My thoughts on why Harley's psychoanalytic skills weren't really effective in this battle was because she didn't really know anything about Jinx (aside from the fact that she was crazy and likes blowing stuff up). Maybe if Harley had known more details about Jinx's past, she may have been able to get in her head a little more, but I don't know. I think Wiz and Boomstick somewhat touched on it also where mind games only work so much on someone whose mind is essentially so far gone. I would kinda put Jinx in a similar category to the joker where there is no reasoning with them as "some men [or women] just want to watch the world burn"
Well said. It wasn’t so much that it didn’t work. Just that the way they showcased her trying a mental trick was kinda lame. Plus a good psychologist can tell a lot about a person in a short amount of time. Still wouldn’t have been enough to beat Jinx, but just wanted something better to show Harleys brain at work and then in the end it just doesn’t work on Jinx like you said 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 a good psychologist can learn alot in a short amount of time you right......can they learn alot while also attempting a fight to the death? lol I don't think its as simple to pschoanalyze a persons mental state and fight to survive
Dude there's 4 rules in Death Battle look at the end of the video of the original video First one says They have no prior knowledge of each other which makes everything fair.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I personally don't buy that Harley wouldn't be able to manipulate Jinx. Jinx may be skeptical, but I'm pretty sure Harleen has manipulated the Hell outta Batman on more than one occasion. You don't get much more skeptical than Bats, lol. That said, Harley still loses hard even with her mind games working. Jinx is just significantly stronger with far better weapons than Harley. If Jinx can negate the joker venom, which while I dunno if her being more resistant to toxins necessarily would allow but the quicksilver sash probably would, then Harley's toast.
@@phoenixwright784 tbf, the times she's "manipulated" Bats were times that he willingly let himself into her traps to defeat her and Bats has manipulated her feelings more times then not in order to get the drop on her. In the case of Jinx, the games show that Jinx just can't be easily manipulated due to her being already so far gone that she can't really listen to reason. Harley just wouldn't have the chance to incorporate that strategy and if she did, I imagine it would just lead into a violent rage that Jinx has done multiple times, even in the show lmao
Two rules of Deathbattle: 1. They look for who is likely to win the most times out all potential matches, not just a couple of times thanks to one really good move or skill. Even if her psychological skills were as potent and Jinx were as gullible as you think she is, it's really one of the only advantages Harley has, while Jinx has SO much more on her side, including strength, durability, speed, versatility, battlefield control, status restoration & immunity, and weaponry. So, while Harley could win, say, 25% of the time, Jinx's much more numerous advantages lead her to be victorious the other 75%, which is why they declared her the winner. 2. The animation is (mostly) made for entertainment purposes. It's the reasearch at the end that determines the winner. There are things that are echoed from the research, but it's mostly for a cool battle. Everything that happens in the fight isn't exactly how it might go in a real fight, meaning Harley may or may not have used that specific mind tactic to try and trick Jinx. It's possible she wouldn't even have the chance to do it at all. Trying to pick the fight apart the fight for the answer is rather pointless. The whole quote was actually a reference to another Deathbattle you'll likely get to in the the future. They just used this specific line of dialogue for a callback and a funny moment. Trust me. I adore Harley, but she is clearly outclassed here.
The psychological tactics in the actual fight is for entertainment, They do not always portray their skills in the fight. It was actually a shoutout to the “joker vs sweetooth” death battle. As for why it did bot work on Jinx, Harly manipulates her opponents ignorance, greed, anger, etc… the issues with Jinx is the one thing Harley sucks against as a psychological fault… Chaos. Just like she caved into jokers crap, his tactics was Chaos and circumvented her knowledge on psychology. Because it is non sensical. That is the same with jinx, her default is chaos and then it gets boosted by the shimmer. So it is just jacked up chaos. You cannot psychoanalyze that.
Can totally see why it wouldn’t work. Just wish they didn’t showcase it at all instead of showcasing it as a way to do a callback. Felt like it lessened Harley’s skills a bit 🤗
Honestly I don't think Harley making jinx crack would have helped her at all. Because in the first place it will just made her more dangerous. She'll be more likely to just nuke the area more than anything. And I don't think Harley really had much that could have taken her down. But not only that Harley just didn't know anything about her and wouldn't have been able to properly use that psychoanalytical stuff
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 in the show when her and vi were fighting the firelights. The voices told her attacks were coming. She even heard them coming from afar. That's why her reflexes are so clean and she's able to react to almost everything. And that's before the shimmer
One thing *aside from knowledge* that prevents Harley from using her psychoanalysis is that Jinx, while unstable, tends to fight *better* the more unhinged and emotionally unstable she is. She just becomes more unhinged and emotionless at death. So on the contrary, even if Harley had the information to Jinx's past against her, in a genuine fight, it would only make her stronger.
So while I agree that Harley being intelligent to try & get Jinx in a false sense of security could work, like others said, she would need more knowledge of Jinx to let it play out potentially better, & when they say she's inherently mistrusting of others, I think that's what they are referring to. She wouldn't provide any information to be in such a position. Also Harley might be able to do such a thing, it doesn't always work. Remember, she tried curing the Joker (someone who is JUST as insane) & instead went from Harleen Quinzel to Harley Quinn, & Joker is almost never affected by Harleys own attempts to get his guard down, & Joker isn't the only to have overcome these tactics. Jinxs own mental state is kind of similar in that regard (At least League Jinx where she's experienced where Arcane Jinx is like the prologue to her current form). I bet if they explained it better like that, it would be more accepting of Harleys loss.
It makes more sense now that the line she used was a callback. And we get why Jinx would win. Just felt like they didn’t showcase Harley enough for her mental prowess. Like if she had tried a very clever mental tactic from being able to pick up on enough from their encounter (a great psychologist can do this) and it looked like it was going to work but in the end Jinx was just too crazy. That would’ve been more fun to see. Like it would’ve felt like Harley gave it her best shot but then just couldn’t do it. This one felt like they just wanted to throw in a callback and claimed that was Harley using her psychoanalysis 🤗
One important detail: As much as I love Harley I'm satisfied with the results. When two people are fighting, it's important to know that you have Fighter A & Fighter B. If Fighter A wins, then that's the way it goes. In the end every fighter loses a fight, whether your too old, got sick, it just wasn't your day or whatever it is, it happens. In the end all you can do is try to stay on top for a while and be the best.
I am so excited to see you guys continue with this series. It's silly fun, and strangely such a great source for learning about all these diverse worlds and characters. I definitely have my favorites (I think Weiss vs Mitsuru is amazingly animated and choreographed for one), but all of them are great in their own way. Thanks again, and keep being awesome.
This is true. It was more that one person can manipulate emotions and the other isn’t in control of their emotions. Which I guess if you aren’t in control of your emotions at all then it’s tough to be manipulated 🤗
One comment from the Rooster Teeth website actually got me to smile. This battle is the first time that a DC character has lost to someone who isn't from Marvel.
Chemtech is a big thing in LoL, you've already seen the beginning of it in Arcane (Sevika's arm, the dudes that Jayce and Vi fought in the Shimmer Factory). Where as Piltover has Hextech, Zaun has Chemtech, and very few characters realize that both are needed for true Progress
Ahh, don't you just love watching people blow up? It's always such a blast! If there's one thing I love about Death Battle, it's how well they portray the characters.
As far as death battle one thing you need to know and you probably noticed so far is they use composite characters meaning they put all there feats from across mediums into one so that’s why Jinx they use feats from games books anime you name it and put it as one
Yeah I think we were confused on using all material unless it contradicts original source material. Which I guess Arcane doesn’t contradict the original source material 😊🙂
And for the people who say if only harley new more about Jinx and how to trick her won't work look at the end of the video they have 4 rules for death battle and rule #1 is that "Combatants have no prior knowledge of each other unless specified"
Tbh, Ingames item aside, Jinx was gonna win this one either way as Harley in this form isn’t strong enough to take on Jinx not to mention her toxins just triggers her insanity which even when unstable she can fully function well enough to defend herself and get what she wants done, her shimmer infusion makes her very strong too…also if you go with the argument they didn’t used peak Harley which is apocalypse Harley, where she is able to take on darkseid then they would have to use peak power jinx too which is her star guardian or odyssey variants which can legit erase existence, manipulate time, void, and much more, can space travel, and a load more…so as I said, either way you look at it, Jinx was the victorious side all along but props for Harley to been able to hold her off that long
Couple things I want to say... First... they got the ages of both characters wrong. Harley was around 27 when she met joker... she's probably around 33ish now. With Jinx... It complicated... Jinx right now is around 27ish... but if they are only using Arcane she could be around 18-19. All we know is that she's not much younger than Vi... it's like 2-3 years. Arcane is in the past... it's what happened... not where they are at now. Even then... it hasn't been announced canon yet. Here's another factor that people who watch arcane don't consider. Is Jinx psychologically damaged in the game like in the show? She's not. She's crazy but she's not losing her mind over every little thing. Considering that Jinx is actually really smart too... she would most likely realize what harley is trying to do. What I don't personally like is them using items in the game in this calculation though... because she could just get the blade of the ruined king, tri-force, infinity edge and end this. The stuff she's made is fair but the game items... bit of a reach. I still do think Jinx is pretty far above Harley when it comes to combat in general though.
Yeah for this one, I don’t think they got it wrong in the winner, but more so in the presentation of it all. Have had others call into question their use of in game items that are not unique to Jinx. But the animation for the fight was top tier 🤩😀
The whole thing about “getting in close for the final kill” is that it’s a reference to something that happened in Joker vs Sweet Tooth (which I highly recommend btw). So I can see why you weren’t all that impressed by it, but it’s there for a reason.
Makes more sense now. 😊 Just wish they would’ve used a better line or tactic (even if it didn’t work) 🤗 But it’s all good . Fight and animation was amazing 🤩🤩🤩
While you are right about Harley's brain being an incredible resource, you have to consider that to play effective mind games with someone you have to actually know them; Harl did this, of course, with people like Batman, Killer Croc, Joker, Ivy... but she have known all af them for years and, in this scenario this simply could not be applied. Also, as someone who played LoL for a while and love the lore, I can tell you, Jinx reacts with violence, ALWAYS. However, when I first saw this video I thought it could end in a draw and the beginning of a friendship because: -these two are basically twins from different mothers -Harley is, at the end of the day, a big softie and would have tried to befriend Jinx. With that being said I highly recommend you check the Harley Quinn animated series, it's great!
That's fine but Jinx having qss is a ass pull. The game isn't canon, nor is Arcane. Yet they pulled from old resources including comparing Lux ult to Jinx ult. Then taking that non canon material and mixing it with a 12 year old video of Lux before the retcon and before she had her identity established. They didn't even take any of the many Lux ults that's more modern. They took the best of all material and put it on Jinx.
@@brotquel1592 No they didn't, at least some of it was canon. First off they only took the very best of Jinx. Best of Harley would include Injustice where she beat the snot out of people that would murder Jinx. Then they equate Vi still loving Jinx as if both Vi and Braum would use mountain level hits on her or intend to kill Jinx. Saying she's mountain level tankiness because some people who can destroy mountains in many many hits is the same situation. It's just lazy all over. And I like Jinx much more but if they're going off the game we know she's far from a tank. She needs to kite. Look same game and logic. Let's look at infinity edge. We'll take all of the best values and pretend that's the same item. 120 AD, 30% crit, double crit chance passive, 15% true dmg, and 250% crit dmg. Call me crazy but that item isn't close to any item in the game. Even the best version of infinity edge loses to the item above. That's just lazy logic. Pick the best version of Jinx and the best of Harley and it's clear who wins.
@@peternash7104 Harley getting bleached is only post-52, Harley being thrown from a skyscraper is from the animates series, Harley getthing rocket-thrown in Gotham-Central Park, nursed back to health and buffed by Ivy is pre-52... both Jinx and Harl are a mish-mash of different continuity and, if you wanna take Injustice then I'll raise with Jinx surviving being hit by AURELION SOL! You know, the dragon that makes AND DESTROY planets..., you think he's going easy on the rift? Ok! Here's a list of champion that do not one-shot Jinx but do not hold back on the Rift and hit WAY HARDER than Harley: -Darius -Sion -Mordekaiser -Aatrox -Garen -Galio -Warwick (although, going by his dialogues he may be holding back because of his painful faded memories) -Shivana -Renekton -Nautilus ... we can go on! As I said, if you really wanna take Injustice onto the battlefield then you seal Jinx tanking everything Harley may throw at her only to then be slaughtering her all the worse. Yes, Jinx is a glass cannon... in a world where you fight living montains and interdimentional xenomorphs every thursday! To draw a comparison: one would think Hulk would be able to tear apart anything he finds in front of him HOWEVER on Sakaar he faced foes able to stall and even defeat him in hand-to-hand combat... in many aspects Jinx lives in a much dangerous world than Harley, especially if you think that she lives in the relatively more "human" part of the DC earth (Gotham) and the second strongest metahuman of the city is her girlfriend, hence not a threat and often an ally (I think that the most powerful metahuman of Gotham is Dr Phosphorus... he's an idiot, but he's still a man made of white phosphorus). Jinx is basically facing on her own Zaun's and Noxian's dangers on a daily basis, along with the more "zealous" Piltover defenders (Camille, to say one). I'm not saying that this fight is a "100% Jinx wins", it's a close call, but Jinx still has a bit of advantage... I'll say a 60/40 or a 55/45.
@@brotquel1592 you don't need to raise me anything...99% of the data in Jinx is not canon. Yes both use different sources but you aren't disproving my point. There's more canon stuff from Harley then from Jinx. Then the stuff from Jinx is hand picked to be her best feats when DB specifically says they pick canon material, again said it before, that's lazy. Yes they didn't take game feats and only items because game feats is balanced. As if anyone believes half these Champs could fight each other at all. That's game balance otherwise no one will pick most Champs and kindred is perm picked or banned. But to suggest not only QSS was ever on Jinx arsenal and again as if Braum or Vi in or out of canon would ever hit Jinx full force and she shrug it off is a joke.
To answer your question about the League in League of Legends the idea is the characters from runeterra are being summoned essentially out of time and space to compete in the league which according to the original lore was supposed to be an alternative to massive scale war in the world of runeterra. The champions summoned for this would be dropped back into their world/time none the wiser anything had happened after the match had concluded. As to your comment about Arcane it is the actual main cannon of runeterra the league is more of the side cannon thing
Harley is Joker's Partner. Subpar character at best. Jinx is FEMALE JOKER ON A FANTASY UNIVERSE. One of the main villains of the City of Progress. Her weapons are magic fueled what did you expect?
It was the general consensus that jinx would win this mainly due to the gap in firepower albeit it is closer than this episode gives it credit for. Most people think Joker Venom would work on Jinx and that Harley with a combination of her intellect and the win condition of joker venom keeps it close, as for the ending that is a reference to Joker VS Sweet Tooth where Joker attempts the same psychological manipulation with a similar speech
Don't cut out most of the video. It's best that u watch the entire Death Battle, Wiz and Broomstick r funny when shown in camera cause they explain in detail more and give visual reference and they r funny plus it tells a little bit of their background. Not to mention the end of the video Broomstick Pun, whose next to fight.
We do watch the entire Death Battle. RoosterTeeth is much more protective of their copyright so we had to cut some of the video, although this one ended up getting a claim anyways so we are thinking they don’t want smaller reaction channels watching their current season 🤔 Which is fine because we have plenty to catch up to 🥳🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 well hopefully it clears up cause I seen alot of people react to Death Battle and watch the entire episode with no copyright issue. Hopefully u can watch the entire thing for all death battle
It is hard to show a persons intelligence in a death battle unless it’s something they can do immediately for example Iron Man can hack of another person suit or tech in the middle of a fight, but someone like Batman needs more time to prep and plan based off the information they have
Funny thing, if you ever watch the Death Battle of "Joker Vs Sweettooth", you might recognize something done in this fight that's a callback to that older fight.
Granny Goodness is one of Darkseid's chief lieutenants. She trains the army of Apokalips, specifically the Female Furies who are New Gods that are loyal to Darkseid. Darkseid himself was in probably the most requested Death Battle of all time second only to Superman vs Goku, against Thanos, which is one of their top 2 or 3 episodes, probably.
I don't know if you guys have seen Invincible and The Boys or are planning to, but a Death Battle between Omni-Man and Homelander just came out, and it's probably one of the few where everyone agrees with the result and is absolutely satisfied with the animation.
i feel like if any of them were going to end in a draw this one should of, Harley and Jynx are more likely to become friends during the fight that kill one another imho.
Well, this really came down to, who can win in a fight, Dr. Frasier Crane or Sheldon Cooper and the winner was Sheldon Cooper, this was, therapists versus scientists and science won..
I’d say the next death battle with what u’re watching might be Dante vs Bayonetta or Ragna vs Sol Badguy. Only reason to not go for DvB is u might want to finish the story vids first but I will say at the point DB did the clash DMC5 didn’t exist yet
13:25 Arcane is actually cannon. It’s because jinx and vi had next to no backstory before arcane that they were able to create their backstory with Arcane. What they were trying to say in death battle is that Jinx has many different non cannon skins and stories as if she was in different universes which they wouldn’t consider like if jinx was a magical girl.
I guess we’ve just heard different things as to whether Arcane is canon or not 🤗 someone else also said that Arcane is the real canon and the game is the off shoot 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 it doesn't help that riot has said conflicting things. league tends to have a loose canon too, so we probably won't figure out for a while how canon Arcane is.
Harley´s psycho tactics may even have worked against here in this battle when u think about it. psycho tactics require atleast some knowledge about the subject to be effective, u need to know what buttons to push to get a caracter off there game so to speak. But not so far that they lose all sense of reality and self preservation. Becouse of how these fights happening at random Harley dosent know where in Jinx´s mind to attack. Also when u have a so unstable mind as Jinx already have is psycho tactics even a viable option when u could so easily push your subject to far and all hell could break lose if u do. They did a good job showing Jinx getting thrown of her game for a short moment. But just for a short moment and after that she went over the edge so to speak and mind games wasent gonna work anymore.
All valid points. And it’s not so much that the tactic didn’t work. It’s just that they used Harleys talents to do a callback instead of having her use a clever tactic and still not working on Jinx 🤗
They took away each characters final quotes for time constraints, i think. By the way, do you know about BDX? If not, i highly recommend checking it out, maybe start off with the Gogeta vs Vegito DBX?
dont worry....just 1 of those days. I mean there are plenty of matches I wanted others to win but it happens the other way around.....just got to accept it I suppose. but got to love that Fish Bazooka moment....(LOOK OUT...SHES RIGHT BEHIND YOU).....talk about losing the element of surprise
Yeah this is one that I took a LITTLE issue with, though it wasn't necessarily that I strongly disagreed with the outcome. I still maintain that Jinx shouldn't have had some of those "special powers" they gave her because they weren't things she canonically has. Stuff like the Quicksilver Sash and the Phantom Dancer are generic items that can be bought from the in-game shop during a League of Legends game, they're not "Jinx" items so much as items that are RECOMMENDED for Jinx players to use when playing her. ANY character in the game that's designed to do damage with their basic attacks can get their hands on those items just like any random soldier on a battlefield can pick up a random axe on the ground. So that chapped my cheeks a little. And her little teleporty iPad was literally just in ONE promotional cinematic for a new version of the game: Wild Rift. It's used as a plot device to have a fun little movie about her gathering up a team of characters to join her side and take part in an in-game match, most of these people living so far away from each other across the world that a little deus ex machina to get them all in one place was needed. Doesn't mean she canonically carries an Instant Teleport Gadget around (like, say...Deadpool canonically does). Death Battle read way too much into promotional material and game mechanics that are decidedly NOT character-specific or related to who they are as people. Not saying Jinx couldn't win, they had a few points about her toxin resistance due to growing up in Zaun as well as her Shimmer infusion...and she IS very much the "shoot first, ask questions never" sort. Harley WOULD need a bit of a better understanding of her to properly psycho-analyze and manipulate her, and by Death Battle rules they throw these characters together without any prior knowledge/prep time (or else Batman just wins pretty much everything lol). Jinx is also far less reserved about raw chaos, mayhem, and murder than Harley has grown to be. In situations where Harley may hesitate, Jinx won't. So I see a lot of things favoring Jinx in this matchup, to say nothing of the fancy math they use for raw stats. So at the end of the day...I don't refute the outcome, but I do kinda call shenanigans. Death Battle was a tad bit overly generous with their interpretation of her intrinsic kit and abilities, IMO. It was still fun to watch, though. :)
sorry your Harley didnt win....I would have wanted her to win too but I suppose resistance, flexible items and weaponary & non trusting craziness wins this 1
That was a good reaction I know you cut out some parts due to rooster teeth being claiming the right. Now please react to Thanos vs Darkseid Deathbattle
Glad you understood why we had to cut parts. Actually still got a copyright claim so we are assuming they don’t want smaller reaction channels reacting to their current season. Which makes sense. And we have plenty to check out 🙂
It`s true that Powder/Jinx is unstable but she acts crazier and stupider than she actually is so her enemies will underestimate her as she takes sadistic glee in drawing out the panic!
Arcane as far as ik is cannon. Riot Games has never said either way I'd it's cannon or not, but Vii and Jinx have very little backstory in LoL so most fans consider it cannon regardless, despite some differences. And also Shimmer does exist in the games it's just not explored all that much and does by a different name I do believe I love both Jinx and Harley but I certainly think Jinx has a bit more of an advantage in this fight that she'd end up winning regardless. Regardless of Harley's mind games, it's almost impossible for her to use it effectively in this battle because she know almost nothing about Jinx to actually be able to effectively manipulate her
Once you guys catch up with RWBY, please watch all the Deathbattles with RWBY characters. Also all of the Deadpool ones and all of the My Little Pony ones, one of those actually crosses over. Deadpool fights Pinkypie. One of my all time favorite Deathbattles is the Black Widow/ Widowmaker fight.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 So the Yang/ Tifa fight through Volume 2 is good. The Blake fight Volume 8. The Weis fight volume 6 or 7. The one featuring RWBY isn’t a full Deathbattle so that one you can do whenever.
This death battle was the most insane one that brings a new feature of animation to be amazing 😁 there are more on the way with bring satisfaction to shock features in this new season. Soon there is going to be Homelander “The boys” v Omi Man “Invincible” death battle soon. I feel like it might be a blood bath episode to react to.
Summoner's Rift isn't canon ... it's where you put humans up against literal gods and have it balanced enough for a popular ADC like Jinx to regularly pentakill entire enemy teams. Using Summoner's Rift would be similar to using Kryptonian pills from Injustice, 'cos that's the only way Harley survives a punch from a Superman who isn't holding back.
About psychology... I would say that Harley actually does not have such an advantage... Sure Jinx is damaged and Harley could certainly dig in and affect her but I doubt it would go the way she would hope... In Arcane Episode 9 The Monster You Created (Obvious spoilers): Jinx has Invited Vi, Silco, and Caitlyn to dinner (AKA she kidnapped and bound all of them) where they try to figure out where she is going to go and who she is going to be (Powder or Jinx)... Things go wrong as opinions are shared Jinx's insecurities start to flare up Caitlyn gets free grabs a gun and get knocked out... Things escalate as Silco tells Jinx to "finish it" and Vi starts yelling about remembering the family Powder accidentally Killed... Jinx's Trauma flares massively... She starts seeing the people like Vi tells her to except they are either yelling at her in fury and rage or looking at her disapprovingly, and she breaks down... Silco is seeing that Vi is unknowingly hurting his daughter and tries to tell her to shut up and stop but the yelling continues and Jinx is just getting worse and worse... Silco manages to grab a gun and goes to shoot Vi... Jinx reacts and Silco eats a chestful of bullets... as he is dying he confirm to Jinx that he loves her and would not have abandoned her and that even in his death he still thinks she is perfect... Jinx chooses who she is going to be from then on she takes the weapon she designed and attacks the Piltover council... Why is that scene important to the conversation of psychological warfare working on Jinx? because while both Vi and Silco truly loved her, they were trying to manipulate her love for them to make her choose their side... and in the both affected her but neither got what they wanted either... Silco dies but so does Powder with him... I would not see it as a surprise at all for Harley to try and play psychological tricks on Jinx only to end up making things worse for herself...
the reason why Harley lost was because of jinx doesn't trust peolple right away. if she already knew Harley jinx wouldn't hurt her because she trust her.
i honestly didn't realise that Harley was as Badass as sh is, i didn't know she turned into a hero eventually, ive alsways seen her as a villain (well other than in the Injustice universe) so this shone some light on her character, she was my pick from the start because i just dont know anything about Legue of Legends, i hope she wins now becuae she is even more of a Badass than i though. Im writing this at the half way point b4 the battle if u didn't already notice.
If Harley was in a death battle , there is no way jinx beat her Even batman said she could beat him if she fought seriously How a girl trained in combat, who has above normal strength and resistance ( how the f*ck. Jinx could stop her bat with one hand when Harley is stronger than an average humain ? ) , above average IQ , who managed to capture and kill robin alone, could lose to a simple schizophrenic girl.... I really like jinx ... But she far weaker than Harley
I would have to disagree with both of you guys because even if Harley can mentally get into jinx's head it is not granted a win overall, they look at it on who would win the most rather then just one way, jinx is mentally unstable not dumb
I get that you disagree, however this went exactly how I expected. In fact I think Harley came closer than I expected. Jinx is a genius yes Harley is smart but Jinx her information processing is rivled only by Ekko. She's dostrusting of everyone. Before the toxins she's playing around and after she's serious and the moment she turned serieus Harley was done for. Love the vids!!
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My thoughts on why Harley's psychoanalytic skills weren't really effective in this battle was because she didn't really know anything about Jinx (aside from the fact that she was crazy and likes blowing stuff up). Maybe if Harley had known more details about Jinx's past, she may have been able to get in her head a little more, but I don't know.
I think Wiz and Boomstick somewhat touched on it also where mind games only work so much on someone whose mind is essentially so far gone. I would kinda put Jinx in a similar category to the joker where there is no reasoning with them as "some men [or women] just want to watch the world burn"
Well said. It wasn’t so much that it didn’t work. Just that the way they showcased her trying a mental trick was kinda lame. Plus a good psychologist can tell a lot about a person in a short amount of time. Still wouldn’t have been enough to beat Jinx, but just wanted something better to show Harleys brain at work and then in the end it just doesn’t work on Jinx like you said 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 a good psychologist can learn alot in a short amount of time you right......can they learn alot while also attempting a fight to the death? lol I don't think its as simple to pschoanalyze a persons mental state and fight to survive
Dude there's 4 rules in Death Battle look at the end of the video of the original video First one says They have no prior knowledge of each other which makes everything fair.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I personally don't buy that Harley wouldn't be able to manipulate Jinx. Jinx may be skeptical, but I'm pretty sure Harleen has manipulated the Hell outta Batman on more than one occasion. You don't get much more skeptical than Bats, lol.
That said, Harley still loses hard even with her mind games working. Jinx is just significantly stronger with far better weapons than Harley. If Jinx can negate the joker venom, which while I dunno if her being more resistant to toxins necessarily would allow but the quicksilver sash probably would, then Harley's toast.
@@phoenixwright784 tbf, the times she's "manipulated" Bats were times that he willingly let himself into her traps to defeat her and Bats has manipulated her feelings more times then not in order to get the drop on her. In the case of Jinx, the games show that Jinx just can't be easily manipulated due to her being already so far gone that she can't really listen to reason. Harley just wouldn't have the chance to incorporate that strategy and if she did, I imagine it would just lead into a violent rage that Jinx has done multiple times, even in the show lmao
Both of them voting for Harley makes it even more satisfying for me when I voted Jinx :D
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Two rules of Deathbattle:
1. They look for who is likely to win the most times out all potential matches, not just a couple of times thanks to one really good move or skill. Even if her psychological skills were as potent and Jinx were as gullible as you think she is, it's really one of the only advantages Harley has, while Jinx has SO much more on her side, including strength, durability, speed, versatility, battlefield control, status restoration & immunity, and weaponry. So, while Harley could win, say, 25% of the time, Jinx's much more numerous advantages lead her to be victorious the other 75%, which is why they declared her the winner.
2. The animation is (mostly) made for entertainment purposes. It's the reasearch at the end that determines the winner. There are things that are echoed from the research, but it's mostly for a cool battle. Everything that happens in the fight isn't exactly how it might go in a real fight, meaning Harley may or may not have used that specific mind tactic to try and trick Jinx. It's possible she wouldn't even have the chance to do it at all. Trying to pick the fight apart the fight for the answer is rather pointless. The whole quote was actually a reference to another Deathbattle you'll likely get to in the the future. They just used this specific line of dialogue for a callback and a funny moment.
Trust me. I adore Harley, but she is clearly outclassed here.
That’s a good way to think about it. Who would win the majority of time. Something to keep in mind as we move forward with it 🙂🥳🥳
as far as I know, that’s how they always do it…looking at who would most likely win more often
The psychological tactics in the actual fight is for entertainment, They do not always portray their skills in the fight. It was actually a shoutout to the “joker vs sweetooth” death battle.
As for why it did bot work on Jinx, Harly manipulates her opponents ignorance, greed, anger, etc… the issues with Jinx is the one thing Harley sucks against as a psychological fault… Chaos. Just like she caved into jokers crap, his tactics was Chaos and circumvented her knowledge on psychology. Because it is non sensical. That is the same with jinx, her default is chaos and then it gets boosted by the shimmer. So it is just jacked up chaos. You cannot psychoanalyze that.
Can totally see why it wouldn’t work. Just wish they didn’t showcase it at all instead of showcasing it as a way to do a callback. Felt like it lessened Harley’s skills a bit 🤗
Honestly I don't think Harley making jinx crack would have helped her at all. Because in the first place it will just made her more dangerous. She'll be more likely to just nuke the area more than anything. And I don't think Harley really had much that could have taken her down.
But not only that Harley just didn't know anything about her and wouldn't have been able to properly use that psychoanalytical stuff
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Jynx is basically a tank. She also has pre cog. There's probably no way that Harley could have won this
Hmm. Didn’t realize she had the pre cog. Is that in game? 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 in the show when her and vi were fighting the firelights. The voices told her attacks were coming. She even heard them coming from afar. That's why her reflexes are so clean and she's able to react to almost everything. And that's before the shimmer
One thing *aside from knowledge* that prevents Harley from using her psychoanalysis is that Jinx, while unstable, tends to fight *better* the more unhinged and emotionally unstable she is. She just becomes more unhinged and emotionless at death. So on the contrary, even if Harley had the information to Jinx's past against her, in a genuine fight, it would only make her stronger.
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I mean Harley did fall under the sway of Joker. Is Harley therapy skills that impressive in light of that?
We don’t choose who we love 🤗
So while I agree that Harley being intelligent to try & get Jinx in a false sense of security could work, like others said, she would need more knowledge of Jinx to let it play out potentially better, & when they say she's inherently mistrusting of others, I think that's what they are referring to. She wouldn't provide any information to be in such a position. Also Harley might be able to do such a thing, it doesn't always work. Remember, she tried curing the Joker (someone who is JUST as insane) & instead went from Harleen Quinzel to Harley Quinn, & Joker is almost never affected by Harleys own attempts to get his guard down, & Joker isn't the only to have overcome these tactics. Jinxs own mental state is kind of similar in that regard (At least League Jinx where she's experienced where Arcane Jinx is like the prologue to her current form). I bet if they explained it better like that, it would be more accepting of Harleys loss.
It makes more sense now that the line she used was a callback. And we get why Jinx would win. Just felt like they didn’t showcase Harley enough for her mental prowess. Like if she had tried a very clever mental tactic from being able to pick up on enough from their encounter (a great psychologist can do this) and it looked like it was going to work but in the end Jinx was just too crazy. That would’ve been more fun to see. Like it would’ve felt like Harley gave it her best shot but then just couldn’t do it. This one felt like they just wanted to throw in a callback and claimed that was Harley using her psychoanalysis 🤗
Rule #1 in Death Battle is that "Combatants have no prior knowledge of each other unless specified"
"Kamehameha" is Goku's signature move in DBZ (and is also used by a few other characters too)
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As superman process to walk threw it
Master Roshi(am I a joke to you??
One important detail: As much as I love Harley I'm satisfied with the results.
When two people are fighting, it's important to know that you have Fighter A & Fighter B. If Fighter A wins, then that's the way it goes.
In the end every fighter loses a fight, whether your too old, got sick, it just wasn't your day or whatever it is, it happens.
In the end all you can do is try to stay on top for a while and be the best.
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I am so excited to see you guys continue with this series. It's silly fun, and strangely such a great source for learning about all these diverse worlds and characters.
I definitely have my favorites (I think Weiss vs Mitsuru is amazingly animated and choreographed for one), but all of them are great in their own way.
Thanks again, and keep being awesome.
We do enjoy leaning about new characters and even stuff we didn’t know about characters we love like Harley 😀
Being emotionally unstable doesn't mean you lose fights. :p
This is true. It was more that one person can manipulate emotions and the other isn’t in control of their emotions. Which I guess if you aren’t in control of your emotions at all then it’s tough to be manipulated 🤗
One comment from the Rooster Teeth website actually got me to smile.
This battle is the first time that a DC character has lost to someone who isn't from Marvel.
“Savour my emotions” at the end was a reference to Joker vs Sweet tooth 😉
Ah okay. Looking forward to that battle 🙂
Chemtech is a big thing in LoL, you've already seen the beginning of it in Arcane (Sevika's arm, the dudes that Jayce and Vi fought in the Shimmer Factory).
Where as Piltover has Hextech, Zaun has Chemtech, and very few characters realize that both are needed for true Progress
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Ahh, don't you just love watching people blow up? It's always such a blast!
If there's one thing I love about Death Battle, it's how well they portray the characters.
As far as death battle one thing you need to know and you probably noticed so far is they use composite characters meaning they put all there feats from across mediums into one so that’s why Jinx they use feats from games books anime you name it and put it as one
Yeah I think we were confused on using all material unless it contradicts original source material. Which I guess Arcane doesn’t contradict the original source material 😊🙂
And for the people who say if only harley new more about Jinx and how to trick her won't work look at the end of the video they have 4 rules for death battle and rule #1 is that "Combatants have no prior knowledge of each other unless specified"
Tbh, Ingames item aside, Jinx was gonna win this one either way as Harley in this form isn’t strong enough to take on Jinx not to mention her toxins just triggers her insanity which even when unstable she can fully function well enough to defend herself and get what she wants done, her shimmer infusion makes her very strong too…also if you go with the argument they didn’t used peak Harley which is apocalypse Harley, where she is able to take on darkseid then they would have to use peak power jinx too which is her star guardian or odyssey variants which can legit erase existence, manipulate time, void, and much more, can space travel, and a load more…so as I said, either way you look at it, Jinx was the victorious side all along but props for Harley to been able to hold her off that long
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Couple things I want to say... First... they got the ages of both characters wrong. Harley was around 27 when she met joker... she's probably around 33ish now.
With Jinx... It complicated... Jinx right now is around 27ish... but if they are only using Arcane she could be around 18-19. All we know is that she's not much younger than Vi... it's like 2-3 years. Arcane is in the past... it's what happened... not where they are at now. Even then... it hasn't been announced canon yet.
Here's another factor that people who watch arcane don't consider. Is Jinx psychologically damaged in the game like in the show? She's not. She's crazy but she's not losing her mind over every little thing. Considering that Jinx is actually really smart too... she would most likely realize what harley is trying to do.
What I don't personally like is them using items in the game in this calculation though... because she could just get the blade of the ruined king, tri-force, infinity edge and end this. The stuff she's made is fair but the game items... bit of a reach.
I still do think Jinx is pretty far above Harley when it comes to combat in general though.
Yeah for this one, I don’t think they got it wrong in the winner, but more so in the presentation of it all. Have had others call into question their use of in game items that are not unique to Jinx. But the animation for the fight was top tier 🤩😀
Jinx is a genius.
That she is 🙂
The whole thing about “getting in close for the final kill” is that it’s a reference to something that happened in Joker vs Sweet Tooth (which I highly recommend btw). So I can see why you weren’t all that impressed by it, but it’s there for a reason.
Makes more sense now. 😊 Just wish they would’ve used a better line or tactic (even if it didn’t work) 🤗 But it’s all good . Fight and animation was amazing 🤩🤩🤩
While you are right about Harley's brain being an incredible resource, you have to consider that to play effective mind games with someone you have to actually know them; Harl did this, of course, with people like Batman, Killer Croc, Joker, Ivy... but she have known all af them for years and, in this scenario this simply could not be applied.
Also, as someone who played LoL for a while and love the lore, I can tell you, Jinx reacts with violence, ALWAYS.
However, when I first saw this video I thought it could end in a draw and the beginning of a friendship because:
-these two are basically twins from different mothers
-Harley is, at the end of the day, a big softie and would have tried to befriend Jinx.
With that being said I highly recommend you check the Harley Quinn animated series, it's great!
That's fine but Jinx having qss is a ass pull. The game isn't canon, nor is Arcane. Yet they pulled from old resources including comparing Lux ult to Jinx ult. Then taking that non canon material and mixing it with a 12 year old video of Lux before the retcon and before she had her identity established. They didn't even take any of the many Lux ults that's more modern. They took the best of all material and put it on Jinx.
@@peternash7104 Just like Harley, they took her abilities from every DC continuity/reboot.
@@brotquel1592 No they didn't, at least some of it was canon. First off they only took the very best of Jinx. Best of Harley would include Injustice where she beat the snot out of people that would murder Jinx. Then they equate Vi still loving Jinx as if both Vi and Braum would use mountain level hits on her or intend to kill Jinx. Saying she's mountain level tankiness because some people who can destroy mountains in many many hits is the same situation. It's just lazy all over. And I like Jinx much more but if they're going off the game we know she's far from a tank. She needs to kite.
Look same game and logic. Let's look at infinity edge. We'll take all of the best values and pretend that's the same item. 120 AD, 30% crit, double crit chance passive, 15% true dmg, and 250% crit dmg. Call me crazy but that item isn't close to any item in the game. Even the best version of infinity edge loses to the item above. That's just lazy logic. Pick the best version of Jinx and the best of Harley and it's clear who wins.
@@peternash7104 Harley getting bleached is only post-52, Harley being thrown from a skyscraper is from the animates series, Harley getthing rocket-thrown in Gotham-Central Park, nursed back to health and buffed by Ivy is pre-52... both Jinx and Harl are a mish-mash of different continuity and, if you wanna take Injustice then I'll raise with Jinx surviving being hit by AURELION SOL!
You know, the dragon that makes AND DESTROY planets..., you think he's going easy on the rift? Ok! Here's a list of champion that do not one-shot Jinx but do not hold back on the Rift and hit WAY HARDER than Harley:
-Darius
-Sion
-Mordekaiser
-Aatrox
-Garen
-Galio
-Warwick (although, going by his dialogues he may be holding back because of his painful faded memories)
-Shivana
-Renekton
-Nautilus
... we can go on! As I said, if you really wanna take Injustice onto the battlefield then you seal Jinx tanking everything Harley may throw at her only to then be slaughtering her all the worse.
Yes, Jinx is a glass cannon... in a world where you fight living montains and interdimentional xenomorphs every thursday!
To draw a comparison: one would think Hulk would be able to tear apart anything he finds in front of him HOWEVER on Sakaar he faced foes able to stall and even defeat him in hand-to-hand combat... in many aspects Jinx lives in a much dangerous world than Harley, especially if you think that she lives in the relatively more "human" part of the DC earth (Gotham) and the second strongest metahuman of the city is her girlfriend, hence not a threat and often an ally (I think that the most powerful metahuman of Gotham is Dr Phosphorus... he's an idiot, but he's still a man made of white phosphorus).
Jinx is basically facing on her own Zaun's and Noxian's dangers on a daily basis, along with the more "zealous" Piltover defenders (Camille, to say one).
I'm not saying that this fight is a "100% Jinx wins", it's a close call, but Jinx still has a bit of advantage... I'll say a 60/40 or a 55/45.
@@brotquel1592 you don't need to raise me anything...99% of the data in Jinx is not canon. Yes both use different sources but you aren't disproving my point. There's more canon stuff from Harley then from Jinx. Then the stuff from Jinx is hand picked to be her best feats when DB specifically says they pick canon material, again said it before, that's lazy. Yes they didn't take game feats and only items because game feats is balanced. As if anyone believes half these Champs could fight each other at all. That's game balance otherwise no one will pick most Champs and kindred is perm picked or banned. But to suggest not only QSS was ever on Jinx arsenal and again as if Braum or Vi in or out of canon would ever hit Jinx full force and she shrug it off is a joke.
To answer your question about the League in League of Legends the idea is the characters from runeterra are being summoned essentially out of time and space to compete in the league which according to the original lore was supposed to be an alternative to massive scale war in the world of runeterra. The champions summoned for this would be dropped back into their world/time none the wiser anything had happened after the match had concluded.
As to your comment about Arcane it is the actual main cannon of runeterra the league is more of the side cannon thing
Ah okay. It’s just usually they go off the main source material although not always. But it’s all good. It was a super entertaining Death Battle 🙂🤩
Harley is Joker's Partner. Subpar character at best.
Jinx is FEMALE JOKER ON A FANTASY UNIVERSE. One of the main villains of the City of Progress.
Her weapons are magic fueled what did you expect?
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Have you guys seen the Harley Quinn show on HBO? It’s seriously incredible and made me appreciate Harley even more as a character!
We haven’t yet but will need to check that out 🙂
It was the general consensus that jinx would win this mainly due to the gap in firepower albeit it is closer than this episode gives it credit for. Most people think Joker Venom would work on Jinx and that Harley with a combination of her intellect and the win condition of joker venom keeps it close, as for the ending that is a reference to Joker VS Sweet Tooth where Joker attempts the same psychological manipulation with a similar speech
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Don't cut out most of the video. It's best that u watch the entire Death Battle, Wiz and Broomstick r funny when shown in camera cause they explain in detail more and give visual reference and they r funny plus it tells a little bit of their background. Not to mention the end of the video Broomstick Pun, whose next to fight.
We do watch the entire Death Battle. RoosterTeeth is much more protective of their copyright so we had to cut some of the video, although this one ended up getting a claim anyways so we are thinking they don’t want smaller reaction channels watching their current season 🤔 Which is fine because we have plenty to catch up to 🥳🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 well hopefully it clears up cause I seen alot of people react to Death Battle and watch the entire episode with no copyright issue. Hopefully u can watch the entire thing for all death battle
I love them both if they do meet I feel like they might fight but after they might be friends and become crazy best friends and unstoppable
Haha, yeah it’s more fun to think of them as friends 🙂
It is hard to show a persons intelligence in a death battle unless it’s something they can do immediately for example Iron Man can hack of another person suit or tech in the middle of a fight, but someone like Batman needs more time to prep and plan based off the information they have
That’s fair 🙂
Funny thing, if you ever watch the Death Battle of "Joker Vs Sweettooth", you might recognize something done in this fight that's a callback to that older fight.
We will see them all eventually 🙂
Great video hope everyone enjoyed hope everyone is doing well and had a great day can’t wait to see the injustice video
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I recommend watching Joker vs Sweet Tooth next.
Awesome video! Would love to see your reactions to the death battle after this one which is Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna.
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Granny Goodness is one of Darkseid's chief lieutenants. She trains the army of Apokalips, specifically the Female Furies who are New Gods that are loyal to Darkseid. Darkseid himself was in probably the most requested Death Battle of all time second only to Superman vs Goku, against Thanos, which is one of their top 2 or 3 episodes, probably.
Thanks for letting us know about Granny Goodness 😀
Great video!
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Amazing reaction as always. A future Death Battle I would love to see you guys react to is Darth Vader vs Doctor Doom.
That one will be tough to pick 🤔😀
I don't know if you guys have seen Invincible and The Boys or are planning to, but a Death Battle between Omni-Man and Homelander just came out, and it's probably one of the few where everyone agrees with the result and is absolutely satisfied with the animation.
We’ve seen the Boys and plan to get to Invincible as well. Glad their newest battle is top tier 😀
"Yeah, but she's unstable."
So was Victor Frankenstein.
honestly this was my fav of season 9 so far. the others were great but this was amazing.
then omniman vs homelander stole the crown
Pretty good season so far from what we’ve been hearing 😇
Well damn..Harley :(
Congrats to Jinx TvT
That was so amazing hehe, Bethany and Ken :3
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"Dante VS Bayonetta" or "Wolverine VS Raiden"
Both ones we want to check out 😀
Her psychological trap at the end was how joker won his
i feel like if any of them were going to end in a draw this one should of, Harley and Jynx are more likely to become friends during the fight that kill one another imho.
You need to watch solid snake vs sam Fisher it's such a good one and in my opinion the best death battle they have made
And two characters we need to learn more about 🙂
Few words to say:
You both lose.....
And yet you also won
Because you lost together, quite poetic.
🥰☺️😊🤗 That’s a frat way to think about It
I feel like this fight was them becoming friends
Exactly. And Harley will regenerate or something and then they will become friends 😛☺️🤗
Speaking of league of legends, I wonder if they’ll react to the new cinematic about a new champion
We’ll be checking her out 😁
Can't Wait for you to Watch the omniman vs Homelander one.
it is actually one of the best ever made !
We keep hearing about it 😀 But we need to check out Invincible first 🙂
Well, this really came down to, who can win in a fight, Dr. Frasier Crane or Sheldon Cooper and the winner was Sheldon Cooper, this was, therapists versus scientists and science won..
Well said. Nice references 🙂
I’d say the next death battle with what u’re watching might be Dante vs Bayonetta or Ragna vs Sol Badguy. Only reason to not go for DvB is u might want to finish the story vids first but I will say at the point DB did the clash DMC5 didn’t exist yet
Okay. So once we get through DMC 4 then we can do the Death Battle 😊
13:25 Arcane is actually cannon. It’s because jinx and vi had next to no backstory before arcane that they were able to create their backstory with Arcane. What they were trying to say in death battle is that Jinx has many different non cannon skins and stories as if she was in different universes which they wouldn’t consider like if jinx was a magical girl.
I guess we’ve just heard different things as to whether Arcane is canon or not 🤗 someone else also said that Arcane is the real canon and the game is the off shoot 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 it doesn't help that riot has said conflicting things. league tends to have a loose canon too, so we probably won't figure out for a while how canon Arcane is.
For those that seen Joker v Sweettooth, Harley tried to pull the same W as Mr. J but failed
somebody was cracking there knuckles....or just popping the fingers for stretch?
Probably Bethany cracking knuckles. Or might’ve just been something popping randomly. Happens 😂🤗
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Harley´s psycho tactics may even have worked against here in this battle when u think about it. psycho tactics require atleast some knowledge about the subject to be effective, u need to know what buttons to push to get a caracter off there game so to speak. But not so far that they lose all sense of reality and self preservation. Becouse of how these fights happening at random Harley dosent know where in Jinx´s mind to attack. Also when u have a so unstable mind as Jinx already have is psycho tactics even a viable option when u could so easily push your subject to far and all hell could break lose if u do. They did a good job showing Jinx getting thrown of her game for a short moment. But just for a short moment and after that she went over the edge so to speak and mind games wasent gonna work anymore.
All valid points. And it’s not so much that the tactic didn’t work. It’s just that they used Harleys talents to do a callback instead of having her use a clever tactic and still not working on Jinx 🤗
Idk what ones you have planned but can you please do Luigi vs tails or Dan hibiki vs Mr Satan whenever you have the chance
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18:39 They're now going 88 miles per hour!
They took away each characters final quotes for time constraints, i think.
By the way, do you know about BDX? If not, i highly recommend checking it out, maybe start off with the Gogeta vs Vegito DBX?
We don’t know about dbx but nice to know we have more stuff to check out 😀
dont worry....just 1 of those days. I mean there are plenty of matches I wanted others to win but it happens the other way around.....just got to accept it I suppose. but got to love that Fish Bazooka moment....(LOOK OUT...SHES RIGHT BEHIND YOU).....talk about losing the element of surprise
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Yeah this is one that I took a LITTLE issue with, though it wasn't necessarily that I strongly disagreed with the outcome. I still maintain that Jinx shouldn't have had some of those "special powers" they gave her because they weren't things she canonically has. Stuff like the Quicksilver Sash and the Phantom Dancer are generic items that can be bought from the in-game shop during a League of Legends game, they're not "Jinx" items so much as items that are RECOMMENDED for Jinx players to use when playing her. ANY character in the game that's designed to do damage with their basic attacks can get their hands on those items just like any random soldier on a battlefield can pick up a random axe on the ground. So that chapped my cheeks a little.
And her little teleporty iPad was literally just in ONE promotional cinematic for a new version of the game: Wild Rift. It's used as a plot device to have a fun little movie about her gathering up a team of characters to join her side and take part in an in-game match, most of these people living so far away from each other across the world that a little deus ex machina to get them all in one place was needed. Doesn't mean she canonically carries an Instant Teleport Gadget around (like, say...Deadpool canonically does). Death Battle read way too much into promotional material and game mechanics that are decidedly NOT character-specific or related to who they are as people.
Not saying Jinx couldn't win, they had a few points about her toxin resistance due to growing up in Zaun as well as her Shimmer infusion...and she IS very much the "shoot first, ask questions never" sort. Harley WOULD need a bit of a better understanding of her to properly psycho-analyze and manipulate her, and by Death Battle rules they throw these characters together without any prior knowledge/prep time (or else Batman just wins pretty much everything lol). Jinx is also far less reserved about raw chaos, mayhem, and murder than Harley has grown to be. In situations where Harley may hesitate, Jinx won't. So I see a lot of things favoring Jinx in this matchup, to say nothing of the fancy math they use for raw stats.
So at the end of the day...I don't refute the outcome, but I do kinda call shenanigans. Death Battle was a tad bit overly generous with their interpretation of her intrinsic kit and abilities, IMO. It was still fun to watch, though. :)
Okay, so if everyone can just imagine this is what we said at the end of the video that would be great. 😂 You summed it up well, Eric 😊 👏
sorry your Harley didnt win....I would have wanted her to win too but I suppose resistance, flexible items and weaponary & non trusting craziness wins this 1
Jinx for the win 😎🤟
Kong v godzilla by zimaut
Intense fight
That was a good reaction I know you cut out some parts due to rooster teeth being claiming the right. Now please react to Thanos vs Darkseid Deathbattle
Glad you understood why we had to cut parts. Actually still got a copyright claim so we are assuming they don’t want smaller reaction channels reacting to their current season. Which makes sense. And we have plenty to check out 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 dont worry we all your subscribers are with you guys 😀
It`s true that Powder/Jinx is unstable but she acts crazier and stupider than she actually is so her enemies will underestimate her as she takes sadistic glee in drawing out the panic!
Jinx and Harley would be great friends.
We’d like to think so 😊
Have you read the Batman: Wayne Family Adventures Webtoon yet, it’s a pretty entertaining read.
Haven’t read that one
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I highly recommend it.
Jinx is unapologetically crazy as of LoL, no psychiatric evaluation would stir her at all
Arcane as far as ik is cannon. Riot Games has never said either way I'd it's cannon or not, but Vii and Jinx have very little backstory in LoL so most fans consider it cannon regardless, despite some differences.
And also Shimmer does exist in the games it's just not explored all that much and does by a different name I do believe
I love both Jinx and Harley but I certainly think Jinx has a bit more of an advantage in this fight that she'd end up winning regardless. Regardless of Harley's mind games, it's almost impossible for her to use it effectively in this battle because she know almost nothing about Jinx to actually be able to effectively manipulate her
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Once you guys catch up with RWBY, please watch all the Deathbattles with RWBY characters. Also all of the Deadpool ones and all of the My Little Pony ones, one of those actually crosses over. Deadpool fights Pinkypie. One of my all time favorite Deathbattles is the Black Widow/ Widowmaker fight.
How far do we have to be in rwby to avoid spoilers? 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 So the Yang/ Tifa fight through Volume 2 is good. The Blake fight Volume 8. The Weis fight volume 6 or 7. The one featuring RWBY isn’t a full Deathbattle so that one you can do whenever.
I'm happy you both lost for going against Jinx muahaha
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jinx has shimmer in her body in the game to hence the purple eyes
This death battle was the most insane one that brings a new feature of animation to be amazing 😁 there are more on the way with bring satisfaction to shock features in this new season. Soon there is going to be Homelander “The boys” v Omi Man “Invincible” death battle soon. I feel like it might be a blood bath episode to react to.
Oh wow, that will be a bloody one for sure. The animation in this one was fantastic 🤩
I agree with you there 😁 hoping it comes Back for newer fights
Thanos vs Darkseid Deathbattle reaction please
Why did you not show the scenes with Wiz, Boomstick, and Ringmaster? Was it due to some kind of copyright issue?
Me parece genial q reaccionen a las batallas de Dead Battle 👍🏻
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I recommend you two watch omni man versus Homelander it’s a great video
Summoner's Rift isn't canon ... it's where you put humans up against literal gods and have it balanced enough for a popular ADC like Jinx to regularly pentakill entire enemy teams.
Using Summoner's Rift would be similar to using Kryptonian pills from Injustice, 'cos that's the only way Harley survives a punch from a Superman who isn't holding back.
Now do Thor Vs Vegeta Next!!!!
React to Thanos vs Darkseid Deathbattle
That is one we are for sure looking forward to 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 you'll love it
THIS IS A CLASSIC!!!!!
DEATH BATTLE - DEADPOOL VS THE MASK. TRUST ME Y'ALL WON'T B DISAPPOINTED
That sounds fun 😀
About psychology... I would say that Harley actually does not have such an advantage... Sure Jinx is damaged and Harley could certainly dig in and affect her but I doubt it would go the way she would hope... In Arcane Episode 9 The Monster You Created (Obvious spoilers): Jinx has Invited Vi, Silco, and Caitlyn to dinner (AKA she kidnapped and bound all of them) where they try to figure out where she is going to go and who she is going to be (Powder or Jinx)... Things go wrong as opinions are shared Jinx's insecurities start to flare up Caitlyn gets free grabs a gun and get knocked out... Things escalate as Silco tells Jinx to "finish it" and Vi starts yelling about remembering the family Powder accidentally Killed... Jinx's Trauma flares massively... She starts seeing the people like Vi tells her to except they are either yelling at her in fury and rage or looking at her disapprovingly, and she breaks down... Silco is seeing that Vi is unknowingly hurting his daughter and tries to tell her to shut up and stop but the yelling continues and Jinx is just getting worse and worse... Silco manages to grab a gun and goes to shoot Vi... Jinx reacts and Silco eats a chestful of bullets... as he is dying he confirm to Jinx that he loves her and would not have abandoned her and that even in his death he still thinks she is perfect... Jinx chooses who she is going to be from then on she takes the weapon she designed and attacks the Piltover council...
Why is that scene important to the conversation of psychological warfare working on Jinx? because while both Vi and Silco truly loved her, they were trying to manipulate her love for them to make her choose their side... and in the both affected her but neither got what they wanted either... Silco dies but so does Powder with him...
I would not see it as a surprise at all for Harley to try and play psychological tricks on Jinx only to end up making things worse for herself...
Can you react to Bendy vs Cuphead Death battle, I can't remember who won though
We plan to check all the Death Battles out eventually 😀
Guys next death battle broly vs hulk . Its a very good one
That one is coming 😜
You should react to the apex mobile trailers they're really good lol they won't show up on apexs main TH-cam though
Wonder why they don’t have it on their main page 🤔
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 ikr they have a channel called apex legends mobile if u want to watch them
I’m with team definitely not definitive on this, team Harley!!!
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the reason why Harley lost was because of jinx doesn't trust peolple right away. if she already knew Harley jinx wouldn't hurt her because she trust her.
Wow guys that was cool. Could you please react to thanos vs darkseid Deathbattle
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks vs Darkseid is definitely one we are excited to eventually check out 😊
Hope you'll watch Arca-wait... didn't you already did that? 🤔
Haha, yes we did 🤩
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Deja vu
This was a good reaction and reaction to Scarlet witch vs Zatanna next.
i honestly didn't realise that Harley was as Badass as sh is, i didn't know she turned into a hero eventually, ive alsways seen her as a villain (well other than in the Injustice universe) so this shone some light on her character, she was my pick from the start because i just dont know anything about Legue of Legends, i hope she wins now becuae she is even more of a Badass than i though.
Im writing this at the half way point b4 the battle if u didn't already notice.
I like Jinx way mre than Harley, and all the Comicbook stuff gets... laughably insane... BUT i agree, i don't see Jinx winning this.
Was a really cool fight to see and animation was fantastic 🤩
If Harley was in a death battle , there is no way jinx beat her
Even batman said she could beat him if she fought seriously
How a girl trained in combat, who has above normal strength and resistance ( how the f*ck. Jinx could stop her bat with one hand when Harley is stronger than an average humain ? ) , above average IQ , who managed to capture and kill robin alone, could lose to a simple schizophrenic girl....
I really like jinx ... But she far weaker than Harley
Guys react to “fight god” if you haven’t already the video is cool and design is cool. I wanna see which one will win again lol
Will add it to our request list 🙂
That's my girl... She's perfect.
I would have to disagree with both of you guys because even if Harley can mentally get into jinx's head it is not granted a win overall, they look at it on who would win the most rather then just one way, jinx is mentally unstable not dumb
Yeah we have to keep in mind this is a who would win most of the time type of thing. 🙂
I agree with your assessment that Harley should have won.
Harley. Quinn. Can. Pick. Up. A. Tree. With. One. Arm
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Heard that one is epic 🤩
I'm calling Jinx no doubt!
I get that you disagree, however this went exactly how I expected. In fact I think Harley came closer than I expected. Jinx is a genius yes Harley is smart but Jinx her information processing is rivled only by Ekko.
She's dostrusting of everyone. Before the toxins she's playing around and after she's serious and the moment she turned serieus Harley was done for.
Love the vids!!
Good call 😉