we need a feather limit. not fair that Falco has so much plumage. being against a feather limit because it nerfs one character more than others is nonsense
1:57 Can we talk about how Mang0 SD'ed trying to ledge dash, and Leffen almost accidently homie stocked it by missing his platform waveland, but Mang0's laser saved him? I was laughing that whole exchange
Nothing like casters talking about sleep apnea as leffen shield reflects laser, into turnaround wave dash up tilt, into power shield getup attack into up throw into the rest of the stock
I love some of our melee commentators, but the Ultimate commentators are way more professional and better at the play-by-play. We could use to learn a little from them.
@@mjcar05 i dont think melee needs anymore play by play. We already have good commentators with different skill sets and it would be boring to focus on more analysis. Ult does cover more play by play but their commentary is typically also less engaging and captivating
@@spacevadr10 I think there is something to be said about being able to make the stakes feel high for a matchup like leffen and mango. Talking about sleep apnea during half of a leffen 4 stock is just something you do not want to see. Play by play isn’t really what I was looking for, but some sort of reaction to the crazy moment I was referring to should have been done imo
Are you watching the same game I am? G1 Leffen is flubbing on the edge, G2 he's getting stuck in shine and missing wavedashes. He picked it up for the next two games, though. Mang0's hot though. The downtilt extensions had me nutting.
@@traycarrot yes. We are. You just explained exactly what I’m talking about. Mango was stomping like a maniac to start then leffen reaaallly picked it up. Fucking four stocked mango. But obviously mango finished it up bc he was just hotter.
@@traycarrot def agree, on stadium leffen literally does 2 tourney winners in a row then finally ledgedashes and mango instantly punishes it lmao BUT it wasn't flubcity
Leffen is so sick! I want to see him get his consistency back and start tearing through brackets like he used to, because I think he absolutely has what it takes to hold top 5 in today’s scene.
When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
@@JNuts24 I have to disagree with you here because When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
For real dude its so trash its crazy. Toph was especially god awful this weekend talking about everything but the actual matches. Talking about random shit the whole time it annoyed the fuck outta me
Man the commentary this tourney was so off and on. Some commentators like Waff were great then you got Toph's dumbass talking about what words he lost to in the spelling bee while amsa is playing ibdw. Please never have Toph commentate again
Lmao i get not liking leffen but so many people just completely downplay anything this man does 😂. Had it been any other player peeps would’ve been talking about that casual game 3 four stock. Hell it could’ve been a reverse set had leffen hit that up air game 4 but nah we just gonna gloss over that as well
Because hes a douchebag on a very big scale. And its equally douchebaggy to downplay or ignore all his cancer stuff just because he is a good player. Grow up and quit being anti social
we need a feather limit. not fair that Falco has so much plumage. being against a feather limit because it nerfs one character more than others is nonsense
Each of the feathers give him a significant advantage we gotta pluck some of those to keep the game running
Finally somebody said it
@@justopinions5919 I’m just saying what everybody is thinking
Omg this is so funny!!
@@gruntilda2 #PluckFalco2023 start the movement. speak truth to power. rise up Leffen fans!!!
1:57 Can we talk about how Mang0 SD'ed trying to ledge dash, and Leffen almost accidently homie stocked it by missing his platform waveland, but Mang0's laser saved him? I was laughing that whole exchange
I think Fox can survive a failed ledgedash at Yoshi's platform height
Pretty sure Fox would grab ledge
fox would grab ledge and even if he didnt randal wouldve saved him
that mango sd almost felt homiestock-like but not for leffen tho never lol
Lol yep definitely not on purpose. I think Randall would have caught him if he missed ledge, which also would have been hilarious.
We need a GOAT limit. It’s not fair Mang0 is so hype
Combining two of the best things in melee: Mang0 winning and Leffen losing.
Nothing like casters talking about sleep apnea as leffen shield reflects laser, into turnaround wave dash up tilt, into power shield getup attack into up throw into the rest of the stock
Granted they did reference it at 12:37 but I agree I would want to hear it during the game
I love some of our melee commentators, but the Ultimate commentators are way more professional and better at the play-by-play. We could use to learn a little from them.
@@mjcar05 i dont think melee needs anymore play by play. We already have good commentators with different skill sets and it would be boring to focus on more analysis. Ult does cover more play by play but their commentary is typically also less engaging and captivating
The casting for the first part of this top 8 was really bad. I'm a fan of the cheat but jackzilla and the other one make it so hard to watch
@@spacevadr10 I think there is something to be said about being able to make the stakes feel high for a matchup like leffen and mango. Talking about sleep apnea during half of a leffen 4 stock is just something you do not want to see. Play by play isn’t really what I was looking for, but some sort of reaction to the crazy moment I was referring to should have been done imo
5:29 he dances in rythm with the music, a true legend !
Just some good old fashioned, god damn beautiful barebones Melee
I see mang0 vs leffen i click
For all of Mango's 4 stocks on Leffen, this is Leffen's first 4 stock on Mango
Didn't know that! Such clean play by leffen that game, in the middle of a fairly one sided set otherwise.
Almost had the energy of Armada vs Leffen back in Paragon, where Armada 4 stocks Leffen after going down 2-0.
Leffen always known to be able to get 4 stocked However he is the only person ever to 4 stock armada which he did twice so there’s that
10:55 - That airdodge recovery is one of the craziest things I have ever seen.
Crazy how old this game is and we still seeing new stuff
11:24 Mango earned that salty head shake
Mango vs Leffen always delivers
that set was fucking madness. Clean ass play on both sides Jesus Christ.
Are you watching the same game I am? G1 Leffen is flubbing on the edge, G2 he's getting stuck in shine and missing wavedashes. He picked it up for the next two games, though.
Mang0's hot though. The downtilt extensions had me nutting.
@@traycarrot yes. We are. You just explained exactly what I’m talking about. Mango was stomping like a maniac to start then leffen reaaallly picked it up. Fucking four stocked mango. But obviously mango finished it up bc he was just hotter.
@@traycarrot def agree, on stadium leffen literally does 2 tourney winners in a row then finally ledgedashes and mango instantly punishes it lmao
BUT it wasn't flubcity
@@RadicalTadpoles1000 Flubbing tech for two games and going down 0-2 is an interesting definition of "clean ass play" LOL
@@traycarrot are we just straight up ignoring games 3-4?
Came to watch this after the tourney, missed the set originally but knew the result, and it was still amazing to watch.
"And where are the eggs coming from? At least I know the lasers are coming from the gun" sent my sides into orbit💀💀💀
Feels it's been a while since we've had a mang0 leffen set
Is Leffen gonna complain about needing a laser limit?
Put Fox on a laser limit. Immediate backtrack lmao
Gonna tell people that mang0 needs a limit on how many buttons he can use
@@EtopiaCA right?
Melee has the best commentators of any esport.
We need a shine limit smh
Leffen is the perfect guy to face Mango. Love these sets.
well if this is the last ever mango vs leffen set we get in a tournament it was fun seeing the rivalry between these two evolve.
Leffen’s defense was absolutely insane and it simply wasn’t enough
Great commentary
11:05 "OH NO"
[for mango]
what is with the framerate of the gameplay constantly going up and down? it must be a streaming issue because I have noticed it for years now.
woah the leffen 4 stock sick
Leffen is so sick! I want to see him get his consistency back and start tearing through brackets like he used to, because I think he absolutely has what it takes to hold top 5 in today’s scene.
no
Not gonna see me separating the person from the player.
melee when mango is on top is the best melee
Mango doesn't pay taxes, he's unemployed.
I love the obligatory “worried about the losers bracket” as if leffen wasn’t going to just go crumble mentally as expected.
Mango won 3-1 despite losing as many stocks as Leffen the whole set. Now that's the Mango.
that is mathematically not possible
Once I saw 1:10 I knew it was over.
Was Mango a bit sick? I don't see him wearing a mask in grands
Mang0 bent lil bro over
Nah, you can't get away with saying something that disrespectful 🤣 💀💀💀
he got 4 stocked this set wym
@@sunflowertheog nah that's low key cope. I'll give you that Leffen had us going for a game there. But he didn't even force a game 5.
"bent lil bro over" "low key cope"
jesus christ shut up
@@sunflowertheog I’ll say it again, lil Lef got his shit pushed in by a goat
Mang0 looks like falco with that mask on lmao
winning or 3-0'd that's just the nature of a glass cannon. You win or you get annihilated
why is the game screen so small?
My 2 favorite players :) Would love to see Big Leff get his groove back though
Leffen sucks
That first game was flamesss
Anyone else find Leffen's angry lil punch at the end satisfying af?
anyone got the song on the replay?
It's like Leffen only practices on FD lol
7:38 Karma turned 😄
there are few things i like more than watching leffen lose
Didn't chudat reverse 3-0 mango within the last few years
Laser limit please
No one's going to acknowledge the 4-stock?
Love the subtle always sunny reference
That game 2 final stock 0 to death
We need a win limit per tournament.
banger
#Freehax
Good round
Who's on the mic? They're some weirdos
Huge
last year and second half of this year might be the best mang0 has ever been
Damn...
#BanLeffen
We need an A button limit
Common Leffen L.
Bro ever video with leffen having “x limit” comments is fucking hilarious
Hi Jafaeu
So glad leffen lost.
Crazy how much people hate leffen, couldnt even get 1 single cheer for the 4 stock lmao
Leffen aint doing so hot nowadays
I’m so ready for everyone to stop making these “we need a ____ limit” jokes
Yeah, they're fine WHEN THEY"RE CLEVER, which is almost never.
Part of the reason I immediately clicked on the video
We need a joke limit
When Leffen stops being a pissbaby I think they’ll fade away.
@@giant-womanLOL
Cant beleive we banned hax for this 😠
leffen u're such a buster...
Leffens trash 🗑️
you can see players get old and cant keep up with movement
When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
@@JNuts24 I have to disagree with you here because When everyday people say that they could beat pcchris and Ken in their prime because of how far melee has come i say you are stupid. The level is so high now the movement has top players killing themselves more often than the competitors lmao. I guarantee you Ken would wax anyone if he stilled played religiously.. It was his adaptability and stone cold precision that made him virtually unbeatable.
LMAO
Worst commentary of all time
L
For real dude its so trash its crazy. Toph was especially god awful this weekend talking about everything but the actual matches. Talking about random shit the whole time it annoyed the fuck outta me
@@raaseraphic go back to ultimate
Still… wearing….. masks 😷……….. stahp
First
Man the commentary this tourney was so off and on. Some commentators like Waff were great then you got Toph's dumbass talking about what words he lost to in the spelling bee while amsa is playing ibdw. Please never have Toph commentate again
Dang, Mang0 needs a stock taking limit
terrible commentary
why are you still wearing Masks ?
LFG MANG
Man seeing stuff from 2020 when people were forced to wear face masks as a compliance test is weird now lol. Oh wait this was recorded 3 days ago?
Lmao i get not liking leffen but so many people just completely downplay anything this man does 😂. Had it been any other player peeps would’ve been talking about that casual game 3 four stock. Hell it could’ve been a reverse set had leffen hit that up air game 4 but nah we just gonna gloss over that as well
for real
Because leffen is a p***y and deserves the hate
Because hes a douchebag on a very big scale. And its equally douchebaggy to downplay or ignore all his cancer stuff just because he is a good player. Grow up and quit being anti social
Mango dick riding is a pinnacle smash community behavior.
I mean it’s really hard to like him when he bitches about literally anything and can’t accept that he just gets outplayed when he loses