I"m an audio engineer for a living and I'm not keen on that method. I do have a passenger seat on it now and I will strap my audio recorder (used here) on it facing backwards. My body should block the wind. I'll give this a try soon...if it will ever stop raining here...
@@jonnymac8925 I wish I knew. I've researched and found no documents. I stayed with Indian to keep my warranty, but Lloyds makes a couple of more aggressive grinds. Running a hi-flow intake, better exhaust and a tune will be required regardless. I now have a tune on the bike with my PVCX. Glad you liked it!
Nice, but I prefer the quiet version. I ride to work (hospital). I'm saving money to buy this exact motorcycle. Thank you sir for this video and what a beautiful bike!
Sounds so great with that idle rumble in stage 2....i hesitate so much to spare money for this cause here in France laws become very annoying about noise and mods on bike :-/ i think basanni's exhaust are quieter, or maybe TAB with middle size baffles. Thanks for that vids of quality
Do you have a fuel tuner? I have similar set up minus the true duals from freedom which I am considering buying. I have a power commander which was recommended at the dealer when I had cams installed. I find that the idle seems almost too low sometimes once the bike is warmed up. Almost sounds like it is going to stall sometimes.
Dana Hansen not yet. I'm on the factory stage 2 reflash and I think it's a bit lean. When hot, she'll get a bit cranky when idling. A PC is next on my list. These tunes are constantly being updated I'm told. I have baffled Freedom pipes and love them. I tried the unbaffled. They were way too loud and sounded like metal garbage cans.
I have now purchased a PV-CX. No need to install anything, just reflash the ECU through the diagnostic port. My bike idles better and the decel popping has been 95% eliminated. Plus a little more grunt below 2500rpm.
I responded in the wrong place so I’ll respond here as well. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model and they only make one model of black true dual headers. Keep in mind that I’m running the stage 2 cams also.
What's that ticking sound at about 1:34? And... 2:40... the Freedoms... that level of sound is an instant defect notice here in Australia, sadly.. loss of rego + have to go over pits and pay for re-reg (about $600 + whatever the fine is now). Too loud.
@@Fluffbutt I've (and many others I know) never had a problem with cops + loud pipes, just too many bikes around, esp cruisers. Cruisers also aren't the most chased after, bikie gangs and cruisers maybe but otherwise...
@@jetstream454 I haven't had probs with WA police but the Qld ones... yeah... roadside noise tests are pretty common there, they'll pull you just 'cos you;re on two wheels.
@@Fluffbutt I've heard too many stories about QLD Pol these days... 4WD crackdown (I mean it may be illegal but c'mon the fact they picked on that was a power show), eating while driving, etc etc. Live in QLD? F that, "Australia's final frontier" my exhaust pipes 😂😂
Bálint Fucskó I don’t know the exact model number but you need the true dual headers and they only make one of those that’s black. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model.
This is a 2017. The "rattle" is really just the mechanics of the internals. I was warned that the hi-flow air intake would allow you to hear that more. Also, this the factory Stage 2 tune. I added a PVCX shortly afterwards and it idles a bit better.
Good comparison, If I trade off my Stratoliner (super bike by the way) next bike would need electronic cruise, and if for a Chieftain, I'd want the bags, deep fenders, Stage 2 upgrade only, not sure about windshield or a fairing.
@@ut1004bp I actually put a quick release windshield and soft bags on the bike. The windshield really helps at highway speeds but as it gets hotter, I'm using it less. But I do want to go longer distances, so next time, I will buy a fairing bike for sure.
She has a very lopey idle around 800rpm. On the factory Stage 2 tune (this video), she would stall on occasion when hitting the throttle too quickly. But I have since purchased a PVCX tuner from FuelMoto and uploaded their version of the Stage 2 tune and no more stalling since then. She still has that mean sounding big cam idle though! :)
Thanks for the reply. Are you still at 800rpms with the PCVX? Or did you increase the rpms. Mine are at 900-950. I will post a video in a few minutes. thanks for your reply. Nice bike.@@unsane
@@unsane I have same setup (with TAB zombies), but PVCX FM tune is set at 900-950 idle. Did FM send you the tune with the 800 idle or did you lower it? Your bike with them Freedom duals sounds nothing less than FANTASTIC!
the moment i heard the second one, a smile came automatically on my face ! thanks man for the video :)
X2 :)
Those fenders are Bad A$%^. Glad Indian kept them.
Indian motorcycles are the best motorcycles.
Was**
"Best" for what??
@@quickvmax3364 stupid harley guys
@@ashya.pashya his tag is vmax....?
Holy wow! What an amazing difference! Sounds great!
Now that’s what I call a proper exhaust before and after video!
I like the sound and hope your neighbours must love you very much..
I will be buying the same bike Soon
And stage 2 upgrade will be one of the first things I do
( the bike sounds so badass in idle)
Enjoy the bike 👍
That stage 2 Freedom is to DIE FOR. God bless you bro.
Working on a set up to record while riding without the wind noise.
Maybe you could even try an in-helmet mic.
I"m an audio engineer for a living and I'm not keen on that method. I do have a passenger seat on it now and I will strap my audio recorder (used here) on it facing backwards. My body should block the wind. I'll give this a try soon...if it will ever stop raining here...
SWEET bike and nice video! Thanks for sharing that sound with us.
I am now convinced I need the Stage 2 cams.
A lot more grunt below 3000 rpms as well.
@@unsane Whats the specs on the cams? It sounds mean!
@@jonnymac8925 I wish I knew. I've researched and found no documents. I stayed with Indian to keep my warranty, but Lloyds makes a couple of more aggressive grinds. Running a hi-flow intake, better exhaust and a tune will be required regardless. I now have a tune on the bike with my PVCX. Glad you liked it!
I was about to write you really need a tune but then I saw the link in the description. Sounds amazing!
God damn it sounds good no matter what!
I can just have this on a loop for a few hours :) absolute badassery, I love both sounds
My man...the badassness level of this...
i dont even like full size cruiser ... but i like this one, the styling is numero uno in my book... even the engine look fantastic
3:21 - 3:24 that kick was sooo tastyyyyy.... I was just on rewind mode.... 😍😍😍😍
Nice, but I prefer the quiet version. I ride to work (hospital). I'm saving money to buy this exact motorcycle. Thank you sir for this video and what a beautiful bike!
Did you get the bike?
Looks and sounds awesome.
2.08 convinced..
An Indian for an Indian
I have some friends in Mumbai who agree with you.
Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
The indian have a more muscular Exhaust note than the Harley
Sounds so great with that idle rumble in stage 2....i hesitate so much to spare money for this cause here in France laws become very annoying about noise and mods on bike :-/ i think basanni's exhaust are quieter, or maybe TAB with middle size baffles. Thanks for that vids of quality
Beautifull bike man! Congrats!!!
Stage 2 sounds necessary now, thanks
Don't forget the Dynojet PCVX tuner. The factory stage 2 tune has issues.
love the stance
Sounds and looks great!
You gotta rev it more than that. Won’t hurt the engine! Especially doing it once just for a video. Make it count
Now what lie to tell my wife that I need these 😆
Minchia che spettacolo di sound! 🤘
😍💓 loving it
These are a lot better then Harleys, Believe me.
Hi i’m french, i would like to know what is the brand of this exhaust pipe ? Because the sound is wonderfull !
Thank you
Romuald Bleriot Freedom Exhaust. These are the baffled versions.
Hello!
2: 02-3: 20mins sound very good! What is the exact name of the exhaust, I want one!
Hello Bálint
awesome
Bad ass
Looks like a bike I see for sale on CL. Nice.
Bad ass bike!’
Their seems to be a noticable metallic sound with stage 2
Correction...with stock
It's just the tone of the stock exhaust. It's very quiet, but you get a little snap to it. The pipes do sound a bit clangy as well.
Low idle ☠️👌
Do you have a fuel tuner? I have similar set up minus the true duals from freedom which I am considering buying. I have a power commander which was recommended at the dealer when I had cams installed. I find that the idle seems almost too low sometimes once the bike is warmed up. Almost sounds like it is going to stall sometimes.
Dana Hansen not yet. I'm on the factory stage 2 reflash and I think it's a bit lean. When hot, she'll get a bit cranky when idling. A PC is next on my list. These tunes are constantly being updated I'm told. I have baffled Freedom pipes and love them. I tried the unbaffled. They were way too loud and sounded like metal garbage cans.
I have now purchased a PV-CX. No need to install anything, just reflash the ECU through the diagnostic port. My bike idles better and the decel popping has been 95% eliminated. Plus a little more grunt below 2500rpm.
I would like to ask what the black exhaust, (FP), (TR) and (WPS) numbers are based on which I can choose from the catalog.
Hi: Balint
I responded in the wrong place so I’ll respond here as well. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model and they only make one model of black true dual headers. Keep in mind that I’m running the stage 2 cams also.
La moto que me quita el sueño ahora solo tengo la honda shadow pero un día voy a tener una de esa con Dios por delante
What's that ticking sound at about 1:34?
And... 2:40... the Freedoms... that level of sound is an instant defect notice here in Australia, sadly.. loss of rego + have to go over pits and pay for re-reg (about $600 + whatever the fine is now). Too loud.
I take it you live on the east side?
Of Oz?, Nah, Perth, west coast. But I do tour all over and know how much ankles the Qld cops are.
@@Fluffbutt I've (and many others I know) never had a problem with cops + loud pipes, just too many bikes around, esp cruisers. Cruisers also aren't the most chased after, bikie gangs and cruisers maybe but otherwise...
@@jetstream454 I haven't had probs with WA police but the Qld ones... yeah... roadside noise tests are pretty common there, they'll pull you just 'cos you;re on two wheels.
@@Fluffbutt I've heard too many stories about QLD Pol these days... 4WD crackdown (I mean it may be illegal but c'mon the fact they picked on that was a power show), eating while driving, etc etc. Live in QLD? F that, "Australia's final frontier" my exhaust pipes 😂😂
Nothing sounds like my Harley potato , potato, potato. Amen
More beautiful than a Woman.
Nice!!
Horse running sound in movies
Hello!
One more question!
Where can I order?
Welcome to Bálint Hungary
Bálint Fucskó www.freedomperform.com These are the true duals system so I have different headers then stock. I ordered mine through my Indian dealer.
Bálint Fucskó I don’t know the exact model number but you need the true dual headers and they only make one of those that’s black. The pipes are the 4 inch Liberty model.
What year is this Indian? I'm wondering about the tin-can rattle we are hearing most noticeable with Stage 2
This is a 2017. The "rattle" is really just the mechanics of the internals. I was warned that the hi-flow air intake would allow you to hear that more. Also, this the factory Stage 2 tune. I added a PVCX shortly afterwards and it idles a bit better.
Good comparison, If I trade off my Stratoliner (super bike by the way) next bike would need electronic cruise, and if for a Chieftain, I'd want the bags, deep fenders, Stage 2 upgrade only, not sure about windshield or a fairing.
@@ut1004bp I actually put a quick release windshield and soft bags on the bike. The windshield really helps at highway speeds but as it gets hotter, I'm using it less. But I do want to go longer distances, so next time, I will buy a fairing bike for sure.
At this moment , I am not buying Harley anymore ...
2:02 Stage 2
What are your RPMs idling at? Sounds low, any stalls?
She has a very lopey idle around 800rpm. On the factory Stage 2 tune (this video), she would stall on occasion when hitting the throttle too quickly. But I have since purchased a PVCX tuner from FuelMoto and uploaded their version of the Stage 2 tune and no more stalling since then. She still has that mean sounding big cam idle though! :)
Thanks for the reply. Are you still at 800rpms with the PCVX? Or did you increase the rpms. Mine are at 900-950. I will post a video in a few minutes. thanks for your reply. Nice bike.@@unsane
Yes....still around 800 or so when warmed up. I need to make a longer video with the PVCX going since it's not installed on this one. @@NewarkDevil66
@@unsane I have same setup (with TAB zombies), but PVCX FM tune is set at 900-950 idle. Did FM send you the tune with the 800 idle or did you lower it? Your bike with them Freedom duals sounds nothing less than FANTASTIC!
@@zutt3 This video was made before the tune, but I'm still around 800 rpm's though.
Nice sound！
It sounds a lot beter when you drive so not really high quality