket to the baseball game if babe Ruth. Or a piece of artwork, pottery or furniture. The value is based literally on its rarity though age or technique in make.
That all being said, how this exactly applies to accomplishing a video game is strange.
Maybe if someone visibly beat some sort of impossible game and then has the only copy of that game being beaten saved on the file, may e then it could hold some sort of value?
The social media effect
They want to have the market of selling shares without understanding what s share is economically. If for example you had some kind of share for playing a game that is tied to the company value, that could be interesting. But thats not what they propose because that would be completely different kind of market.
How materialistic these days are. Of course people feel unsatisfied all the time.
In shining force exa if you beat the game and complete the chalenge area at the edge of the world all you get is a stone tablet that bestows the title of EXA on you but it dosent even right that anywhere on your save its just a text box at the end of the world and i feel that is 10 time more sick than this
Did someone actually just re-invent acheivments on atream?
To anyone that wants to understand why there seems to be so many people, especially American people, that are absolutely OBSESSED with making sure that everything, including what is meant to be a pleasurable experience like videogames, is always producing some kind of "value", I recommend watching "Why aren't there any good christian games?" by Moon Channel, where they go in-depth about America's Protestant Ethic.
Basically, the Puritans that founded America believed that their place in Heaven or Hell was already predetermined from the moment they were born, and from the uncertainty created by this belief came the desire for certainty. They believed that those that were successful had been accepted to heaven and thus been blessed, while those that struggled had already been damned to hell. They also believed that asceticism and not using your wealth for personal pleasure were ways to honor god.
The two combined thus led to the constant search of wealth while avoiding any personal pleasure, which now you can see everywhere in America, such as how NFTs are trying to turn the pleasure of gaming into something "productive", while it also explains why so many parents force their children to play sports: it's not a pass time, it's *work*. It's not *supposed to be fun*.
The whole argument can be summed up as trying to sell people your holiday photos.
They will only hold value to you because you have the memories associated with them.
And if anyone can get the NFT from playing the game, then that NFT is inherently worthless because anyone can easily acquire it, so what is the point of someone else buying it?
That's why NFTs are the best of times are stupid, but game tie in NFT are even more worthless.
Why would anyone buy the proof that I "played" the game? What value would owning my proof provide? How is that valuable? What utility does it hold?
NFTs are so clearly pointless that it's becoming a bit like shooting fish in a barrel to point it out. They had a year of buzz until everyone actually understood how useless they are, and now only people with a lot of money already staked are still trying to shill them.
NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAVE A FUCKING MONETARY VALUE
I hate that the name we've given them is "techbros" because they don't actually care about the technology, and are just hyper obsessed with how they can monetize it. unfortunately, "monetization bros" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue...
They see everything as only valuable if they are monitarily valuable, and it goes extremely close to only valuing people if they can produce capital.
It's an extension of the capitalist mindset where things can't just be things, they must be monetised and make all the money.
Imho, one big aspect of the problem is, that mainstream gaming hasn't necessarily provided these experiences in the first place.
With everything becoming more streamlined, you get less and less actually meaningful experiences.
The AAA company that pushed the hardest for NFT's was Ubisoft. THE company that is accused of making the same game twice a year.
I like AC as much as the next guy, but a memorable experience it is not. At least not anymore.
I genuinely think that for some, NFT's were seen as "compensation" for putting up with mainstream gaming.
"Finally a reason to sit through Battle Creed Duty Soccer 2040"
People have been doing things like trading/showing minecraft map save files for years. No need to get the blockchain involved