I love this! BTW it's not so impossible. The restorers of the Second Bulgarian empire were actually of Vlach origin (Romanian). We have a lot of history in common. The languages influenced one another so much. Greetings from Bulgaria brother!
@@tatarkhan33 The Dinasty of Asen had Wallachian origins: ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinastia_As%C4%83ne%C8%99tilor Look at etnicity. Not to mention that the Empire's name Is Wallachian-Bulgarian Tsardom. Dont use sarcasm with fake stuff :)
Yeah, he could, but he wanted to sound Bulgarian, even if they got it after Romanian Leu, just like everything else: tsar, anthem, motto and first language. It's called Napoleon Syndrome...
@it'a me MMmario si chiar crezi ca bulgarii ar fii facut asa ceva, sa isi puna numele altei națiuni în numele lor? Bulgarii erau nomazi slavi, erau localizati undeva prin nordul Ucrainei și au emigrat în in tracia si dacia, si au ramas doar in tracia, asta e tot
@@reikers greșit: despre imperiul vlaho-bulgar până și papa de la Roma amintește. Chiar au vrut să îi ,,ispitească" pe conducătorii politici si religioși vlaho-bulgari cu alternativa romano-catolicismului în locul Bisericii Ortodoxe, măgulindui cu ,,originea latină" (secolele 12-14).
As a Romanian, I think this would have been somewhat preferable to actual reality. 😅 But I do have some pet peeves with this version of events: 1) A state which would have included Bulgaria would have at some point in the 20th century made a play for the territory of the current Republic of North Macedonia. It could have been a negotiated settlement with Yugoslavia, perhaps splitting the territory in two, but North Macedonia was Bulgaria's great white whale which caused them to enter the wars they did on the sides they entered - the Second Balkan War, the First World War, Second World War - so it's unlikely the Bulgarian part of the confederation / state wouldn't have pushed for it. The most likely course of events would have been that at the end of the Balkan War, because of its increased clout given by the larger size, the Kingdom of Bulgaria and Romania would have been able to negotiate a more favorable deal regarding Macedonia, which would have been an important red line for the state. As such, at least part of the territory of North Macedonia would have been part of the Kingdom, especially the part more heavily populated by Bulgarians and Vlahs. 2) Given the presented state of events, it is illogical why the Kingdom of Bulgaria and Romania would have entered WW2 on the side of Germany. The two constituent countries have entered for some reasons: - Romania entered because of the Second Vienna Award, where it lost both eastern Moldova (currently the Republic of Moldova and some small parts of Ukraine), as well as Northern Transylvania. The local politicians had a choice to make, between aligning with the Axis to recover eastern Moldova or with the Soviets with the aim of getting Northern Transylvania back. In the presented alternative history, Moldova isn't ceded - thus, it makes no sense why Romanians would have allied with the Axis in such conditions; - Bulgaria entered WW2 to recover what was lost in the Second Balkan War and WW1, plus North Macedonia. In the presented alternative history, the Second Balkan War didn't happen, and Bulgaria didn't lose those territories. The missing part of Northern Macedonia alone wouldn't have been enough for a casus belli, especially when weighted with the loss of Northern Transylvania by the state - a significantly wealthier province. In the presented alternative history, the Tsardom of Eastern Balkans would have either entered the war on the side of the Allies, or it would have otherwise remained neutral. Do keep in mind it was the main source of oil that facilitated the German offensives of WW2. Thus, if the Tsardom would have threatened to destroy the oil refineries and oil rigs around the Romanian city of Ploiesti in case of German armed intervention - situated several hundred kilometers away from the border - it is unlikely that Germany would have invaded. On the other hand, if the Tsardom would have joined the Soviet Union, Germany would have had no more reason to not invade, because the oil supplies would be lost to them regardless. Thus, the most likely situation is the Tsardom would have given preferential trading rights to Germany for oil while maintaining neutrality in WW2 - a situation Germany would have accepted because it would secure the southern flank against possible allied intervention, and accepted by the Soviet Union because the hypothetical Tsardom would have been a significantly stronger state due to its size than either Romania or Bulgaria were on their own at the time, plus it would not have wanted another army of hundreds of thousands to join the Axis campaign. Given these premises, the fate of the Kingdom as a communist state in the post-war arrangement is in question. It is far more likely that it would have served as a neutral demarcation zone between the communist and capitalist powers. It would have had a fate more akin to that of Finland or Austria, but less wealthy, because of the less advantageous position. It would also have had to invest far more in military development than Austria, something more akin to Finland, because it would be surrounded by countries with certain revanchist wishes against it, especially Hungary, Greece and Yugoslavia/Serbia, but would also be neighboring the Soviet Union during the Cold War, so it would likely be a playing field of spies on both sides. As a consequence, the economic situation of the Eastern Balkan Tsardom in the 21st century would be more similar to that of Italy than of Austria. The population too would be significantly higher, because of it being a facile target for immigration from the USSR during the Cold War, being an Orthodox kingdom with similar culture. It would be expected for it to be situated somewhere in the 60 million range today, so very similar to that of Italy.
I really love the concept and the video was great! The flag at the end did look a little unusual in my opinion but besides that everything else looks awesome!
Few mistakes that i seen: in 1944 in romanian should write"Republica Populară a Bulgariei și României" And in 1990 in romanian it should be "Țaratul" not "Țaronul"
I'm genuinely surprised Bulgarians didn't declare independence once the USSR began marching towards their half of the state. It was, after all, the _Romanian_ king who'd bowed down to the Axis and invited disaster on Bulgaria as well as Romania by committing both to the catastrophic Eastern Front.
The city of Tomis is a good exemple:Constanța in romanian and Kiustengea in bulgarian The bulgarian one might be faulty,i don't know bulgarian and i used wikipedia for this.
@@alexandrub8786 Pretty much right yeah, but we pronounce it liek "Kyustendja". Also I never even heard of that name until recently, I always knew the city as Constantza
I'm confused. The Monarchy of OTL Bulgaria was not Bulgarian. But German. And if the Throne was given to Carol rather than Ferdinand. He would have remained a German Noble. And the throne would have passed to his son Ferdinand rather than Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, right?
Well, he has most likely watched some part and decided to add a comment instead of watching the video in full and writing one comment. It was his decision.
@@pomernguy1835 for some reason when youre commenting on my current video, i think yt keeps removing them because the word (mispelt on purpose) raiych is on it
@@Scenariania Well, when I wrote comments on another channel, he also deleted my comments even though there was no bad word in them and they also removed the comment from another mapper, because there was the word "izlam" or "Muzlimz" when the comment was not vulgar (I write some words differently on purpose). Yeh, that great TH-cam that cares about everyone ... (joke).
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Guys I am not Romanian, actually I am from Bulgaria, but I think that you are all correct in a sense. People south of the Carpatian mountains consider themselves from the Balkans north of it not so much....well diferent empires ruled over those teritories probably that is the reason...Idk you tell me :)
Bulgaria was off the map for 6 centuries and in all this time Wallachia/Romania was a good mother for Bulgarian refugees and fought on Grivitsa, Pleven and Smardan to free their land. Nowadays, Romania is by any means twice as big and is hard to believe she lost her leaders, language, culture, anthem, currency to Bulgarians. Romania, 21th century's tsardom??? Mat Mapper, you're laughing stock!
sorry,but Romania and Bulgaria whould never unite,Bulgarians batrayed us in both world wars and we are brothers?!? the only brothers that Romania has are Serbians,Russians and Czehs,we need The Little Entente Back
Romania betrayed bulgaria in the second balkan war stealing what's bulgarian, in the first world war we just got back what was ours , in the second world war we were Allie's. You are just like the serbs... betraying Bulgaria and making it look like we are the bad people.
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As a Romanian I would like to see an union between Romania and Bulgaria 🇷🇴❤🇧🇬
I prefer Moldova uniting and getting Bucovina, Hotin and Budjak back
Such union will be great 😃
I love my northern neighbour Romania from Bulgaria!🇧🇬❤️🇷🇴
I wish this happened. Do you? (I’m Romanian)
I love this! BTW it's not so impossible. The restorers of the Second Bulgarian empire were actually of Vlach origin (Romanian). We have a lot of history in common. The languages influenced one another so much.
Greetings from Bulgaria brother!
I greet the Slavic brothers from Poland!
Aha sure sure and Africans created The kingdom of the franks by the way
@@tatarkhan33 finally someone who actually knows history
@@tatarkhan33 The Dinasty of Asen had Wallachian origins: ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinastia_As%C4%83ne%C8%99tilor
Look at etnicity.
Not to mention that the Empire's name Is Wallachian-Bulgarian Tsardom.
Dont use sarcasm with fake stuff :)
The Second Bulgarian Empire in Romanian is actually named The Wallachian-Bulgarian Tsardom
This video is so great, showing that there can be unity between countries with high ambitions, here in the Balkans. Love it!
Nu e great deloc, dupa WWII Romania e bulgarizata total. Or fi ei mici dar au tupeu.
Bravo, I am speechless on such art and work.
At currency you could have put "lion(lev,leu)" considering it means the same thing and uses the official languages
Yeah, he could, but he wanted to sound Bulgarian, even if they got it after Romanian Leu, just like everything else: tsar, anthem, motto and first language. It's called Napoleon Syndrome...
@@jamboree5019 damn didn't know there was a romanian tsardom in the tenth century
@@jamboree5019 ah yes the first language of Bulgaria is taken from Romania, so is everything else
Perfect analogy, makes perfect sense
The first Bulgarian empire was actually mostly in modern day Romania
@it'a me MMmario nope, just Bulgaria or Khanate of the Bolgar
@it'a me MMmario esti roman?
@it'a me MMmario nu am vazut o carte care sa zică ceva despre un imperiu valaho-bulgar, erau doar bulgari
@it'a me MMmario si chiar crezi ca bulgarii ar fii facut asa ceva, sa isi puna numele altei națiuni în numele lor? Bulgarii erau nomazi slavi, erau localizati undeva prin nordul Ucrainei și au emigrat în in tracia si dacia, si au ramas doar in tracia, asta e tot
@@reikers greșit: despre imperiul vlaho-bulgar până și papa de la Roma amintește. Chiar au vrut să îi ,,ispitească" pe conducătorii politici si religioși vlaho-bulgari cu alternativa romano-catolicismului în locul Bisericii Ortodoxe, măgulindui cu ,,originea latină" (secolele 12-14).
Traiasca fratia Romania - Bulgaria 💗
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i think you ve did a very great job!!! i love it. very original!!
Wow, another great video! I loved it! Very creative!
Beautyful video! Congrats! 🇷🇴🇧🇬
Very epic brother!
Will you do a alternate history of North Germany I liked the idea of it!
I have upcoming plans for Spain and Finland, but then I can do an Alternative History of North Germany. I think it would be a very good video.
Epic alt history.
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@@tatarkhan33 oof i came in time lmao
@@Scenariania ok
I love this so much. I dream about uniting with our thracian brothers!
While you are at it why not make A russo Prussian Empire? And a franko Itallian Greek Empire too
So essentially Bulgaria is the whole country? (Well except Bucharest) this video was AWESOME WE NEED MORE!!!!!!
Romania and Bulgaria. Two countries that the political suffering brought each other together.
As a Romanian, I think this would have been somewhat preferable to actual reality. 😅 But I do have some pet peeves with this version of events:
1) A state which would have included Bulgaria would have at some point in the 20th century made a play for the territory of the current Republic of North Macedonia. It could have been a negotiated settlement with Yugoslavia, perhaps splitting the territory in two, but North Macedonia was Bulgaria's great white whale which caused them to enter the wars they did on the sides they entered - the Second Balkan War, the First World War, Second World War - so it's unlikely the Bulgarian part of the confederation / state wouldn't have pushed for it. The most likely course of events would have been that at the end of the Balkan War, because of its increased clout given by the larger size, the Kingdom of Bulgaria and Romania would have been able to negotiate a more favorable deal regarding Macedonia, which would have been an important red line for the state. As such, at least part of the territory of North Macedonia would have been part of the Kingdom, especially the part more heavily populated by Bulgarians and Vlahs.
2) Given the presented state of events, it is illogical why the Kingdom of Bulgaria and Romania would have entered WW2 on the side of Germany. The two constituent countries have entered for some reasons:
- Romania entered because of the Second Vienna Award, where it lost both eastern Moldova (currently the Republic of Moldova and some small parts of Ukraine), as well as Northern Transylvania. The local politicians had a choice to make, between aligning with the Axis to recover eastern Moldova or with the Soviets with the aim of getting Northern Transylvania back. In the presented alternative history, Moldova isn't ceded - thus, it makes no sense why Romanians would have allied with the Axis in such conditions;
- Bulgaria entered WW2 to recover what was lost in the Second Balkan War and WW1, plus North Macedonia. In the presented alternative history, the Second Balkan War didn't happen, and Bulgaria didn't lose those territories. The missing part of Northern Macedonia alone wouldn't have been enough for a casus belli, especially when weighted with the loss of Northern Transylvania by the state - a significantly wealthier province.
In the presented alternative history, the Tsardom of Eastern Balkans would have either entered the war on the side of the Allies, or it would have otherwise remained neutral. Do keep in mind it was the main source of oil that facilitated the German offensives of WW2. Thus, if the Tsardom would have threatened to destroy the oil refineries and oil rigs around the Romanian city of Ploiesti in case of German armed intervention - situated several hundred kilometers away from the border - it is unlikely that Germany would have invaded. On the other hand, if the Tsardom would have joined the Soviet Union, Germany would have had no more reason to not invade, because the oil supplies would be lost to them regardless. Thus, the most likely situation is the Tsardom would have given preferential trading rights to Germany for oil while maintaining neutrality in WW2 - a situation Germany would have accepted because it would secure the southern flank against possible allied intervention, and accepted by the Soviet Union because the hypothetical Tsardom would have been a significantly stronger state due to its size than either Romania or Bulgaria were on their own at the time, plus it would not have wanted another army of hundreds of thousands to join the Axis campaign.
Given these premises, the fate of the Kingdom as a communist state in the post-war arrangement is in question. It is far more likely that it would have served as a neutral demarcation zone between the communist and capitalist powers. It would have had a fate more akin to that of Finland or Austria, but less wealthy, because of the less advantageous position. It would also have had to invest far more in military development than Austria, something more akin to Finland, because it would be surrounded by countries with certain revanchist wishes against it, especially Hungary, Greece and Yugoslavia/Serbia, but would also be neighboring the Soviet Union during the Cold War, so it would likely be a playing field of spies on both sides. As a consequence, the economic situation of the Eastern Balkan Tsardom in the 21st century would be more similar to that of Italy than of Austria. The population too would be significantly higher, because of it being a facile target for immigration from the USSR during the Cold War, being an Orthodox kingdom with similar culture. It would be expected for it to be situated somewhere in the 60 million range today, so very similar to that of Italy.
the happy ending
I really love the concept and the video was great! The flag at the end did look a little unusual in my opinion but besides that everything else looks awesome!
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Bardzo dobra produkcja
România -Bulgaria , istorie comună !
Love to our brother who I'd love to Unite as a romanian🇹🇩 💙💛❤️💚🤍🇧🇬
I dont understand how bucherest is the capital when bucherest is 228km and sofia is 492km
Population and economy are double for Bucharest, plus it would have a much more central position in the new hypothetical country.
Few mistakes that i seen: in 1944 in romanian should write"Republica Populară a Bulgariei și României"
And in 1990 in romanian it should be "Țaratul" not "Țaronul"
Thanks! I will always learn something new!
I'm genuinely surprised Bulgarians didn't declare independence once the USSR began marching towards their half of the state. It was, after all, the _Romanian_ king who'd bowed down to the Axis and invited disaster on Bulgaria as well as Romania by committing both to the catastrophic Eastern Front.
@PdoPtr Romanians are latinized bulgarians
When i do the Bulgarian video modern bulgaria will hold most of romania and Macedonia badicly making Bulgaria a large as germany or france
Ohohoh good!
*Can Romania Take All Europe pls 🙃*
At 11:10
It would have been interesting if in you would have the other official name(both romanian and bulgarian)
The city of Tomis is a good exemple:Constanța in romanian and Kiustengea in bulgarian
The bulgarian one might be faulty,i don't know bulgarian and i used wikipedia for this.
@@alexandrub8786 Eh pretty much right
@@alexandrub8786 Pretty much right yeah, but we pronounce it liek "Kyustendja". Also I never even heard of that name until recently, I always knew the city as Constantza
this is great but where are
the romanians leaders?
They ruled the Romanian part of the country.
Ah yes the kingdom of Ruberia🇧🇬❤️🇷🇴
I'm confused. The Monarchy of OTL Bulgaria was not Bulgarian. But German. And if the Throne was given to Carol rather than Ferdinand. He would have remained a German Noble. And the throne would have passed to his son Ferdinand rather than Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, right?
beautiful video
Why didnt you put more romanian songs?
It switched based on the nationality/place of birth of whoever ruled the country
What about will be the next video? Sorry for bad english
My current plans include Spain, then Finland.
@@pomernguy1835 👍
Bro, the guy's coat of arms and a club with 3 ingrown crosses?
Legends has it a legendary knight called world scenarios will stop silistran guard from spamming comments but those legends are yet to be proven
LMFAO
the legends are true
@@Scenariania oh NOOO
Mila Rodino mighty anthem.
Круто
i am curios, what is the Eggplant on the Eastern Balkans Tsardom about?
It's Hercules's club, although nobody rly knows what it symbolises
Why does the Eastern Balkan Federation have a joint on it's flag?
Alternate history of the colonization of africa next
Uniunea Balkanilor ar fi minunat cred eu
Really interesting!
6:18
what kind of flag is this?
Here is a page where you can find a template for this flag --> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation
Super
Amazing video
eyyooo i knew you'd be here soon
@@Scenariania lmao
cool !
Silistrian Guard be spamming comments eh?
Well, he has most likely watched some part and decided to add a comment instead of watching the video in full and writing one comment. It was his decision.
@@pomernguy1835 on point yes i watched parts and then added come nts
@@pomernguy1835 for some reason when youre commenting on my current video, i think yt keeps removing them because the word (mispelt on purpose) raiych is on it
@@Scenariania Well, when I wrote comments on another channel, he also deleted my comments even though there was no bad word in them and they also removed the comment from another mapper, because there was the word "izlam" or "Muzlimz" when the comment was not vulgar (I write some words differently on purpose). Yeh, that great TH-cam that cares about everyone ... (joke).
@@pomernguy1835 I just wish TH-cam can go back to the way it was in 2005, you can comment anything.
I love this video...i want to be real!
Honestly I am jealous you get so nany views
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We want back Asen dinasty !!!
Nice
Well done
@it'a me MMmario thanks but it was an Alternative History
@it'a me MMmario lmao
I guess if serbia formed Yugoslavia then Bulgaria and Romania formed what ever this is suppose to be
Kingdom of carpatho balkania
Interesant, dar Ferdinand a murit în 1927.
Interesting but Ferdinand died în 1927.
I think you drunk to much rakjia
A bit too Bulgarian but yeah..
Its also an exporter of Wallachian(?!) oil !You are delusional mate!Tsardom of Bulgaria and Romania,wallachian oil ,wtf?!!?
Wtf have you created
This almost happened before, its not just something he made up out of nowhere
Witam
too bad it didn't happen
too good
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my dream
the unique region so-called "balkanic" from Romania is Dobrogea ( that one opening to the sea). but we romanians don t consider oursefls balkans.
Yes we do
Europé Southeast of Bavaria is Balkan.
yes we do
Guys I am not Romanian, actually I am from Bulgaria, but I think that you are all correct in a sense. People south of the Carpatian mountains consider themselves from the Balkans north of it not so much....well diferent empires ruled over those teritories probably that is the reason...Idk you tell me :)
Everything else fine but that flag
Romania isnt in the balkans
The smartest comment by far. Northern border of Balkan Peninsula is Danube River. The ones not agreeing are uneducated.
balkans is also a cultural term not just a geographic one. Go to school
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Romania isnt in the balkans lol.
Fsiled at european geography
also
Slanchev bryag is not s city dummy its a beach sunny beach a resort
Wtf is that flag
Dude are you ok
I Just dont like the flag, othereise excelent work!
Wtf
this looks so cursed
I like the video, but the flag (red,white and black) i find disgusting
Bulgaria was off the map for 6 centuries and in all this time Wallachia/Romania was a good mother for Bulgarian refugees and fought on Grivitsa, Pleven and Smardan to free their land. Nowadays, Romania is by any means twice as big and is hard to believe she lost her leaders, language, culture, anthem, currency to Bulgarians. Romania, 21th century's tsardom??? Mat Mapper, you're laughing stock!
Wtf is with this video!!?
sorry,but Romania and Bulgaria whould never unite,Bulgarians batrayed us in both world wars and we are brothers?!?
the only brothers that Romania has are Serbians,Russians and Czehs,we need The Little Entente Back
Romania betrayed bulgaria in the second balkan war stealing what's bulgarian, in the first world war we just got back what was ours , in the second world war we were Allie's. You are just like the serbs... betraying Bulgaria and making it look like we are the bad people.
@@atewebg nope,Dobruja was always romanian
@@casianthelord8918 wow. Man learn some history
@@atewebg you need to do that,dacians where the first in dobruja
@@casianthelord8918 the dacians and the Thracians were the first*