We're living in corporate dystopia and Gen Z is reacting accordingly
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"Nobody wants to work" is a phrase you will see in news stories about labor going back to the late 1800s. It's a scapegoat phrase for not offering an actual living wage for employment.
Exactly!
I saw a BBC documentary by Lucy Worsley about England as during the Black Plague, and the elites were also complaining about laborers wanting more pay and not wanting to work.
In a high school course I took, we read a text that was from Ancient Greek or Rome, where the author was essentially saying that about the younger generation. We had to write an essay in response saying if we realistically thought each generation from Ancient rome/greece to 2010 was getting lazier and more privileged. Always thought it was an interesting assignment.
Stop paying people the same as you did 30-40 years ago and maybe you’ll actually be able to find people that want to work! 😂 Companies expecting the world from workers but giving breadcrumbs in return. If you ONLY give minimum wage as a company, expect realistic results=minimum wage worker output, high turnover, low morale and deep worker dissatisfaction!
It might be an ongoing criticism, it stems from the fact that parents attempt to make their childrens lives easier than they had to go through. Anecdotally, I started working with a paper route where I had to wake up at 6am, deliver the papers, go to school and after school try to collect payments for what I delivered.
Where it comes to professional work more recently, I've worked alongside people who would sleep at their desk during working hours and expressed a laziness to where I, as a coworker, would attempt to warn them that their laziness indicated a lack of interest in their work that would get noticed by those signing the paychecks.... mostly those people wound up getting fired. The fact is, if you've ever run a business, you'll find that if you have 10 employees that it's about 1-3 of them account for about 50% of the profitability, if it grows to 100 employees, then it's only about 10 people that produce 50% of the profits. Most people really only work hard enough to not get fired.
Generational issues aside, those people who are modestly smart, dedicated, and hard working always have the least problems keeping their jobs.
Saw this meme: "Nobody wants to work anymore" is just "girls don't want to date nice guys" for businesses.
Damn, that's accurate
So, so accurate
a dependable and stable income is not good enough, that's booooring!
people would rather shitpost on the internet all day and hope for a sponsor to sweep them off their feet one day
@@mgntstr people would like to afford their rent, is that too much to ask?
That's true, because both claim they want one thing until you're lured in and when it's too late, you've finally realized that what they ACTUALLY want is not what you signed up for because you were led to believe a disappointing lie and after you've been gaslit into loyalty and some level of dependency, you've been used well beyond a means of mutual exchange.
Boomer: You can't use a fax machine!
Doomer: You can't convert to PDF
Get you a man that can do both
Here comes Gen X to save the day.@@itubemember
I'm over here wondering who the hell still uses fax machines that aren't lawyers or doctors. lol.
I actually had to and I am not a doctor. You still use faxes, especially over seas. @@SkySong6161
@@SkySong6161that is a lot of people though
"Why are we giving AI the art?!" YES!
Because most of it is worthless anyway.
Serious answer: Cause the boring gruntwork requires 5-17 different programs owned by about 3 different companies (optimistically) that don't interface with each other on an even the most basic level. Putting together an AI to interface with them and then do the grunt work jobs with any degree of accuracy requires negotiating with those companies (and that's assuming they negotiate in good faith) and reprogramming software owned by a different company.
Companies have the money and the lawyers to defend themselves with. Outside of some major animation studios, almost no artists do. And with a modest amount of file formats and no competing software to deal with, the art is just *easier* and cheaper to do.
Though make no mistake, once it becomes cheaper to automate the gruntwork stuff, they'll go for that too. But right now, art and literature is the low-hanging-fruit of AI generation.
As an artist myself, I felt this one.
AI should've been used to do boring demanding jobs like doing a lot of calculations in a short time.
Yet the AI bros decided to use it for art, so they could feel like artists themselves, and rather than spend time learning and developing actual artistic skills they decided to let AI use stolen art to make collages based on prompts.
So basically, anyone using AI for art is an artist-wannabe that was too damn lazy and too impatient to develop the skill themselves.The "get rich quick and easy" crew.
@@FlipTheBard I wholeheartedly disagree.
Judge the people trying to pass AI art off as their own art, sure. But AI generated art can have useful insights and discussions around it. Just because it's made by an algorithm doesn't make it not art. Your argument seems more of an inherit fear of AI than an actual criticism of its place in art.
Art doesn't belong exclusively to humans. Apes and Elephants are capable of learning how to paint: would you not call their creations art?
@@dmoogle2006I’m also an artist, and ai “art” is just generated images. There’s no passion or thought or love put into the piece itself. And you are aware that ai’s use bits of other artists work (WITHOUT CONSENT) to make the image?? And the artist gets no money for that?? It’s just plain stealing, but not many ppl outside of the art community know this because the people making all this money off ai don’t want you to. The reality is, if companies and etc can use free ai to make advertisements, they will. And plus, the more people use ai, the less real artists will be needed and wanted, making art an even harder career to pursue than it already is. And your right, some animals can make art, and I would consider it so, because it was made by a living thing, ai is just a machine. Machines don’t have souls, they can help us and I’m all for that, but no matter what anyone says I will never consider ai-generated images “art”.
Sadly, a fair number of adults tell their children "I suffered so you should have to also."
Too true people used to be so proud to give their kids better than they had.
Until the rise of robots, people working less means collective suffering.
Entitlement is harmful to society... You don't deserve the products of other people's work unless you have made meaningful contributions to other people's lives also.
Everybody suffers, that is life. Paying your dues in life goes before having success and helps us grow. It is unrealistic expecting to have a life with only the nice part of it.
I remember when Biden tried to fix the college debt situation and how expensive college is but congressmen shot the idea down because "we had to stuffer, younger generations have to also! It's tradition!!" 😅 not all traditions were ever good.
That's literally all humanity. Only the rational empaths would break the vicious cycle.
"You dont like to work!"
Babe, i didn't sit through a bachelors AND a master's just to be overqualified and underexperienced. I WANT to work. I WANT to be useful to the world around me. But i cant even get an interview
Edit: holy crap, y'all are really engaging in the comments. My education is in the environmental field. I believe green jobs are the new frontier and i have a passion for environmental conservation and justice for people wronged by the climate crisis. I am surrounded by many people who are highly educated and occupying necessary and in-demand jobs. Unfortunately, i am facing the unemployment loop of "needing a job for experience/needing experience for a job" and I'm just waiting for that one foot in the door for my life to change. I dont regret the field i chose, but if i had to go back and advise 18-year-old me what to do, i would just say to give yourself options
that often comes down to what the degree is for. not all degrees are created even remotely equal.
@@DellikkilleDIt's pretty universal for most fields today. How old are you?
@@lucyferos205 43, and having dealt with these kids with no work ethic for years, Im over it. And your claim is false. there are a huge surplus of useless degrees, and an excess of limited use ones.
Thanks to the AI that you love and embrace.
@@LadyIarConnacht The tool is not evil, its the companies that make them evil. So companies = evil. Why are companies structured in a communistic and private manner as if its private dictatorship. When we live in Democratic and free country? Shouldn't companies be the same way? democratic and free open. Google Private Goverment this is the whole problem that creates more problems in the long run. It might look in short run that its good and grows the economy, but its the other way around. This 2 words should never be together "Private Goverment" but this is what the companies are now. Hidden communist discatorships.
This goes back awhile. Soviet era Russian joke: "they pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work."
Yep, hence all the communist echo chamber arguments on here.
It’s all coming full circle now.
Then why do the people who lived through soviet russia protest to get it back?
@@arturintete2461 They don't, in fact they are here warning us of how terrible it was. In regards to Russia itself, the really only experienced true democracy for around 8 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Since then, they've been under an authoritarian regime.
@calvinfinney5083 Many Russians would disagree on both ends of that statement.
the most unrealistic part is the boomer actually listening
To be fair, boomers are mostly retiring at this point, hiring managers are usually Gen X.
Nah it's the part where the Gen z'er showed up for a job interview.
@@CrAzYnAdEz ok boomer
@@EpicMuttonChops Exactly!
Not accepting blame?
I hate when older generations say “your generation doesn’t want to work”. I graduated MONTHS ago and have been endlessly applying to jobs. Most of them I get ghosted by and only a handful have gotten back with an actual rejection email. I’ve even talked to one hiring manager for something I got rejected from to ask how I can improve my resume/cover letter and she said it was perfect for my skill level. The older generation as managers don’t want to hire the younger ones and take the time to train them, while also saying that we’re lazy when most of us are actually trying. On top of that, entry level positions aren’t entry level anymore. Tell me why I need 3 years of experience and they prefer a masters degree for the lowest level job in the field I’m trying to get into? That job literally just requires you to do basic data entry and other responsibilities that can be taught in one week, tops. Make it make sense 🙄.
Edit: Honestly, I wrote this when I was feeling bitter and angry. I know that this is just the way things are set up now but to everyone else in a similar situation to me: I hope you’re able to get out of it soon or at the very least, be able to find the optimism in your situation!! I’m trying to do that too :)
I can speak to this a little since I'm currently working in a big huge corporate multinational. It isn't that we don't want to train, it's that we could never get approval to hire someone who is truly entry level at the costs Americans require. If you need someone to work in a call center, you go to the Philippines... if you need IT, you go to India or Poland. if you need general office work, you can go pretty much anywhere. Everything is remote and in shared documents so why hire Americans? It isn't like our educational systems are cranking out people that are far superior anymore. Other countries that Americans used to look down on have been working very hard for the last 30 years to be more competitive on quality not just price.
I only say it when I see someone actually refusing to work right in front of my eyes, in a context I understand inside out and have made repeated attempts to communicate to them in their own terms.
@@RecklessFables I understand that completely, my older sister tells me the same. I’m Canadian but it seems like the job market/economy in general is following similar trends. I just wish that someone would have told us new graduates how tough it really is and how much harder it will be for us before we graduated. I’m not hating individual companies or even “looking down” on other countries (my parents are immigrants), it’s just an annoying situation.
I remember when I first left college and I was trying my hardest to get a job. Everywhere wanted experience. People didn’t help me, they would call me a bum or spoilt
Basically, you have so many competitors that they don't need you. They have the ability to pick and choose whether and how many resources you are allocated to live on, because you are dependent on people in their positions for your livelihood. You and your colleagues have no other options but to get a job or start a company/side hustle (Something like half of new small businesses fail). Additionally, they are not required to hire you, and they are not required to pay you well. There is no systemic safety net to guarantee your livelihood if you live in America.
as a millenial, i'm getting a sense of déjà vu because this is exactly how we were treated. i'm dissapointed to say that a lot of us fell in line to the demands of late stage capitalism.
I hate that we were kicked from both sides. Our generation has had it really terrible too. Everyt time we would start to get up, the world would fall apart. Gen Z hated us even though I agreed with everything they said and stood for. And Gen X just thought we were lazy. I hate watching Gen Z do it to Gen Alpha.
Yeah, we still gotta pay rent
@@DiscordBeing Tale as old as time, unfortunately. I heard recently that, thousands of years ago, when writing & scriptures really started becoming commonplace around the world, older generations often tended to say things along the lines of how this practice will "distract" people too much from the "real work" they should be doing, & that their societies would "collapse" as a result of such.
Now imagine how things would have actually fallen apart if people did stop writing. & that's just one example, honestly. I've heard people say similar things about pretty much anything regarding gaming, cooking, pretty much any sport in general, interior design... etc. There are tons of incredibly well-off people in any of those professions, but even then, ultimately, what really matters is that you're happy & doing what you truly love...
...buuuuuut also you can't really be truly happy if you're living in a financial hell hole & struggling to make ends meet. So unfortunately there are bound to be some things that are out of your control if you're living in a social climate like the one we live in today. But I do really like to think that things are only bound to get better from this. (For context, if it adds any perspective I guess, I'm an "older zoomer" so to speak; aka I'll be 25 this summer lol)
I think the term "late stage capitalism" isnt really correct. Its just capitalism. It works as intended, for the benefit of the capital owning class.
@@DiscordBeing still hate u
My immediate response to people seriously saying "no one wants to work anymore" is:
"No one wants to pay a livable wage anymore." - plain, simple, irrefutable
Indeed. Anyone who thinks any job isn't worth ≥$30 an hour, should enjoy doing it theirself.
If employees need 20% tips to earn a living, the prices & pay should be raised 20%.
"Looks like it was contagious"
No one ever wanted to pay a livable wage. That was never in the plan.
@@namegoeshere8458that’s why the federal government made the minimum wage
It was the bare minimum wage someone could live off of
Therefore it was put in the plans, and needs to be adjusted for inflation like all other modern countries
@@smirkyshadow4152 💯
The funniest part is that both generations are quite depressing in their arguments 🤣
This
What are you doing here Lonrot?! 💀
**hug**
You know, there are people who offer help, for depressed people like you.
Get well soon!
Hey Lonrot
Depressing? More like painfully entitled.
“I don’t.”
As someone applying to jobs, I felt this in my bones.
I'm 100 Job applications strong (heard the threshold was 200, so I need to up my numbers) been ghosted by 95 and the other 5 rejected me with no reason even hen asked. I am even trying in the tech market, ya'know, the one people claim is the most lucrative due to the current economical direction? there is no safe industry and we're all fucked.
@@neilcognitohospitals always need people, including tech people if you haven't already checked them out! That's where I finally found my current job
I don't want to work either. Never wanted to. Do have a job though. And I'm not gen z, but x. That said, that's just me being me. A lot of gen z (and x as well) does not have much motivation to work because it doesn't pay off. It pays your immediate bills, but it's already practically impossible to afford buying a house if you don't have a partner who also works fulltime (or at least part time if you do earn a good amount) and finding a decent partner is harder than before as well. There's all kinds of other issues as well. Basically one of the biggest motivations for work has been mostly taken away... the possibility to work for your future.
@@thenonexistingheroSo TRUE about needing dual income and finding a decent partner
@@neilcognitoNice hustle, but the threshold is in fact above 200.
*Gen Z is reacting accordingly* This is freakishly powerful and observant. I worked with victims of abuse for 8 years - they often used to blame themselves for being a mental wreck...
I used to tell them "Its normal to have an abnormal reaction to abnormal circumstances"
I needed to see that today so thank you 💜
@@madison_kr - go for a walk, what ever it is - a walk will help I promise you !!! 😀
You gotta be crazy to act normally in a crazy world.
@@piccalillipit9211and if one cannot walk? Or going for a walk equals taking the standard pain level of 3, accrued by simply existing to a six or seven, leaves one needing their rescue inhaler and expends what functional energy they can get out of their body in a day? (chronic illness and chronic pain being the reason for the above, for any record... and standard pain scales stop being relevant when existing itself is painful) Not really up for relying on an exhausting walk and hoping it might make anything better when expending that energy to make a meal and maybe (hopefully) take a shower, or at least wash my hair.🫠🥲🥴
With the shite I recently had to deal with, I needed to see that. Thank you! Like a tell people, I will not bare the burden of actions I had no real choice in taking, and being abused doesn't really give you many good choices. . .
No no, they don’t want “our children” to have a better life. They want that for THEIR children.
It’s nepotism all the way down, baby.
@Quixote3 , I see you put the same idea I have. Just want to say, you really know how to see what reality really is! Just want to thank you for your writing!
Spot on
Maybe if Gen Z didn’t cry all day every day about race and gender, this issue would get more attention.
It’s almost like they’re being misdirected…
Not even for theirs
So right. They want THEIR children to have the best life ever and employees children living off crumbs
I like how clever Anna Akana's acting and writing is to talk in a spoiled Gen Z way, but say insightful things that show she is still taking unfair employment wages and housing crises seriously. People want to work, they just do not want to work for less money than they need to make ends meet, so "no one wants to work anymore" is usually only a half-truth used to mask the other half of that statement that is a lie.
Oh hi it's nice to meet another Amphibia fan here. I discovered Anna through her voice acting as Sasha Waybright lol
Agreed. People are willing to work, if it benefits them and they can progress forward. It's exploitation they are against.
"No one wants to work" is what employers say when they feel entitled to employees. It makes them sound more entitled that any other generation of bosses I've ever heard. No one is obligated to work for you and you sound like an asshole whining about how you can't get employees. Hm. Maybe instead of whining you should offer competitive pay and benefits. Give your prospective employees a reason to come work for your VS some other employer.
Is it a spoiled Gen Z way? Or is it the way someone sick of being blamed for "EVERYONE ELSE'S BULLSHIT" talks?
And I say this as a GEN-Xer.
@@Satsujinki1973honestly I think its so extremely warranted, especially rn, seeing as gen z's favorite app is being taken away for being "too effective at grabbing attention" while they are still playing catch-up to youtube, the communication or lack their of between generations is frighting and its already started to cut into peoples rights
I'm a late Gen Xer. This really made me think about the "no one wants to work" thing. Regular jobs have gotten really sh**ty thanks to management/owners/stockholders exploiting their workers way beyond reason.
Exactly! Thank you!
Welcome to capitalism
Lol way beyond reason like theres a reasonable amount of exploitation. Not a criticism to you, just funny wording.
I am early Gen X. Dude kids today have it easy. We didn't have remote work before 45. We got written up for being more than 7 minutes late for work and got fired for being more than 7 1/2 minutes late (when ADP rounds the hours during the clock in) 3 times per year! We didn't make 100k salaries fresh out of school! Yes prices for apartments have gone up considerably! I am not unsympathetic to young people.
But where do we draw the line? Yes the shareholders should dictate only the top performs can work from home as not everyone can. Yes India and other places should be considered for labor as they work harder and are happy to put in 60 hours a week when a critical project is needed. The last sentence I am sure triggered some readers but it is true. Our generation is happy to put in the hours to get ahead.
Younger folks need to realize too that a college degree is not final destination and finish line for a 200k a year job. You start at $15/hr like we did and work your way up and keep educating and certifying yourself. It takes 20 years to get to the top after pouring blood and sweat. Sorry Gen Z but results and no gaps on your resume and sticking with your employers matter. Employers have a right also to want the best deal just like you. Someone who sticks around 2 to 5 years means they don't have to rehire.
Call me a bootlicker all you want but reality is reality. HR has the power and if you make yourself exception get your certs after school and put in the hours and impress people doors slowly will open over time.
I'm right there with you, bub. For the record, Gen-Z didn't invent this perception/attitude as any Gen-Xer will tell you. If anything, Gen-Z learned from their Gen-X parents, who planted the seeds of dissent because...yeah...we saw the writing on the wall. Obviously, the difference is the internet-amplified, visceral reactions and the fact that Gen-X was small and lucky enough to "get into the system" before it became REALLY difficult...but trust us, Gen-X has been fighting the actual Boomers for quite some time now who lived under the "Greatest Generation" mentality of their parents.
I wish i had the confidence of this gen z applicant. Most of my Millennial generation entered the work force as a recession started and still got blamed for being lazy by the generation who ruined tanked the economy. Sorry we couldn't afford to buy homes at a fair price while we were in Middle School...
YES
Dude your entire life is a continuous bull market. 2008 was a blip at this point.
@@Bav92 lmao, for investors. How much of that has been shared with the people actually making the company function (the employees)?
@@Bav92 The state of Texas laid off 76,000 teachers in 2011, the largest teacher layoff in Texas history. The Great Recession was much further reaching than just a blip of 2008.
In middle school I was still watching Lizzie Maguire and trying to figure out how to afford Abercrombie and Fitch.
A housing crisis was the least of my worries.
0:30 EVERY job interview is a negotiation, do not forget that and get the hiring manager to sign your copy of the contract with corrections 😊
Totally agree! Corporations often forget that the interviewee is interviewing them just as much as they are. Goes both ways.
true but you have to be realistic as well. a business might take a chance but if you say am worth x, you will have to prove it. example - many business are doing flexible hours for office workers now, the expectation is that they still get work done. if you ask for flexible hours but you abuse it or use it to work less, then don't be surprised if you are fired. Same thing with overtime, many companies will say outright we can't pay overtime so once your shift (8hrs) is done go home. If you then do over time and say where is my pay that is on you for not listening to them when they said they can't pay and to go home.
@@kapasitorcpt9249woosh. It went over your head 😂
I mean, you're not wrong, but I don't think anyone was arguing against any of that initially. The majority of people understand that if you abuse the stuff the company gives you, it either gets taken away or the employee(s) get fired. @@kapasitorcpt9249
The point is that it's a negotiation
The phrase "Nobody wants to work." should always be accompanied by "at that wage."
This clash of generations is actually quite sad to me. It's so clear that the capitalistic system has all exploited us in different ways, taking advantage of each's gen socio-politcal contexte to do it. We should stand together for a better future, not apart.
Young people got more in common with old people than they got with rich people.
I wish more people understood this.
it's because of lateral violence. Many Boomers use relative power (due to having access to generational wealth, status as a community member and elder, higher positions within the workforce, etc) to exploit their younger coworkers, community members, and family. Standing together would require many Boomers to let go of the idea that they are perfect beings and genuinely make efforts to improve their workplaces, communities, and families for the greater good. That would require listening to constructive criticism and resource sharing. The boomer generation holds over 70% of all wealth in America right now.....those under 40 have 7%....Remember those with money tend to be more conservative? Boomers are the largest voting block right now, and we've seen waves of extreme conservatism nearing Neo-Nazism at times. It is not a coincidence. They voted for things that helped them, then voted against them once it started benefiting their stock portfolios and house appreciation values.
That is why many in Gen Z have taken an unapologetic stance ...previous generations being kind about these differences in 'ideology' hasn't done anything to fix climate change, the workforce, or abuse in family systems. It has just emboldened many older people to continue passing the buck and using lateral violence to cope instead of dealing with the root cause of these issues and changing things so we all enjoy a better society instead of whatever crap show this is.
So yeah, absolutely we need to stand together...but that's not gonna happen when older gens don't want to do their part in fixing the mess they created.
This is precisely what is going on, they are dividing us so we get distracted with squabbles, and not get along.
Younger ones can learn to not be so dismissive of older gens as well.@@thepanda9782
I asked my younger cousins why they didn't work at stores or restaurants or something. They told me it is really difficult to get a job in those places and you'd be lucky to get one. I know they are telling the truth because they are not lazy. When I was a teenager in the 2000s, most of my friends had jobs after school. It was not difficult at all to get a job in fast food.
This is similar to the boomer situation. The have no idea how hard it is out there. I listen to their stories and it amazes me how chill it was when they started out. They just graduate and boom work at a prestigious institutions. They didn't even knowing what those places did. In 5 years, they were Senior Partner or VP. Quite unbelievable compared to today. Today, if you graduate from Harvard or Stanford, you are not even guaranteed an interview.
Many old people think 2000 was yesterday, but things have changed.
Not to mention that if you have a degree of some sort, it closes many doors because you're OVERqualified for many positions. When I first got my BA it was the height of the recession and I tried to get jobs working in Fast Food, but they figured I would just jump ship the instant I got another job offer from some corporation and thus wouldn't hire me. I was too qualified for minimum wage, but too inexperienced for anything else.
ehrm, restaurants are desperately hiring all the time, but the current generation can not(on average) handle the job. 1 out of 20 (ish) make it. at simple tasks like seating guests or washing dishes. This was at a place where we paid both hosts and dish washers 19 an hour.
@@DellikkilleD😂 fan fic, nice one
Basta, not long ago I clashed with a boomer online, that said that she also had to "endure hardship" to get a job. Such hardship? Waking up very early ONE SINGLE MORNING to get in a line for applications to get a job. She got the job in one day of search, stayed in it for life, bought everything needed. AND SHE CONSIDERED HERSELF A SUFFERER
Absolutely. If anything, I wish Gen Z would quietly quit more radically. I'm a high school teacher, and, honestly, the world we are giving these kids makes me embarrassed to welcome them into it. I always encourage them to just not accept this BS. I don't judge them at all. We gave them how many traumas and a cost of lviing crisis that you work to death in? Yeah, I'm pissed as a millenial. I don't blame them for opting out.
Exactly, also just how many of them had to miss out on a normal life because of Covid. Those kids are smart and resourceful. I’m just a baby millennial but I can realize I have it way better than gen Z and alpha. I realize in school I had hope of a good job and a home. I did manage to get those things. I wouldn’t be able to if I tried again today. I’ll sadly miss out on having kids but then again I’d want to bring children into a world I felt they had a chance in.
What do you and your education colleagues have to offer young people?
There will bever be enough words to describe how much I hate this world for making me deal with so much insane bullshit that wasn't my fault and blaming me for not being okay.
You sound like a terrible teacher
whats going on. I'm 40 and I haven't meant one Gen z kid like this in the office. They are always so hard working and just over stress everything. The most I can say is that they need to be more brave in doing stuff on their own.
I have a few gen z’s in my office. One got caught sleeping by our CEO and fired. The second had a chronic issue where he called in sick 3x per week. The third is still here, he doesn’t really know how to hold a normal conversation but other than that he’s willing to learn.
Your company probably does a pretty good job on screening new employees and know how to filter out those who aren't disciplined. T
Because most aren’t actually like that, this is satire meant to portray how the broader gen X and boomers are making them out to be.
Parents educate them. Blame parents.
It’s the boomers in the office I have issues with they’re so bitter and refuse to retire yet everyone including supervisors have to walk on eggshells around them
“Don’t you want a better life for your children?”
“No, I just want more money.”
Look, as a former immigrant to the US, we're constantly told we had to change and adapt to the US and its culture and ways of doing things. Because it's the new way, the modern way and the right way. And then we're told by those same people that they can't learn new things. If my grandparents, one of which ran from the communists during the communist revolution and the other lived through the Japanese occupation of Taiwan, learned how to use the computer, boomers can learn how to use a smart phone.
Most do know, let's not generalize. I have seen Gen Z who barely can navigate Google and do research properly, doesn't mean it is all of them so there is an example.
@@vaderladylThis isn't a "One side can't do it, the other side can." situation. This is a "You've been alive long enough and it's been around long enough. If you don't know how, that's on you."
But also
Boomer: Young kids these days doing their dances and eating avocado toast!
Young kids: Okay boomer
Boomer: Don't generalize!
Like, I was an immigrant. Do you know how often we were generalized? But the moment the other side gets even a faint whiff of their own medicine, it's "Oh no! Don't do that! That's not right!"
@@sleepingkirby Well, you started with the comment generalizing about boomers, I responded back in kind. Fair is fair. Don't want to be generalized , don't do it yourself.
I am a woman and a foreigner, I also know about generalizations, so I don't use them.
@@vaderladylAgain, this isn't a "one side does it so the other didn't." I didn't say you generalized. So I don't know what you think fair is fair. And if you think boomers first generalized, we generalized in respond, that somehow justify the initial generalization, boy? Boy, you must be such a Karen.
What do you mean "don't do it yourself"? It's not doing me any harm. Not any more than the newspapers about avocado toast or not saving for a house or "Millennials are ruining the industry." It certainly hasn't hurt the boomers, how would it hurt us? Seriously, that's not a rhetorical question. Boomers have, through their willful ignorance, complacency in passing on the very abuses they suffered, have done more than alright despite generalizing. And, often at times, it seems that generalization has benefited them. So, Ms. foreigner women. So please, I implore you, explain to me why generalization is a bad thing that I shouldn't do?
But also, I've seen maybe a minuscule few gen Z that maybe can't navigate to a search bar. But I use to work in tech support for a hosting company and a cell phone provider. The VAST MAJORITY of our calls where we literally have to explain what to click on just to open a browser page were boomers. My favorites were the ones that call and go "I'm not talking on the device I'm calling from." And then I go "Okay (knowing that isn't true), I need you to restart your phon--." *call drops immediately*. So, yes, I'm going to generalize. Because you don't go "That water in the glass is 0.003% minerals so I'm not going to generalize and call it water."
Let me also emphasize something. My initial statement isn't about boomers not knowing how to use a smartphone. It's a statement how they're UNWILLING to learn how to use a smartphone.
you got some history in your blood, i assume both chinese?
I really felt the "why do you want this job?" "I don't" because, yeah. This is not the job I wanted but I don't have any other options, but I ALSO NEED MONEY!! LIKE HELLO????
Grandpa didn't leave me his farm so now I've got to work for Joja
Xennial here and I’ve always wondered why “because I need money” isn’t an acceptable answer. 😂 Maybe you do admire the company/organization and the work they do, maybe you’re one of those types who find work fulfilling/enjoyable somehow, but end of the day? “Money” is the only fully truthful answer for why any of us apply to and accept jobs.
"Nobody wants to work anymore!"
Not for a wage that makes us have to decide between either homeless or starving with how prices are rising. Nobody "wants" to work, not even the older generation. We NEED to work, not want to. Of course, being choosy is bad; but it has to cover the bare minimum needs for living, otherwise there is no point.
Thank you for bringing up the bleakness of both perspectives fairly.
And a bunch of people are still applying for jobs that don’t give them enough to live off of, but companies will still just pass them by and ignore skilled workers and post on Twitter how “the younger generation is so lazy because I didn’t want to accept any of the 3,000 applications I got!”
How is being choosy bad?! It is our human birthrite to live how we want to live! No government shall hold us back financially!
It’s more like no one wants to hire or train. Literally got a job through a temp agency and was let go on the second day without an explanation. I hate it here man😭
The same thing happened to me!
“This isn’t a negotiation” is the power fantasy showing.
They don’t want employees, they want desperate worker-bees.
im someone who recently graduated with a bachelor's and applied to 20 jobs and i still felt defeated... I feel sorry for everyone who is/was job searching for 2+ years
With a PhD from an Ivy League in the US I applied to 200 jobs, got two interviews, and one offer. It’s sadly a numbers game nowadays, and it has to be played if you want to get a job without knowing someone.
No contacts even from your high value high priced school couldn't help you?@@amv240 What did you pay for then?
Oh, I am sorry sweet summer child, I for example apply to 60 jobs in 1 day when I am searching for a job and on average I get like 1 positive answer for 100 applications. Now I have bachelor degree in law and I worked part-times as customer care representative throught my studies, still I am mostly hired into this low-entry level jobs, thats it (5 years in Customer care jobs, with stellar statistics). Change finally came last year/this year (I am 27 now) when I got hired on 8.1. 24 as tax associate in 1 of the "big 4" companies, Suffice to say, I am extremely happy, as I have actually less work and better pay, even tho I work overtimes a lot, etc. its extreme upgrade as now I earn 250 euros more(850 to 1100) (I am form Slovakia - Europe)
What is your PhD for?
A lot of this is on parents for not seeing through the college scam. The job market is always going to come down to the actual value you can offer in a specific role. A bachelors is no guarantee you can do anything close to that.
College is and has been a scam for 80% of students for decades now. Only a small amount of majors make sense.
Early Gen-X here, and I have to say I have such immense admiration for Gen Z for not putting up with the abuse that corporations have loaded unto employees for too long. I've always felt the way you do, but when I pointed out the abusive tactics I received huge retaliation and no-one was brave enough to stand up to them with me. Hell, I got made fun of just for asking for a stand-up desk when they weren't a thing yet. I endured it for decades, and hated every minute of it. I finally ended up telling my last employer that things had to change because it was just too much, but instead they attempted to make a fool of me for speaking up and ignored my request to lessen the load. With that I ended up having a mental breakdown because I couldn't take it anymore. and quit the company. I finally quit the corporate world and never looked back. If they don't have employees to do their sh*t-work, then hopefully they'll learn their lesson and instead begin to treat people better in the future. Huge respect to Gen Z for not having it, huge. 🙌
Oh no they'll just leave. In the Netherlands some big corporations are already threatening to leave because the gouvernement killed the tax benefits for expats.
“The hiring budget is always higher than the retention budget.”
They’ll dangle a promotion over your head, then fire you in an eventual round of layoffs because it’s cheaper and easier to exploit new hires who are bright-eyed and desperate to prove themselves rather than build the career of people who are already getting frustrated with their exploitation exceeding the value of their pay. They burn you out and toss you aside. You are disposable, so why not treat jobs that way? :( cynical and disheartening vibes out here.
It’s so depressing it makes any foray back into job searching all the more intimidating, because there’s no guarantee of stability and no room to really become a part of something (which is a basic human psychological need).
Many people started shitting on Gen Z for being dysfunctional, self-centered yaddi yaddi yadda.. but
1. they didn't raise themselves but were raised by their parents and society
2. they got exactly the right attitude to not let themselves be screwed over by the people in power aka. boomers
I for myself wish them all the luck.
idk about other gen-zers but I raised myself in a single parent household.. I quite literally learned everything by myself so I wouldnt end up in the same ditch.
Who EVER ended up the way their parents raised them? We all rebelled against our parents.
Remember kids, destroying your body working 50 years for some faceless corporation who never so much as remembered your birthday is noble and worthy.
I've seen it summed up as: "In five years, the only ones that will remember all that overtime you put in are your family."
Hiring and training employees is expensive. So when they lay of a thousand of them at once and then hire new staff a year later it costs them a lot of money. So they feel put upon by the employee for having the audacity to ask for more money. But they could have avoided the whole situation by keeping employees on at reduced hours or not expecting constant growth for their shareholders and just calling a year a wash.
The biggest issue right there. Constant growth for shareholders and dividends ruin huge portions of the market how many dramas do we see where companies do lay-offs while still doing record profits anything to keep the books in the green with a minimum of +2%
If a CEO doesn't perform for shareholders they get replaced. Capitalism is flawed and it might be the worst system out there, except for all the other ones.
@DigSamurai
It's not a binary choice. There are no "capitalist" countries, because every country has socialist aspects of its economy and interferes with the economy to some extent. There is no example of pure capitalism or a completely free market.
The question is how many socialist policies should we have and how much should government intervene? The problem is that we're getting this question wrong.
Love this. I'm Gen X and totally on board with the interviewee. When I go to job interviews, I am interviewing them, and that isn't nearly normalized enough. It's going to take Boomers a bit to get used to this switch because they have been brainwashed into believing they are powerless, and want to perpetuate the cycle because they don't know any better. It's time to change the narrative and I'm so glad Gen Z is taking this to task.
I keep saying that though: why are we giving AI the art?
Because it makes buying art cheaper, and selling art more profitable. :)
Because the difference between AI art and human art isn't worth the price difference. Human art will become a luxury good the same way handmade furniture is, as compared to IKEA.
When AI can drive a garbage truck or deliver mail as easily as a human, we'll use it for that too.
@@willythemailboy2Ironically the capitalists' insistence on a car culture has made it necessary to drive garbage trucks in the first place. But at least they have an idea of how to solve their own problems (and as usual, impoverish most people in the process).
WE could do something about it by rising up against it, but we let the tech nerds, who dont know ish about creative work, ruin it all. We are really good at complaining online and be loud in comment sections (me included), but we never do anything! You will see more people on the actual streets protesting for men to be let into womens changerooms, than people demanding laws against art theft and the destruction of the job market.
A job near me had 44 applicants. Through a connection of mine, I found out that this company had: 6 internal applicants and; they only offered 6 interview slots. I was 7th in line. :)
amazing dialogue!
I relate to both sides, and this reflexion made me empathyze so much with gen Z. It's like they received a ruined, comdemned, hopeless reality world, without even the chance to dream of a better future.
Must be tough.
The sad thing is this is true of most Gen Xers, too. They also espouse the same attitude and manners as Boomers and Silent Generations. My Gen X boss worked through a serious medical emergency that landed them in the ER, even though their millennial direct reports (me and others) said they should take the week off. All the Gen X folks I worked with are workaholics with no real private life. Emailing at midnight, then working again at 5 a.m., another "I just remembered" email at 5 p.m., etc.--they're not helping the cause at all to undo the irrational entry-level expectations for younger generations and the extreme working hours.
That is the American way of life actually. Other countries are not like that including all generations.
Extreme working hours are normal.
I'm a gen Z and I would expect anyone I work with to work most of the time with little time off.
@@Wild4lon No they bloody aren't. You simply think they are because it's the only thing you have ever known. Wake up mate, because extreme hours are not normal in the bloody slightest.
If salary doesn't pay for the cost of living to work in the job then yeah I'm becoming a youtuber.
How was this ever a missunderstanding?
So who is going to do the important jobs like doctors, teachers, lawyers, policemen and so on?
@@vaderladylwho’s going to pay them properly so that there’s no incentive to drive folks to those careers outside of their moral compass?
@@vaderladylyou think people should do those jobs even when they aren’t making enough to live off of?? No.
Ok how are doctors, lawyers and such not getting paid well? You are not getting my point@@Jessica-ch1yi
I am talking about the important jobs that are already well paid. Who are going to do those if every one wants to be a youtuber@@Jasondurgen
the most unrealistic part is the HR person not looking at the kid for 2 seconds in silence and then just saying "have a nice day... NEXT"
Anna has pure gold here. This GenXer was born in 1970 when a starting salary of 20k/yr was around the same price as a starter home. We all need to REALLY listen to the Millennials and Zoomes who just want the same deal we did or they are going to find a solution that will benefit nobody in the long run. btw, "boss-Anna" does have some points too. Respect-2-Anna.
We can't expect companies to fix this. It has to be the people and an actually democratic government.
I'm a millennial and a huge part of the reason I'm in therapy now is that I can't find a job, or afford a place of my own to live. I majored in STEM can't pay my student loans. My thinking keeps taking me back to the obscene wealth inequality we have today. No more billionaires OR Corporations valued over one billion dollars is as far as my thinking takes me.
Who do you think owns the government?
As long as lobbyists can buy politicians, it _is_ the companies that will have to fix this.
Vote, sure, but don't think that is enough. You need to set up social structures yourself. Get about a hundred people together and you should have enough hands and brains to cover basically all required skills to have an independent (not isolated though!) and stable society. Then support each other in as many ways possible. The more you support each other, the less dependent you are on government or business, so the more power you have when negotiating with them. This gives tons of options, working as much as you want is one of the mayor benefits. If at all possible get a derelict block or plot of land and build houses, that should allow your community to massively reduce the living costs for its members. With as added benefit that living in the same street increases social cohesion automatically.
@@bramvanduijn8086The problem with that is if you think the corporations and the government they own are gonna *allow* something like that... I get you mean well, but that is gloriously naieve.
Get a community together yeah. But then arm them. You won't be left alone unless you can *make* them to leave you alone. And sometimes that means making sure they aren't around to be a problem.
@@SkySong6161 Congratulations, you have created a gang. But seriously, once gangs become large enough and are forced to actually manage their people and territory, they become sovereign nations in their own way.
I'm gen x. Wages are stagnant and do not reflect the price of rent, food, or utilities. That's a fact Jack!
Yes and they were the same before you were born. Some die others live, facts of life kid
OK, Boomer.
@@bh5826Objectively wrong, average wages before a Gen X'er was born could easily keep up with the cost of living. If you think otherwise you don't understand basic math.
I'm old (54). Things are much worse now than when I started working. Fight for your rights.
I don't know what to say. Living as a relatively young individual currently is slowly draining my will to live where the question I ask myself is not if I want out of a bad situation, but whether I want to participate in a society that is as abusive as ours.
Both the Mystic and the Troll asked themselves the same question.
I had older relatives who complained I wasn't working after I quit my job to go to college.
Then complained that I quit college to work a 9-5 (it was a good white collar job).
I would be winning if I moved out when I had the chance in 2021 😂
Gen X here: its been a corporate dystopia for a lot longer than you guys know. We were talking about this when I was in my early twenties-we just didn’t do it online where it’s hyper visible.
Are corporations more corrupt than they used to be? No. Wealthy people have always wanted to profit from people with less without balancing the scales in return.
The only difference is that there’s less oversight and less regulation and corporations are allowed to form conglomerates that form monopolies that get away with price gouging and driving inflation. And it all got worse because of the policies that the Reagan administration started passing.
This is much bigger than jobs and housing, guys. It starts in laws and politics. Reagan deregulated a ton of industries-essential removing government oversight that allowed for record profits because of record bouts of taking advantage. When people blame the boomers, this is absolutely what they mean.
If you want to want a job that’s paying a livable wage at a (realistic) entry level and the chance for affordable housing, run for office and/or vote blue. Corporations will not regulate themselves, and the super wealthy will always value money over people-thinking like this is how they became super wealthy in the first place, after all.
Honest politicians who aren’t business-first are the only way to balance these scales. (Beware even the democrats who claim to be business-centered; that’s code for “I care about people as long as it doesn’t damage profits”). My parents had better lives because they had better laws, and better ways to enforce them, and for no other reason.
The world my Baby Boomer parents entered the job market in was very different from what Millennials and Gen Z are facing now. The cost of living alone makes the 2020s and, say, the 1970s not really comparable. Baby Boomers weren't paying over half their net income to rent a one bedroom apartment like I'm doing now. I'm making $40k a year and just getting by. For me to live comfortably just as a single person (forget about having a wife and kids), I'd probably have to make $60k a year.
Try 70K. Im making about 60k and still working through it
@@jessmith7324 You're probably right. The funny thing about that for me is that the owners of the apartment complex where I live have a so-called "affordable" rent option (which is not what I would call affordable, but I digress) for people making less than $62k a year. They're basically saying that if you make less than $62k, you must be struggling financially. That's wild to me. Just 15 years ago, anything approaching $62k would have been an awesome salary as a single person.
@@jessmith7324 Depends on where you live, in Wyoming it's cheap AF to live, but in NYC and LA and Chicago, where the work is? Oof, 70k is enough in meh to bad neighborhoods. My college town of 120k it's rare to find any property under 500k. I would say the median is between 600 and 700k, meaning 70k is 1/10th the price of the MEDIAN house. Absolutely INSANE, especially with these interest rates.
@@Pistolita221 True. Big cities and college towns are the most expensive because capitalism. Also too, big cities anywhere in the world tend to be most expensive. London is in top 5 I think
@@jessmith7324 Indeed, even in the East, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Toyko, and I'm sure India will create a city comparably expensive, as well as Africa. Cairo and Lagos are beginning the climb.
I love how we younger people are such pros at setting boundaries and calling things out for what they are.🙌🏻
I love that " nobody wants to work " comment. That's what greedy owners say all the time. People want to work for decent pay so they can afford to live.
People also want legal contracts with no loopholes.
And the greedy owners? There is no chance they will change their ways. Instead, they will try to employ foreigners from countries with worse economies and get away with paying them less, especially when the foreigners don't speak the country's language.
“Nobody wants to work!”
Did you expect us to? Who wants to spend a third of their life being forced to do things for other people?
"and that's how a doomer schools a boomer, follow me 😘"
It's too early for me to be laughing this hard 😂
Ive spent so little money on myself these past years that to hear somebody say i live beyond my means is demonstrating their ignorance.
Oh, and yes, i do know how to use a fax machine. I also know how to work hard and work well - and will happily do so if compensated appropriately.
As a boomer, I have agreed with the position of Gen Z long before generations were given ridiculous f'ing compartmentalized labels in what is actually a fluidic reality (babies are not born in blocks of years). But, simple minds think simple.
The best answer/gift I can give you all, read/listen to Robert Sapolsky's Determined: A Science of Life Without Free Will.
Don't stop fighting the programming of your elders.
I'd caution against sharing academic books. Those are turning into capitalist ways for them to generate money by appealing to certain people. Why do school books cost $300? It's supposed to be real education and it's not. Even these small little books.
This is not an academic book, just a book written by a professor and it costs very little@@gardenwonder7977
Libraries.
I love how gen Z is portrayed very comically but still says things which make a valid point 🤭
Nailed it! Most people know this is the reality yet refuse to acknowledge it because that would mean changing their world view and yet I've experienced heaps of people questioning the way I choose to live my life as it's not the predefined path of following societal bullshit, instead it's a gradual building of my own business to work for myself so I don't have to deal with the unnecessary drama of what is offered to us.
I’ve been legit saying this, AI and automation is only an issue because we’re living in a society where we all have to work long hours for extremely little. With automation we should embrace it and allow ourselves to work less as technology picks up the slack, we only works sake anyways.
My GenX co-worker always running around with her head cut off always asking me do you want to switch places like it's freaky Friday. I'm like no mainly bc of her boomer boss takes a two minute phone call and turns into a ten minute one, I use my vacation time to actually go on vacation and 9hrs at work twice a week waiting for email responses.
Elder millennials and I still don't know how to give myself space at a company. And I'm better at it than most gen x and older that I know. So, power to you. I hope to learn from your work type some day.
Gen Z is figuratively giving the middle finger to the corporate exploitative behaviours.
I dont think they will win. Corporations will imo. They are already automating as much as possible, order gens will be workong there still and probs being paid higher as younger gens dont want to join
@@katpizm
Older gens will be working because they won't be bothered by bad salaries and overworking. That's been the trend of what corporates have been doing to obedient people.
The brilliance of this bit is that both sides are correct - and that is the conundrum we are facing collectively.
People say "children are hooked on those phones" as if their parents weren't the ones who bought their kids phones and tablets to replace parent-child time.
She had me at " I need to make 3x the amount" because it's not a joke.
btw, polls in different countries regularly show that there are almost no people who would like to work more for proportional increase in salary. it's not that most people don't want to work, they just can't reliably handle more work.
Yes! Terrible pay is only half the equation, the other half is that young people saw what workaholic burnout did to their parents (and, consequentially, their entire families) and are saying “no. I don’t want that. I know my limits and I’m not willing to self-destruct in a futile effort to break those limits. Sure, I COULD do that, but I’d rather live life instead of merely exist. I work to live, not live to work.”
A "proportional increase in salary" is a misnomer - wages have not kept up with inflation by a long shot, so why let an employer rip them off even more? For most folks that have worked for the same employer for 5 years with no adjustment, a 20% increase STILL puts them at less than what they made when they were hired if you assume a (conservative) 4% inflation rate each year. Employers like to complain that "no one wants to work", when it really should be "no one wants to work for a 2-3% pay cut every year".
I need to make 3x the amount to qualify! Thank you for saying that, I’ve been trying to tell my job this. I joined the military to help with the cost of living and they want me to provide for myself but are not paying me the amount I need to survive. And they keep telling me it’s my fault. So I felt seen with this. I’ve been working on my housing situation for the last 6 months and my paperwork for it has not gone through. I know it’s going to get resolved but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been stressful.
Live on base then? Army pay is famously low. They make up for that by having you live on base.
@@DiscordBeing I made rank quick and wasn’t prepared to move off base financially and now I’m being forced too. But they are not give me BAH or basic allowance for housing so I don’t make enough to afford an apartment off the base and because of a “policy” change they wouldn’t route my paperwork till I get a lease but no one will lease me because I don’t make 3x as much on my basic pay. If they gave me the housing allowance then I could afford. But they’re forcing me out without giving me the allowance and I can’t afford to live off base.
Someone would say roommate and yeah but in the military personal space is not a thing and I’d like to just have my own place to come home too. But hey that’s enough bitching.
@@pluglife7381You should include your BAH & BAS pay in your application even if you haven't received it yet. If a leasing office ask for pay stubs as proof, I would also bring whatever documents stating you WILL be receiving BAH & BAS to explain why it isn't reflected in the given evidence.
Honestly both made good points. The Boomer's mini rant at half time was spot on
definitely some valid points from both arenas. but the one that REALLY stands out is the doing repetitive tasks when we have automation, and WHY NOT all be artists, why does AI get that?? -automation saves companies money. the workers never see it. and the workers do not get an upgrade like more time off or shorter work week. we've been doing this same pace for DECADES, despite improvements in technology. AND there should be some laws in place to let some of that profitability come back to the workers. we ARE struggling with the financial crisis, housing crisis, and all sorts of things. GREED of the few will destroy the many.
Once more for the people in the back: "Automation saves companies money. the workers never see it. "
It depends on the automation. I worked for a software company that provided a tool for centralization and management of "batch" and scripted tasks. The licensing cost of just 1 task was about half the salary of a regular worker. There is a cost of implementation to any of these things - The company has to pay a programmer to create and test the task. It also has to maintained as the base software and hardware gets updated and upgraded. These things break ALL the time. Don't get me wrong where I'm coming from. Companies should invest more in their infrastructure and employees rather than their C-Suite. CEOs' salaries have risen over 1000% in the past 45 years. The ratio of CEO to avg worker pay has gone from ~40-1 to 400+-1. Although the latest data is showing that in the past 5 years this has dipped to ~250-1, so progress... I guess?
“Fine.”
“I’ll do it myself.”
The Indie Game market is booming.
And I’m a goddamn ICBM.
"no one wants to work" really means "no one wants to work for 20 year old wages but modern day cost of living."
"You can't even use a fax machine!"
"Well you can't use a cotton gin, what's your point?"
I'm gen X and I am thankful for these gen Z kids. They actually bring balance. I've noticed that most of them are willing to do good work, or at least be taught. However, they don't want to be abused. As more of them enter the workforce, employers just have to be smarter about whom they choose as managers. I have very good luck getting gen Z kids to do good work.
Never been prouder of a collective group of people🥲
Don’t forget how businesses are foregoing degree requirements as an excuse to pay you even less money! They really could not care less about the average person, that’s why we need regulation laws to protect workers and consumers!!
Omg excuse me I didn't see the line outside for this position 😂🤣
ok someone heard that not just me. Great line.
There was this bearded dude who published a book on 1848 about how these problems would arise and what we should do. And this other Russian balding dude who wrote even more books on the matter. I think we should take a look at those and, maybe, you know,... Unite.
Yeah and he was a loser, whose ideas lead to the deaths of millions of people
@robnask, I agree with what you say. Reading history going back to 1800's is really good! Thanks for your historical Approach. I really like historical approaches to issues in society.
And that same bearded dude saw how his ideas were being used and had completely rejected them by the time he died.
No, because after they "united" they got exploited by an even worse system than what we have today. And I'm not defending our crapitalist system, not at all. But hoooo boy you don't want to go down that road either. At this point just seek God and accept that everything humans set up, collapses.
Haha and the society built on the ideas of said dudes birthed the "they pretend to pay us, while we pretend to work" joke referenced a few comments up.
"Do you have any idea what I sacrificed to make your life easier!?"
"Life doesn’t come that easy, what, you think you can fly by life?"
Wtf, Pick a side!
caught the adult calling herself a child
"You dont want to work!"
I dont want to work at a job that is going to kill me
Meanwhile, me and the rest of Gen-X are still like "What🙄ever!"
You mean you're not filling the molotovs so these kids can be the light they want to see in the world?
The irony of them calling us lazy, when most of them aren't willing to train fresh grads anymore and entry level positions require multiple years of experience😂
All of that was also said about Gen-Xers as well. We were also called lazy, slackers, accused of not wanting to work, etc.
I love how Anna shows views from both sides. And it is interesting seeing the kind of children that one generation produces which then in turn creates another different one thereafter.
The mandatory overtime and understaffing.. This can't just be me, has to be happening to others as well..
It's in nearly every employment sector. Corpos don't want to pay a fair wage and aren't willing to hire on with these restrictions. They'd rather outsource employment or make a handful of compliant workers take on more responsibility and work with little to no increase in pay.
Don't lay it on the boomers. Their parents had the exact same expectations of them. You weren't around in the '60s, didn't see the hippies, the protests against the Vietnam war, civil rights. Gen Zers don't have a monopoly on activism. They just have the internet, and so can band together into a group a lot easier.
That being said, I do have high hopes that the young generation can change things enough so that corporate America loses its stranglehold on the country, the western world, and the politicians.
Yeah, they think we didn't have struggles and all was honky dory for every single member of the Boomers and the Gen X.
@@vaderladylwe know y’all had struggles, every generation has its own struggles. The infuriating part is that so many boomers don’t want to acknowledge the struggles our generation has to face now, and the reasons those struggles exist.
@@vee1267 The problems lie entirely with gen x. They created and voted for this mess, raising their kids to do exactly the same...
@@Digger-Nick at no point has gen x ever been a majority of the voting population, and in the current business economic world gen x only just started gettimg into high business, political, and cultural leadership in the last decade.
We are still in the world that has been envisioned by the boomers; that being said the world envisioned by gen x seems even worse somehow
Y'know, I totally see how that would make you think that that is a counter argument.
To demonstrate what's really going on I will use me as an example.
Us Gen Z are inheriting a jack awful setting. The world might come to an end, the world might go to war again, people are starving. Let's say that we had the chance to get into positions of power, or that we had the time or money to make decisions. We would be a bad generation if we not only didn't stop climate change, but FURTHERED it's spread. Us doing that at this point in time would seal the fate of the planet. That would make our children hate us, truly. Much more than Gen Z dislike you right now. We're on the chopping block just as you as soon as we get into positions of power, which won't be for a long time.
All of the decisions affecting the state of the world right now are mostly impacted by the Boomers. It's not a sympathy game, is a, "who has the opportunity to decide?" Game. People your age are shills, their greedy, they hate the younger generation. Of course, most boomers do not, because it's obviously also about class divide. Rich/high middle class boomers think in those ways, not you.
It's not about who has it worse, it's about who has the opportunity to make decisions.
I feel like the people who accused the younger generation of not wanting to work, are the same ones pushing (now) useless collage degrees.
I am an older millennial and I am not any different honestly :D. I mean I don't care for social media and all that, but regarding the work landscape I couldn't agree more.
The AI portion is so well said. Why does AI get the art? It's wild when it can open up so much room to a shift job market of creative-based jobs. Life CAN be that way if AI was used as a tool designed to help us not take the craft away from us.
The first generation to have access to psychologists articles on the internet ❤
Great Stuff, as always!
Gen Z is not a generation that will work a full-time job, buy a home, have a stable home life, and live comfortable and balanced work and pleasure until we retire and live off a pension till we die in our sleep. Unfortunately, it is on us to create that for the next generation. I have so much motivation and willingness to work, but I will not give that to huge corporations who don't reward such effort yet expect and demand it. I will work so that I can pay my bills and eat. I will be defensive of management in my skilled position, where I am paid the bare minimum and treated like the biggest problem for not doing everyone else's job. But on my weekend, I will work on my passions; I will fail again and again in my own projects in a shitty apartment, not having enough to start a family and barely paying for the necessities, and like all other Gen Zs, I will die here, or I will hold out long enough to replace the failing, out of touch, and greedy corporations that exist now. Corporations are to Capitalism, what Fascism is Democracy, its enemy. But like Fascism, Coroprationism is unsustainable.
iv gotten tired of screen time. i require a goal to chase
go Gym go BRRrrrrrrrrr
Me too, try to think of something cool that you maybe could make money from or the skills you would learn from doing it would be valuable. And do it/document it in some way. That’s what I plan to do shortly
Same here just looking for ideas🙃when you achieve smiles, you get paid.
@@themeeseman6950 true just buillding up skills. Our future might be i.Robot movie hehe
I came in at the tail end of the baby boom. It was a very different world back then. News stories about the Vietnam War came to us on the television. Kids protested that war on the street. However, the young people who fought that war were baby boomers too. It's impossible to say how badly that war shook our confidence. It's hard to generalize about as disparate a group a generation is. I heard that there was over seventy million people that made up the baby boom. You can't cover them all with the same blanket. For better or for worse, kids during the baby boom were far more sheltered than they are today. When I was a kid it was a very big deal if the skin magazines showed just a glimpse of a woman's pubic hair. It's a part of growing up for kids to suffer reality shock when they enter the labor force. There often is resentment between generations. Many of the boomers did drugs in their youth. I'm one of the casualties of that, but I don't hate myself anymore. Life is still good for me now.
I used to work at a day program for adults with disabilities. My job obligations were to drive buses/vans to pick up people in the morning (even those in wheelchairs, where you had to strap them to the floor of the bus), work all day running activities and planning curriculums, feeding people, changing people, administering medication, writing care notes for parents, all while driving them home again in the afternoon. it was one of the most emotionally fufilling jobs I’ve ever worked, and i made so many close relationships with the adults that participated there. Guess the pay? $14/hr…. i wasnt working for the money at first, but when you work 40+ hours a week providing a service that many local families NEED for their loved ones cant even afford my rent? why work in the community to help others, when amazon offers so more financially (like $21/hr) to just deliver packages? atleast that will keep the lights on…
p.s. People with disabilities are viewed with very little respect or legitimacy in the U.S, and the current state of our economy only reflects that
This is awesome!
We spend way more than 1/3 of our lives working. Think about it, we often work 5 days a week, so 5/7 is 70%. You are working nearly 3/4 of your life.
If you didnt work, what would you be doing? Asking for free money? Ot creating/inventing something for free?
@@bh5826 I am a freelance web developer, but I do have a full time job also. If I weren't working at a company, I would be trying to build a business where I can build web apps for companies.
This is weird math. You don't work 24 hours of the day, five days a week. In general, 1/3 is accurate. 6-8 hours a day is spent sleeping. You eat, shower, get dressed, etc. for some amount of hours per day. Perhaps if you are self-employed and building a business, you could make the case for working 12-14 hours a day, but most people don't do that.
That sweater is gorgeous
That one guy on Shark Tank said in an interview:
Kevin O'Leary says: "Should my employees respond to work requests while they're on vacation? Of course they should!"
He goes on to talk about because he 'works' all day every day, so should his employees!
I agree with a lot of what you said. I would still caution younger people about becoming someone that only thinks about themselves and cannot work as part of a team. If you can’t be dependable in your little office job, if you never volunteer to help others or expand your skills, then you won’t be that person when there’s an opening at your favorite start up or charity or whatever you’re really passionate about. A lot of people use the current State of things as an excuse to actually act like a big asshole and treat their coworkers like garbage. Don’t be anybody’s fool, but don’t take advantage of anyone either.