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Excellent video. I really enjoyed your format. No BS, some humor and great encompassing info. Sub'd and looking forward to diving into your library for more.
Hey Ben, Pat here from Toronto. Here in Canada, we have had the benefit of using Robertson screws for as long as I can remember (60 yrs). I believe it was a Canadian who invented them. Personally I only use Robertson or Torx in all my woodworking projects.
Hi Pat! Yes I believe they are a Canadian invention. They definitely hold the screw well but I find the driver bits can quick wear down and then they start to cam out if you haven’t got enough pressure on which is why I prefer Torx. That being said, they’re still better than PH and PZ and don’t get me started on slotted screws! 😂
Just so you know, a torx is 2 robertson at 90 degree different to each other, I have used robertson in a torx head and it works, not as strong as the right torx. Yes robertson is a Canadian invention, I believe torx is an American invention. The US didn't like the Robertson just because it was Canadian, I knew some US carpenters that brought in robertson screws because they liked them.
@rolop847 that makes sense. The robertston holds the screw really well when you’re getting started but I find they are more likely to cam out compared to torx.
Yes, someone else has mentioned that to me since making this video. If I get nothing else from the comments I’m happy I’ve been told about the milescraft screws! They’re on my shopping list for sure!
Thanks mate. Just starting out in woodworking and you are the best presenter I’ve found so far. Bag of screws is a product we all have. I couldn’t find the link to the pocket hole side table. Sorry if it is obvious!
Hi, Ben. Like commenter Pat Pringle, I’m here in Toronto too. We have the great fortune of being quite used to Robertson screws. For many applications we can’t find anything else. We have to look in the “Punish Me” section to find Phillips. Yeah, we’ve got Torx etc., but find little need for them, eh? And THANK YOU! This is the best de-mystifying pocket hole video I’ve seen. I have a Kreg jig and have used pocket holes for bookcases and the like. I appreciated your section on when and when not to use pocket holes.
I clamp wood before screwing together but I also built a screw bed, if that is a the correct term, which is a bit of ply screwed on to 2 battens with the battens at a 90 degree angle. This allows me to push pieces of wood I am screwing together giving me something solid to push against giving me a perfect join
Hey man just wanted to say, I don't need a lot of woodworking videos (I don't do projects very often) but I did like AND subscribe because your video was 3 things that I absolutely need in every video: quick, witty, and well done. Twelve mins is kind of long but it flew by because of the other 2. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your kind words and for subscribing, it means a lot to me. I’m working on another video that hopefully will be fun and it’ll definitely be quick judging by how it’s looking so far 😂
If unable to find "pocket hole" screws, round washer head particle board screws are identical. They're often cheaper/easier to find than brand specific pocket hole screws.
Sorry, I thought I’d put it in the description. I’ll do it now but here’s the link: amzn.to/3PniI3X. It’s not cheap but it does a great job. My only advice is to drill nice and slowly rather than fast and you’ll get really neat plugs.
I'll stick with the Robertson drive, they've been around over a hundred years. Been using them since I was a kid. I worked at a Ford dealership in the late 60's and first noticed Torx screws starting to show up. Problem now is Textron has at least 4 different Torx designs (maybe 5) and the drivers don't all interchange. To add to the may-lay, I understand a German company has come up with a new Torx design. Don't be surprised if you don't have a driver for your next bag of Torx screws.
I've never used a Kreg jig, so I can't say which is better or worse, but I have been happy with my Milescraft jig set. And I prefer their T-head screws too. I wish they sold them in stainless.
Yeah I think most of the jigs out there are good to be fair. I love the Kreg 720 as it adjusts the clamp automatically based on the thickness of the wood which is a cool feature and the dust collection is excellent. That being said, it’s not cheap and you can get decent quality ones for much cheaper so it’s good to hear that you’ve had good experience with the milescraft one.
Fun Fact: A lot of "Old School" (know-it-alls) Woodworkers say that Pocket holes are a sign of poor craftsmanship or even that it's used by people who don't know joinery. That it's a modern invention for lazy people. Blah, Blah, Blah! There is evidence of Pocket hole joinery in ancient Egyptian furniture and all through out history. In the 18th Century there were special bits for hand drills for drilling out pocket holes. It wasn't until 1990, I think, that Kreg was smart enough to create a jig to make it easier. So, phooey on all of you "Old School" woodworkers. LoL! Great tips and thank you for sharing. You have a new subscriber. God bless.
Wow I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing. I think traditional joinery is beautiful but not needed in a lot of cases. Different strokes for different folks but it really annoys me when anyone puts someone else down for making something a different way. If they’ve gone to the effort to make rather than buy then fair play to them.
@@lionandbear I absolutely agree. I 100% adore fine joinery and am slightly jealous of those who can do it well. I say slightly because I haven't tried yet and am a firm believer in you can do anything as long as you are willing to learn. I'm sure I could do good joinery like the others, but I will always admire and respect those that I learn from and those who have come and gone. But, yes, don't knock someone who is learning and making the effort to do something. Be more encouraging rather than destroying them because they didn't do it the way you prefer. 1 Thessalonians 5:11 (ESV) "Therefore encourage one another and build one another up,..."
On the Kreg jigsaw there is the little tool that I show in the video. This corresponds to the instructions which tells you what to do. Each jig will have its own instructions on this so you’re best off reading them and hopefully if it’s a decent jig it’ll tell you what to do.
I haven’t done a video on masks specifically as I didn’t think it was worth it to be fair. I use the M Pro but I reckon the Plus could be a good one too but I’ve not tried it to be fair.
Is it "old school" or the difference between a professional and a hobbyist? In North America, the AWI / WI / NAAWS standards allow only four joinery methods for drawers. (Dowels, Biscuits, Lock Shoulder & Standard Dovetail) If an Architect finds out you've "cheated" the spec, he or she can have you replace the affected items it at your own cost.
I’d agree between the hobbyist and professional. Unfortunately a lot of people who do it as a hobby think that everyone else should do it the professional way regardless of skill or requirements. The beauty of doing it as a hobby is that there are no strict rights or wrongs.
At first I rejected Robertson screws, just due to having only one sqare bit to screw them. But found out how advantageous they are. The heads are very robust and the screws don't fall off the bit while using them single handedly. For other screws you need strong magnetic bits at least.
@ephemer7942 the bit staying attached to the screw is definitely best on a Robertson but I find they cam out quite easily and need fresh bits more regularly than torx though.
@@lionandbearEhh slotted screws are fine if A) you don't need to tap the threads with the screw itself and B) you don't need clamping pressure, like if you only need to fasten something to something else like a motherboard on a computer case or a thermostat to drywall, Phillips on the other hand can suck a big old goat turd the heads basically worthless, they don't clamp very well, the heads round out 90% of the time, the ubiquitous nature of them in the US means there's a good chance you're going to come across one an subsequently have to replace it at some point. Robertson ain't perfect either you get spin out on the screw head or the bit wears but what Robertson does great is that the shape allows for repeated engagement even with worn bits and worn screws, it does provide excellent clamping pressure to boot, the shop I work at has been using them for 30+ years without any failures or loose joints. That said I would prefer Torx to have the same pervasiveness as Philips, I've never worn a Torx bit out or cammed out a Torx screw, but at the same time I don't get a lot of opportunities to interact with them either, good luck finding them in the hardware stores, was at Lowe's looking for any wood screw that wasn't Philips the other day couldn't find any that weren't decking sized (2" plus) guess built to fail just makes too much money 😂
@paraxicgaming5743 great points! I agree with you about the torx. I’ve never had one cam out and it’s definitely a shame they aren’t used more regularly. I still disagree on the slotted screws though as they just slide out so easily if you’re at a slight angle or anything so they always go in the bin for me wherever possible.
Pocketholes are great for assembling "decorative" stuff. But if you require actual structural strength, like for example a bed frame, you're much better off using proper joints with a good glue.
Don't waste your money on the 320. Just get the bigger one. Once you're done buying clamps for the 320, you're only about $20 shy of the 720, which is FAR superior. Just save your money for the 720.
The clamps are useful for other things though so depends on what you need. The 320 can do 2x4 wood but the 720 can’t. I use the 720 for 90% of my stuff and absolutely love it so can’t argue with your point but I do still use the 320 and the clamp for other stuff so it’s a good entry way into pocket holes.
@@lionandbear - Ya. I hear ya. Truth be told, there are situations when the 320 is necessary, but like you, I use the larger one 99% of the time. I use the one made by Armor Tool, but they both do the same thing. Oh, and great video, by the way. It's really great that you provided the cutaway views to help people understand. Forgive me for not commenting on the goodness of your video right away! I am looking forward to checking out your other videos! Thanks again!!
Just go buy a Castle TSM-12. Lower angle, better holding, 10 times faster, and no, I have nothing to do with Castle, but I do own a TSM-12 and a TSM-30.
I’ve seen the castle machines and they look amazing but aren’t readily available in the UK and even if they are, £1,800 for the TSM-12 vs £140 for the kreg 720 is a big difference. Especially for hobbyists.
Pocket holes with glue do create a sufficiently strong joint for a lot of projects. Some people get their enjoyment from being able to build an approachable entry level project whereas some people enjoy the craft of doing traditional joinery so I’d have to disagree to a point as a joint can be permanent and strong by using a variety of different methods. Enjoyment absolutely comes into it, especially for hobbyists.
Not true. I’ve used them to build tables and the stretchers on the side table I built can hold my entire body weight. Depends on the use for them as they won’t be as strong as mortice and tennon for example but a lot of joints don’t need that level of strength.
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You had me at "screws in a bag"! Why hasn't any other TH-camr had fake sponsors. Hope you keep it up.
I’m thinking I might keep going with it for as long as I can think of things so feel free to give me some ideas!
I had to copy your video to my HD to watch it without obnoxious TH-cam ads. After that, it was a great video.
Excellent video. I really enjoyed your format. No BS, some humor and great encompassing info. Sub'd and looking forward to diving into your library for more.
Thank you!
Hey Ben, Pat here from Toronto. Here in Canada, we have had the benefit of using Robertson screws for as long as I can remember (60 yrs). I believe it was a Canadian who invented them. Personally I only use Robertson or Torx in all my woodworking projects.
Hi Pat! Yes I believe they are a Canadian invention. They definitely hold the screw well but I find the driver bits can quick wear down and then they start to cam out if you haven’t got enough pressure on which is why I prefer Torx. That being said, they’re still better than PH and PZ and don’t get me started on slotted screws! 😂
Just so you know, a torx is 2 robertson at 90 degree different to each other, I have used robertson in a torx head and it works, not as strong as the right torx. Yes robertson is a Canadian invention, I believe torx is an American invention. The US didn't like the Robertson just because it was Canadian, I knew some US carpenters that brought in robertson screws because they liked them.
@rolop847 that makes sense. The robertston holds the screw really well when you’re getting started but I find they are more likely to cam out compared to torx.
@@rolop847The US Army requested a war time waiving of patent rights. Robertson refused
Milescraft sells pocket hole jigs and screws and their screws are Torx (‘star’) head.
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Yes, someone else has mentioned that to me since making this video. If I get nothing else from the comments I’m happy I’ve been told about the milescraft screws! They’re on my shopping list for sure!
I would imagine you can use these Torx screws with the Kreg Jig?
@Bebonkin yeah they’ll definitely work with the Kreg. They look to be exactly the same just with Torx heads. I’m ridiculously excited about these 😂😂
Came here to mention the Milescraft torx pocket hole screws...I prefer these to the Robertsons which I round over way too often😂
Great video content. Love the pocket hole orientation explanation - right on!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks mate. Just starting out in woodworking and you are the best presenter I’ve found so far. Bag of screws is a product we all have.
I couldn’t find the link to the pocket hole side table. Sorry if it is obvious!
Thanks mate, I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. You’re absolutely right and I missed the video link in the comments. It should be there now though.
Hi, Ben. Like commenter Pat Pringle, I’m here in Toronto too. We have the great fortune of being quite used to Robertson screws. For many applications we can’t find anything else. We have to look in the “Punish Me” section to find Phillips. Yeah, we’ve got Torx etc., but find little need for them, eh? And THANK YOU! This is the best de-mystifying pocket hole video I’ve seen. I have a Kreg jig and have used pocket holes for bookcases and the like. I appreciated your section on when and when not to use pocket holes.
Thanks for the comment. I love the “punish me” section 😂😂
Great video , no time wasting and good points made , I’ve subscribed!
Thank you!
I clamp wood before screwing together but I also built a screw bed, if that is a the correct term, which is a bit of ply screwed on to 2 battens with the battens at a 90 degree angle. This allows me to push pieces of wood I am screwing together giving me something solid to push against giving me a perfect join
So much good information and tips in one video.. rarely comment on videos but had to say. Subbed
Thank you so much!
Hello from France 🇫🇷 and Bravo 👏🏻 for this very good explanation video.
Hello there my French cousin! Thanks for your kind words.
Great video. Loads of tips
Hey man just wanted to say, I don't need a lot of woodworking videos (I don't do projects very often) but I did like AND subscribe because your video was 3 things that I absolutely need in every video: quick, witty, and well done. Twelve mins is kind of long but it flew by because of the other 2. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your kind words and for subscribing, it means a lot to me. I’m working on another video that hopefully will be fun and it’ll definitely be quick judging by how it’s looking so far 😂
great vid Ben - please continue to share
Thank you!
If unable to find "pocket hole" screws, round washer head particle board screws are identical.
They're often cheaper/easier to find than brand specific pocket hole screws.
Excellent video - thanks!
I made a partition wall in my basement using just pocket holes. They are quite amazing.
Well done video. Thanks.
This is so informative 👏🏽 👌 🇿🇲, thanks.
Thank you
Great video, Ben!
Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙏
Do you have a link to the plug cutter you had in your video?
Sorry, I thought I’d put it in the description. I’ll do it now but here’s the link: amzn.to/3PniI3X. It’s not cheap but it does a great job. My only advice is to drill nice and slowly rather than fast and you’ll get really neat plugs.
Subscribed.
Thank you! 🙏
I'll stick with the Robertson drive, they've been around over a hundred years. Been using them since I was a kid. I worked at a Ford dealership in the late 60's and first noticed Torx screws starting to show up. Problem now is Textron has at least 4 different Torx designs (maybe 5) and the drivers don't all interchange. To add to the may-lay, I understand a German company has come up with a new Torx design. Don't be surprised if you don't have a driver for your next bag of Torx screws.
Great video 👌🏻
If you're looking for pocket hole screws with TORX heads, Milescraft do them. They also make better pocket hole jigs than Kreg too - in my opinion.
Oh that’s awesome! I’ve never seen them so will definitely be having a look. Thanks for the tip!
I've never used a Kreg jig, so I can't say which is better or worse, but I have been happy with my Milescraft jig set. And I prefer their T-head screws too.
I wish they sold them in stainless.
Yeah I think most of the jigs out there are good to be fair. I love the Kreg 720 as it adjusts the clamp automatically based on the thickness of the wood which is a cool feature and the dust collection is excellent. That being said, it’s not cheap and you can get decent quality ones for much cheaper so it’s good to hear that you’ve had good experience with the milescraft one.
Great informative video
Well done, Sir, well done indeed.
Thank you!
Fun Fact: A lot of "Old School" (know-it-alls) Woodworkers say that Pocket holes are a sign of poor craftsmanship or even that it's used by people who don't know joinery. That it's a modern invention for lazy people. Blah, Blah, Blah! There is evidence of Pocket hole joinery in ancient Egyptian furniture and all through out history. In the 18th Century there were special bits for hand drills for drilling out pocket holes. It wasn't until 1990, I think, that Kreg was smart enough to create a jig to make it easier. So, phooey on all of you "Old School" woodworkers. LoL!
Great tips and thank you for sharing. You have a new subscriber. God bless.
Wow I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing. I think traditional joinery is beautiful but not needed in a lot of cases. Different strokes for different folks but it really annoys me when anyone puts someone else down for making something a different way. If they’ve gone to the effort to make rather than buy then fair play to them.
@@lionandbear I absolutely agree. I 100% adore fine joinery and am slightly jealous of those who can do it well. I say slightly because I haven't tried yet and am a firm believer in you can do anything as long as you are willing to learn. I'm sure I could do good joinery like the others, but I will always admire and respect those that I learn from and those who have come and gone. But, yes, don't knock someone who is learning and making the effort to do something. Be more encouraging rather than destroying them because they didn't do it the way you prefer.
1 Thessalonians 5:11 (ESV) "Therefore encourage one another and build one another up,..."
How do you measure how to set up the collar on the drill bit so you drill the hole the correct length
On the Kreg jigsaw there is the little tool that I show in the video. This corresponds to the instructions which tells you what to do. Each jig will have its own instructions on this so you’re best off reading them and hopefully if it’s a decent jig it’ll tell you what to do.
Sorry if I have missed the vid, which of the base camp masks do you use/recommend?
I haven’t done a video on masks specifically as I didn’t think it was worth it to be fair. I use the M Pro but I reckon the Plus could be a good one too but I’ve not tried it to be fair.
Thanx for advice👍
No problem. Hope it was helpful
If u don’t want to use the Robertson square head screw use the Milescraft pocket hole screws there the T-20 and T-25
Someone has mentioned them and they’re on my shopping list to get. Just need to work my way through all my Roberson ones first 😂
Really miss the Hi-Lo screws.
Is it "old school" or the difference between a professional and a hobbyist? In North America, the AWI / WI / NAAWS standards allow only four joinery methods for drawers. (Dowels, Biscuits, Lock Shoulder & Standard Dovetail) If an Architect finds out you've "cheated" the spec, he or she can have you replace the affected items it at your own cost.
I’d agree between the hobbyist and professional. Unfortunately a lot of people who do it as a hobby think that everyone else should do it the professional way regardless of skill or requirements. The beauty of doing it as a hobby is that there are no strict rights or wrongs.
Where can I get those "screws in a bag"?
😂 I got mine from Trend but the great thing is that you can even make your own at home. All you need is screws and a bag 😂
do you have a link to the screw guide?
Yes fair point. I’ll add it to the description and do a pinned comment in a sec. If you google Kreg Screw Selector then it should come up.
I assume the fancy tape at 4:12 was supplied by this video's sponsor...
😂😂 yeah something like that mate
Robertson is King
I agree Torx is better than Robertson, but I absolutely CANNOT stand Phillips; so, I'm not complaining.
Yeah they’re definitely better than Phillips and don’t even get me started on slotted screws! 😂
At first I rejected Robertson screws, just due to having only one sqare bit to screw them. But found out how advantageous they are. The heads are very robust and the screws don't fall off the bit while using them single handedly. For other screws you need strong magnetic bits at least.
@ephemer7942 the bit staying attached to the screw is definitely best on a Robertson but I find they cam out quite easily and need fresh bits more regularly than torx though.
@@lionandbearEhh slotted screws are fine if A) you don't need to tap the threads with the screw itself and B) you don't need clamping pressure, like if you only need to fasten something to something else like a motherboard on a computer case or a thermostat to drywall, Phillips on the other hand can suck a big old goat turd the heads basically worthless, they don't clamp very well, the heads round out 90% of the time, the ubiquitous nature of them in the US means there's a good chance you're going to come across one an subsequently have to replace it at some point.
Robertson ain't perfect either you get spin out on the screw head or the bit wears but what Robertson does great is that the shape allows for repeated engagement even with worn bits and worn screws, it does provide excellent clamping pressure to boot, the shop I work at has been using them for 30+ years without any failures or loose joints. That said I would prefer Torx to have the same pervasiveness as Philips, I've never worn a Torx bit out or cammed out a Torx screw, but at the same time I don't get a lot of opportunities to interact with them either, good luck finding them in the hardware stores, was at Lowe's looking for any wood screw that wasn't Philips the other day couldn't find any that weren't decking sized (2" plus) guess built to fail just makes too much money 😂
@paraxicgaming5743 great points! I agree with you about the torx. I’ve never had one cam out and it’s definitely a shame they aren’t used more regularly.
I still disagree on the slotted screws though as they just slide out so easily if you’re at a slight angle or anything so they always go in the bin for me wherever possible.
Pocketholes are great for assembling "decorative" stuff. But if you require actual structural strength, like for example a bed frame, you're much better off using proper joints with a good glue.
Don't waste your money on the 320. Just get the bigger one. Once you're done buying clamps for the 320, you're only about $20 shy of the 720, which is FAR superior. Just save your money for the 720.
The clamps are useful for other things though so depends on what you need. The 320 can do 2x4 wood but the 720 can’t. I use the 720 for 90% of my stuff and absolutely love it so can’t argue with your point but I do still use the 320 and the clamp for other stuff so it’s a good entry way into pocket holes.
@@lionandbear - Ya. I hear ya. Truth be told, there are situations when the 320 is necessary, but like you, I use the larger one 99% of the time. I use the one made by Armor Tool, but they both do the same thing. Oh, and great video, by the way. It's really great that you provided the cutaway views to help people understand. Forgive me for not commenting on the goodness of your video right away! I am looking forward to checking out your other videos! Thanks again!!
@soujrnr thanks, I appreciate it!
I got a 520 which is the little brother of the 720
@KvnWlsn I’ve seen it but never used it. How do you get on with it?
Just go buy a Castle TSM-12. Lower angle, better holding, 10 times faster, and no, I have nothing to do with Castle, but I do own a TSM-12 and a TSM-30.
I’ve seen the castle machines and they look amazing but aren’t readily available in the UK and even if they are, £1,800 for the TSM-12 vs £140 for the kreg 720 is a big difference. Especially for hobbyists.
Yeah, just drop $1,800 for the Castle. Sure, Thurston Howell. 🙄
Sorry, but it is test piece ( I before e except after c)
Did I put ‘ei’? 🤦♂️ my bad
Piece is not spelled piece...
You spelled it peice
Someone beat you to it lol. I like to think of my spelling and grammar as being half decent but piece is one I always mess up for some reason 🤦♂️
its not about you enjoying it, its about to get a permanent strong joint or not ...
Pocket holes with glue do create a sufficiently strong joint for a lot of projects. Some people get their enjoyment from being able to build an approachable entry level project whereas some people enjoy the craft of doing traditional joinery so I’d have to disagree to a point as a joint can be permanent and strong by using a variety of different methods. Enjoyment absolutely comes into it, especially for hobbyists.
Pocket giles are very week never dun them at all
Not true. I’ve used them to build tables and the stretchers on the side table I built can hold my entire body weight. Depends on the use for them as they won’t be as strong as mortice and tennon for example but a lot of joints don’t need that level of strength.
You left a lot of information of basic pocket hole joinery OUT of this video. You're a real jerk.
Thanks for your constructive feedback 🙄