What Happens if you Recycle My Computer? | Nostalgia Nerd
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- What Happens if you put My Computer in the Recycle bin? It's a question which has been answered in the Big Play Films short at • Peter's Computer - Des... , but I wanted to test it out in real life. I also wanted to cover the story of the Recycle bin a bit as well. Perhaps which computer had the first trash can, and how the Windows Recycle Bin evolved from DOS to Windows 3.1 to Windows 95.
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I'm surprised you didn't try deleting the Recycle Bin itself from the command prompt.
maniac! :-)
in modern windows (7 8 10) recycle bin isnt even a proper shortcut file
and i know this is a joke, dont woosh me
@@tunis4 whoosh
@@TheBodgybrothers frick off
Or attempt to recycle the Recycle Bin...
Easily the most enjoyable pointless video I've seen all week.
Jeez I'd forgotten all about Undelete in Windows 3.1, had to fiddle with that many times on my own Packard Bell back then.
Getting a comment from the man with the voice like golden syrup... That is probably better than getting any framed Play Button.
Are you two related by any chance? Both of you look and act a bit similar.
Agreed. Why am I not surprised to see you here? ;)
While I had MS-DOS 6.22, I can't recall ever attempting to restore a deleted file. I understood that the function was there, but I never needed it: either I have the file, or I don't, so I was very careful about what I chose to delete.
Hey Clint.
"Who the hell takes a full-blown computer into a coffee shop?"
Clint from LGR would.
Yes.... the woodgrain one...
I recall amusing myself on the Amiga by double-clicking a folder icon to open it in a window, then dragging the folder's icon into its contents. Voila! Folder eats itself and disappears.
Fascinating.
Sounds delicious
N.B. When prodigalretrod says it disappears that doesn't mean the directory itself was deleted. The Amiga's icon files (suffixed with .info on disk) exist separately from the files, directories or volumes they represent and can be freely copied, moved, deleted or edited.
that technique is what i would call Imploding.
Windows 10 is too smart for that...
Error: Your Computer is too large to fit into Recycle Bin
Michal Kundrát LOL
You better compress the file
For a second there, I thought you were wearing a Frozen Elsa shirt
How is this even possible
"Delete all your data from all your drives. And no one wants that"
Linux Users: what about sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root--
Delete system32
When I was working IT, I once had a customer who went to great lengths to delete his system32 folder, and when I queried him on it, he insisted he didn't need it at all, because he was running a 64-bit OS. You'd think, if you have to do the Windows "God Mode" thing to enable a super-administrator account to do it, it might not be advisable to do it... He's proof of the phrase "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".
@@NoobixCube Well, no system is idiot-proof. Some people have a REAL talent at being fools.
@@zakazany1945 It doesn't matter how idiot-proof you make something, the world will always provide a better idiot. It's like a self-destructive reverse-Darwinism.
del del.exe for dos >__
No.
ok i am dumb i thought you were going to recycle a computer ie take it to a electronic recycling company. that might of been more interesting. but only take a well and truly dead one
That's what I expected too.
Me too!
Good, I wasn't the only one.
I thought so too!
Like do people not look at thumbnails
C:\Recycled is where I used to hide all the files I didn't want my parents to find...
so you hide your 50 gb homework file?
@@itsthatdude4814 50 gb? Those are rookie numbers
@@jodolphinlover2282 1 tb,take it or leave it
Ameuters
@@jodolphinlover2282 Kind of hard to put 50GB of "homework" on a 1.8GB drive.
I had a friend that learned he could save space by zipping files and proceded to zip up everything, system directories included and then try to delete them as he had them "safe in my zip". That was fun to sort out.
Great video as always. Who brings a desktop computer to a cafe? I don't know, but when I was at a college a guy brought in a desktop, full keyboard, mouse and a 20" CRT and set it up in the University library at a table. He then put on some huge headphones and played Warcraft II. This was in 2000.
Seems reasonable.
Did he immediatly receive some sort of well deserved extra credit? He certainly deserved it! Maximum effort!
On a trip to Gotland (Sweden's largest island) by boat/ship several years ago (2010 ± a couple years, don't know exactly when), I saw a few guys setting up desktop computers on a table in the free seating/restaurant area. I guess they had been at DreamHack and were on the way home.
@@maighstir3003 in 2010! I thought everyone was in netbook fever in 2010!
@@oncameramastery Netbooks were big in 2008. Then people discovered they were crap the following years! (Me included. But I have always had strong desktops in addition to laptops/Tablets etc)...
Sweden here too, by the way.
And, yeah, I used to take my desktop Pc with a CRT-monitor on trainjourneys in the early 2000:s. Not much of choice back then, since laptops were really weak. (They Still are in comparison)
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File date: 1/21/;9
Interesting to see this File Manager build is, as you'd expect, a pre-Y2K fixed build.
"...the undelete command..."
Huh. So Wheatley wasn't entirely wrong about that after all...
Wait what?
@@peachymunmagenta He's referring to Portal 2.
It is 2019 and I just learned a new thing about MSDOS... (I did know about undelete but not about that sentry directory)
But the true question is: Can we put recycle bin into recycle bin shortcut? Will the universe implode if we do so?!?
A question science can't answer.
Well now that you said it im going to boot up my windows 2000 virtual machine and do some experimentation.
I tried that, it didn't work
you can't put something in itself, it's like using the command "move myfile path/to/myfile", it will throw an error message
Bro I once legit recycled the recycling bin on my mom’s computer as a kid.
@@peachymunmagenta your mon must be mad,she can’t delete her bridge papers anymore.
Man, I miss the days of Windows 95/98. I liked the Paintbrush cameo in the video.
It looks so good to me.
Same here. I really miss those days.
I can honestly say I've never seen that .gif/video before
That was my very first PC and I bloody loved it, despite it not being really powerful.
I was expecting you to play "Never Gonna Give You Up" when you finished dragging My Computer over to the bin :D
Never gonna delet
I have memories of deleting the mouse cursor on an Acorn computer back in Infant School. We were using a program where you could drag shapes around the screen to build pictures. We were creating snowmen and Christmas trees. To remove a piece you didn't want you just dragged it to the bin icon. I was telling a class mate who wanted to get rid of a carrot piece and when they let go over the bin icon the cursor disappeared instead! The teacher had to restart the entire machine.
I discovered a glitch in the Windows NT 4 era that prompted me to "delete" anything, including the Recycle Bin itself!
It was quite simple actually, especially on slower hardware. Open Windows NT Explorer, and highlight a folder in the left pane which could legally be deleted. The trick then was to use the keyboard to navigate up to something that shouldn’t delete, like the Recycle Bin, and then quickly click the File menu with the mouse before the contents of the right pane updated.
If timed correctly, the Delete option would still be there, and you would then be told that the Recycle Bin cannot fit in the Recycle Bin. A confirmation dialog would then ask you if you were sure you wanted to delete it. I’ll leave it to the audience to guess what happens next.
I’d later find this glitch to work on Windows 95 also, but the "webby" Windows 98 explorer would force a new File menu, preventing access to the glitch.
uh, i guess you lose acess to recycle bin window and you can only delete files from cmd?
you cant fit a recycle bin in the same recycle bin in real life too so I guess it makes sense 🤔
I put a video on my channel recently, showing how to set up the deletion process on NT4 on a real machine. I used a limited guest account to play it safe.
@@tcreeperrblx8682 Depends on what its made out of :P Quantum trash bins will be the future lol
Ha, be gone Internet Explorer! I cant believe how much detail and research has gone into a daft attempt to brick a system! Great work NostalgiaNerd!
Internet exploder.
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Linux will allow you to do this. It’s simple.
sudo rm -rf / (-no-preserve-root)
Really? They should put more linux machines in public places, it'd be a right laugh doing that to them all!
You'd need to be a superuser to do that, hence why he called rm with sudo.
dr-nerd they’d have to know the admin password though. That’s what the “sudo” part is. Super User DO. The super user is basically an ultra-admin, the “system” account, and is almost always referred to as the “root” account. The root account often lacks a password for security reasons (as you can’t log into it if there is no password), so instead certain users (who are placed in the “sudoers” group, basically admins) have the ability to use the “sudo” command to tell the root account to do whatever they wish with just their password (as the root account has no password) and a press of the Enter key.
source: Manjaro Linux (with i3 window manager) is my daily driver
Benedikt V. Ya beat my lengthier explanation to the punch :p
Yours is more in-depth though. ^^ Maybe it could use clarification regarding the root account having no password - that does not mean that it's insecure and can be accessed by anyone, but instead that no one can access it (because no password means no way to log in to it). Also, you don't need the root account's password to use sudo, you just need to be in the sudoers group and your own password.
Notice all the scratches on his hands, I think he was trying the cat eating its tail in RL, then again it could have been octav1us he tried it with too...same results
I remember watching my dad running undelete, but I always thought that was part of Norton and not DOS itself! Guessing the missing letter of the filename seemed like a fun quirk to me. Like unintentional Hangman.
I seem to recall that, on some late-90s Macs my high school had, it was possible to put at least the OS in the equivalent disposal area and, although you couldn't then empty the trash, rebooting would result in a system error rather than loading the OS.
I thought this video was going to be about what happens when computer hardware is recycled.
Yeah, that gif made me to laugh like crazy back in the day :)))
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Video: dial-up noise
Subtitles: *(jazz)*
GREAT VIDEO LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!
If you recycle the pc, it just teleports to the nearest recycle bean.
SCITECH DISPLAY DOCTOR!!!!!!!! Now there's a blast from the past.
Only way to make my old SiS work lol
@@GzeeBRII Also it enables higher resolution and color depth on VirtualBox! Without it 9x will run only in 640x480 in 16 colors.
I actually just spent last 10 minutes looking that up, and walked out to my wife...man I just scitech display doctor havent seen that in 20 years.
Still use SDD for OS/2 here...
You kinda need that if you want to play old games on a virtual machine
Being following your channel since your second video, best nostalgia videos every my friend!
This reminds me about when I got a cheap laptop when I was about 7. After about a month I noticed there was an eject option for the hard drive. I had the computer for about 4 years. I was always too scared and never pressed the button.
I'm enjoying that Windows 98 Active Desktop channel guide entirely too much. All those defunct logos...
This did make me chuckle this morning, thanks Pete I needed that :D
This was far more entertaining and informative than I was expecting!
Nowadays, it'll just throw up a generic error box. You know what's funny about the My Computer icon? It is a shortcut icon as well. It's just a direct shortcut that doesn't go through a batch command like typical shortcuts do.
Everything on Windows, even now, still runs on the MS-DOS command system style.
I like when there's some file that's being difficult with me, so I open the Command Prompt, change the file's Attributes, and in most cases voila!
Great video mate! I made sure to share this in the Retro PC Gamers group!
For sure!
also did this on my linux machine , and it just puts the icon for home in the wastebin section of the drive , since its just a script , a .desktop script for the xsession interpreter of xorg , even doing a delete it just deletes the .desktop script , which is even better than what windows tries to do with disallow [ as that can be overridden by a virus or malware] , it even puts a new .desktop script striaght back on the desktop when changing the tick options of appearance settings , so it actually deletes them from the session icon folder when untick those options , so it can even put the wastebin in the wastebin [ wastebin inception ]
Ha that was excellent! Love your videos, keep it up!!!
Wow. This isn’t what I expected - because a very clear memory of my middle school keyboarding class involves me putting my computer in the recycle bin of the three of the desktops - then emptying the recycle bin - which made the machine restart - but not be able to boot up - they went into a
Cycle of startup and then restart until I just powered them off and quickly left the room. The next day IT had removed those machines and I didn’t see them for the rest of the semester. At some point in time on some version of windows 95- the machine WOULD let you recycle my computer and it DID crash the machine. I promise on a stack of bibles over my mothers grave - please discover which version this was - I would now love to know how I accomplished wrecking these machines by recycling the c drive.
I do remember I think it was Windows XP and maybe 2000 as well where if you did this it would simply remove the icon from the desktop. I also vaguely remember a message popping up telling you where you could re-enable it.
I might be wrong but this just sat somewhere in my mind 😂
I also had a Packard Bell w those awesome side mounted speakers! Lol
I remember well the days of our Win 3.1 486 DX when I was about 7 and we used to let my Nan play Solitaire on it. Then one day we turned up to discovered she had somehow managed to close Solitaire and deleted Win 3.1 File Manager. Had to have the resident village 'computer expert' come around and save the day. Good work Nan!
I forgot about "My Briefcase" on there! What the fuck was that ever used for?
I had that monitor with my first pc woo! Love the channel
I enjoyed this video, plus personally I didn't knew about the various recycle.bin paths for both DOS and Windows.
Quite interesting I must say.
A Packard Bell? Yeah, that belongs in the Recycle Bin for sure.
Isn't the "My computer" icon just a shortcut?
No. Shortcuts are .lnk files. My Computer on a desktop is an OS feature, which you can turn on or off (show or hide) at will, but cannot handle as a file in any way. (Unless you create a shortcut to My Computer yourself, naturally, which would then be just a .lnk file.)
says my computer icon
@@synchronos1 I'm still a little confused on how you can seamlessly delete these well "icons" of "My Computer" or more properly "Computer" and "This PC" nowadays. Are they made into some form of shortcut now that you can do that?
@@necrobynerton7384 It looks like Explorer detects that you're dropping the This PC icon onto the Recycle Bin and prompts you. If you agree, the icon is disabled, but it does not show up in the bin. these icons appear to be generated by Explorer itself, rather than from any file in the Desktop folder.
Also, it took me a while to figure out where to enable them back on from Windows 10. MS really can't decide which Control Panel it likes better.
Undelete has been around since dos V4 (If I remember correctly) via 3rd party utilities. Norton utilities and Central point (the one that dos 5 uses is from central point) had these as TSRs. They'd basically have a small data base that had the file names in them and then they'd rename the 'deleted' files to something else and/or move them to a new folder and set them as system/hidden. Delete files would get permanently deleted when the real free space went below a certain threshold. I think some of the utilities also used to lie to DOS and tell it that there was more free than there really was and then would deallocate the files for real in the fat when the space was needed. Sort of like how stacker etc worked. Free space in stacker volumes is usually a lie.
This is based on my memory of using them back in the late to early 80s/90s. V4 of dos added some better hdd stuff than dos 3 but dos 5 really should be the minimum that people want to run these days if you can't get open dos v7(what is the current version?) or free dos as the more modern versions have all the functionality but some better and handier utilities.
Well, it seems to be different with windows 10.
I tried it and my Computer just loaded and killed my Cat that was laying on top of it :C
lol that 1 second flash of fury 3 brings back so many memories
I had to try this myself on my modern PC, and yeah, it doesn’t work. I’m so tempted to try and delete the recycle bin with my command print though.
First off: Getting a plane ticket is expensive
Second: I'd probably get the cops called on me for breaking and entering
Third: It's pretty heavy
2:11
You noticed that there is no shadow between him and the computer
5:16 Corporate rap, beautiful. Some can, some can't. And those who can't just end up with a poem.
Lol! You get it man!
Your mouse hand looks like a pile of pink mouse. Lol! I loved this! Knew what would happen already!
1:02 its like being back in the computer lab at school.
I still have that exact computer sat in my loft, was awesome for its day lol
Our first family computer was a 98 Packard Bell. Those attached speakers on yours made it very recognisable to me. Good video.
Also, I don't know about W10 yet (my computer's about 12 years old and I tried running 10 on it but it's super slow, so I went back to 7 without thinking to try this first, until I make enough spare money to build a new one), but on W7 this manoeuvre pops up a window with a message that asks us, "Are you sure you want to delete the Computer icon from your desktop? To restore it later, go to Personalization in Control Panel."
I was thinking you'd be able to get into some code involving either the protections built into the recycle bin function or the attributes of the files or file types associated with the system files themselves. It would be interesting to see, we all know what the end result would be (a brick), if you were able to modify the protections and actually deposit said files into said recycle bin.
Song @ 8:39 is : Entry I Love You - Jincheng Zhang your welcome!
I honestly thought this would be a video about the process of tearing apart a computer and reclaiming valuable metals or parts from them.
Windows 10 allows you to delete the 'My Computer/This PC' desktop icon however it does not go to the Recycle Bin. Instead it brings up a Confirm Delete dialogue box along with a message of how to restore it through Control Panel>Personalization.
I didn't know about the "sentry" command. Didn't Microsoft include "undelete" after it had already been included in other DOS systems? (DR-DOS?)
Losing the first character in the filename was a direct consequence of how "deleting" actually worked: the file wasn't deleted, but rather its FAT entry was modified. I think the first character was changed to a tilde? Can't remember what other changes (if any) were made.
Ah, those were the days...
The strangest thing I ever ran into in Computing was dragging the floppy disk on a Mac plus to the trashcan to eject it.
What started out as a simple question turned into a full-blown history lesson. You've truly outdone yourself.
That's my fav gif lol
I had sent it in every reccomended person on Facebook back in 2017 winter...
ive done it quite a few times in the past , the shortcut i mean cos it keeps ending up cluttering my desktop over the years.
5:00 Just made my day XD
These days, on Win10 you can toss My Computer into the Recycle bin with hapless abandon. It just removes the icon from the desktop. You can bring it back from the Themes settings.
Same would happen in older windows if it would not be for special conditions of not allowing removing this special icon. Likely they didn't people just removing and thinking they broke the computer. Even if they did no such thing.
Don't move your mouse with your wrist like that - use your whole arm. Unless you like repetitive stress injury.
I remember being in 1st or 2nd year at high school and genuinely thinking that I'd deleted Internet Explorer from the system when I accidentally deleted the icon. I knew nothing about computers at that point.
I had no idea what this video was going to be about. I was thinking it was going to be something a bit more literal, like information about recycling old PC's lol.
I don't understand how a 9 minute and 20 second long video can contain 33 minutes of footage of an icon moving toward a Recycle Bin icon ... but somehow, this video manages to do it.
Epic! ...and informative! (I've never seen Xerox's Alto in action before.) Thank you. :)
It also answers the historic question; which came first, the Trash or the Recycle Bin? It's quite trivial, but I've always wondered about that, since childhood.
Probably the recycle bin. Early humans were much more likely to get the most use out of something instead of using it once and tossing it.
Thank goodness they put in that failsafe.
I had a Packard Bell computer that looked just like that. I spent a good chunk of my life using that thing.
My Computer is a virtual folder, one of those with a GUID for a name, referencing a particular kind of Shell View object. This object, when asked by Explorer to enumerate its contents, returns any present and mounted disk drives. These in turn are Folder Views, that is, Shell Views that represent actual disk contents. It is *not* like doing "rm -r /f" on a *nix system.
I don't know about Windows 10, but in Windows 7 you can turn any folder into another My Computer by naming it "anything.{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}".
And here I was thinking you were going to talk about when you recycle your computer and it ends up in a landfill somewhere in the Third World where toxic chemicals leech out of it into the groundwater... this was a lot more fun :)
We had a test machine running suse a coworker of mine was logged into the gui as root when he accidentally moved /etc to the desktop. The mouse cursor transformed to a bouncing ball and the system became unresponsive except the ability to move the bouncing ball around. We returned a week later to find the ball had stopped bouncing and there was a regular cursor again. He moved the mouse to check it out, the bouncing ball returned.
Anyone know the details of that Packard Bell? I had one of those back in 99 (it was my first Windows machine) but I dont know the specifics.
Classic Packard Bell. Looked so boss back then.
I'm mostly watching this to see if I remember correctly what happens from trying this back in the day :D
For years I thought that undelete was a standalone software that has to be installed separately. Well, I wasn't born in the DOS era and thus only know very little about it. In my childhood memory DOS was mostly considered "superior for games because the game can take all the resource". Oh, how silly I was.
Yeah I remember trying that back then. I forgot all about it until I saw this video.
Advanced version of deleting system32
Actually, the "My Computer" icon itself is a shortcut, albeit a special one. "Network Neighbourhood" and "Recycle Bin" are also special shortcuts. If you somehow successfully deleted "My Computer", it would just remove the icon from the desktop. It wouldn't delete any actual files.
I think you can screw with those icons somewhere in the Registry, but I don't know exactly where.
'...a Celeron, one of the first... Ultimately It's Perfect!!!'...LMFAO every Celeron I've ever come across in my entire life as a repair technician I've wanted to ultimately throw in the recycle bin!!! Good one Brother!!!
Got your book for Christmas btw. Really enjoyable trip down memory lane!
Cat scratch on your hand says you defo have a cat!
Windows: I can’t delete my computer!
Linux: Hold my beer…
I've done that on a System 7 Mac. It did hose the system.
LOL dude! Bloody hilarious video! Well done!
When he attempted it two minutes into a nine minute video, I of course assumed the rest would all be for the long procedure of restoring it
3:16 - Puhahaha, that's hilarious!
My family's first computer was a Packard Bell and it had the exact same monitor, I have never met anyone else who had one. This was a fun trip down memory lane.