I am 74 years old, born and raised a witness, convinced that I would not grow old and die, that I and my family would see paradise and dead loved ones restored to this earth. BUT, I have lost both my parents and my brother to death. My aging body is telling me that I can look forward to the same. I left the organization in 2016 due to the the extreme policies for shunning and what I knew about the problem of child abuse within the organization. One thing I have NEVER been able to accept is the belief that out of 7 and a quarter BILLION people, only 8 million Jehovahs Witnesses would survive Armageddon. I don’t believe that the God of love and mercy would destroy people who have never known Jehovah, who live in extreme poverty, deprivation, physical, mental and emotional pain or people who do believe in God and live their lives with honesty, integrity, love and compassion would die because they weren’t Jehovahs Witnesses. None of this destruction at Armageddon rhetoric makes the least bit of sense to me.
My mom is 78 and a faithful Witness and she doesn't believe that terrible doctrine. She firmly believes JEHOVAH will make everything right for everybody. I've been disfellowshipped for over 25 years and she has never shunned me, in fact she's saved my life many many times. Recently she's even mentioned the changes to me when we're not supposed to have "spiritual association." What a very strange world JW is.
Not only it is wrong not to apologize, it is sinful for going beyong what is written, for taking away from the scriptures or adding what's not there. And yet, they want us to report ourselves to the elders only to humiliate us in front of the entire congregation. When they don't see anything wrong with deceiving people and not even bother to apologize.
Your right yet somehow they have no problem with the additions and extractions So what are we to think of such things? For me its scary to know there are people out there who are ok with such things.
It’s the Good News Association incorporated as a nonprofit in Delaware. The New York one has no connection to me. If you are going to engage in lies and slander, you need to get your facts right otherwise you’ll be found out before you get off the ground. Just a little piece of friendly advice.
Today's "governing Body" would all be Disfellowshipped for apostasy by the 1970's GB, and Vice Versa! Laughable if it wasn't such crazy demon inspired "New Light". "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Cor:15 "It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions. "
this church has jumped the shark as they say. I stick to the bible, and I don't worry about trying to figure out signs and prophecies. I only concern myself with how I live and treat others around me where I dont bring reproach to God's name. Bible says neither fornicators nor adulterers....etc. so my goal is to make sure i am not doing those things that are on the list. I believe in Jesus and our heavenly father, and the only religious book I need is Gods word the Bible. No other man made doctrine or book is required. God doesnt make mistakes but man does.
Wow 😮 Yes, I’m ashamed to say, I attempted to take my life with the hope God would have mercy on me and I could be saved. I knew I couldn’t do it on my own. I felt this way, i might have a chance. 🤦♀️ How repugnant this thinking is. Jesus is the way, as I can’t do it on my own. 🙏🏻
Don't let these demonic, evil people make you feel like giving up on life. It's the neglect and abandonment that makes you feel like ending your life because you have been left stranded with no support system from family and friends. Don't let them win, don't let them feel smug that they have succeeded in breaking someone to the point of sacrificing themselves to their evil god, Jehovah. The true God loves you beyond measure. We are all children of God, here to learn and heal ourselves and the world from the trauma false religions have caused. Love is the most powerful energy, love yourself and develop self worth and know you are loved by your spirit team and ancestors. You will only have to come back and do it again if we end our journey prematurely without learning what we need to to grow and evolve into higher spiritual beings of light. You are loved and you are valuable to the world and God. Keep going it will all make sense, try not to dwell in lower vibrational emotions. Let go of anger, resentment, pain and frustration that keeps us in victim mentality. Enjoy the beautiful life God has provided for us now, be grateful for everything, stay in the moment, the present is where God can be found. Move on and move forward into a more healthier, loving future. Good luck, hope this helps. ❤
Thank you brother Eric. Great encouragement for all of us that have left false religion, including the witnesses. Please continue and do not let up. Many will wake up, all to the glory of God. Many blessings from The Father and Son. Ismael, Kingdom Christian from sunny ☀️ Puerto Rico.
He was becoming tedious, so I had to remove him. I agree. If he has proof, then show it. I think he googled "Good News corporation" and didn't realize that the nonprofit we set up was in Delaware and the NY one belongs to another group, but the whole idiocy that I'm on the Watchtower payroll chairing a focus group is just too bizarre. Mind you, I could use the money. 🤣
"I had to remove him." Eric I didn't want to announce it here, But I just disfellowshipped the entire governing body for their apostasy...and their skinny Jeans. They are all very uncormfortable sitting in the back corner of the hall with their pants on. @@BeroeanPickets
Very good video Eric. What more can be said people have to wake up themselves. Ultimately we are the only one that can make this decision. Such a wicked group of men misleading others. Their judgment will be their own making.
Je m'excuse que j'écris en français 🇨🇵 Ils vont bientôt faire une nouvelle vidéo comme pour l'année 1975 ! Ils vont rejetés encore et encore la responsabilité sur leurs ouailles 😮 Oui ce mouvement sectaire est une supercherie ils peuvent mentir aux hommes mais pas à Dieu 😬 Ils vont recevoir bientôt j'espère leurs salaires...
If you say that something was from God and then change your mind and say the opposite...that is the description scripture gives for a false prophet in Duet 18: 22 is it not ?! These false prophets of watchtower never learn.
The nerve of him and those people laughing. I was born in this cult in 1960 and spent all the years to 1975 and longer. Wishing my unbelieving father would die before the great tribulation, so he could survive later on and get resurrected. What exactly about making a little child wish her father would die very soon in order to save him is funny. Their evil snickers during this talk are abominable!
@@BeroeanPickets Me too. As children, I used to hope Paul Mc Cartney and Steve Perry, two huge musical influences on me, would die in time.. Sounds stupid now, but it shows, these doctrines MATTER, and his stupid comment" We know what you been saying"? Yeah, I wonder why we said that you moron, because this org taught us to.. so nauseating. Even when caught in stupid false teachings, they mock and will NOT apologize, incredible. Its the same crap as when they said those focusing on stay alive til 75 were" over zealous" and " some brothers mistook, bla bla bla" It is as false of a cult as can be Thank you Jesus for pulling me out of this garbage.
Yes it woke me up! I was convinced all my former friends were going to die 2nd death! I had to do everything in my power to teach them the TRUTH! I actually think I had a breakdown I took the must be in the Ark teaching so seriously….
We were in a congregation that had an elderly sister who was so confused with what to believe and this was made worse whenever she asked an elder for clarification she was told "do your research". Sadly she has passed. No love shown here.
Damn, that last point of yours regarding the real reason people can change at the last minute was the kicker. I never saw it coming. You are SO right. God bless your sterling insights.
Thank you so much for your explanations. Also noted GOG OF MAGOG end off the thousand years. From Australia left in 2020age 80 years old. Was born in still have my faith. Many blessings. Loved the beautiful interviews from Europe.
Aren’t they disgusting. Their attitudes shine thru , like how they all laugh when he says they are all thinking the same thing about late comers .. isn’t that what the parable of the ones that are paid the same from the master even if they come at the end of the day?
I used to go to the meetings as a kid sometimes. When I got to college I had stopped attending. In my mid-30s I started attending again, and came real close to being baptized but didn't because of external reasons. One day I was on TH-cam and came across a video about Jehovah's Witnesses. I clicked on it, and afterward my life was forever changed. I'm so thankful for channels like this that help people to discover the truth about this cult.
She’s probably so afraid and had lost everyone and everything dear and familiar to her. There’s only fear and love. I guess fear got the better of her. I’m so sorry. I tried once to get reinstated. The elders made me detail everything personal in a long long letter of how the world corrupted me. Then I was told I’d be watched carefully at each meeting to see if I was truly humbled and of course the shunning would continue til they decided. It broke my heart all over again. So I ran and never again tried to get back. It was humiliating and to sit at another Memorial and have to bypass the bread and wine (only one old lady took it), made me feel the familiar loneliness in my heart for Jesus. And in reality, I only wanted to go back to be rejoined to family I had lost in the disfellowshipping and shunning. No, I couldn’t do that again. When I really thought about it: I did not leave them. They left me. ❤
You have a great explanation of the bizarre change in belief related to the new light of being saved at the very end of the very end of the conclusion of the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. Taking this to its logical conclusion, this negates the need to shun family members.
You make such sense! Wow I wish I had you around in the 70’s when I got disfellowshipped for asking questions! And those illustrations in the magazines! Why would soldiers on the ground be shooting at these “visions”? A real person seeing something like that would be...well, never mind.
The governing body should be imprisoned. For life. They are blood guilty. They are so arrogant. Wanted it both ways. "We're not inspired. We're led by the Holy Spirit" WTF.
REALLY GOOD logic, scripture quotes and perfect emphasis of key words in your presentation. No, I'm not pretending to be the Ministry School Servant critiquing your talk. It was just plain good. 🙂 TY.
dogmatic seems to be the new dog whistle. the constant changes via new light makes our creator seem indecisive. being ready to obey any instructions we may receive whether sound or not from someone who is neither inspired nor infallible and is unable to apologize gives me flashbacks to Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite.
You do realize that there is a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York and a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, don't you? These are state corporations. I don't know who owns the Good News Assocation Inc. of New York, but it isn't I. But I'm curious about this Watch Tower focus group on the WT payroll that I'm supposedly in charge of. Where did you come up with that little gem? I'd love to know. Please tell me that you didn't make it up out of thin air. That would be no fun.
Sir, thank you for your program. I truly appreciate your wisdom. In my opinion, we ALL face a great tribulation in our dying hours and we all face rapture and peace. God did not make us to kill us and to believe that, in my opinion, grieves the Holy Spirit. I used to be so timid, so afraid as a JW. Yet since the 70’s, I have educated myself, have gone through all the seasons of life as EVERYONE DOES AND WILL. There are Seasons and truly, a Time to every Purpose under Heaven! Yes, the Governing Body carefully orchestrates its own disasters. Have you ever noticed how each man in the Governing Body has a personality and facial expressions (or lack of) to match the tones of topics? For example, Geoffrey comes across big and jolly like a fatherly Santa figure to appeal to audiences who need that. The grandfatherly type who can be stern but loving or oh-so-silly is Lett with his dementia look and “Bahhhh!”, as though to entertain the children. Winder is nerdy and has the thick eyebrows and glasses and higher-pitched voice for those who are more tech-speak (so to speak)...these men must also love sitting or standing before the cameras and audiences. Now, I would be ashamed to be in the WT. As a young person, I was just scared as there was some “Wizard of Org” behind some curtain somewhere but we knew not whom or where. Thank you.
@@WatchMeTower i don't know what you are referring too but i will watch your video and tske a look. Baring in mind i have noticed a lot of exjw content seems to be smashing fiwn and bad mouthing other exjw channels. I understand that people feel this information needs to be exposed but i find it very sad that the watchtower mentality of tearing each other down is still rife amongst the community members where in fact we need to be building up one another not twaring each other down. That being said as of now i have not seen your video nor am i aware of what your referring to so please accept my reply to you as just that...currently uninformed.
@@WatchMeTower im 12 minutes into your video. Im sorry i can't see what it is you want us to undersrand. Sorry. I don't agree with everything any channel says and i always do my own research. If you want people like me to understand the point your making...maybe try explaining what it is you want us to know.
@@WatchMeTowerYou are a liar or you don’t know what you’re talking about. And anyone that joins the Beroean Picket’s Zoom bible study knows Eric is not a tyrant. He’s incredibly humble.
So many people have been disfellowshipped including yourself because of not agreeing with everything that the governing body has said. And they are saying we shouldn't be dogmatic in our beliefs. But they still continue to disfellowship people who disagree with the things that they have said. Especially this one I have had many feelings about things that they have said that I just didn't think could be true especially the fact that Jesus started raining in 1919 that's absolutely fallacy but if I would have said that to someone in organization I would have been disfellowship. I am no longer a practicing JW I'm not disfellowship or disassociated I'm just I guess what you would call an in active at this point but I just keep seeing them changing so many things that your head spins but when a nobody makes a statement and then a couple years later it's found out that the governing body actually believes the same thing and has changed that belief what are they going to do with the people they've disfellowshipped (destroyed) in the past?
Its all about human psychology. The greater number wholly believe the claim of the very smaller few who lead that they are the chosen few and whatever comes forth from their mouths is truth and can only be truth and past "truths" which are now "current falsehoods" are not to be mentioned. The truth is what we say it is and when we say it is.The power of disfellowshipment and shunning are the tools to keep the greater number "happy and united" (applause please) and discourage the leaving of the group or speaking negatively of the group. Can I suggest ( to all) a read of George Orwells "1984" to gain a small insight in how this group think functions. Its uncannily accurate.
I have learned so much from what WT calls ppl that have fallen away as "apostates " from your channel, JT and lady Cee, Research Rose just to name a few and not to discount others seems to me that all of you are more knowledgeable and really make all of us critically think. I so much appreciate all of your research and knowledge
There is another option. Yes, we shall not all sleep in death. But if we die and are resurrected in a twinkling of an eye. Can it be said that we actually "slept"? The first resurrection begins, and all those who die in christ are resurrected to meet them in the air in a twinkle.
Absent from the body, present with the Lord. Also Scripture says: Man has not seen or ear heard or has it entered into the mind of man the beauty and the wonder that awaits those who love Christ Jesus.
Dear Eric, I am certain from my own experience that the vast majority of Jw's do not understand these points in the slightest. Marilyn and are are so grateful for your clarification on this. Each time I raised this point within the congregation with the body of elders, I met with the following explanation. "Jesus has not come a second time, we are still waiting for that. But when we speak of the 1914 era, we do not mean his second coming, but his presence??? Jesus and Jehovah turned their attention on the organisation about 1914, when we were found ready upon his inspection. That was when we become Jehovah's earthly representatives"!!!!. Typically, I accepted this, but pondered on it often, until we left a couple of years ago. Since then, thanks to your videos, your writing, book included, and the meetings of the Beroean Pickets we attend, we have learned so much in that little time. We can only offer you our heartfelt thanks and love to all our dear brothers and sisters, the children of God.
Hi Derek and Marilyn. It is so good to have you with us each week as we study the Bible together. I learn so much from the comments that all share with each other at the online meetings. I concur with you that Jesus cannot be present unless he has come. Jesus left in 33 C.E. and then he was present in 1914, but he didn't come in 1914, but will come in the future??? How does that make any sense? They love to play with words, redefining them to suit their purposes and help them save failed prophetic interpretations. How often have they redefined the meaning of "generation" until now we have this abomination called the "overlapping generation". What a joy it is not to have to make scripture fit the doctrines of men, but instead to allow God's word to speak for itself.
Why would the armies of the world need tank columns and attack helicopters to arrest ''gods people'' ? unarmed agents would suffice? but that wouldn't be cinematic would it?
the basement video was as intimidating as possible just short of brandishing weapons. i thought it odd all those guys suited up and they forgot their firearms.
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If Christ came in 1914 what is their evidence of that? Sad that JW never seek that information by studying or doing their own research. l pray that those who are still in there wake up to this and see what this organisation really is❤🙏
The beards and pants took focus away from this change in doctrine. In my opinion deliberately. This woke me up! I was always taught unequivocally ppl had to be “ in the ARK” or the organization. I think I had a breakdown looking back bc it now became my responsibility to reach everyone I loved or they would die 2nd death! I studied and studied thinking the knock at the door might be all they get, I took it very seriously ‼️ Now they admit they don’t know who will be saved and we don’t need to apologize for “ not getting it quite right” they wheeled Jeffery Winder out to make that statement ( another deliberate decision) give that to the new guy deflect the blowback…. They also said they are not infallible nor inspired …. I listened to that talk 3xs realized then I don’t need YOU I can study myself. I’m still angers how most seemed to miss the significance of this BS and they got away with even more deception! My husband came out with me but lost our daughter….. she doesn’t understand why this is such a big deal…. We r back to our original HOPE IN CHRIST. Thankful to have our eyes opened finally Thank u for your ministry 💜💙❤️
I found it particularly interesting that in that chart Geoffrey Jackson showed, the "fall" of Babylon the Great is at the start of the future GT, yet Geoffrey refers to it as the "destruction". Is the GB finally saying the two are the same? That means they will have to abandon their teaching that Babylon the Great, including Christendom, was judged and "fell" in 1918. They will have to stop teaching that the harvest of the wheat and weeds bagan at that time (Actually they say that began in 1914). If they can no longer teach that Christendom was "rejected" back then, then they can no longer preach that they were favoured and then selected as the FDS. They have knocked over a domino, the rest better dam well fall over! Lol
What you're expressing about their mixed up doctrines is what I've found lately. I've been out for awhile but the Holy Spirit was tugging at me so I dived into their beliefs again with what I know now and reevaluated their timelines just like what you're doing. I now think WT is leading people down a darker path, not sure if they actually know it as an organization that they are but its not a Holy Spirit by any means thats leading them. Their prophecy on the Kings of the East with regards to the Euphrates has failed as of recent. If they believe all false religion will be destroyed... and suppose Islams Mahdi comes to power, someone who fits the biblical Anti-Christ to a T, it seems they could very well be liable to accept him since the Mahdi will make it his mission to persecute all *false religion* which will be the Jews and Christians who are regarded as dogs and pigs. Revelation speaks of the holy ones being beheaded and... Islam is notorious for beheading. Theres many many many glaring similarities that I can no longer brush off. I was looking into Islam a year ago before all this happened in Israel and I'd invite anyone to at least do the research. Either way, even WT's modern day theological timelines now seem to be everchanging. But honestly, thats what happens when you have no Holy Spirit. Their false prophets can't even keep up at this point anymore. The tides are turning though... and I genuinely believe Yahweh is going to hold those leading accountable for how they have profaned his name.
Why do they, The GB, keep showing man made armies, tanks and rifles when it clearly says it will be Gods anger that will destroy the wicked with fire from heaven at Armageddon?
Dear Bro Jackson. In the bible, anyone that is designated or authorized by Jehovah as his prophet or prophet-like spokesman and who make statements pertaining to scripture particularly in relation to prophecy, they are always 100% correct and they never made alterations over time delivering "new truths" to replace "old truths" - making the old truths false-- never again to be mentioned on pain of disfellowshipment - but God moved them to speak truth and truth it always was. Why then had that never been the case for the GB? So many prophetic utterances made in Gods name, and so many were seen to be fake. Anyone can make forecasts and interpretation about something no one can see. But it is a great gamble if the uttered forecasts are time limited ....and then that time passes by. What is a man to logically conclude? If God truly communicated such interpretation to his "chosen few who have been gathered out of Babylon the Great" tasked to gather the sheep, then he(God) has clearly communicated some falsehoods. Does God communicate falsehoods to "the slave" to "feed (or fool) the sheep at the proper time"? Or is there perhaps a more simpler explanation that maybe such communication did not originate from God.. but alas from men. Remind me of what Jesus said of the pharisees in his day.. " you teach commands of men as commands of God..". What do you think Bro Jackson? Is there some parallel here? Feel free to post a comment. If you proclaim that you are "of the anointed", the spirit will move you to speak truth on such matters. Otherwise, how are you any different from an other "worldly" wisdom?
Semantics. Yahweh or Jah or Jehovah. Jesus wasn't Jesus either. In Hebrew it was Yeshua. The word "Jesus" is the Latin form of the Greek "Iesous" which is the translation of the Hebrew word Jeshua, or Joshua, or Jehoshua, meaning "Jehovah( or Yahweh) is salvation". So we should all start saying Yeshua instead of Jesus. Otherwise we will be confused right?
I was under the impression that we are CURRENTLY living in the great tribulation??? Becasue there is trouble everywhere earthwide . I mean I see tribulation everyday . When you look at the world news and you consider everything I think we are living in the great tribulation. At its best we are all failing in that sooner if not later even our health fails. So i dont see this as a single event.
I always thought the jw version of Armageddon was such weak sauce. Others used the Bible to define it way better. The whole "we don't know how long the tribulation will be" is them admitting they have no idea and would actually be terrified of anything like it actually happened.
I do have to say, being disfellowshipped this is kind of nice, maybe my JW mom thinks I'll still have a chance when the tribulation starts and I admit holy cow JWs were right. Of course that'll never happen and I know she already feels that way but at least it's official now.
Wow! I never put it together but the sheep who survive Armageddon into the 1000 yr reign “ grow to perfection “. That means that Christ ransom sacrifice doesn’t apply to them. Instead of forgiveness of sin through Christ they gradually have their sinful tendencies washed away somehow as they “grow to perfection”.
I feel like if you read the Bible like the gnostics did, where none of this stuff means actual life or death but rather a spiritual ascension to "life" the Bible makes a lot more sense. But it's pretty evident that at least the OT and the apocalyptic Jews of the first century were about real, tangible world changes. What a huge mess it is to try to figure this stuff out.
It is commonly believed that the injunction recorded at 2 John concerning deceivers and antichrists is directed specifically to protect the congregation against gnostic thought.
If a god of love, or one worthy of our love, wanted to send us a vital life/soul saving message to his children, he certainly could/should have found abetter way to do it than through these absurd scriptures and all these conflicting interpretations. The bible has the same purpose as grims fairy tales; to scare ignorant children into obedience
It is marvelous that you know so much about what God should and could have done. Perhaps you should set up a consulting firm. Gods R Us might make a catchy name.
@BeroeanPickets The "Gods are us" agency scenario is quite obviously how the Bible began. We have a modern day personification of this in l ron hubbard Or the nexium cults. Throughout the ages, People have been so eager to buy into the Fabrications of others Imagination
Eric do you hold any conferences or gatherings for us in the ex jw community? would love to shaje your hand and meet others whonhave been damaged but see hope
Indeed, we do. Every Saturday and Sunday there are meetings online. Where we study the Bible together in an informal atmosphere. Today’s meeting is at 12 noon Eastern standard time if you’d like to join, go to HTTPS://Beroeans.net/events
Please kindly shed more light on Genesis chapter 3 where God said that man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad. This portion is usually not discussed, and the issue of the tree of knowledge eye opening ability is sometimes presented as being a lie.
Really enjoy your talks Eric. I really can not believe they would go that far just to save their own skin. This maybe off track from your subject. But I remember started my studies with them A subject on suicide . If a person commented suicide. Would not be resurrected . I myself was going through some hard times. in my 20's . Marriage failed. a child involved. custody battle. the list goes on. I don't think like that now. Anyhow If a person does this, is he/she do they get a resurrection? or not ?
“. . .“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven.” (Matthew 12:31) Based on this, I think the answer to your question would be that even suicide is a forgivable sin.
Most of us former JWs know MANY who committed suicide. Quite a few were victims of the child molesters at the Kingdom Halls or were viciously shunned, depriving them of all friends and family. @blaircaines
Sorry just want to make sure I heard correctly.. did you refer to some "covenant" between God and..... Noah??? Just to be clear, you do know that Noah is copied from the much much older flood myths ... The oldest being 1500 years older than Noah.. He was called zissudra in sumer, he was called atra-hasis in Babylon and unapishtum in akkadian.. all were commanded to build arks and save 2 off every animal because God (enki/ea) was going to destroy the earth with a flood.. so my question is, who did God make this covenant with? And which God are you referring to?
We "do know that Noah is copied from the much much older flood myths"??? Sorry, but "We do know..." is the kind of language the Governing Body uses, and like your good self, they make it without providing any proof.
THIS doctrinal error, 2 classes, is the worst of theirs, and what really pissed me off once i realized what the bible actually teaches It robs most of forgiveness completely, and therefore, any inheritance of life.... Totally false doctrines there
- Isn’t it clearly stated that the tribulation lasts 7 years? - it is my belief that the sheep / goats refér to non-Christians in the great trib. Some will treat christs brothers / the saints well and will be granted access to the new earth. These people are the nations who will inherit the new earth but will not be granted acces to new Jerusalem. Only the saints will live there. - Eric you have often stated that you don’t believe in organized religion. But would you not agree that the Bible speaks of rules and organisational matters? That would mean that there will be true churches somewhere other than the body of Christ / people scattered around the earth.
@@mamajan99i think it is pretty clear that the goats/sheep are non Christians. -> “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.” Surely if the sheeps are Christians they will know and acknowledge other Christians? They must be non-Christians IMO.
@@BeroeanPicketsDaniel 9:24-27. I have not done any studie on the tribulation yet so it is merely my impression that the overall understanding is 7 years. Not that an overall understanding equal truth. 😅😅 The great tribulation leading to the coming of Christ
No. That hasn't changed. What has changed is that the opportunity to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses through last-minute repentance has been moved from before the attack on Babylon the Great to just before the outbreak of Armageddon. I'm referring to their interpretation of events, of course.
I was always taught that the presence and coming of Christ were two different things paracea however you spell it and the other word for coming they use.
They teach that, because they need to have Christ return twice. They teach he came in 1914 invisibly and so we're now in his presence. I guess that he then has to go away and return so that he can come a third time. Interesting that he can be present and still come. Of course, there is no Bible verse to support that, but who cares, we have the Watchtower to tell us. Like the Catechism and the book of Mormon, the writings of the Watchtower corporation take precedence over holy scripture.
Lies have a need of a very complicated explanation The truth is very simple Resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous Jesus is the judge He doesn't need a pencil, a pen , a white book a black book What a bunch of nonsense 2 Resurrection that is
I always found the illustrations of Jesus at Armageddon a conundrum! Witnesses teach no one will see Jesus except them in a perceived way. You know the whole every eye will see me” scripture. Witnesses say. No no. That’s not true. Yet they have all these illustrations showing the opposite of their belief? Maybe I’m mixed up🤷🏻
Listening to apostates could cost you your life. 1. The 24 Elders, co rulers, are taken up before the Great Tribulation. 2. The 144,000 on earth and those dead are taken up as Jesus arrives. 3. The Great crowd on earth are protected from the point Jesus arrives. 4. Those alive when Jesus arrives are those who never die. Jesus did not arrive in 1914, nor does anyone still think he did.
@jacobfield - You're wrong about 1, 2, 3, 4. I can say this without the need to prove it, because you have stated it without proving it. Isn't it fun to make stuff up and not need to prove it? Well, it may be fun until Christ comes and demands an accounting. Hmm, on second thought....
How exactly did st Paul know about this changing? And who decided that he was right, and how was he right, as every other Christian group says he's taking about a physical resurrection in 1 Corinthians, not being recreated as spirit beings.... All so ridiculous
Incorrect. “. . .It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. . . .” (1 Corinthians 15:44) “. . .The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:45)
Get out of Her my people….if you don’t want to share in her sins. Pastor Russel was adamant that organized religion was the ipitome of false religion. Yet here we are looking at a worldwide organized religion that considers itself a nation. A New World Society. How did it get so far from the ideals of the original Bible students?
@@fastlane956 Eric was joking. Didn't you get the joke? Eric knows that you don't know when the great tribulation begins. At Matthew 24:20, Jesus said to the Jews, "Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath." For a joke, Eric was pretending that he believed you.
Watchtower is the boy who cried wolf.
Or maybe the Wolves who cried, "Hey Boy" before their pedophile trials...
I am 74 years old, born and raised a witness, convinced that I would not grow old and die, that I and my family would see paradise and dead loved ones restored to this earth. BUT, I have lost both my parents and my brother to death. My aging body is telling me that I can look forward to the same. I left the organization in 2016 due to the the extreme policies for shunning and what I knew about the problem of child abuse within the organization.
One thing I have NEVER been able to accept is the belief that out of 7 and a quarter BILLION people, only 8 million Jehovahs Witnesses would survive Armageddon. I don’t believe that the God of love and mercy would destroy people who have never known Jehovah, who live in extreme poverty, deprivation, physical, mental and emotional pain or people who do believe in God and live their lives with honesty, integrity, love and compassion would die because they weren’t Jehovahs Witnesses. None of this destruction at Armageddon rhetoric makes the least bit of sense to me.
I agree completely Brother!!
Me toooooooooooooo
Yes I agree with you. ❤
Same here beloved one...
My mom is 78 and a faithful Witness and she doesn't believe that terrible doctrine. She firmly believes JEHOVAH will make everything right for everybody. I've been disfellowshipped for over 25 years and she has never shunned me, in fact she's saved my life many many times. Recently she's even mentioned the changes to me when we're not supposed to have "spiritual association." What a very strange world JW is.
Not only it is wrong not to apologize, it is sinful for going beyong what is written, for taking away from the scriptures or adding what's not there. And yet, they want us to report ourselves to the elders only to humiliate us in front of the entire congregation. When they don't see anything wrong with deceiving people and not even bother to apologize.
Your right yet somehow they have no problem with the additions and extractions
So what are we to think of such things? For me its scary to know there are people out there who are ok with such things.
@@WatchMeTower give me the address I'm interested although Eric is doing a service inform me
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Why does that matter?
People simply need to stop following men.
Thank you Eric for the very hard work your doing to help people wake up and get out from this tereble and distractive Cult!!!!!!!!
Most of the doctrines which were used to beat me over the head in adolescence have now changed
@@WatchMeTowerPUT UP OR SHUT UP!
It’s the Good News Association incorporated as a nonprofit in Delaware. The New York one has no connection to me. If you are going to engage in lies and slander, you need to get your facts right otherwise you’ll be found out before you get off the ground. Just a little piece of friendly advice.
Today's "governing Body" would all be Disfellowshipped for apostasy by the 1970's
GB, and Vice Versa! Laughable if it wasn't such crazy demon inspired "New Light". "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2 Cor:15 "It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions. "
this church has jumped the shark as they say. I stick to the bible, and I don't worry about trying to figure out signs and prophecies. I only concern myself with how I live and treat others around me where I dont bring reproach to God's name. Bible says neither fornicators nor adulterers....etc. so my goal is to make sure i am not doing those things that are on the list. I believe in Jesus and our heavenly father, and the only religious book I need is Gods word the Bible.
No other man made doctrine or book is required. God doesnt make mistakes but man does.
Suena un poco farisaico ,,diciendo que " yo no hago esto ni aquello como los otros pecadores "" perdón si lo malentendi
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EXACTLY! Well stated.
Wow 😮 Yes, I’m ashamed to say, I attempted to take my life with the hope God would have mercy on me and I could be saved. I knew I couldn’t do it on my own. I felt this way, i might have a chance. 🤦♀️ How repugnant this thinking is. Jesus is the way, as I can’t do it on my own. 🙏🏻
Don't let these demonic, evil people make you feel like giving up on life. It's the neglect and abandonment that makes you feel like ending your life because you have been left stranded with no support system from family and friends. Don't let them win, don't let them feel smug that they have succeeded in breaking someone to the point of sacrificing themselves to their evil god, Jehovah. The true God loves you beyond measure. We are all children of God, here to learn and heal ourselves and the world from the trauma false religions have caused. Love is the most powerful energy, love yourself and develop self worth and know you are loved by your spirit team and ancestors. You will only have to come back and do it again if we end our journey prematurely without learning what we need to to grow and evolve into higher spiritual beings of light. You are loved and you are valuable to the world and God. Keep going it will all make sense, try not to dwell in lower vibrational emotions. Let go of anger, resentment, pain and frustration that keeps us in victim mentality. Enjoy the beautiful life God has provided for us now, be grateful for everything, stay in the moment, the present is where God can be found. Move on and move forward into a more healthier, loving future. Good luck, hope this helps. ❤
That is what they want for you to fail. There are many who are with you and can give the love your needing to keep going❤
Thank you brother Eric. Great encouragement for all of us that have left false religion, including the witnesses. Please continue and do not let up. Many will wake up, all to the glory of God. Many blessings from The Father and Son. Ismael, Kingdom Christian from sunny ☀️ Puerto Rico.
@@WatchMeTowerWhat proof do you have for this accusation, put up or shut up?
He was becoming tedious, so I had to remove him. I agree. If he has proof, then show it. I think he googled "Good News corporation" and didn't realize that the nonprofit we set up was in Delaware and the NY one belongs to another group, but the whole idiocy that I'm on the Watchtower payroll chairing a focus group is just too bizarre. Mind you, I could use the money. 🤣
@@BeroeanPickets Well done Eric!
"I had to remove him." Eric I didn't want to announce it here, But I just disfellowshipped the entire governing body for their apostasy...and their skinny Jeans. They are all very uncormfortable sitting in the back corner of the hall with their pants on. @@BeroeanPickets
Romans 6:23. “ The wages of sin is death.” It is not our place to wonder what God will do. 1 Corinthians 4:6 “do not go beyond what is written “
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Very good video Eric. What more can be said people have to wake up themselves. Ultimately we are the only one that can make this decision. Such a wicked group of men misleading others. Their judgment will be their own making.
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Je m'excuse que j'écris en français 🇨🇵
Ils vont bientôt faire une nouvelle vidéo comme pour l'année 1975 !
Ils vont rejetés encore et encore la responsabilité sur leurs ouailles 😮
Oui ce mouvement sectaire est une supercherie ils peuvent mentir aux hommes mais pas à Dieu 😬
Ils vont recevoir bientôt j'espère leurs salaires...
And the light just keeps getting brighter for these wicked masters known as The Governing Body.
No, they are wallowing around in the dark.
If you say that something was from God and then change your mind and say the opposite...that is the description scripture gives for a false prophet in Duet 18: 22 is it not ?!
These false prophets of watchtower never learn.
@@WatchMeTower i replied to this comment on my previous comment.
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Unfortunately, rather than disfellowshipping these false prophets, the people keep following them. I don’t understand why. 😢
The nerve of him and those people laughing. I was born in this cult in 1960 and spent all the years to 1975 and longer. Wishing my unbelieving father would die before the great tribulation, so he could survive later on and get resurrected. What exactly about making a little child wish her father would die very soon in order to save him is funny. Their evil snickers during this talk are abominable!
Thank you for sharing that.
@@BeroeanPickets Me too. As children, I used to hope Paul Mc Cartney and Steve Perry, two huge musical influences on me, would die in time.. Sounds stupid now, but it shows, these doctrines MATTER, and his stupid comment" We know what you been saying"? Yeah, I wonder why we said that you moron, because this org taught us to.. so nauseating. Even when caught in stupid false teachings, they mock and will NOT apologize, incredible.
Its the same crap as when they said those focusing on stay alive til 75 were" over zealous" and " some brothers mistook, bla bla bla"
It is as false of a cult as can be
Thank you Jesus for pulling me out of this garbage.
Such an evil sick organization!!
Yes it woke me up! I was convinced all my former friends were going to die 2nd death! I had to do everything in my power to teach them the TRUTH! I actually think I had a breakdown I took the must be in the Ark teaching so seriously….
We were in a congregation that had an elderly sister who was so confused with what to believe and this was made worse whenever she asked an elder for clarification she was told "do your research". Sadly she has passed. No love shown here.
The Governing Body admits they are neither inspired of infallible. Therefore, how do we know they are “anointed”?
we should check our wristwatchtower to see what crime it is.
How could we possibly agree to trust them after knowing whatever they teach or print is constantly changing.
They r not just compare how they behave to how any of the apostles behaved after HS descended on them 🙄
Damn, that last point of yours regarding the real reason people can change at the last minute was the kicker. I never saw it coming. You are SO right. God bless your sterling insights.
Thank you so much for your explanations. Also noted GOG OF MAGOG end off the thousand years. From Australia left in 2020age 80 years old. Was born in still have my faith. Many blessings. Loved the beautiful interviews from Europe.
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Aren’t they disgusting. Their attitudes shine thru , like how they all laugh when he says they are all thinking the same thing about late comers ..
isn’t that what the parable of the ones that are paid the same from the master even if they come at the end of the day?
They probably won't be laughing if they were to die without repenting of their wickedness, and find themselves in hell, or facing God on Judgment Day.
Thank you for unscrewing that mess as we were taught. I had it right the first time.
Unscrewed the GB's light bulb? LOL!
I used to go to the meetings as a kid sometimes. When I got to college I had stopped attending. In my mid-30s I started attending again, and came real close to being baptized but didn't because of external reasons. One day I was on TH-cam and came across a video about Jehovah's Witnesses. I clicked on it, and afterward my life was forever changed. I'm so thankful for channels like this that help people to discover the truth about this cult.
Great analysis brother. I guess all we can do is pray for our fellow witnesses 👍👍
Absolutely
She’s probably so afraid and had lost everyone and everything dear and familiar to her. There’s only fear and love. I guess fear got the better of her. I’m so sorry. I tried once to get reinstated. The elders made me detail everything personal in a long long letter of how the world corrupted me. Then I was told I’d be watched carefully at each meeting to see if I was truly humbled and of course the shunning would continue til they decided. It broke my heart all over again. So I ran and never again tried to get back. It was humiliating and to sit at another Memorial and have to bypass the bread and wine (only one old lady took it), made me feel the familiar loneliness in my heart for Jesus. And in reality, I only wanted to go back to be rejoined to family I had lost in the disfellowshipping and shunning. No, I couldn’t do that again. When I really thought about it: I did not leave them. They left me. ❤
You did the right thing. Good for you.
Hear hear !
You have a great explanation of the bizarre change in belief related to the new light of being saved at the very end of the very end of the conclusion of the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. Taking this to its logical conclusion, this negates the need to shun family members.
You make such sense! Wow I wish I had you around in the 70’s when I got disfellowshipped for asking questions! And those illustrations in the magazines! Why would soldiers on the ground be shooting at these “visions”? A real person seeing something like that would be...well, never mind.
A false prophet has to inspire fear, because that is all he has to trade in.
"I got disfellowshipped for asking questions!" Ain't that just crazy? EVIL really.
The governing body should be imprisoned. For life. They are blood guilty. They are so arrogant. Wanted it both ways. "We're not inspired. We're led by the Holy Spirit" WTF.
They are frauds - period.
I agree.
Every time they say something I catch myself thinking, “I’m not the judge, but…”
REALLY GOOD logic, scripture quotes and perfect emphasis of key words in your presentation. No, I'm not pretending to be the Ministry School Servant critiquing your talk. It was just plain good. 🙂 TY.
You gave me my morning chuckle. Thank you, Sheryl
@@BeroeanPickets 😁
dogmatic seems to be the new dog whistle. the constant changes via new light makes our creator seem indecisive. being ready to obey any instructions we may receive whether sound or not from someone who is neither inspired nor infallible and is unable to apologize gives me flashbacks to Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite.
The savour of an Elder is what I like about your Channell. I want to learn from you. I am a Baptist, Fundamental and have never left it.
Yehovah bless you brother💯🙏💪 thank you once again .🙏🙏🙏
You do realize that there is a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York and a Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, don't you? These are state corporations. I don't know who owns the Good News Assocation Inc. of New York, but it isn't I.
But I'm curious about this Watch Tower focus group on the WT payroll that I'm supposedly in charge of. Where did you come up with that little gem? I'd love to know. Please tell me that you didn't make it up out of thin air. That would be no fun.
Sir, thank you for your program. I truly appreciate your wisdom. In my opinion, we ALL face a great tribulation in our dying hours and we all face rapture and peace. God did not make us to kill us and to believe that, in my opinion, grieves the Holy Spirit. I used to be so timid, so afraid as a JW. Yet since the 70’s, I have educated myself, have gone through all the seasons of life as EVERYONE DOES AND WILL. There are Seasons and truly, a Time to every Purpose under Heaven! Yes, the Governing Body carefully orchestrates its own disasters. Have you ever noticed how each man in the Governing Body has a personality and facial expressions (or lack of) to match the tones of topics? For example, Geoffrey comes across big and jolly like a fatherly Santa figure to appeal to audiences who need that. The grandfatherly type who can be stern but loving or oh-so-silly is Lett with his dementia look and “Bahhhh!”, as though to entertain the children. Winder is nerdy and has the thick eyebrows and glasses and higher-pitched voice for those who are more tech-speak (so to speak)...these men must also love sitting or standing before the cameras and audiences. Now, I would be ashamed to be in the WT. As a young person, I was just scared as there was some “Wizard of Org” behind some curtain somewhere but we knew not whom or where. Thank you.
Very well put.
Splane looks and talks like someone I wouldn’t want around my children.
Excellent coverage of this topic. We sre still listening but i have to say how much we appreciate this.
Thank you brother for your diligent work....
Some questions 🤔have plagued me for the longest of time
Thank you Eric for all the work you do in exposing the Watchtower for the liars they are.
I just found yoyr channel, and I love your approach while thoroughly dissecting the "new light". I just had subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
Thankyou so much for this clear full coverage of this subject brother. Extreamly helpful x
@@WatchMeTower i don't know what you are referring too but i will watch your video and tske a look.
Baring in mind i have noticed a lot of exjw content seems to be smashing fiwn and bad mouthing other exjw channels. I understand that people feel this information needs to be exposed but i find it very sad that the watchtower mentality of tearing each other down is still rife amongst the community members where in fact we need to be building up one another not twaring each other down.
That being said as of now i have not seen your video nor am i aware of what your referring to so please accept my reply to you as just that...currently uninformed.
@@WatchMeTower im 12 minutes into your video. Im sorry i can't see what it is you want us to undersrand. Sorry.
I don't agree with everything any channel says and i always do my own research. If you want people like me to understand the point your making...maybe try explaining what it is you want us to know.
I watch various videos, but if I don't hear the Shepherd's voice, I just move along.@@anniesavedbygrace
@@WatchMeTowerYou are a liar or you don’t know what you’re talking about. And anyone that joins the Beroean Picket’s Zoom bible study knows Eric is not a tyrant. He’s incredibly humble.
Jesus Christ is the way and the light and the Truth!!!!
So many people have been disfellowshipped including yourself because of not agreeing with everything that the governing body has said. And they are saying we shouldn't be dogmatic in our beliefs. But they still continue to disfellowship people who disagree with the things that they have said. Especially this one I have had many feelings about things that they have said that I just didn't think could be true especially the fact that Jesus started raining in 1919 that's absolutely fallacy but if I would have said that to someone in organization I would have been disfellowship. I am no longer a practicing JW I'm not disfellowship or disassociated I'm just I guess what you would call an in active at this point but I just keep seeing them changing so many things that your head spins but when a nobody makes a statement and then a couple years later it's found out that the governing body actually believes the same thing and has changed that belief what are they going to do with the people they've disfellowshipped (destroyed) in the past?
Its all about human psychology. The greater number wholly believe the claim of the very smaller few who lead that they are the chosen few and whatever comes forth from their mouths is truth and can only be truth and past "truths" which are now "current falsehoods" are not to be mentioned. The truth is what we say it is and when we say it is.The power of disfellowshipment and shunning are the tools to keep the greater number "happy and united" (applause please) and discourage the leaving of the group or speaking negatively of the group. Can I suggest ( to all) a read of George Orwells "1984" to gain a small insight in how this group think functions. Its uncannily accurate.
Excellent, Excellent, Spot on Analysis 👍👍👍 Thanks, Eric.
My pleasure!
Great video Eric. Although, honestly, now that I'm out, I can see that dismantling their false doctrine is like shooting fish in a barrel.😂
@@WatchMeTowerPUT UP OR SHUT UP!
I have learned so much from what WT calls ppl that have fallen away as "apostates " from your channel, JT and lady Cee, Research Rose just to name a few and not to discount others seems to me that all of you are more knowledgeable and really make all of us critically think. I so much appreciate all of your research and knowledge
I want to say thank you so mich for share this with the world. This organization has been misguiding millions for decades.
They can't keep their own BS strait.
There is another option. Yes, we shall not all sleep in death. But if we die and are resurrected in a twinkling of an eye. Can it be said that we actually "slept"? The first resurrection begins, and all those who die in christ are resurrected to meet them in the air in a twinkle.
Absent from the body, present with the Lord. Also Scripture says: Man has not seen or ear heard or has it entered into the mind of man the beauty and the wonder that awaits those who love Christ Jesus.
Dear Eric,
I am certain from my own experience that the vast majority of Jw's do not understand these points in the slightest. Marilyn and are are so grateful for your clarification on this.
Each time I raised this point within the congregation with the body of elders, I met with the following explanation. "Jesus has not come a second time, we are still waiting for that. But when we speak of the 1914 era, we do not mean his second coming, but his presence???
Jesus and Jehovah turned their attention on the organisation about 1914, when we were found ready upon his inspection. That was when we become Jehovah's earthly representatives"!!!!.
Typically, I accepted this, but pondered on it often, until we left a couple of years ago.
Since then, thanks to your videos, your writing, book included, and the meetings of the Beroean Pickets we attend, we have learned so much in that little time. We can only offer you our heartfelt thanks and love to all our dear brothers and sisters, the children of God.
Hi Derek and Marilyn. It is so good to have you with us each week as we study the Bible together. I learn so much from the comments that all share with each other at the online meetings.
I concur with you that Jesus cannot be present unless he has come. Jesus left in 33 C.E. and then he was present in 1914, but he didn't come in 1914, but will come in the future??? How does that make any sense? They love to play with words, redefining them to suit their purposes and help them save failed prophetic interpretations. How often have they redefined the meaning of "generation" until now we have this abomination called the "overlapping generation".
What a joy it is not to have to make scripture fit the doctrines of men, but instead to allow God's word to speak for itself.
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A joy indeed. Even better than a barefoot dance on a spring dew, covered lawn🤗
Thank You for the interesting biblical view !
Most welcome
Ure attacking the witness fake doctrines like an angry Lion🦁
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The GB can’t agree on their own doctrines many times contradicting each other…their literature bounces all over the place as well….very sad
Why would the armies of the world need tank columns and attack helicopters to arrest ''gods people'' ? unarmed agents would suffice? but that wouldn't be cinematic would it?
They are drama queens, aren't they? 😂
the basement video was as intimidating as possible just short of brandishing weapons. i thought it odd all those guys suited up and they forgot their firearms.
What is the name of your boo, Eric, I was once a witness thankfully I woke up and came out
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I think know I understood from where they take out
theirs teachings, it's NOT "new light" - FORGET ABOUT IT!
They take out right from their *SSES.
Please be well, Brother Wilson.❤🥰 🙏🏼
If Christ came in 1914 what is their evidence of that? Sad that JW never seek that information by studying or doing their own research. l pray that those who are still in there wake up to this and see what this organisation really is❤🙏
Thank you brother
Welcome
The beards and pants took focus away from this change in doctrine. In my opinion deliberately. This woke me up! I was always taught unequivocally ppl had to be “ in the ARK” or the organization. I think I had a breakdown looking back bc it now became my responsibility to reach everyone I loved or they would die 2nd death! I studied and studied thinking the knock at the door might be all they get, I took it very seriously ‼️ Now they admit they don’t know who will be saved and we don’t need to apologize for “ not getting it quite right” they wheeled Jeffery Winder out to make that statement ( another deliberate decision) give that to the new guy deflect the blowback…. They also said they are not infallible nor inspired …. I listened to that talk 3xs realized then I don’t need YOU I can study myself. I’m still angers how most seemed to miss the significance of this BS and they got away with even more deception! My husband came out with me but lost our daughter….. she doesn’t understand why this is such a big deal…. We r back to our original HOPE IN CHRIST. Thankful to have our eyes opened finally
Thank u for your ministry 💜💙❤️
I found it particularly interesting that in that chart Geoffrey Jackson showed, the "fall" of Babylon the Great is at the start of the future GT, yet Geoffrey refers to it as the "destruction". Is the GB finally saying the two are the same? That means they will have to abandon their teaching that Babylon the Great, including Christendom, was judged and "fell" in 1918. They will have to stop teaching that the harvest of the wheat and weeds bagan at that time (Actually they say that began in 1914). If they can no longer teach that Christendom was "rejected" back then, then they can no longer preach that they were favoured and then selected as the FDS. They have knocked over a domino, the rest better dam well fall over! Lol
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What you're expressing about their mixed up doctrines is what I've found lately. I've been out for awhile but the Holy Spirit was tugging at me so I dived into their beliefs again with what I know now and reevaluated their timelines just like what you're doing. I now think WT is leading people down a darker path, not sure if they actually know it as an organization that they are but its not a Holy Spirit by any means thats leading them. Their prophecy on the Kings of the East with regards to the Euphrates has failed as of recent. If they believe all false religion will be destroyed... and suppose Islams Mahdi comes to power, someone who fits the biblical Anti-Christ to a T, it seems they could very well be liable to accept him since the Mahdi will make it his mission to persecute all *false religion* which will be the Jews and Christians who are regarded as dogs and pigs. Revelation speaks of the holy ones being beheaded and... Islam is notorious for beheading. Theres many many many glaring similarities that I can no longer brush off. I was looking into Islam a year ago before all this happened in Israel and I'd invite anyone to at least do the research. Either way, even WT's modern day theological timelines now seem to be everchanging. But honestly, thats what happens when you have no Holy Spirit. Their false prophets can't even keep up at this point anymore. The tides are turning though... and I genuinely believe Yahweh is going to hold those leading accountable for how they have profaned his name.
💰 So many lives lost in the JW\CULT 💰
Why do they, The GB, keep showing man made armies, tanks and rifles when it clearly says it will be Gods anger that will destroy the wicked with fire from heaven at Armageddon?
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Hi, thanks for your work. But I don't see a link about your perspective on the great tribulation you said you'd include...
Sorry, here's a link to the article and the video:
beroeans.net/2020/04/12/examining-matthew-24-part-7-the-great-tribulation/
@@BeroeanPickets thank you. Very much appreciated
Dear Bro Jackson. In the bible, anyone that is designated or authorized by Jehovah as his prophet or prophet-like spokesman and who make statements pertaining to scripture particularly in relation to prophecy, they are always 100% correct and they never made alterations over time delivering "new truths" to replace "old truths" - making the old truths false-- never again to be mentioned on pain of disfellowshipment - but God moved them to speak truth and truth it always was. Why then had that never been the case for the GB? So many prophetic utterances made in Gods name, and so many were seen to be fake. Anyone can make forecasts and interpretation about something no one can see. But it is a great gamble if the uttered forecasts are time limited ....and then that time passes by. What is a man to logically conclude? If God truly communicated such interpretation to his "chosen few who have been gathered out of Babylon the Great" tasked to gather the sheep, then he(God) has clearly communicated some falsehoods. Does God communicate falsehoods to "the slave" to "feed (or fool) the sheep at the proper time"? Or is there perhaps a more simpler explanation that maybe such communication did not originate from God.. but alas from men. Remind me of what Jesus said of the pharisees in his day.. " you teach commands of men as commands of God..". What do you think Bro Jackson? Is there some parallel here? Feel free to post a comment. If you proclaim that you are "of the anointed", the spirit will move you to speak truth on such matters. Otherwise, how are you any different from an other "worldly" wisdom?
His name is Yahweh not Jehovah.
Semantics. Yahweh or Jah or Jehovah. Jesus wasn't Jesus either. In Hebrew it was Yeshua. The word "Jesus" is the Latin form of the Greek "Iesous" which is the translation of the Hebrew word Jeshua, or Joshua, or Jehoshua, meaning "Jehovah( or Yahweh) is salvation". So we should all start saying Yeshua instead of Jesus. Otherwise we will be confused right?
I was under the impression that we are CURRENTLY living in the great tribulation??? Becasue there is trouble everywhere earthwide . I mean I see tribulation everyday . When you look at the world news and you consider everything I think we are living in the great tribulation. At its best we are all failing in that sooner if not later even our health fails. So i dont see this as a single event.
Agreed.
In Islam the first of the major sign of the end times is the rebuilding of the 3rd temple.
Only Jehovah can read your heart, I was taught from a child that not all Jehovah's witness would make it , and people with good heat condition would
Were those who taught you as a child Jehovah's Witnesses? If so, did the elders know that your teachers had taught you that?
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But they was/is part of the United Nations so that means they are false religion! They told us about themselves!
I always thought the jw version of Armageddon was such weak sauce. Others used the Bible to define it way better. The whole "we don't know how long the tribulation will be" is them admitting they have no idea and would actually be terrified of anything like it actually happened.
I do have to say, being disfellowshipped this is kind of nice, maybe my JW mom thinks I'll still have a chance when the tribulation starts and I admit holy cow JWs were right. Of course that'll never happen and I know she already feels that way but at least it's official now.
Wow! I never put it together but the sheep who survive Armageddon into the 1000 yr reign “ grow to perfection “. That means that Christ ransom sacrifice doesn’t apply to them. Instead of forgiveness of sin through Christ they gradually have their sinful tendencies washed away somehow as they “grow to perfection”.
I feel like if you read the Bible like the gnostics did, where none of this stuff means actual life or death but rather a spiritual ascension to "life" the Bible makes a lot more sense. But it's pretty evident that at least the OT and the apocalyptic Jews of the first century were about real, tangible world changes. What a huge mess it is to try to figure this stuff out.
It is commonly believed that the injunction recorded at 2 John concerning deceivers and antichrists is directed specifically to protect the congregation against gnostic thought.
If a god of love, or one worthy of our love, wanted to send us a vital life/soul saving message to his children, he certainly could/should have found abetter way to do it than through these absurd scriptures and all these conflicting interpretations. The bible has the same purpose as grims fairy tales; to scare ignorant children into obedience
Seems so sometimes. People should be concentrating on love and building up, not scaring and tossing down.
It is marvelous that you know so much about what God should and could have done. Perhaps you should set up a consulting firm. Gods R Us might make a catchy name.
@@BeroeanPickets LOL! good one!
@BeroeanPickets The "Gods are us" agency scenario is quite obviously how the Bible began. We have a modern day personification of this in l ron hubbard Or the nexium cults. Throughout the ages, People have been so eager to buy into the Fabrications of others Imagination
Well said 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
what proof do we have of any of this?
Eric do you hold any conferences or gatherings for us in the ex jw community? would love to shaje your hand and meet others whonhave been damaged but see hope
Indeed, we do. Every Saturday and Sunday there are meetings online. Where we study the Bible together in an informal atmosphere. Today’s meeting is at 12 noon Eastern standard time if you’d like to join, go to HTTPS://Beroeans.net/events
I want to be apart too!❤
Please kindly shed more light on Genesis chapter 3 where God said that man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad. This portion is usually not discussed, and the issue of the tree of knowledge eye opening ability is sometimes presented as being a lie.
I'll put this on my ever growing "to do" list. 😁
Really enjoy your talks Eric. I really can not believe they would go that far just to save their own skin.
This maybe off track from your subject. But I remember started my studies with them A subject on suicide . If a person commented suicide. Would not be resurrected . I myself was going through some hard times. in my 20's . Marriage failed. a child involved. custody battle. the list goes on. I don't think like that now. Anyhow If a person does this, is he/she do they get a resurrection? or not ?
“. . .“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven.” (Matthew 12:31)
Based on this, I think the answer to your question would be that even suicide is a forgivable sin.
Thanks for your response. I had had friends whom did this act.
Most of us former JWs know MANY who committed suicide. Quite a few were victims of the child molesters at the Kingdom Halls or were viciously shunned, depriving them of all friends and family. @blaircaines
Voyage to Marse
G. Jackson reminds me of Dr. Bunsen Honeydew 😎
You can translate your videos in Italian ?
Sorry just want to make sure I heard correctly.. did you refer to some "covenant" between God and..... Noah??? Just to be clear, you do know that Noah is copied from the much much older flood myths ... The oldest being 1500 years older than Noah.. He was called zissudra in sumer, he was called atra-hasis in Babylon and unapishtum in akkadian.. all were commanded to build arks and save 2 off every animal because God (enki/ea) was going to destroy the earth with a flood.. so my question is, who did God make this covenant with? And which God are you referring to?
We "do know that Noah is copied from the much much older flood myths"???
Sorry, but "We do know..." is the kind of language the Governing Body uses, and like your good self, they make it without providing any proof.
THIS doctrinal error, 2 classes, is the worst of theirs, and what really pissed me off once i realized what the bible actually teaches
It robs most of forgiveness completely, and therefore, any inheritance of life.... Totally false doctrines there
Does the light in Prov.4:18 get lighter and lighter or doesit it get brighter and brighter?
- both are from NWT bible
Hi Eric thanks for this, can you be contacted by email?
Sure. meleti.vivlon@gmail.com
That what is going to happen to all JW's after Geoffrey Jackson's sermon , just run a way ..
John 3:16-21 is clear
They flip flopping all the time
- Isn’t it clearly stated that the tribulation lasts 7 years?
- it is my belief that the sheep / goats refér to non-Christians in the great trib. Some will treat christs brothers / the saints well and will be granted access to the new earth. These people are the nations who will inherit the new earth but will not be granted acces to new Jerusalem. Only the saints will live there.
- Eric you have often stated that you don’t believe in organized religion. But would you not agree that the Bible speaks of rules and organisational matters? That would mean that there will be true churches somewhere other than the body of Christ / people scattered around the earth.
Where in the Bible does it talk about organizational matters and rules?
"The wheat and the weeds grow together." Maybe the Goats are the weeds?
Where does it say that the tribulation lasts 7 years? Which tribulation are you referring to?
@@mamajan99i think it is pretty clear that the goats/sheep are non Christians. ->
“For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”
Surely if the sheeps are Christians they will know and acknowledge other Christians? They must be non-Christians IMO.
@@BeroeanPicketsDaniel 9:24-27.
I have not done any studie on the tribulation yet so it is merely my impression that the overall understanding is 7 years. Not that an overall understanding equal truth. 😅😅
The great tribulation leading to the coming of Christ
Sorry I’m a bit lost. So has the belief that only JW’s will be saved at Armageddon changed now?
No. That hasn't changed. What has changed is that the opportunity to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses through last-minute repentance has been moved from before the attack on Babylon the Great to just before the outbreak of Armageddon. I'm referring to their interpretation of events, of course.
Ok gotcha. Thanks for your reply👍🏻
I was always taught that the presence and coming of Christ were two different things paracea however you spell it and the other word for coming they use.
They teach that, because they need to have Christ return twice. They teach he came in 1914 invisibly and so we're now in his presence. I guess that he then has to go away and return so that he can come a third time.
Interesting that he can be present and still come. Of course, there is no Bible verse to support that, but who cares, we have the Watchtower to tell us. Like the Catechism and the book of Mormon, the writings of the Watchtower corporation take precedence over holy scripture.
@@BeroeanPickets Its ridiculous they will say anything to continue to prop up their 1914 foundation.
Demon worship 🛑
Lies have a need of a very complicated explanation
The truth is very simple
Resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous
Jesus is the judge
He doesn't need a pencil, a pen , a white book a black book
What a bunch of nonsense
2 Resurrection that is
I always found the illustrations of Jesus at Armageddon a conundrum! Witnesses teach no one will see Jesus except them in a perceived way. You know the whole every eye will see me” scripture. Witnesses say. No no. That’s not true. Yet they have all these illustrations showing the opposite of their belief? Maybe I’m mixed up🤷🏻
Bible mysteries resolve
Listening to apostates could cost you your life.
1. The 24 Elders, co rulers, are taken up before the Great Tribulation.
2. The 144,000 on earth and those dead are taken up as Jesus arrives.
3. The Great crowd on earth are protected from the point Jesus arrives.
4. Those alive when Jesus arrives are those who never die. Jesus did not arrive in 1914, nor does anyone still think he did.
@jacobfield -
You're wrong about 1, 2, 3, 4. I can say this without the need to prove it, because you have stated it without proving it. Isn't it fun to make stuff up and not need to prove it? Well, it may be fun until Christ comes and demands an accounting. Hmm, on second thought....
Proof/ Scholarship? Any actual biblical research?
thought not
The Bible fully supports the points I made, and they stand until they are proven otherwise.@@BeroeanPickets
Do your elders know you are here?
How exactly did st Paul know about this changing? And who decided that he was right, and how was he right, as every other Christian group says he's taking about a physical resurrection in 1 Corinthians, not being recreated as spirit beings.... All so ridiculous
Incorrect. “. . .It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. . . .” (1 Corinthians 15:44)
“. . .The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (1 Corinthians 15:45)
Get out of Her my people….if you don’t want to share in her sins.
Pastor Russel was adamant that organized religion was the ipitome of false religion.
Yet here we are looking at a worldwide organized religion that considers itself a nation. A New World Society.
How did it get so far from the ideals of the original Bible students?
Brother you are not pre-trib are you?
I don't know what you mean by "pre-trib".
@@BeroeanPickets Oh it was a misunderstanding.
@@BeroeanPickets
When I saw his question, I thought, "This is totally one that Eric will have to answer." Lol
JW's totalling in the dark.
The great tribulation begins in 2027 with the judgement with the house of God Rev 11, 1 Peter 4:17
Really!? What month? I hope it's not in the winter.
@@BeroeanPickets maybe in March. March 26
@@fastlane956 Darn, I have pilates that day.
@@LosBereanos okay?
@@fastlane956
Eric was joking. Didn't you get the joke? Eric knows that you don't know when the great tribulation begins.
At Matthew 24:20, Jesus said to the Jews, "Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath." For a joke, Eric was pretending that he believed you.
At least you are more humble and less ostracizing than that other one who's TH-cam name is "king."
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Robert King is clueless…
Couldn't thier old light have cost you your life also?
Jeffrey crookson!!!!??