I love Bicycle Blvds! Unfortunately, cars don't, but they travel on them anyway. [?] So sometimes it can still be dangerous for bikes when cars go the wrong way through roundabouts or think bikes still shouldn't be there. Berkeley is still the best place I've ever lived.
biking, longboarding, walking ect.: clean fast efficant ways of getting around, and anti-car is a good thing, less pollution, less injuries, no dependence on foregin oil, its all good things
I ride on Shattuck a lot. If I'm going from Shattuck and Center to Shattuck and Oregon, it's kind of silly to go two blocks out of my way just for a little more room. Bikes have the right to ride on every street. I encourage you to be patient when driving always, otherwise you put yourself and others in danger.
So, 24 hours later I've thought about it -- rather than silly it seems like it would be considerate to ride the extra block each way to take Milvia instead of Shattuck. You have the right not to, but you can also choose to be patient and protect yourself and others.
Just to let you guys know, that bikes legally HAVE TO stop at a stop sign. I saw a cop gave a bicyclist a ticket. I suggest you stop to avoid a ticket. I'm pretty sure nobody likes paying $200+ for a traffic ticket.
I don't think there's any argument about that. The argument that I got into initially wasn't about sharing the road or encouraging anyone to do anything positive at all. As one who grew up in rural America I love bikes and public transportation.
So how do we get bikes to used the boulevards and cars not to? I have the utmost respect for the BBs. I live near Milvia and am really frustrated that bikes use MLK and Shattuck instead. Maybe if I understood why I would be more patient.
Most of the time true, but there are a growing number of cities allowing cyclists to treat a stop as a yield when no other vehicles are stopped at the intersection.
I'll try. The ones who frighten me most are the riders on MLK between Rose and Downtown -- please note that the word I used is FRIGHTEN. I don't ever want to harm a cyclist, but there is no room for error there.
wish more cities around the globe follows berkeley's example, especially mexican cities and more especifically, guadalajara. because they are now even deeper than the u.s. to the idea of the car's love affair...therefore, they'll be the fatest nation.
Bicycle Blvds are awful. I just moved to Berkeley and was excited about them, until I rode on them. The problem is: all you do is stop at stop signs. I guess they are safe, but incredibly slow (unless you just blow through the intersections, which is kind of dangerous)
A cyclist has unimpeded vision (no car frame creating blind spots) and unimpeded hearing (no loud engine or closed windows) and they are travelling slower and they can stop faster. Al cyclists should substantially slow down at stop signs but coming to a full stop des not significantly increase safety they way it does with cars. I drive and cycle and I feel driving is far more dangerous (when one considers both the risk to oneself and others).
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Thank you. This was very useful information.
It was nice to see my home town on TH-cam :)
Love this - my son rides all the way across town to Berkeley Public School every day -- Bike Blvds make it possible!
I love Bicycle Blvds! Unfortunately, cars don't, but they travel on them anyway. [?] So sometimes it can still be dangerous for bikes when cars go the wrong way through roundabouts or think bikes still shouldn't be there.
Berkeley is still the best place I've ever lived.
biking, longboarding, walking ect.: clean fast efficant ways of getting around, and anti-car is a good thing, less pollution, less injuries, no dependence on foregin oil, its all good things
Cool, I like the idea.
This is great! By the way, isn't this music also the background in the Kerbal Space Program?
I ride on Shattuck a lot. If I'm going from Shattuck and Center to Shattuck and Oregon, it's kind of silly to go two blocks out of my way just for a little more room. Bikes have the right to ride on every street. I encourage you to be patient when driving always, otherwise you put yourself and others in danger.
So, 24 hours later I've thought about it -- rather than silly it seems like it would be considerate to ride the extra block each way to take Milvia instead of Shattuck. You have the right not to, but you can also choose to be patient and protect yourself and others.
nice video
Oh, okay. This was in SF, BTW.
Just to let you guys know, that bikes legally HAVE TO stop at a stop sign. I saw a cop gave a bicyclist a ticket. I suggest you stop to avoid a ticket. I'm pretty sure nobody likes paying $200+ for a traffic ticket.
I don't think there's any argument about that. The argument that I got into initially wasn't about sharing the road or encouraging anyone to do anything positive at all. As one who grew up in rural America I love bikes and public transportation.
So how do we get bikes to used the boulevards and cars not to? I have the utmost respect for the BBs. I live near Milvia and am really frustrated that bikes use MLK and Shattuck instead. Maybe if I understood why I would be more patient.
btw, there are cars there!!
Most of the time true, but there are a growing number of cities allowing cyclists to treat a stop as a yield when no other vehicles are stopped at the intersection.
Go to streetfilms(dot)org for many, many more bike, pedestrian, and transportation videos.
I'll try. The ones who frighten me most are the riders on MLK between Rose and Downtown -- please note that the word I used is FRIGHTEN. I don't ever want to harm a cyclist, but there is no room for error there.
we are pro bike here in the sunny side of the bay! unlike SF....
wish more cities around the globe follows berkeley's example, especially mexican cities and more especifically, guadalajara. because they are now even deeper than the u.s. to the idea of the car's love affair...therefore, they'll be the fatest nation.
Why don't bikes ever stop at stop signs? I Always see them running stop signs. If I were a cop, I would give the bicyclist a ticket.
Bicycle Blvds are awful. I just moved to Berkeley and was excited about them, until I rode on them. The problem is: all you do is stop at stop signs. I guess they are safe, but incredibly slow (unless you just blow through the intersections, which is kind of dangerous)
A cyclist has unimpeded vision (no car frame creating blind spots) and unimpeded hearing (no loud engine or closed windows) and they are travelling slower and they can stop faster. Al cyclists should substantially slow down at stop signs but coming to a full stop des not significantly increase safety they way it does with cars. I drive and cycle and I feel driving is far more dangerous (when one considers both the risk to oneself and others).
HAHA "Traffic circles"... dont you guys call it a roundabout?
Oh, OK! Lol, I thought you were serious! I reported his to TH-cam and hopefully his account will be suspended.