I believe AB. Zach always lies and forgets his own points. Ethan said he hates small talk at grocery stores then Zach disagrees. By the end of the video Zach gives an example of how he hates people talking to him at the grocery store. That's just 1 example of many.
@@mitzara25 You might be right but there's been other times he's been called out by Ethan for saying things that are either contradicting or just plain false.
@@chrisfent414 Example today's episode, 4/29/2021, Zach says he didn't get the offer for the chair because he was asleep. Ethan calls him out when they reveal texts showing that Zach asked for the chair at 9:04pm. Zach then says he goes to bed at 9:30pm, not 9:04pm. So how was Zach asleep when Ethan announced the chair giveaway? Zach is a compulsive liar, and maybe a bit of a narcissist.
@@botbadger in fact if you're innocent you remain angry. If your lying your so confortable that no one knows your lying and you just shrug it off. That's the difference.
I've got this desire to see his hair like Julien Solomita's- moustache and all after running across some pics of Julien with his long hair from back in the day
Zach always forgets his own points can’t believe him his word is fickle at best cmon the man made fun Of mike for dating porn stars only to do it himself like a month later
its the dumbest thing ever... Zach is moving out of his parent's house and AB offered to help him with his stuff and one of them offered to film a bts of it and they're basically arguing who brought it up first.
@@sandersGG I’m actually not in high school but statistics show that attractive people typically go further in life. I was just stating why I think Ab has more followers. I also enjoy his content. If anything you should attack the person above your comment.
@@angie6349 It was one of the times when they had Dr. Drew on. They all took a test which determined how much of a psychopath they each were. I think it might have been an episode of frenemies actually.
@@Cream12345Ice with the idea that Zach and Ab are friends. Zach is fake cause no friend would do that, that is, basically push the narrative of AB being a clout goblin. like what friend would actually do that? pushing a narrative to an audience of millions of people to make their supposed friend look bad, relentlessly too? bruh thats a no for me. Like this dude won't give up. also they seem so fake to me because they say they want the truth even tho AB showed the proof that it was Zach who mentioned it first. Zach is just saying shit with no validity to it. he can't prove it but won't give up. it's fake cause they clearly favour Zach despite of their so called search for the truth. idk I really liked the crew but now this all just puts a bad taste in my mouth.
@@Cream12345Ice like their whole platform is standing up for the people and attacking bullies but when they themselves become the bullies? it all seems a little fishy to me idk.
What is with this picking on AB. I know its part of the show and all but why does everytime something about AB comes up Ethan gets so defensive and demeaning. And i know Ethan cuts everyone off but it is definitely more when its happened to AB. Its just so uncomfortable to watch everyone mobbing against him. Even Hila started stirring the pot here.
@@borromorro idk i’ve seen several times in the last few episodes where ab tries to say something and either ethan, dan, or zach straight up cut him off. seems kinda toxic
I only feel like they're acknowledging how the viewers perceive him and not turning a blind eye to the reputation he's sorta created for himself (how they keep referring to him as clout goblin etc.) But I really don't get any anti AB vibes coming from Ethan and Hila... where did you catch those?? (genuinely curious)
I see this too. Hila agreeing with Zach even though AB has the text as evidence. Ethan basically saying he doesn’t know ABs tiktok and then AB giving it to him (normal conversational structure) and then zach chuckling and saying he’s shamelessly plugging his shit, Ethan agreeing with Zach and saying yeah I never asked what it was. bro come on. I get mean girl vibes. High school subtle snake shit.
15:40. Hila shaking her head in disapproval of AB. and saying "it is a one-way cloud off". You can see she does not approve and does not like what AB is doing. Just an observation.
@@Drkdoc Also when AB said his tik tok was popping off because of his new. videos but ethan quickly dismissed him suggesting it was because of the show. So petty. Its not subtle or funny anymore. I was so uncomfortable.
Tbh it always rubbed me the wrong way that all their podcast employees were white Jewish guys, and the first time they hire a non Jewish person, they are constantly ganging up on him, and it makes me super uncomfortable. The fact Hila doesn’t believe AB when he showed text proof is a weird bias that maybe comes from him being a newer worker but I never saw Zach being treated this way when he was new. I know Ian was bullied one time on the podcast, but it was mainly Ethan against him not the whole crew and they got a ton of backlash and since then Ian is always putting on a character and never rly being himself. Wish they didn’t treat their employees like this. We love you AB
They are amping it up for the show. It was a planned segment of the show for them to talk about this and argue; because they know it is entertaining. Usually if the the crew comes into the show, it’s been talked about before hand. After all, this is an entire production working on creating a successful show.
There’s always a weird energy towards AB, like Zach and Hila don’t really like AB. There always picking on him and Ethan is always instigating it. There always shitting on AB and it’s kind of annoying 🙄
I think all the tides turned on AB after he stood up for David Dobrik a few months ago and got a lot of hate including from Trisha. Hasn’t been the same with him since in terms of how they treat him on the pod 🤷🏻♀️
@@Paula-zt9ol a couple people in the comments in this episode and another said the same thing and i agree. It irritates me that AB gets cut off when hes about to speak. Ethan does interrupt everyone but idk i feel like its more so with AB
it's kind of annoying at this point.. you guys are grown men is it that hard to just admit you're wrong? the context descriptions don't make any sense at all
Ever since the chair thing Zach’s just rubbed me the wrong way more often than not... Idk just don’t be getting genuine vibes from him anymore. I be feelin the hater vibes 🤷🏼♀️
Can everyone leave AB alone.... your creating a toxic work environment for him and it’s not funny... you can’t critic everyone else in the world when you got bullying inside your own podcast
Then don't watch it. If the way other people interact with each other (in a non-harmful way) bothers you, either toughen up a bit or shelter yourself better
@@JRAD897 I’ve been through and seen and heard much worse than that. It’s just a weird type of cringe factor to how embarrassed Zach is and the fact someone is lying.
I like everybody on the team, but I think Zach lowkey has some insecurity issues (socialmedia flexing (eventhough it's done half humorously), expensive watches, suits, ex pornstar girl friends). Love his guitar collection though! Why the hell am I even commenting and who gives a fuck what people do on their free time lol (unless you're Fritzl who matures women in his cellar like wine)
Y’all have been pretty unnecessarily harsh on AB lately. Everyone in the comments of that podcast episode was talking about it. It needs to get addressed. AB handled it well but it’s seriously not a good look
I think AB wants to have a career in entertainment, and is serious about it. Zach not so much...he seems to be content where he's at. That's the difference
Idk why they're giving so much credit to the text message. So basically lets say I tell a friend verbally we should go see a movie. The friend texts me later saying we SHOULD go to the movies (like thats a good idea we should do that). Y'all wanted Zach to text AB - "Hey about that verbal comment you made about you filming me move we should do that." How is that realistic in any context?!?!?! I honestly think AB forgot.
@@Ynh932 That's basically what he said without adding in still. How would Zach know that he had to word it in a way that he could go back and prove he knew that AB gave the idea originally. Point is the whole argument is dumb and I don't think the text proves or disproves anything.
i wish i was a little more like ian, completely unbothered and out of every drama
Except the Ethan vs Ian drama a year ago
I wish I was like AI Ian, a soulless, emotionless eternal machine. But with legs and arms
@@milkyoni What happened then?
I think Ian might be smarter than everyone else there
@@tomothybahamothy yes he is ! Intelligence for sure!! Dans Smart too but Ian is Really smart! AB is Smart too
zach x AB enemies to lovers 500k word slowburn
byeeeeeeeeee
Someone write it
lmaoooo
Friends to enemies to lovers *
Omg😭
This is like 2 parents trying to figure out which kid broke the plate
AB might be a clout goblin but the evidence is on his side. I'm just a man of the law. AB is acquitted
You guys are straight out microaggressing AB. We see what’s happening AB, you have the support of the people.
So true!!!!
Wut
Don't speak for all the people. I believe Zach when he says that Ab brought it up first :)
I believe AB. Zach always lies and forgets his own points. Ethan said he hates small talk at grocery stores then Zach disagrees. By the end of the video Zach gives an example of how he hates people talking to him at the grocery store. That's just 1 example of many.
no that was a misunderstanding he said its hell not to respond something like that
@@mitzara25 You might be right but there's been other times he's been called out by Ethan for saying things that are either contradicting or just plain false.
@@chrisfent414 Example today's episode, 4/29/2021, Zach says he didn't get the offer for the chair because he was asleep. Ethan calls him out when they reveal texts showing that Zach asked for the chair at 9:04pm. Zach then says he goes to bed at 9:30pm, not 9:04pm. So how was Zach asleep when Ethan announced the chair giveaway? Zach is a compulsive liar, and maybe a bit of a narcissist.
It's because he wants credit for being a good person, and he thinks he's brightening the day of the cashier by making small talk. 🙄
I think Zach might still be upset that AB took the best looking title off him 😂
@Camilla Nguyen yeah the fat emo kid is cute yeah right lmao
I know your game Star killa. You're just ab in a blue Deadpool mask
@@SS-cq6wc incel? uhh okay buddy guess opinion's can't be said if they hurt your feelings haha
@@SS-cq6wc go cry about it :)
@@SS-cq6wc yeah i totally wanna be a 20 something year old male painting my nails and throwing fits over a chair to get attention sound lovely :)
Zach is 100% lying lmao
Shows in how quickly defensive he is
@@botbadger because everyone that's defensive is a liar?
@@botbadger in fact if you're innocent you remain angry. If your lying your so confortable that no one knows your lying and you just shrug it off. That's the difference.
I hope they don't break up they're so cute together :(
The only Otp that matters.
@jjaku19301 yeah🥺💚
@jjaku19301 Bro really, look at the hair. The hair that they did together. They're definitely gonna bang this out after the move and off camera.
@jjaku19301 ur being trolled
@@bhutwheyttherismor86 Lmaoooo
Zach is taking it so seriously, while AB is just laughing through it.
That's Zach for you lol.
Someone get Zach to go back to his black hair. He looks like my aunt rn.
LMAOOOO WTF
I've got this desire to see his hair like Julien Solomita's- moustache and all after running across some pics of Julien with his long hair from back in the day
They are unnecessarily mean to AB and It's not funny
i believe AB I just think Zach probably just forgot and really believes what he's saying
Dan is the best looking we just dont get to see him now
@@TouchOfMaddness thank you!!! he's SO fineee
@@TouchOfMaddness I disagree, ai Ian looks the best.
Nah, Zach is a metro douche.
@@TouchOfMaddness Dan and Ian are really attractive
Zach always forgets his own points can’t believe him his word is fickle at best cmon the man made fun Of mike for dating porn stars only to do it himself like a month later
Yeah, he shouldn't be let off the hook for that one so easy, lol.
Dont trust a guy who swears he did something, but doesnt actually remember it
SOOOOO TRUUUEE
AB literally had proof that it was zach like what is this
I don’t think AB is getting a fair shake lol. I stand with AB ;P
AB is so clearly not lying 😂
It’s weird to know that Love is just there, but completely silent
Who is love?
Is Love a person , you made it seem that way at least
@@deviction6530 yup one of the guys
@@BillionaireForever baby don’t hurt me?
I kinda like that tho lol
For anyone confused it's about who suggested they film Zach moving
"I was just bringing it up" zach's language really indicates he's lying
My guess is that one of them mentioned it first and genuinely forgot, now saying that it was the other who said it first
What happened
its the dumbest thing ever... Zach is moving out of his parent's house and AB offered to help him with his stuff and one of them offered to film a bts of it and they're basically arguing who brought it up first.
I think so too. I've definitely had conversations like that in the past.
no offense to Zack but I think AB has more followers because his looks
Zach looks like a sweaty creep so probably
What are you in high school or grade school looks aren’t the only reason why
Someone has more followers petty af
😕
@@sandersGG I’m actually not in high school but statistics show that attractive people typically go further in life. I was just stating why I think Ab has more followers. I also enjoy his content. If anything you should attack the person above your comment.
I love Zack, but it's hard to trust him ever since that test revealed he's a literal psychopath.
😯 really when did they talk about that?? I wanna see
@@angie6349 It was one of the times when they had Dr. Drew on. They all took a test which determined how much of a psychopath they each were. I think it might have been an episode of frenemies actually.
Late but, I just finished watching that. None of them scored high for psychopath. However, both AB and Zach are narcissists - which makes total sense.
zach lied on that thing for sure 100%. he thinks being the joker is cool
We need the Frenemy investigation squad on this one
Pathetic
@@DanIel-eq9ob you have a problem?
the only solution! the interview with jeff proved that trisha and ethan is the ultimate good cop/bad cop combo
trish will cease this debate
@@cgbach kinda sounds like he does lol
The way they treat AB is so annoying like leave him alone. They are all so fake
Agree with the first party but why does that make them fake
@@Cream12345Ice with the idea that Zach and Ab are friends. Zach is fake cause no friend would do that, that is, basically push the narrative of AB being a clout goblin. like what friend would actually do that? pushing a narrative to an audience of millions of people to make their supposed friend look bad, relentlessly too? bruh thats a no for me. Like this dude won't give up. also they seem so fake to me because they say they want the truth even tho AB showed the proof that it was Zach who mentioned it first. Zach is just saying shit with no validity to it. he can't prove it but won't give up. it's fake cause they clearly favour Zach despite of their so called search for the truth. idk I really liked the crew but now this all just puts a bad taste in my mouth.
@@Cream12345Ice like their whole platform is standing up for the people and attacking bullies but when they themselves become the bullies? it all seems a little fishy to me idk.
not once during this video did I understand what was going on
I'm liking AB's hair more and more.
Who is ab?
@@rsm2328 Bruh
@@rsm2328 “it’s the guy over there in the corner”
@@rsm2328 the short blonde haired one.
Zach is kinda' pissing me off lately. Might be his younger age but almost nothing he says seems sincere to me.
AB is right about how they always make up beef with Ab in it, that’s sus. I feel like those are micro aggressions
I know, eh? Leave *AB* alone!
Zach seems like a weird guy and quick to lie
Yea he seems pretty insecure and his self awareness is non existent lmao
What is with this picking on AB. I know its part of the show and all but why does everytime something about AB comes up Ethan gets so defensive and demeaning. And i know Ethan cuts everyone off but it is definitely more when its happened to AB. Its just so uncomfortable to watch everyone mobbing against him. Even Hila started stirring the pot here.
Chill.. they're playing it up for the show
It’s cuz they’re Jews and AB is Palestinian
@@borromorro idk i’ve seen several times in the last few episodes where ab tries to say something and either ethan, dan, or zach straight up cut him off. seems kinda toxic
@@leoarreguin556 i'm pretty sure he's not palestinian
@@MegaFishcat hmm 🤔
Zach has no integrity
Zach is a clout chaser and kinda comes off as someone who craves to be liked a little too hard, so I think it’s him who b lyin.
It’s a joke 😭
Yo chill it’s a joke
OMG I JUST REALIZED IAN AND DAN ARENT THE SAME PERSON
Dawg how long have you thought that
I DID THE SAME THING
Ah a newcomer to the channel welcome
So we all had this moment?
They sound alike so it's confusing lol
AB & ZACH DON’T LET THE BOSS DIVIDE YOU 😆 💪🏾 🔨
I feel uncomfortable with the subtle anti AB vibes from Hila and Ethan
Not okay
I only feel like they're acknowledging how the viewers perceive him and not turning a blind eye to the reputation he's sorta created for himself (how they keep referring to him as clout goblin etc.) But I really don't get any anti AB vibes coming from Ethan and Hila... where did you catch those?? (genuinely curious)
I see this too. Hila agreeing with Zach even though AB has the text as evidence. Ethan basically saying he doesn’t know ABs tiktok and then AB giving it to him (normal conversational structure) and then zach chuckling and saying he’s shamelessly plugging his shit, Ethan agreeing with Zach and saying yeah I never asked what it was. bro come on. I get mean girl vibes. High school subtle snake shit.
15:40. Hila shaking her head in disapproval of AB. and saying "it is a one-way cloud off".
You can see she does not approve and does not like what AB is doing. Just an observation.
@@Drkdoc Also when AB said his tik tok was popping off because of his new. videos but ethan quickly dismissed him suggesting it was because of the show. So petty. Its not subtle or funny anymore. I was so uncomfortable.
Tbh it always rubbed me the wrong way that all their podcast employees were white Jewish guys, and the first time they hire a non Jewish person, they are constantly ganging up on him, and it makes me super uncomfortable. The fact Hila doesn’t believe AB when he showed text proof is a weird bias that maybe comes from him being a newer worker but I never saw Zach being treated this way when he was new. I know Ian was bullied one time on the podcast, but it was mainly Ethan against him not the whole crew and they got a ton of backlash and since then Ian is always putting on a character and never rly being himself. Wish they didn’t treat their employees like this. We love you AB
Factssssssss!!!!!
Completely agree.
They are amping it up for the show. It was a planned segment of the show for them to talk about this and argue; because they know it is entertaining. Usually if the the crew comes into the show, it’s been talked about before hand. After all, this is an entire production working on creating a successful show.
I thought I was the only one who thought this damn
Peace and love, but Zack looking like a red pepper.
I just laughed so fucking loud thank you
@@reesebartholomew5871 lol I’m glad somebody 11 months later appreciates this comment
Are we forgetting Zach is Machiavellian
Can we all just agree it’s Zach lying and move on, getting a little awkward
@jjaku19301 yes they are! They’ve been together for while🥰
@jjaku19301 no lol
Zach sure says "I don't care" a lot for someone who doesn't care.
There’s always a weird energy towards AB, like Zach and Hila don’t really like AB. There always picking on him and Ethan is always instigating it. There always shitting on AB and it’s kind of annoying 🙄
I agree 1000%
I think all the tides turned on AB after he stood up for David Dobrik a few months ago and got a lot of hate including from Trisha. Hasn’t been the same with him since in terms of how they treat him on the pod 🤷🏻♀️
It's because everyone else is Jewish
@@Paula-zt9ol a couple people in the comments in this episode and another said the same thing and i agree. It irritates me that AB gets cut off when hes about to speak. Ethan does interrupt everyone but idk i feel like its more so with AB
@@BeeVee-zz9ip oh shit 😳
Zach is trying so hard to make AB look bad lol
I said it on the podcast vid but this is basically the finger gun standoff from The Office.
Zach is an actually sweet guy, pretty sure he is a uncontrollably and reactionary/compulsive liar.
I'm team AB
Zach really thinks he's something doesn't he 😂
Can't wait for Frenemies Vol. 2 featuring Zach & AB!
Zach is such a poser. The real cloutgoblin.
Zach is the cloutgoblin!! Omg
I guess people forgot about his cringe thirst trapping on tiktok.
@@littlefrog9553 omg, so cringe!
There’s only one way to figure this out. They gotta wrestle in a paddling pool full of mud.
Clout Goblin vs Generic Narcissist
That red face is a dead give away 😝
Who cares about this fake petty drama. I always feel bad for AB. This "bit" isn't funny, it's so fucking awkward.
I totally agree!!!! The way they treat AB is weird
Why is Zach lying tho?!??
AB seems correct
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂 why is it so serious
I've been holding this in for so long, I hate to say it, but I really don't like Zach. He annoys the fuck out of me. As a fan, with peace and love.
something about hearing dan's voice is so calming to me
Thought I was the only one, his voice calms me down almost immediately
AB has evidence but Zach is a terrible liar. Hmm, I'm going to need an update on this.
AB's dark triad score speaks for itself
lol Zach is the one who scored high on both psychopathy and narcissism.
I need some friendly arguments like this.
This entire "argument" gave me a giant smile haha
AB looks so good with the hair
You can feel the tension between the two extremely riveting content 🤩
Aww thanks dad
16:20 i love Dan on the show but i just wanted to point out that he voice cracked twice at this time
Cute
it's kind of annoying at this point.. you guys are grown men is it that hard to just admit you're wrong? the context descriptions don't make any sense at all
It was funny at first but i think they just should drop it at this point. Its not even important at all who said it first
It’s not that deep lol
@@jimmydarling4009 exactly
I really don't like how Ethan and hila talk to AB. If you don't like/respect him let him go.
Zach x AB enemies to lovers 😳🥴
AB has been so quiet lately, until this. I'm not sure who's side to pick!
Zach and Ethan remind me of each other in all the worst ways..
AB is getting the wrath and blame from all the insecurities in everyone of these so called "friends"
starkilla, RISE my apprentice.
Ever since the chair thing Zach’s just rubbed me the wrong way more often than not... Idk just don’t be getting genuine vibes from him anymore. I be feelin the hater vibes 🤷🏼♀️
what chair thing
wait, what the hell is happening?! what did i miss?!
here's where it all started: th-cam.com/video/hIJilmpEaYQ/w-d-xo.html
same lol
Okay but now you guys have to film it....
Can everyone leave AB alone.... your creating a toxic work environment for him and it’s not funny... you can’t critic everyone else in the world when you got bullying inside your own podcast
Exactly. Especially when Ethan said that he sides with Zack because "it is not fair that AB has more followers?"
So true!
Ngl its petty drama and mostly fun, you just want to make it bigger then it is
Ian in the BG muted doing his job in peace lol
This shit is so uncomfortable. I hate watching this type of male banter. If they were in the same room I would have to fast forward.
Then don't watch it. If the way other people interact with each other (in a non-harmful way) bothers you, either toughen up a bit or shelter yourself better
@@JRAD897 calm down, I love the podcast and I’m not shitting on anyone. I’m saying it makes me uncomfortable. Why do you care?
Why "male" banter? If they were women it would be okay?
@@JRAD897 I’ve been through and seen and heard much worse than that. It’s just a weird type
of cringe factor to how embarrassed Zach is and the fact someone is lying.
Ew why are you all so dramatic?
My favorite new drama can't wait for next week's episode
Yall need to tell Zach too quit drinking on the job 👀
Zach is sus
Zach and AB are on fire lol
Ab vs Zach boxing match 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀??????
AB probably brought it up casually in conversation and forgot. BUT THATS JUST A THEORYYY
I like everybody on the team, but I think Zach lowkey has some insecurity issues (socialmedia flexing (eventhough it's done half humorously), expensive watches, suits, ex pornstar girl friends). Love his guitar collection though! Why the hell am I even commenting and who gives a fuck what people do on their free time lol (unless you're Fritzl who matures women in his cellar like wine)
Can we sound bite Zach at 4:29
WHY ARE YOU LYING ! WHY R U LYING
Y’all have been pretty unnecessarily harsh on AB lately. Everyone in the comments of that podcast episode was talking about it. It needs to get addressed. AB handled it well but it’s seriously not a good look
Popcorn ready. Hope they don’t break up
The moment you found out Ian and Dan are 2 different persons🙂🙂
zach is pure cringe good lord
Zach in a suit reminds me of the lawyer in Fear and Loathing
Zach is more red than Donald Trump is orange
Can someone tell me what happened?
Hila obviously has a thing for Zach
I have always thought that as well
No just no
Then do you think she is trolling or just not using her head? The way he texted AB makes it pretty clear how it went
AB is def a clout goblin but i think zach did bring it up
I think AB wants to have a career in entertainment, and is serious about it. Zach not so much...he seems to be content where he's at. That's the difference
Idk why they're giving so much credit to the text message. So basically lets say I tell a friend verbally we should go see a movie. The friend texts me later saying we SHOULD go to the movies (like thats a good idea we should do that). Y'all wanted Zach to text AB - "Hey about that verbal comment you made about you filming me move we should do that." How is that realistic in any context?!?!?! I honestly think AB forgot.
@@Ynh932 That's basically what he said without adding in still. How would Zach know that he had to word it in a way that he could go back and prove he knew that AB gave the idea originally. Point is the whole argument is dumb and I don't think the text proves or disproves anything.
Zach lies, he’s young it’s normal
Zach just salty AB got pretty boi of the group
TeamAB
All's I'm saying is that I followed Ian on instagram out of spite.
Zach has never been right on this show, but I will never not be on his side.