I GAMBLED $600 on this Backhoe, sight UNSEEN?? Was the MF WORTH it?!? ~ Broke Down Backhoe ~ Part 1
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- This old backhoe popped up on the line for sale recently! They were asking $600, and immediately I told them... "I'LL TAKE IT!"
It's now time to go check it out and see what I bought!!
This old backhoe turned out to be a Mid to late 1980's Massey Ferguson 50HX Backhoe Loader with a 4 cylinder Perkins diesel engine. This thing is ROUGH! Let's see what we can do with it!
Do you think my gamble will pay off or did I buy a piece of junk that really SHOULD head off to the scrapyard?
Let's find out!
Please enjoy! I know I did!
If you'd like to watch the entire series about this "Broke Down Backhoe" here's a link to the playlist:
• I GAMBLED $600 on this...
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0:00 - Initial walk around
9:22 - Clearing the away the brush around the machine
9:48 - Trying to air up the tire
11:20 - Hooking up batteries
11:42 - Trying out the electrical system
13:09 - Removing the Starter
13:42 - Freeing up the engine with a bar on the flywheel
17:06 - Powering the starter DIRECTLY
17:55 - Discovering electrical problems
19:31 - Discovering MORE Problems: Hydraulic, Air Fliter, & Mouse Nest in the Engine
24:13 - Hooking up the boat tank for fuel
25:17 - Found a fuel Injection Pump Leak
26:34 - First time firing in over 14+ years
28:57 - Jacking up the tractor with Bottle Jacks and Wood Blocks
31:49 - Replacing the inner tube inside the rear tire
35:28 - Airing up the new tube in the rear tire
37:05 - Fixing the hydraulic return line with a FLEXI-Hose
40:25 - Replacing the leaking throttle & shutoff shaft o-rings in the Injection Pump
43:29 - Trying to start the engine
44:36 - IT"S ALIVE - YEAH BABY!!
45:05 - Trying out buttons and controls
45:53 - Removing and cleaning the fuel tank
48:34 - Adding oil to the engine
49:43 - Starting it RIGHT UP!
50:26 - Throttle and shut off issue
52:20 - Starting it and FINALLY getting it to MOVE!!
55:16 - Getting the front bucket JACKED up
57:11 - Truck Problems!
58:53 - Getting ready to Load the Massey Ferguson 50HX onto the trailer
1:00:18 - Getting the IH Scissor Dump Truck & trailer in place
1:01:04 - Starting it RIGHT up!
1:01:11 - Loading it onto the trailer
1:03:33 - Chaining the backhoe onto the trailer
1:04:24 - Whistling down the road on HOME!!
1:06:31 - Unloading the MF'r at Salvage Workshop!
1:08:18 - Thanks for joining me on this adventure! LOT'S more to come!
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If you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below!
Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
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Can't beat that for $600.00.
Love the Mortske repair shout out. Every time I see a flexyhose now I think of him.
It's a good thing you had the old-timer there to tell you how to do it the right way!
Well another piece of equipment that somebody else couldn't get to run and you come along do your magic and it works. Gotta admire that.
I have come across very very few people with the combination of intellectual skill & super positive drive/can do attitude to match yours young man. Anyone watching your videos realizes you possess far more than a commanding mechanical aptitude. You are able to problem solve with the best of the best. Every time i watch one of your videos - i am inspired. The fact you have Watch Wes Work watching your videos tells it all. He is another genius who can also literally do anything he sets his mind to. I hope you get to read these comments as my love for America and Americans gets me shadow banned and censored most of the time on here.
No Wes or DC video’s this morning…Salvage Workshop to the rescue!
I never would have believed that one man with those tools could have fixed that tire. WOW!!! you Sir have skills, GREAT job.
I'm waiting to see the old girl move some dirt.
Amazing recovery so far.
Soon as you said the motor was a Perkins I thought to myself "well that is probably the least likely part to give trouble".
In my experience they are brilliant engines.
And VERY fuel efficient.
Amen, awesome engines. Cat owns them now
I know that they just sip the fuel sip sip
I love it when someone finds a machine like that and takes the time to restore it . They don't all need to be hauled to the junk yard. Thanks for taking us along, I het the bell ? See Ya Texas
Impressive what a man can accomplish using simple tools, patience and a lot of brain power.
I’m glad the hydraulic pump wasn’t attached. I was worried that you were running the pump dry. It would smoke the pump in minutes.
It Lives! Well done for saving another one! Those old Perkins engines are something else - good old british design from a bygone time when we did great engineering.
I've seen ads in my area for $3000 for a machine in worse shape than that.
Great find and a better job on getting it running.
Flexi hoses!!! Mortske has unfriended you 🤣. Good to see you saving old iron again. Missing old red.
Of all the videos of people working on old equipment, I think I like your the best. That's pretty cool.😊
I love your videos. I'm very sorry that I don't have a good enough command of English to be able to convey to you how much I like your videos. Today I "smelled" the grease from the excavator. Thank you very much for sharing these videos. Greetings from a Spanish mechanic.
Piter - any of us that have "smelled the grease" understand exactly what you meant, friend! Your English is FINE!!! And he does make GREAT videos!
Even the raw SCRAP value of the steel in this Backhoe is worth more than the $600 asking price that you paid. With some ingenuity, TLC and shear WILL you have started to bring her back to life. Congrats. I think, by the sound of the diesel engine, you are going to have a decent unit when you complete the necessary repairs. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
I think I would have offered to get it out of the field for no charge before I offered anything at all though. It's taking $600 in value off the land, easily.
You have GOT to be one of the most positive and hard working persons on TH-cam. I'd spend most of my time editing out bad words before I could upload a video!
I used to operate the largest rubber tire Massey Ferguson made I think it was a Massey 70 or something it's been quite a while now but I can tell you that thing never let me down and it would lift a ton of weight. We did lift stations in South Florida and I can remember pulling big huge concrete structures into their spot with that backhoe it actually did more than it was supposed to do but it did it good. I can say I never had any complaints with that the whole time I operated it for three and a half years good luck my friend.
Have so much respect for your know how and your videos are sooo satisfying to see these old machines resuscitated!
To my understanding coolant hoses will break down when exposed to oil. That hose will work in the short term but you’ll need to replace with a hydraulic hose. And what about Red?
Love the Celebratory Can Throw. That should be your 'Thing'.
Son you are a hard working man. Wishing you all the best.
Nice save! I sure do love to see a forgotten/neglected machine get some attention and another crack at doing what it was built to do. Thanks for filming and sharing it! Cheers.
I love how excited you get when you get the equipment to start!! Too cute!! 👍
Your joy cannot be copied. Greetings from Poland.🙂
Everyone always asks, why do you work so hard to save old junk? Well, the reaction at the 45 minute mark is why. That is an addictive feeling.
I love watching someone besides me wrestle a huge inter tube back into the tire. Good find! Those old Masseys are hard to kill. That hose is good to use, maybe, hard to tell these days depending on where and who made it. Several years ago when you could depend on a USA made product and the company that made it , like Gates hose and belts, I would have definitely said yes that hose would be there for the duration, but not now!l
Any time you replace a tube like you did, always release the air at least once to allow the tube to shift around and avoid any hidden wrinkles that may have occurred while stuffing the tube in. I also like to roll the tire on the ground to help the tube get properly seated.
Great tips! Thank you! I'll give them a shot on the next one!
would put full cab on the backhoe
did u use a grease gun for the joints
You have helped me figure out what is wrong with what i have here in the 3 corners Kentucky/ Tennessee / Missouri. Thank you so much
When sat in the seat facing forwards , the lever to your left by the door is the difflock , these are prone to stick when pulled due to lack of use
Yes, that cable was completely seized up and I had to remove it to be able to get it freed up and working again!
Glad your back.
I'm in the UK. I believe we exclusively have back hoes with vertical stabiliser legs. and yes the hoe can slide right or let and dig from any position. it also makes for the hoe to be held across the back of the machine while traveling on the road. more compact
Yeah, that makes perfect sense!
Cheers from Nyc. We had one here like that. Could dig along walls perfect. Now i have JCB 214 excellent quality.
@@SalvageWorkshop I drove by what appeared to have been one of those vertical stabilizer backhoes sitting near Stuart, VA. Just the backhoe unit - no tractor. Easily visible from road-side and not eaten up with rust at first glance. I'm picking up a LeBlond lathe down there next week and will try to score a photo of it + gps co-ordinates. (PS - Lathe appears to have been a belt drive unit converted to electric with v-belts. One monster machine - cheapest I could find, just wanted to make pins for equipment.)(... zero machining skills but wth!)
Very happy to see another project & looking forward to watching the build.
You are getting an impressive collection of old equipment. Glad you can save these machines!
Looks like a good deal, still parts out there and work-arounds for newer components.
Get the service manual ordered for it for adjustments and wiring.
Run some marvel mystery oil in it to clean things up. If any water in transmission or hydraulics add some industrial gallon size alcohol to adsorb the water and then drain out.
Gotta give you an A++++ for sheer determination changing that tube. That was akin to changing your underwear with your pants on. I thought I did it the hard way.
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Well Done Sir...Well Done Indeed💪
I have one of these machines... it took me 6 months to buy a transmission filter. Rebuild all the cylinders, replace every hose, line bore every pivot pin, make sure the front axle pin is tight (that's what was wrong with mine) and make sure the planetaries don't leak. It'll lift 6000lbs with absolute ease but it can't be used for towing in any way or you'll destroy the transmission. The 248 turbo Perkins is what makes this an HX, mine is an E (a 236 N/A) the loader oil reservoir is a cap on the door side of the loader frame.
That was so great loved it could not have been better loved get it running when it started that was the best sound let's get the rest fixed cleaned little paint to take care of preventing rot better tire on the back great machine.thank you for taking us with you to get yea like to see red working just to see and hear.
Great job love this channel so much . That was a real good deal on that backhoe the motor sounds good to me . Nothing a little tlc can’t fix and your the man to to do it be safe brother man
Love it when a plan comes together-You did good!!
Love that big sky! I remember when young and having no farm experience I ran a diesel Kubota with no gauge dry. I got Diesel but it wouldn't start. Knew nothing of diesel, little of gas engines but looked at things and pondered every bit of it. The Lord was good to me that day, as all actually, but I figured out how to bleed the lines of air by cracking some nuts on lines leading to wherever and she fired up. My boss never found out, I was alone on this. Another time a piece of equipment wouldn't fire, nothing electrical keyed up... Alone again I pulled the switch mechanism unfolded some dog-ears and saw some springs and a couple of bb's loose in there. Figured it out and got it back up and running.
As I watched you I felt like leaning in or simple handing you tools. I felt comfortable with the way you approached it all. My dad was a Lehigh University engineer who taught me nothing - long story but I'm glad to have found a natural knack for figuring stuff out somehow. Today I'm 64 do some consierge landscaping, I've always had a penchant for dirt but started forging a bit, making a few knives and alot if noise but also found I've a knack for clock repair.
'McGiyvering' will get things going when all else fails or is unavailable. Great videos!
You really do inspire me to do more, just wish I was your age again. The mind says yes, the body says no. Keep up the hard work for us old fahrts, give us a chance to live vicariously through you.
You know the person knows what they are doing if it appears easy. He has the head, hands and will for sure. Pleasue to watch him work.
According to the machine's manual, which i found through a google search, there's supposed to be a hydraulic oil cooler in front of the radiator, where that hole is that you were wondering about.
There is a hydraulic oil cooler in front of the radiator as well as an engine oil cooler... those do not use the hole i was wondering about... apparently that hole is for a power steering shaft that is needed for the 2wd models... it's not used on my machine since it's 4wd.
@@SalvageWorkshop Ah. I might've misread what I saw. Or I was looking at the wrong model. Or both.
Seems you're more thoroughly on the case though. :D
Very few hour + videos make me go "This will be fun." Yours always do. Thank you. I can't wait for the next one.
I always enjoy seeing one of these old birds brought back to life.
Another amazing video, I like the way you can work problems out.
Good score! My old Case 580SE is in slightly better condition, not by much, and continues to do a ton of work for me. Looking forward to the repairs.
What a beautiful machine... 😱
Determination Defies Defeat. And you never give up, Great work !
I have to hand it to you bro, I’ve been watching you for quite a while and I’m always impressed. You really are a true inspiration to us people that love restoring and salvaging old equipment. Hats off to you brother, Dave from Rhode Island
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I have been watching your channel for a long time. I try not to miss a single video. Honestly, I'm a big fan of yours. I look forward to the next episodes. But I would very much like to see the continuation of the "Old Red" project. Greetings to your friends, especially Mike and your family! And of course to all your dogs!
Fun to see old stuff come back to life. Thanks for sharing! And pet those Weims for me. 🐺
Fun watching. Learned al lot about backhoes.
Dude... Aside from being a maestro diesel wizard, you're also a one-person championship CrossFit team!
Congrats on the machine, what a deal. Couple tips... that hand pumped fuel lift pump will only pump fuel TO the injection pump, not up to the injectors. Those old Perkins are notoriously difficult bleed air out of after they're run out of fuel. What you do is crack the injector line at a couple injectors, especially #1, and crank it over until the fuel spurting out doesn't have air bubbles in it anymore, then tighten them back up. Saves using starting fluid which is very hard on diesel engines. About the hydraulics, if you would have pulled the loader control into the raise position while jacking on the bucket it should have allowed the cylinders to extend, then put the control back into neutral to "lock" it up. MF Industrial eventually became Fermec, which was then sold to Terex. The legacy of that machine is the modern Terex TLB. On a side note, I think that backhoe would look sharp painted in the MF red and gray colors.....
there are two small bleed screws on the pump itself , air those out , then crack a couple of injectors and spin it over
@@d4c24a You're right.... I forgot about those! Been a few years since I've been around those little Perkins engines.
The whole time I was screaming pull the dang levers back while he was raising the bucket. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
It started and moved! It will have to worked on but that is such a neat big tool to have. Happy for you. God bless.
Great find, tear into it, look forward to seeing the hydro pumps fixed.
Another great project!! Uhhhh....what happened to "Big Red??" LOL!
How about a review of all the projects and where they stand?
I believe your BEST videos are showing how you extract those beasts from their abandoned hospital beds!! Wish that I could give you a LOT more rec's!! THANKS!!
I looks like it would be a fun machine to operate..the controls look to be setup user-friendly ..looking forward to updates on this!
Well done. Great work as usual.
Thanks for sharing.
Thowin' shade on Mortske over the flexi hose! That made me howl with laughter. Nice. Cool tractor!
Felicitaciones por tu arduo trabajo en la restauración 🇵🇪
Nicely done ✅ young man ! Get that operating properly and you have a solid machine to do plenty of work !
Truly an amazing film , thanks , always fascinating to see what needs to be done and discover ! , Can't wait for next film !
BRAVO! After watching you revive "OLD RED" I knew that if the engine rolled 360 and the Injection pump wasn't seized then you would get her to bark! As I mentioned in the "OLD RED" video comments you GOT THE FEVER! LOL! Nice work young man!
As far as I know, almost all Massey backhoes were entirely built in England. That one seems to be pretty modern compared to the junk they made before it. You might as well plan on rebuilding 11 cylinders and replacing about 50 hoses...
Yeah, im pretty sure this machine is a late 80's model, and seems to be a pretty good one! i've already got plans to do allllll the cylinders and many of the lines... once that's done, it should be a pretty good machine!
Wes just to remind you that a lot of your followers are brits - “junk” is in the eye of the beholder - we prefer to call it “get what you pay for”
@@tonywilson6032 -WES is spot on, Junk is an understatement.
As an addendum to my last - Massey was and I believe still is an American company so how can it be junk?
@@tonywilson6032 Massey Ferguson was British and now made in France, not American, although there was a MF factory in the US in Detroit
I hope you'll show us all the possible leak points on that CAV pump which can be serviced with the pump in place. Seeing you redo the throttle & stop shafts lends me hope that one day my backhoe will actually accelerate properly without a pump rebuild.
Great find, and you could find the issue and you fixed it.
Well done! 👍😉
LOL …I just couldn’t stop watching the video….you and mustie ….👍👍👍👍👍
I'm surprised the brakes still worked, great video and lots of fun!
ME TOO!!!
I can't help but think about the folks who sold you this backhoe, watching you basically get it running in what appears to be only a couple attempts. I can just see them saying "Whoa, what?? we sold that backhoe for HOW MUCH??!!!"
The guy is still muttering, “if I only had one more hour to work on it….”
Ferguson was basically a British company , part of the Standard/Triumph group. They manufactured a small tractor based on an American Ford design . The tie up with Massey originally started when Massey bought the rights to make and use the hydraulic three point linkage invented by Harry Ferguson, an Irish man. Most of the much loved and reliable little grey Fergies had a diesel engine and was ultra reliable as long as regularly serviced. It's weak point in my experience was the wet cylinder liners, bad maintenance allowed them to move and so leak. The later MF 35 was a really good machine, thousands of Them still in regular service world wide and much copied by other countries .
Yet another cool episode. Great content, interesting, informative.... love it. Thanks so much for uploading this stuff.
Great stuff, always an interesting watch. In my humble opinion, these types/ages of machine will be worth their weight going forward, zero electronics etc
cheers
Ian
One emp and all of the fancy pc chips are junk; all stop please.
I agree, these old machines are still in use today and will be for the foreseeable future. The newer plastic computerized junk will be left in the field after it blows it's circuit board. The real tractors will still be hard at work..
All you have to do is pull up on your front loader lever and it will let your bucket come up with the jack, then you'll have to chain it up cause it won't stay most likely. 😊😊
Came here to say the same thing !
Love it absolutely love it well done young man good job thanks for sharing looking forward to the next video
Good Work & Find
Fantastic fault finding, and meticulous work. (RE-wire the whole thing, because it looks like someone had arsed about with it. Love your video (I'm a retired mechanic) The whole system needs looking at, consider getting the injectors refurbished. Check all the hydraulic hoses too. 👍👍🇬🇧
Well that was interesting, As an equipment mechanic and equipment tire guy for 30 years I sit here watching you and just shake my head sometimes with your logic, but hey you always seem to be the blind squirrel that finds a nut L.O.L As a die hard JCB owner operator of machines from the best years of them before they went cheap plastic like every other brand. Don't ever call a Massey backhoe a JCB it's about like the saying friends don't let friends get caught driving Mack trucks L.O.L. Your machine has full hydraulic steering, that big hole in the casting and that lug to the side is for the mechanism for power assist steering. where it would have a mechanical linkage from a regular type steering box under the dash down to a ram/control valve and shaft that goes through that hole, and then the linkage out to the wheel hubs on a 2wd axel. It's for the same set up as you'd find on an old MF 165 type farm tractor with power assist steering. Thanks for the video, I hope we get some updates on the Cat soon, Take care.
I’ll have to agree,I find myself shaking my head most of the time when I’m watching these videos. Don’t know how anyone can get so lucky because it’s surely not skill!
Agree. Forest Gumps his way to accomplishment. However much better than all the ones at home playing those children's games on the television.
Great video i look forward to your vids they are always enjoyable and interesting to watch please keep up the nice fantastic work ! keep safe and thank you !
Glad it was a simple fix, to start!
The backhoe with "side shift" is made by JCB. JCB is very much of UK origin. I don't know if any other brands offer anything similar to the JCB in respect to being able to traverse the hoe laterally, but it was a JCB innovation.
At least the hoe swing/pivot function uses traditional hydraulic cylinders instead of the infamous Massey hydraulic rotor motor. (refer to the Watch Wes Work You Tube channel for a couple of episodes on that).
The oil circuit you put the hose on is the supply (suction) line going to the hydraulic pump. The only thing about using a nondescript generic hose is whether it is oil resistant or not. If it begins to swell, or get spongy or gummy, it wasn't oil resistant.
The side shift is whats known as the European style, versus the North American known as the center mount . Pretty well all the backhoes sold by JCB Case, Cat, Ford NH ,volvo and what ever companies making the Massey now have a side shift machine for the U.K/ European market, the center mount is rare over there ,the market is totally opposite. I have a side shift JCB here in Canada and there are several more around this area to, There was a guy imported several Case S,S' as well but I don't see them around. They have advantages for working in tighter areas than a center mount. If you'd ever used one for some jobs you'd never go back to a center mount. I was born and raisedin the U.K with side shift and got lucky finding one here for sale. I didn't even want a center mount My friend here from the U.K has an older CM MF than this one, He hates it is all I can say that he's said is polite about it LO.L.
Another outstanding video showing a huge amount of work and not a small amount of talent and expertise with these old machines. Of course I'd love to see the continued saga of Big Red, but this is a really impressive recovery operation. Great video! 👍
I love to see these old machines rescued from the fields!
Sill satisfying watching you bring it back to life and use.
perkins are good engines
My experience with perkins engines (mostly 1004-4’s in my case) is that they can take a lot of abuse, but are seriously let down by their pumps. Seals give way on the high pressure fuelpump and voila, oil level magicly rises in the sump. Bleeding them is a fun affair aswell.. i put a generic automotive 12v lift pump on my excavator and removed the mechanical lift pump alltogether as crappy membranes are also a source of oil sorcery. Then i found out my newly rebuilt lucas cav did not like beeing overpressurized on the feed side leading to yet again, oil sorcery. I found that the lucas has enough suction in it self to get diesel and in your case gravity will help too if above thing apply to your engine
The words Lucas pump says it all... Lucas parts-->nightmare material. I`m fighting my way through an abandoned 60s Jaguar restauration project, car has all Lucas electronics so its fighting me every step of the way..
i have one in a MF30b that makes its own oil. sorcery indeed. gravity feed even. once i get around to fix a buncha stuff it'll get dealt with ...maybe
@@marks8068 Using the word 'electronics' in the same sentence as 'Lucas' is an oxymoron of the highest order. Source: 1960's Norton 650. (You are a brave man to rely on OEM / Lucas...)
@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin Thanks :) Ive been working on that car for most of a year now, it got to me as a rolling bare repainted shell, everything else in boxes, nothing labeled, and its been in pieces since about when I was born (1980) so all the technology is way older than Ive ever worked on.. but the owner happily pays every monthly bill I give him, that helps with motivation!
@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin Lucas, Prince of Darkeness!!
Well done and thanks ... you gave me some ideas on how to get my old diesel running again ... cheers 👍👍👍
Very enjoyable to watch. Good Job !!!! And, I learned a few things about the Fuel System. Thanks :)
What a runner! It looked like front axle wasn’t doing any driving when the rears slipped when loading? Is there a 4x4/2x4 lever somewhere? I love watching your stuff! Can’t wait to see it being used same with Red!
The front was skidding around on the bucket in the front, and because of the fact that I had NO hydraulics as well as the uneven ground i was on, it wasn't letting the front axle steer very well! There is a button on the dash that engages the 4wd... I figured that out WELL after I filmed this video! Thanks for watching and commenting, I truly appreciate it!
Transmission on them is pretty bullet proof , designed for on the move direction changes , i put some serious hours on 86 and 88 year MF50,s
The good old plastic radiator blew up. Nice!
bravo!! another historic machine lives again, good job!
Another great video, thoroughly enjoyed it 👍 Just a thought, when you remove the pump and driveshaft, replace the fan/alternator belt at the same time, saves having to remove everything again should it break. Looking forward to the next video 👍
Same on my old 455c Ford/New Holland... if the v-belt breaks you have to jump through hoops to change it
Awesome stuff, buuuuuuuuuuut.... old red??? Will we ever get an episode on it again or no more?? Love the videos and the content but you got me adicted to old red and i need my fix man!! Hahaha
Yes Old Red will make a come back at some point soon! Until then, i appreciate the support with all the other projects!!
I think next summer we should do a one week summer camp, and help
@@SalvageWorkshop FINALLY an answer. I have been asking the last 5 videos from you 🤦🏼♂️
Yes...you left us hanging with ole red. More!!
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That was awesome. Great job my friend. I love seeing them old machines come back to life.
Loved vidio like to see old machines come back to life