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  • @TheCyberNerds
    @TheCyberNerds  ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @Andy_B11
      @Andy_B11 ปีที่แล้ว

      clearly at that point you guys didn't realise James Gunn said it's not an origin and it'll be a young Clarke Kent as a reporter, so it is year one

  • @DangeistYT
    @DangeistYT ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I hope Gunn knows what hes doing because boi 😬if this new Superman film flops its truely over for DC , Like literally.

    • @jordangibbish7701
      @jordangibbish7701 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He has no idea what he's doing. He barely was able to make a PASSABLE Suicide Squad movie as it is, now he's IN CHARGE?!? Abandon all hope ye who enter the DC/GunnVerse

    • @jasbb2
      @jasbb2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jordangibbish7701 naw that suicide squad movie was good. But to me they can get away with a guardians of the galaxy type of vibe when it comes to that. Superman is a whole other story

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Financially? Maybe it’ll be over.. if it’s quality is shit? Yeah it might be over.

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordangibbish7701 Lol, that Suicide Squad film was one of the few things DC got right. Gunn can’t be doing any worse than what came before him.

    • @jordangibbish7701
      @jordangibbish7701 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nate8604 He made a good Suicide Squad, but he still made a huge mistake killing Rick Flagg and definitely made a huge mistake by giving Henry Cavill the boot. Quite possibly the stupidest thing Warner Bros has done since almost never giving us the Snyder Cut

  • @jonesusc85
    @jonesusc85 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A young Superman is what we always see we need to see him in his prime taking on galactic threats brainiac, Mongul etc

    • @quickie17
      @quickie17 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      THIS , he's fucking superman

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. That shining light Superman, allstar superman type of feel. We never got that with Henry Cavill, who was great in the role.

    • @blaxpoitation8528
      @blaxpoitation8528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Straight facts. We need to see Supes take on the likes of Brainiac, Metallo, Mongul, Despero and the likes. Enough with the “Superman learning his powers” thing. It’s been tired bruv

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s not super young he’s been Superman for a bit.

  • @aniketdev1157
    @aniketdev1157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WBD is the reason! They don't even know who is perfect for this role and just gets flattered on those who have given successful movies or franchises in Marvel and picks them accordingly!

  • @LONEWOLF-np7dn
    @LONEWOLF-np7dn ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can't believe Marvel is about to do Phase 5 and 6 but DC Can't even handle their movies 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

    • @ShakaHapa
      @ShakaHapa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yet DC has had many amazing movies and way better animated movies. They just need a cohesive movie universe. Also marvel has had many stinkers lol

    • @XxXDestroyer
      @XxXDestroyer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShakaHapa They both have had good and medicore movies. But the DCEU has a far worse track record and 10 years later is stll trying to get their connected universe together.

    • @koalabrownie
      @koalabrownie 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Recent marvel movies have been all terrible. Only thing good was from Fox.

  • @ejleoz21
    @ejleoz21 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I agree we don’t need a new origin story, but the writing for superman has to be done so he has some kind of arc. Similar to how they did Spiderman with Holland, we skip the shit we’ve seen already but there was still mad growth.

    • @Keizi
      @Keizi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      james gunn confirmed it wont be an origin story or take place in smallville.

    • @jordangibbish7701
      @jordangibbish7701 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Keizi This will either be interesting, or it will be the worst Superman movie since Superman Returns

    • @Keizi
      @Keizi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordangibbish7701 Superman returns maybe a worse movie than man of steel but it’s a better Superman movie in my opinion. But I have faith in Gunn, he writes very character driven stories and makes you care so much about characters within minutes, Gunn hasn’t missed once in his comic book related projects so I have a lot of confidence he will bring something great to fruition!

    • @ChadBenjamin
      @ChadBenjamin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@KeiziI don't get the people who say this. In what way did Superman Returns feel more like a Superman story than Man of Steel did? It's like people only know Superman through the Christopher Reeve films.

    • @Keizi
      @Keizi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChadBenjamin well man of steel is an origin story but returns captures the character a lot better. Zod of course is a 100x better villain than spacey’s Luthor but the film manages to capture plenty of Superman iconography and captures it with heart whereas I feel Snyder captured man of steel with more “epic” which is fine if you loved that then happy for you, just didn’t do much for me personally. It’s a better movie than Superman returns absolutely… just not a better Superman movie in my opinion.

  • @shiningnight12
    @shiningnight12 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Starting with Green Arrow is a great idea. You can have Speedy and the Seven Soldiers of victory which implies other METAs and the JSA. Also green arrow and speedy are like more relatable and human versions of Batman and Robin which is one of the reasons why Green Arrow was great in the DCAU from JLA in the early 2000s. Also Green Arrow could be DC's RDJ

    • @MSgt_0699
      @MSgt_0699 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Gunn is smart he will steer clear of all the sidekick crap. Fans seem to refuse to realize what those movies would look like. There's a reason Burton, Nolan, Snyder, and Reeves refused Robin. It alters the dynamic and compromises Batman. Fans want their heroes to be serious...but hang out with children sidekicks?! It doesn't work. Light-hearted, comedic, self-mockery would be the result.

    • @shiningnight12
      @shiningnight12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MSgt_0699 did you really just say don't involve the sidekicks like young justice and teen titans aren't the some of the greatest DC animated properties for general audiences. Legacy is the backbone of DC that Marvel doesn't have. Well they kinda do but the mcu will never use it properly.

    • @MSgt_0699
      @MSgt_0699 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shiningnight12 Ugh...yeah. You just made my point. You referred to Young Justice and Teen Titans as great cartoons. The problem here is that absolutely everything can work as a cartoon, but fans think that this means that it will translate to live-action.
      Suspend disbelief to watch Batman be Batman. But suspend disbelief to watch Batman hang out with a ninth grader? That nonsense doesn't work. I can't imagine a tone and presentation that would make fans happy.

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว

      No don’t start with Green Arrow. James Gunn statements make it seem he isn’t anyway. Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman is the core of DC. Green Arrow might be next though.

    • @simmyshiundu3330
      @simmyshiundu3330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Starting with the flash would be so much better. Flash has quite an interesting rogues gallery list.

  • @AayushSapkota812
    @AayushSapkota812 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    first, i agree with what jei is saying like we don't need another superman origin story or a young superman who's just started working at the daily planet and learning about his powers but have a superman who is ready to fight galactic threats and not stay on earth 24/7, have a superman who can take on brainiac or darkseid.

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Gunn confirmed it isn’t an origin story. The interesting thing is that Superman has a lot of villains but the majority won’t translate well to live action but having James Gunn write it he’s probably the most willing to have bizarre villains or characters

  • @Theroyalg288
    @Theroyalg288 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My best super man ever, no one could play your role better than you as a Superman

  • @tboards71
    @tboards71 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If Marvel was as smart and together as we think they are, they will be on the phone at this moment, offering Cavill a Marvel role!

    • @krysisstorm2703
      @krysisstorm2703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Factz!

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว

      No character goes over the actor at Marvel. If they don’t have a suitable role even if there are characters that he might do well in if that character isn’t in the plan they won’t get him. They won’t shoehorn a random character just to get an actor. There have been talks with Keanu Reeves at Marvel but they haven’t put him in a anything because no character fits at the moment. They’re not going to hire him just to spit in DC face.

  • @PrincessSarah090288
    @PrincessSarah090288 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Black Adam was decent...Watch it with no volume"🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tomimdawodu6808
    @tomimdawodu6808 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mid 20s Superman is a way to go like 25-27 he has a few years as Superman in the public eye under his belt he’s made a few mistakes he has experience! this issue this movie HAS TO BE NEAR DAMN PERFECT like the fate of DC is relying on this movie they need a HUGE win ! Big win ! they need this Bad ! James Gunn has a lot of pressure to find the next Superman

  • @KUNGLO
    @KUNGLO ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They could do Green Lantern film in the style of star wars/Guardian. In like the first day of Lantern at GL Corps. Make like a space cop gritty with sarcasm fish out water film. But the green lantern is Guy Gardner ... Earth's favourite A$$ hole. And we know James Gunn can direct a$$hole characters and make them lovable rogues. Real talk I hope Gunn is able to pull this reboot off!

  • @kwekueghana3683
    @kwekueghana3683 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Give me a Dr Fate psychological thriller with Nobu and Pierce Bronson constantly fighting for control

  • @ejleoz21
    @ejleoz21 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You man killed it with the Green Arrow shout

  • @john976431
    @john976431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not only did they do Henry dirty they did Michael Keaton dirty. Michael Keaton was supposed to come back as the OG Batman and then they scrap that idea re-shot everything and then he’s out. Batgirl was out before she even gotta a chance. Black Adam was supposed to be Rated R.

  • @LONEWOLF-np7dn
    @LONEWOLF-np7dn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Henry moves to Marvel and become Hyperion

  • @MSgt_0699
    @MSgt_0699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Gunn is as fit as anybody else. The problem is that the former WB executives created a situation so bad that not many people even wanted the job. But no matter who took it, this soup sandwich of a DCEU had to be put down. And you can't reboot into a "DCU" holding on to this or that actors while releasing others. It just wouldn't feel right seeing Cavill interact with a completely different actor as Batman. What they should do is scrap this obsession to create a shared universe and make epic Superman films with Cavill. Leave the shared crap to Marvel, where heroes have dance offs with villains in the middle of a battle or twerk in offices.

  • @SoundDisconnected
    @SoundDisconnected ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The idea you guys came up with in this discussion are great!

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree especially the green arrow idea

  • @Billturby
    @Billturby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James Gunn has said there will be TV/Movie crossover so, what if there are no Origin movies but instead a HBO series called: Origins with one episode dedicated to the origins of each hero who has a movie.

  • @randomcomment5840
    @randomcomment5840 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was in tears for the whole last 6 minutes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tranquilk5912
    @tranquilk5912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:02 don't know about anyone else I was waiting for the Kingdom Come evolving superman. My favourite dc comic besides injustice and my favourite superman even though I'm not a huge red Cape guy

  • @GHOST6472
    @GHOST6472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get Sam, Joe and Raven up with James Gunn, these guys have great ideas which can help build the next DC universe

  • @julioluna6499
    @julioluna6499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m betting money that James Gunn steps down before he makes anything

  • @W0NK042
    @W0NK042 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gunn has replied to a Tweet, stating that it won't be another origin story. It will be picking up following Clark/Superman where we find him at (So it could well be a Year 1 thing).

  • @sethl3512
    @sethl3512 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    James gun clearly said when he wanted a younger Superman, he specifically said that Superman would already be working at the daily planet, so when he means younger, he means probably 25 to 28, so no, not brightburn young

    • @jordangibbish7701
      @jordangibbish7701 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd personally go with Penn Badgley from You to play Superman aka Clark Kent

  • @Keizi
    @Keizi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get what Jei is saying but we have a mature Superman right now in Superman & Lois which to me is easily by far the best modern adaptation of the character

  • @MattyB207
    @MattyB207 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤣 The Tom Cruise/Rogue Squadron segment of this video had me LIT EXCITED!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Cognizant1
    @Cognizant1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm with Blitztek on the Superman thing. All Gunn said was that he wanted a young Superman. He literally responded to a fan and said he wasn't doing an origin story. What Gunn said is closer to The Batman then starting with Clark starting out from being an origin story.

  • @john976431
    @john976431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are 2 people that got to go Peter and James

  • @OBELISK3210
    @OBELISK3210 ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘Watch it with no volume’ fucking sent me 💀💀💀💀😭😭😭🤣😅

  • @benj97s
    @benj97s ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad cos I felt he could done good as a more inspired lighter hopeful Superman, but its clear Gunn is getting rid of all these SnyderVerse assosiated actors to disassociate with all that mess. Whether it be with the Toxic side of Snyders Fandom or just the messy universe. A true clean FRESH start, no baggage

  • @amurr2530
    @amurr2530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FACTS , leave batman alone for a while . They could just kinda hint as him as a myth or ghost story and then straight up drop him in a project nobody is expecting , that'd break the internet if he was revealed in a final trailer or something when that time comes

  • @ProperCh
    @ProperCh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If we look at what made the original MCU the phenomenon it was and how it was kickstarted I think it was due to the digestibility of it, it catered to both oldschool comic readers (who knew Ironman and Cap) and also to the new generation who was inspired by heroes and their teamup. Start it with light-hearted, family friendly, digestible movies (unlike The Batman) and then drop the beginnings of the JL.
    IMO the new universe has to begin with Superman, he is literally the perfect character for it, even better than Ironman and Cap. Gunn can do whatever he wants regarding the story but the movie that comes out has to be good in terms of script, writing, tone, CGI, star peformance, etc. Once you put out a solid Superman movie it will cement him as the OG of the new Justice League, make him likeable and make audiences want to see more of him. Then the next I think should be Wonder Woman, she presents female representation and a the duo of Supes and WW will be a strong anchor for the new JL. Next should be Shazam, using him you can appeal to the kid audience who can identify with Shazam and delve into the mystical side of the DC universe. Most important of all these 3 will remain relatively light-hearted and kid friendly. Final 2 members of the starting lineup I think is Green Arrow and Green Lantern, Green arrow will be the most human of them all, present a cocky attitude and joke around (similar to Hawkeye role). Since they need a tech guy I wouldnt be mad if they gave Green Arrow that role. Then Green Lantern will be the catalyst for the actual "universe" portion of it, he will bring the big threat that they need to teamup against. Whether it is Darkseid, Braniac, Starro, Sinestro, etc. Also will be another cocky brash youngster to the team.
    Notice how I left out Batman, this is because I think he is too dark for the JL off bat, also because of the direction Reeves is going with him. I agree he should be kept out until Reeves finishes with him then introduce Batman to an established JL. Batman should come in first as an anti-hero, in fact he can battle against the JL at first before joining them.
    Point is there is literally so much you can build in this universe but it all hinges on these first few movies. Do Superman, Wonder Woman and Shazam/Green Arrow. Get them right and it will be a no-brainer. The only sticky fact is we will need some time to get rid of the image of the Snyderverse. If you do another Superman movie next year, the comparisons will be inevitable. I think to do this universe fully properly it needs atleast 5 yr gap between which is sad for us DC fans.

  • @rashadjones
    @rashadjones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m glad you all are being realistic about the future of the DCU and I’m 30/70 on Tom Cruise in a X-wing 😂😂😂

  • @JeeSingh21
    @JeeSingh21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cavills Man of steel 'was' a young superman! It was a friggin origin story how much younger can you get. Even BVS and ZSJL was relatively young.

    • @aniketdev1157
      @aniketdev1157 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is! James Gunn is a freaking clown he doesn't even know what he is talking about!

  • @LONEWOLF-np7dn
    @LONEWOLF-np7dn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the worst decision done

  • @DROPPEDBYTOSAYDIE
    @DROPPEDBYTOSAYDIE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would it be crazy insane if James Gunn brings back Zach Snyder to begin another universe again lol or a slap in the face to everyone?

    • @supergv2235
      @supergv2235 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      first thing first Zack would not agree to being part of that 😂 he had a vision... he's not going to carry out some other dudes plan

    • @husman2007
      @husman2007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supergv2235 zac had zero vision!!! That was the problem.

  • @john976431
    @john976431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ll take a Green Arrow movie

  • @jellightskinhd4498
    @jellightskinhd4498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If James gunn introduces the mortal kombat universe aswell he’ll win everything

  • @astroinfinityx549
    @astroinfinityx549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe preach my man I don't wanna see a younger superman bro

  • @DjinnFrosty
    @DjinnFrosty ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a Lantern Corps tv show, and then a Green lantern movie as the follow up

  • @blackmanta2527
    @blackmanta2527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's just disappointing that we might have to wait 5 years to get exited for DCU.

  • @clarissa182
    @clarissa182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fan commented to the post and said, "Dear god, don't tell me it's a origin story" and Gunn said it is not an origin story. Phew...

  • @AlexFrancisOfficial
    @AlexFrancisOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Joe is spot on here

    • @teeowen
      @teeowen ปีที่แล้ว

      100%, especially on the Henry Cavill treatment

  • @johnnymano4480
    @johnnymano4480 ปีที่แล้ว

    With what James Gunn did with Peacemaker, being just a regular human it's the best idea to start with Green Arrow, Black canary and Deathstroke... could be awesome.

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. He has even stated Superman is the foundation. That Trinity Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman is the core of the universe. Especially Superman who’s there most valuable IP why wait more time to make a new one.

  • @thegreatexpansebyjonbap4266
    @thegreatexpansebyjonbap4266 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we need to start, we should go backwards to the Justice Society of America; Dr. Midnight, Hourman, Citizen Steel, Dr. Fate, The Sandman, Black Canary, Green Lantern (Alan Scott - the one who's vulnerable to wood), and their primary foe could be Dr. Destiny, of whom Skeletor took his look, and not the other way around. This way the story happens on Earth. We can do the Green Lantern Corps later on, because it should be given the type of seriousness that involves an entire trilogy!

  • @danielkeller1337
    @danielkeller1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitive answer is how did he even get put in charge of the poor mistakes that he's causing. The downfall of DC was destined to happen after Snyder was let go for sure. Any director no matter who is as good as Snyder. He's a visionary and makes great movies that make sense to true DC fans. Not his Christopher Reeves character types of movies. That should be completely in the past. Especially for the current era that we're in now. It's not as jolly and good as it used to be.

  • @ROCKBETHENAME
    @ROCKBETHENAME ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Y’all said who was a Mr Terrific but the same could be said for daredevil, luke cage, Jessica Jones, Antman etc all not Tier A characters but marvel made it work. Either way they def need to launch with a character that hasn’t been used in years or EVER & Green arrow is a great choice

  • @LordSaull
    @LordSaull ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you guys can’t watch a movie because it ties to something and not continuing anymore. Movies are by themselves one -shot so watch it like any other movie. This ideas of not watching dc movies because that universe is over is just funny

  • @davidmayo5549
    @davidmayo5549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro... Nobody wants to see an original story of Superman how many movies have we watched when they showed him as a teenager. We should be seeing Superman at his prime right now

  • @MastrWindusGAMINGTemple
    @MastrWindusGAMINGTemple ปีที่แล้ว

    Martian Manhunter is a good insert to me. He’s a outer space character that can be on earth. Can turn into maybe some characters that we wonder is in the world already can only see them from the back or his head could be alien but the body can have maybe a shazam outfit so we can wonder are these characters coming to this universe?

  • @ItsjusUno
    @ItsjusUno ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used Henry to sell the movies.🤦‍♂️

  • @RhoneM
    @RhoneM ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to start with Green Lantern, then go with Allen Scott. Let's you set it on earth and gives WB a chance to let it just breathe as it's own movie and see how people feel about it

  • @mydreaminorbit9297
    @mydreaminorbit9297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Snyderverse ran through way too many storylines way too quickly. While burning them to the ground. I'm all for a reset, as I'm loyal to the DC characters first before the actors. James Gunn's version is not coming out of the womb. A young Superman can beat the crap out of most characters. Gunn's has already said this isn't a origin story.

  • @steph9923
    @steph9923 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys need to make a video of what movies you guys would make if you were the head of Dc. So basically your slate.

  • @xzariesviews
    @xzariesviews ปีที่แล้ว

    My guys !! Yall reacting to Combat God's 1&2 ?

  • @natsohigh5552
    @natsohigh5552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's not qualified to helm a whole studio.
    He has two successful films to his name (GotG 1 & 2)
    By that logic Patty Jenkins is qualified to helm DC since she also has two successful films to her name 😂🥴😭
    It just doesn't make sense 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @artdogg50
      @artdogg50 ปีที่แล้ว

      He must have pitched something to them to convince them he knows what he's doing. People forget he was actually fired for things he said were deemed offensive and then brought back because they thought people overreacted I guess. It can't be based on his history, which is questionable on both sides on the film. I don't get it either.

  • @DanY-gx2dv
    @DanY-gx2dv ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Even the people who don't like Snyder's DC films love Cavill, it's absolutely insane that they've got rid of him just after he finally got to come back for the first time in half a decade. I'm just glad his story ends on a positive note in Zack Snyder's Justice League. Knightmare vision aside 😅

    • @Pietothesky
      @Pietothesky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not insane. Cavills Superman was expensive & always under performed at the box office. Not everything is a creative decision. DC film couldn’t afford to continue any version of the Snyderverse, a couple more flops could do the studio in.

    • @artdogg50
      @artdogg50 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Pietothesky Cavill has only been in 1 solo Superman movie that I know. And Gunn's last Suicide movie failed to make more than it's budget, but I don't see him firing himself. To me most of the other DC films just need better scripts. Alienating your audience by firing everyone they can possibly love is a recipe for disaster. Well like the OP said, he better know what's he's doing because the franchise isn't actually dead yet, but he has the ability to truly make it soar or drive it completely over the cliff.

    • @userious258
      @userious258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artdogg50 You can’t compare the Suicide Squad to Henry Cavill’s situation. Suicide Squad was in the pandemic, on day and date on HBOMax, and had to deal with the baggage of the first. There’s to much baggage with DC if the car has to many broken pieces you trying to make patch jobs won’t make it feel brand new.

  • @kbheath76
    @kbheath76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No disrespect James Gunn doesn't know what he is doing. That's a trash move

  • @krysisstorm2703
    @krysisstorm2703 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 movies in the first year. Superheroes exist and are accepted. Start with a Swamp thing horror movie(Let John Constantine do a cameo),a Greew Arrow Spy/action movie(with Black Canary as a side character), a Blue Beetle movie that takes place during WW1 and is more of a Indiana Jones movie with the original archeologist who finds the scarab and doesn't unlock its power until the final act.

    • @krysisstorm2703
      @krysisstorm2703 ปีที่แล้ว

      Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman should all have been known and operating for at least 2-5 years. They should all met at least once by this point. Dick Grayson should already be in the picture and be about 15-16yrs old. Themyscira should still be hidden from the world, Lois Lane hasn't figured out who clark is just yet. 2nd year 3 movies, Superman against Lex arms dealing(Lois figures it out), 2nd, Batman and Robin have beef butt work it out, but robin still leaves the Bludhaven to become Nightwing, 3 Cyborg movie, origin done in a flashback. Fights against a invasion of Biotechno Alien race.

  • @KellyKels23
    @KellyKels23 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first ones I’ve watched that have said Cavill right lol. I’m just going to have to wait and see who they cast as the new Superman, hopefully their casting still does a great job.

    • @ReadingOne
      @ReadingOne ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, I'd say that the way that Henry himself pronounces his last name is the 'right' way, and he doesn't pronounce it the way that they do.

  • @ultrainstinctgenesis93
    @ultrainstinctgenesis93 ปีที่แล้ว

    If these movies that James Gunn have planned and they flop? It's going to be madness at WB.

  • @kevjohn2006
    @kevjohn2006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supposedly they're gonna cast Carl from Walking Dead in the Superman role. 🤷🏿

  • @clarissa182
    @clarissa182 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure y'all seen this by now, but Black Adam 2 has been shelved. It's not part of "phase 1". They have cut all of Keaton and Affleck's scenes from I believe Aquaman as well.

  • @k3n12ock
    @k3n12ock ปีที่แล้ว

    Its fine and no going back now. Be happy the DCU is getting revamped vS being salty certain actors are no longer in roles

  • @Wxlf.
    @Wxlf. ปีที่แล้ว

    36:08 I said Green Arrow before the video was half way lol. Perfect start.
    Don’t think we need black canary to be black though lol. Some of the ethnicity changes are highly unnecessary

  • @TheMimeFromHell
    @TheMimeFromHell ปีที่แล้ว

    Gunn stated on instagram last night that he hasn't booted Gal Gadot out of her role of Wonder Woman. 🤷‍♂️ And also Henry Cavill is 39 years old, Robert Pattinson is 36.✌👍

  • @koalabrownie
    @koalabrownie 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately origin stories seem to be the most interesting. Probably because when once a person becomes that character, the character tends to be pretty static.

  • @gq_pleazure9428
    @gq_pleazure9428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James Gunn refuted that Matt Reeves The Batman is not going to be part of this new universe

  • @novembersvengeance6815
    @novembersvengeance6815 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Martian manhunter

  • @amurr2530
    @amurr2530 ปีที่แล้ว

    VANDAL SAVAGE , listen a movie or show with him starting as a caveman and going through time and all of the different civilizations and eras . Then end it present day with him beginning the formation of the legion of doom or being confronted by a hero or two

  • @chadhenderson1846
    @chadhenderson1846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darkseid origin story to start off

  • @yusufbey1587
    @yusufbey1587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t give af about a young Superman in metropolis reporting Henry is our Superman

    • @ShakaHapa
      @ShakaHapa ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry was amazing but other actors can play Clark

    • @yusufbey1587
      @yusufbey1587 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShakaHapa true and I think Tyler is good as Clark but cmon man we saw darkseid Henry is the people’s Superman we don’t care about an origin story about a reporter we wanna see kal at the height of his power

  • @jacobsultd
    @jacobsultd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother's.. A younger Superman?? Ok. Don't they have the FX to make Cavill look younger? In the Irishman, they had DeNiro looking like a young man. They can do the same. It's a weak excuse to me. I'm tired of new origin orders.

  • @SuperDG333
    @SuperDG333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starting with Green Arrow is a great idea 💡

  • @nate8604
    @nate8604 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody wants old superheroes Jei. Green Arrow isn’t popular enough for fans to know his origin. But I do agree with bringing him and Batman together.

  • @anthonyconrad4921
    @anthonyconrad4921 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should have made ZSJL 2 & 3 to finish that arc with Man of Steel 2 and Aquaman 2 and Wonder Woman 3 in between them. Then END the DCEU with the Flash movie rewriting the whole slate. As a non toxic Zack Snyder fan I would have been okay with this. To have everything just cut off and people get fired after they are told they are coming back. THAT in itself is toxic.

  • @markking8105
    @markking8105 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s good fellas. Start from the bottom( green arrow) to get to the top.

  • @mralfonzohoward5175
    @mralfonzohoward5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    The official DC STUDIOS starts in 2024

  • @swacfan100
    @swacfan100 ปีที่แล้ว

    I blame the old regime of the WB. And though I understand James Gunn's decisions, the Superman situation is so unfair to Henry Cavill. He's been a class act.
    I hate the Snyderverse isnt returning but, it what it is. I place full blame on the old WB regime for wasting ALL this time. I'm hoping for DC to rise again.

  • @LordSaull
    @LordSaull ปีที่แล้ว

    When he says young he probably meant like 20s early 30s Superman. No origin story but a Superman already in metropolis working at the daily planet. Not a teenager Superman or superbou

  • @thakingofdetroit
    @thakingofdetroit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gunn fumbled this one imo....even the people that don't vibe with Snyder's films, like Cavills Superman....nobody cares about a young Superman movie lol

  • @KappoJK
    @KappoJK ปีที่แล้ว

    I always loved DC comics. Some of the movies it has spawned have been legit. I remember watching Batman (1989) as a kid. It was one of the first movies I remember seeing in a theatre. At the time it was the most amazing thing I’d seen. This whole cohesive DC movie universe has utterly collapsed. Perhaps a reboot is needed, or perhaps DC should just give up on the idea and make great movies that are not connected to each other in an overarching story.

  • @TheMimeFromHell
    @TheMimeFromHell ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah , We need a Superman in his prime kicking Brainiac/Lobos ass.✌

  • @Pietothesky
    @Pietothesky ปีที่แล้ว

    The 2023 movies are already expected losses. You should still support them because they could be quality movies.

  • @TheRealPakMan1
    @TheRealPakMan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    They could change the end of flash, make it where the old dcu gets destroyed to save the other universes.

  • @righteousrawb7225
    @righteousrawb7225 ปีที่แล้ว

    DC NEEDS TO HIRE YOU LOT

  • @TheAvargas687
    @TheAvargas687 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I know is if his new superman flops he and DC will never recover and the trust thing will never be repaired, should of stayed with Henry in my opinion, great show BTW big fan

  • @ImNotHereEither
    @ImNotHereEither ปีที่แล้ว

    The MCU did something even the MCU can’t repeat or emulate. It was a phenomenon the likes of which we won’t see again. It’s not a model, it was magic in s bottle. It can’t and shouldn’t be an overarching framework for how comic books can be adapted for the screen. DC have some of the best characters, just create great stories. No more universes. Just great individual films allowing for creative diversity as you currently have with The Joker or Pattinson’s Batman. The problem are the scripts. Start with great scripts and everything else will follow.

  • @TheRonellCross
    @TheRonellCross ปีที่แล้ว

    Flashpoint is going to erase the snyderverse and bring Matt Reeves Batman, and Gadot's Wonder Woman into the Gunn universe. Amanda Waller might be the only one to survive from Taskforce X.

  • @fortunelekoto6704
    @fortunelekoto6704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yeah, fans are going crazy, but honestly I don't blame Gunn completely, I blame the old WB regime for the mess they left, but to just flat out ditch Henry Cavil out of the blue, after how he got treated though, not like this, at least give us a conclusion or something with JL2 and JL3 to the chaacters, but the Superman movie that James Gunn wants to create sounds a lot like the animated movie Superman: Man of Tomorrow, with young Supes and Lobo, it's gonna take a while for WB to regain the trust of the fans, but at least James Gunn is open

    • @ejleoz21
      @ejleoz21 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats the point? It has no future why waste money for sentiment?

    • @fortunelekoto6704
      @fortunelekoto6704 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ejleoz21 i know, I know, but not like this, then wht's the point of seeing the next DCEU movies being released next year, at the very least those ones better give closure to the characters and not be open ended or sequel promising

    • @ejleoz21
      @ejleoz21 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fortunelekoto6704 perhaps those movies are too far in development? I’m surprised he didn’t scrap the whole thing.

    • @fortunelekoto6704
      @fortunelekoto6704 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ejleoz21 perhaps,

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically, Henry Cavill was doomed since Man Of Steel came out. Folks just didn’t like Zack Snyder’s take on the character, or the films thereafter; his Justice League was better than Joss Whedon’s’, but that ain’t saying much at this point. Gunn had to do what he had to do.

  • @stefffenleth81
    @stefffenleth81 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you make a new univers and keep suicide squad and peacekeeper?

  • @olijadu
    @olijadu ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes no sense for Aquaman to come out end of next year, zero excitement will be coming from fans knowing that this universe is done. how can u possible be exicted for it.

  • @mralfonzohoward5175
    @mralfonzohoward5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    People want the 1978 boy scout version
    People have not gotten over SUPERMAN
    Killing zod
    The same age as Robert Paterson

  • @TheAvargas687
    @TheAvargas687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody wants to see a teenage or young 20s Clark Kent/ superman, we've seen that already ,James Gunn better know wtf he's doing ,,make a serious tone super DC stuff ,not no comedy marvel woke nonsense

    • @Ronin-kk4bt
      @Ronin-kk4bt ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s got be a Man!!🤣

  • @iam_ad629
    @iam_ad629 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we want DC to be great for a decade then they have to reboot. Kevin feige would have done the same thing. I don’t know why he’s writing a Superman movie but I trust the process. We can say marvel is up and down but their gonna survive for another decade.

  • @Traveler89_89
    @Traveler89_89 ปีที่แล้ว

    People are always gunna complain but James is building thru a ten year plan. He isn’t doing a short term thing. So being stuck on Cavill don’t help. Cavill had his time. Technically he should have had three Superman films and two justice league films. Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way. That’s okay. I have no issue with where gunn takes the DCU. He has also said it will be influenced by justice league unlimited and young justice. So I know it’s in good hands.

  • @KenpoKid77
    @KenpoKid77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hold up, didn't Cavill already say he was leaving to go produce and star in Warhammer? How do you fire someone who already left?

    • @W0NK042
      @W0NK042 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No. He left The Witcher, as they were straying so far from the books. After doing the cameo, WB said he was welcome back to the roll of Superman, but James Gunn said it wouldn't happen, as he is aiming younger (but not young-young). ;)

  • @LordSaull
    @LordSaull ปีที่แล้ว

    The first movie could be a Martian manhunter movie. People like him, he’s not been a in movie expect Zack Snyder jl and could tie into a Superman movie.
    That green arrow movie can’t work as the first movie out of gate.