There some truth in that though .in a pack of wolves. The leader was once a subordinate.or a beta .however following sound at leadership at the heels of another alpha is a stepping stone of getting coached and tetulaged into being at the top eventually however leadership always begins with following .
Frank Dees yup, I know the feeling too well. In middle school I discovered I was perfect pitch and my 8th grade teacher was like perfect pitch GOD and can play every instrument perfectly...I challenged him to a perfect pitch contest...lets just say I lost and he was friggin naming the notes before the piano player struck it lmao...humbling as fuck
This is why I love the Drumline movies!!not just because I love playing percussion, but it emphasizes a lot on teamwork, self discipline, hard work! never tolerating with ego, hard headedness. ONE BAND ONE SOUND
@@p3chu9ita Agreed. The second one was basically just this movie done with a female lead and from the perspective of the social media age. Otherwise, it didn't come close to the original.
Say what you will about this movie whether you’re a drummer or not. Dr Lee was an amazing teacher, conductor, and leader. A lot of coaches need to do this. Basically tell your star player “I don’t care how good you are. If you’re not a team player, step up or get out.”
Dr Lee was killing Devon's ego from the inside out . Instantly chiding him for thinking he bested Sean on the particular line .thus cementing a most pivotal truth at the end .
For everyone that doesn't get what happened its devin not following lead of the band. He caught on to the simple cadence and when it was his time he played it but if you pay attention Devin was aggressive and ultimately paces faster than Shawn. While Devin showing he could out play shawn, that was a clear takeaway that Devin hadn't yet brought into the concept of "one band one sound." As you can see when Dr Lee called him out on it, even tho it was performing the same cadence. It wasn't about his coordination and if he could walk and do it . But now that he to his successor had to become a follower thus humbling himself. A simple step in a direction forced him to submit to a lead. This is why Dr Lee told him directly "you have to learn to follow before you can lead Mr Miles."
I never understood this scene until I read this response. In my mind I was thinking wtf was he supposed to do, lose on purpose? But now I realize he was in fact out pacing Shawn to prove he was better, instead of trying to match him to achieve the “one band one sound” concept. Thanks for this explanation!
Devin was focused on being one thing, the best drummer " The Man" . Dr. Lee, in order to achieve his position had to be the best at EVERYTHING.. Not to mention the responsibilities of being delegator, a mediator, all the curve balls his position commands, in terms of academics etc etc.. Dealing with alumni .. Sometimes you gotta swim where the surf takes you, you gotta scramble be flexible. Dr. Lee showed Devon if you really think you are the best, answer that question when you have to ix a couple of sections, deal with other students personal issues etc, family issues meanwhile having the focus to knock out that drum solo 100% without hesitation..... This of all the mental distractions is why he made Devon WALK with HIM during their face off.. He was giving Devon the drumline equivalent of a hors d'oeuvres to what it took to REALLY be " The Man "..
I definitely didn't get what happened until I read your comment Homie. I always saw it as Devon was being challenged and hated on. Thanks a million for explaining this
Dr. Lee: FREEZE!!!! I WANT YOUR KNEES HITTING YOUR CHEST THEN DRIVE YOUR FEET INTO THE GROUND!!!! I'LL SAY AGAIN, KNEES INTO CHEST THEN FEET HIT THE GROUND!!!!
Every side character was perfect. Charles & Jason too, The bus driver, buck wild (the only speaking drum major), the drum line guy who was getting crunk before the first show. "Down here it's all about the marching bands dog" then the "boom....boom....😬" face he made when coming out the tunnel for the first show. Him telling Devin "gon rip it dawg" when Sean confronted Devin with sheet music. Him telling Sean "you got some b*tch moves" when Devin walked out. The old senior director over dr Lee. "We win they right checks" face ahh. Mr wade "20 years as my assistant he still haven't learned to put his best players on the field." Or "whewww, still got the paton stuck up yo ass huh?" AJ & free + Petey Pablo cameos. Hell even the announcers talking over the pa during the shows.
This was such a great movie. Something postive. I was in drumline in high school @ paschal high school in Fort Worth texas. Good memories. This movie let me know it was cool to be in drumline and not listen to any haters. Glad I was in drumline. Gave birth to me making music. Much love.
I was in elementary school in 2002 when this first came out and it inspired me to be in band. Fast forward in H.S. 2006-2010 I decided to be a color guard in band. We were a HBCU band style but we also did UIL just as great as we did show band. How Dr.Lee was is exactly how my Band director was in H.S. RIH Ronald Thornton🙏🏽😢Mighty Eagle Band Willowridge H.S.
Same. I was a little kid when this came out too. You’re actually a year older than me. I never played band but I related to the movie cause certain scenes reminded me of the intense training regimen I had in martial arts. Or scenes like this where your teacher has to humble you and remind you that you aren’t as good as you think you are. Except in my case, my teacher reminded me by kicking my ass 😅😅😅
I remember watching this from a bootleg theater copy in 2002 ... maybe 2003. Makes me get the itch again and I can’t even play an instrument!!! But boy ... this movie still gets me hype (like I can actually do something all these years later - ha!) One lesson I’ve learned is humility first, skill second, and pride ... harness it and let pride fuel the humility. You can always learn something from everyone. If you try to outperform someone ... even if you win, you still lose.
@c: Methods Dr. Lee: ONE BAND, ONE SOUND!!!! WHEN ONE OF US IS LATE WE'RE ALL LATE, WHEN ONE OF US LOOKS OR SOUNDS BAD WE ALL LOOK AND SOUND BAD, SO WHAT'S THE CONCEPT?
@@shocknationwrestling2012 And while you're joggin around the field let the robust composition of 'the saints come marching in' flow through your mind!!!!
Always remember this: playing the drums, it's like making love. But you can't be looking down there, seeing what's going on, trying to get the flow right.
When I first saw this..I was surprised Dr. Lee could play the drums so well. None of my band directors could drum worth shit..they all played horns lol..
Both of mine can play everything in the band, one is a trumpet main, and he can somewhat drum, the other is a drum main, and he's probably one of the best drummers I've ever met in my life, he does it professionally
if you dont know how to play its cool. once you learn how to play its the most ridiculous movie ever. because you realise the rhythms and all the rudiments they play are the most simplest of them all. and at times they are't even playing so yeah its possible to not like the movie. i mean i used to love it before i started drumming for my school's drumline.
Abraham Perez-Gordillo As a former liner, I'd say they're actually not nearly as bad as you're trying to make them out to be. I still love this movie because at the end of the day, the cadences, however slick, tight, or complex/simple, mean nothing to the overall message - what separates a "percussionist" from a "concussion-ist". Ego has no place on the line, or in the big leagues.
instead of drummers pointing out the painful flaws in the movie. You should appreciate them doing a movie to focus on drum lines. The casual veiwer wont notice these flaws. Remember, they are holding an audience and need some entertainment, to make it sound cool, by possibly over hyping it. could they have done better? yes. But these are actors not drummers
Mo Overall Fitness Hacks I personally have adopted that mindset when I watch this movie, and I find it more enjoyable that way. However I'm sure we can all agree that Drumline 2 was just a terrible movie.
The music critics do that with Whiplash also. Us casuals don’t know every moving part. If you want exact realism go watch a documentary. These movies create exposure. Brings a few new faces to these arts. Relax
@@FlyyGirl1000 Yup, cause no matter what he said, the task was to not look down. She let that bs talk get her distracted. Which was the point of him saying that.
@@jordanglasper1064 she still does and he finally asked her out when he graduated into the fraternity of the brother hood of theta nu theta. 😎😊 Then we started dating and got married afterwards. 2 drummers one sound makes beautiful symphony of LOVE. 😂🤣
This came out when I was 12. I watched this DVD every night for months on my PlayStation 2... back when gaming was simple pop in a disc a play ...Boom!
True Wisdom passed down from the Master to a student. A student that is naturally advanced but has not the proper direction and experience which can get himself to fail or self destruct.
such a great movie!! having grown up playing snare drum in a drum corps, (DCI-Garfield Cadets, now called, The Cadets '79-'84), this movie reminded me of so many good memories and the important life learning lessons that helped prepare me for life out of high school...this movie does a great job teaching that teamwork, discipline, and attitude are vital to reaching goals...the drum battles in this movie are insanely awesome too! 💯💥✌🥁🎵🎶
It really is a shame. I’m such a big fan of his, and especially at this time when things were really happening for him. I can’t imagine how much he got paid by 7up tho. I know he’s still working solid gigs, but I bet it was enough that he didn’t need to work after
i'm 15 and this movie was an inspiration for every percussionist i know thats my age and we reenact the "dont look down" scene all the time. i wonder if anyone else does that
don't see how he looked like a "jackass". he still schooled one of the drum masters of that staff in front of people. that was the most goonish thing i've seen.
he was smirking like an ass thinking he was the best. and when dr lee came up he proved that miles still had a lot to learn. as lee and SuperImmunologist said, "you have to learn to follow before you can lead"
It's not about "schooling" anyone. One band, one sound. Devon's ego won't allow him to work with his team. It doesn't matter how good a drummer he is (or thinks he is) - if he can't work with them, then he's completely useless. Fact of life. If he has no dedication, discipline, or humility to his craft, he can't proceed...on the line, or even in his own life. When Sean tells him to go and "be the man, without the line", Devon doesn't know what to do. Sean and Lee are trying to teach him how to become a better and stronger PERSON. Showing people up has nothing to do with it.
GREAT MOVIE.......:) MY SISTER BAND IN 2004, EASTERN WAYNE HS, GOLDSBORO NC, WON STATE CHAMPIONS...THEY PLAYED THIS DRUMLINE THEME AT HOMECOMING...THE WHOLE CROWD WENT CRAZY.... :) AWESOME
No, Devon picked it up with the force. Also just want to ask, why would he even use a stick back during practice if you only get one chance? If you drop your stick(s) it's over, pick it up. Last thing, I was bothered by this movie's success because I was in my high school marching band at the time. Ever since the movie, more emphases and attention was placed on the drum solos. It may take skill to learn to pump your arms with style but it takes the same amount of effort, if not more to control your breathing (I was in the brass section btw).
This is my kind of movie! Drumline isn't just about the "ohhh hit sticks on a hard surface hehe"! It's about the discipline, the dedication, determination, teamwork, and shows that marching is NOT EASY.
There wasn't anyone better, Sean even said it towards the end. But one man doesn't make a band and that's the point Dr. LEE wanted to illustrate to Devon.
I love the way this character teaches us That one must learn That in the end we all must learn to follow In order to be a successful leader This character teaches us that we are one Yessssssssssssss Together we rise New feel I likeeeee
It doesn´t matter how good you say you are, it doesn´t matter how easy or not the music is in this movie, NEWSFLASH they`re actors, they act, not musicians. The moral of the story is that in a group, of anykind, band, work, school, anything, you have to be able to sacrifice the needs of the individual for the needs and common good of the group.
+Abel Miranda while your point about the moral may be (and is) valid, your little newsflash that these are actors and not actual musicians, a fact that I doubt a single person here was unaware of, just make you look like a pretentious jackass
+FerretJohn The fact that I don't even remember why I said such further supports whether or not I should question you're reasoning as to why you responded...because honestly i could care less lol
It was the smile after that was the problem... dr Lee was addressing an attitude of showing up the section leaders... while you may not need them there is 40 other people who do need them to get betterand you making them lose respect
even though this band is a show band, it still revolves around the same theme that every school faces. we all get criticized by our students, we all get told we need "new" songs, and finally we are asked why we arent as good as another school's band. Instead of focusing on just stand tunes and entertainment, this movie portrays just how important the marching show is. Dr. Lee said so himself that he looks forward to educate before getting to entertain. show bands are ok, but i prefer DCI style.
@@keithlee4963 dude it’s an analogy, and he was right you can’t look down. Not for your dot or at your drum because when your wearing a shack or something similar it’s clear as day that you suck.
You’re missing the whole point bruh. You are young so Dr. Lee’s methods of coaching Devin might seem antagonist or mean spirited but it’s obvious he recognized a great talent. He was trying to make Devin fail to humble him and check his cocky and near primal Donna behavior. Once Devin humbled himself, he became the SuperStar of the drumline.
man watching this now makes me miss being in band. played percussion. band camp was fun, honestly, getting up early was usually the best part of the day to be out because it started getting hot. 3 days of my first week of band camp it was 98-100 degrees out, honestly wanted to give in but never did, the pay off is always worth it
Everybody says this movies wack and this and that but this movie is really great. The music alone. Yes I fast forward through the love interest parts cause that was a very weak component to the movie, but the fights between him and Shawn, the troubles of the Doc, the situations with his roommates etc, that was really the meat of the movie. The lessons through music, and the band... if you can taste it you get it.
People seem to forget that both Sean and Devon are polar opposites of one another. Devon's a cocky little shit, I don't think people quite get that. Sean too had an attitude problem but of a different sort. Both Devon and Sean thought that they were the best. In Devon's case, it's because he was sought after by Doctor Lee and eventually become a P1 which was unheard of for a freshman. Devon figured that everyone would bow to his superior skill within the band; however, it's like Sean pointed out later on: "When you're out there, they don't hear YOU. They hear the BAND." Through this, and Sean's own development, Devon becomes less cocky and learns how to be part of the team. In fact, you see it during the finals of the contest as Morris Brown's drummer starts tapping on Devon's drum and Devon barely reacts (clinching his sticks aside) compared to earlier when Devon provoked a fight on the football field when he started tapping on someone else's drum. Sean's problem came from the fact that his ego was inflated due to his position within the group as a section leader. Sean believed that he was the best of the best and then here comes some little freshman who has a consistent attitude problem and is admittedly very talented. But Sean's problem comes from his authority as a section leader. Given that becoming a section leader takes a lot of dedication and work, it's easy to see how Sean could forget that he was once where the freshmen were. In fact, Doctor Lee even called out Sean during a private conversation where he asserted that Sean felt intimidated by Devon's abilities as a drummer instead of trying to help Devon where he needed it. Sean eventually learns to become more relaxed in his approach and actually mentors Devon and shows Devon the value of learning how to read music.
All of this is very well said. In this particular scene, Devon felt like he proved something after beating Sean in the drum challenge, which Dr Lee noticed. Dr Lee exposed Devon's lack of technical skills, in order to humble him. Sean, as section leader, likely has all of necessary technical skills as well
I still dont get Dr Lee, sean wanted devon miles to play as fast and accurately as he could widdout looking down, and dats exactly what he did...what in the heck was Dr Lee pissed off about?
He wasn't pissed, he was doing his job. Devon had to learn (along with reading music) that leadership had to be earned and to blend his talent with the rest of the band instead of individually........
@@davydmx And what does that have to do with the challenge specifically? Should he have failed on purpose? Just because he had a smug look doesn't mean much of anything. That's his persona throughout the damn film, even during the final battle.
Joshua Jardel Allotey it’s because Dr. Lee could sense Devons arrogance from beating Sean. It wasn’t so much that he beat him, but the way Devon beat Sean. It was that arrogance dr. Lee had a drive out of Devon. But what Dr. Lee fail to recognize was the arrogance within his own top student, Sean.
For all you non-drumliners, that's really easy to play and I'm surprised those two would mess up when they did, in college. I can do that in high school.
"this movie was painful for real drummers to watch" Real drummers would know that not all bands are corps style, and that HBCU drumlines are an entirely different style.
Even non corps style bands aren’t as fucking dirty and sloppy as this. High school drumlines are cleaner than this and this is supposed to be a college drumline
Man, they run that drum line like a boot camp. The push ups, the running, the drills. Just like going into the Marine Corps. Only difference is they're on a college campus playing music instead of heading out to some village to kill enemy combatants.
The casting of Orlando Jones as dr. Lee was pure genius
I love Orlando Jones. He is beyond sexy..😛
It truly was a great casting.
Agreed 💯💯
absolutely. the man is underrated.
Pure genius is that ANY other actor could've played that role. Terrance Howard to Don Cheadle, anyone in between.
"You have to learn to follow before you can lead Mr Miles " such a cold line
There some truth in that though .in a pack of wolves. The leader was once a subordinate.or a beta .however following sound at leadership at the heels of another alpha is a stepping stone of getting coached and tetulaged into being at the top eventually however leadership always begins with following .
@@LintonMaskall-x3h yes indeed
Doctor Lee was low key a beast on every instrument goddam
TheSaturnSound For real. He's a laid back teacher that can actually outplay the entire band on any instrument lol
Frank Dees yup, I know the feeling too well. In middle school I discovered I was perfect pitch and my 8th grade teacher was like perfect pitch GOD and can play every instrument perfectly...I challenged him to a perfect pitch contest...lets just say I lost and he was friggin naming the notes before the piano player struck it lmao...humbling as fuck
Of course he could.
@@frankdees507☀ good morning
😏....🥁 don't look down remember?
This is why I love the Drumline movies!!not just because I love playing percussion, but it emphasizes a lot on teamwork, self discipline, hard work! never tolerating with ego, hard headedness. ONE BAND ONE SOUND
The second one was garbage, low budget trash, horrible acting, the final battle and the Classic were both like 2 minutes each
without even knowing you I know you know nothing about Drumline if you actually liked this movie and thought it was accurate at all
@@p3chu9ita Agreed. The second one was basically just this movie done with a female lead and from the perspective of the social media age. Otherwise, it didn't come close to the original.
@@kurtismcdonald8884 Ew. 😞
One band. One sound.
"You have to learn how to follow before you could lead"
That's a powerful quote
Said by many great leaders, in a variety of ways, throughout time. As true today as it was 200 years ago.
notice devin was the only one with a black shirt ! very dope concept..1band1sound 🎼
What I love is that it shows Dr. Lee has an understanding in all areas of music. Even percussion based instruments.
They all do. They have to. It's literally a requirement.
You replied to this dude after 12years. He might be ded uk or u might be ded or I might be ded...
@@ccptube3468😂😂
@@ccptube3468 🤣🤣🤣
Say what you will about this movie whether you’re a drummer or not. Dr Lee was an amazing teacher, conductor, and leader. A lot of coaches need to do this. Basically tell your star player “I don’t care how good you are. If you’re not a team player, step up or get out.”
The great phil jackson was like that with the bulls and lakers
Doing that today, you would lose your star player
@@FeaRDirTy
no, the star player would get you fired.
LeBron *cough cough**
Dr Lee was killing Devon's ego from the inside out . Instantly chiding him for thinking he bested Sean on the particular line .thus cementing a most pivotal truth at the end .
For everyone that doesn't get what happened its devin not following lead of the band. He caught on to the simple cadence and when it was his time he played it but if you pay attention Devin was aggressive and ultimately paces faster than Shawn. While Devin showing he could out play shawn, that was a clear takeaway that Devin hadn't yet brought into the concept of "one band one sound." As you can see when Dr Lee called him out on it, even tho it was performing the same cadence. It wasn't about his coordination and if he could walk and do it . But now that he to his successor had to become a follower thus humbling himself. A simple step in a direction forced him to submit to a lead. This is why Dr Lee told him directly "you have to learn to follow before you can lead Mr Miles."
I never understood this scene until I read this response. In my mind I was thinking wtf was he supposed to do, lose on purpose? But now I realize he was in fact out pacing Shawn to prove he was better, instead of trying to match him to achieve the “one band one sound” concept. Thanks for this explanation!
I think your going way to into it
Nailed it
Devin was focused on being one thing, the best drummer " The Man" . Dr. Lee, in order to achieve his position had to be the best at EVERYTHING.. Not to mention the responsibilities of being delegator, a mediator, all the curve balls his position commands, in terms of academics etc etc.. Dealing with alumni ..
Sometimes you gotta swim where the surf takes you, you gotta scramble be flexible. Dr. Lee showed Devon if you really think you are the best, answer that question when you have to ix a couple of sections, deal with other students personal issues etc, family issues meanwhile having the focus to knock out that drum solo 100% without hesitation.....
This of all the mental distractions is why he made Devon WALK with HIM during their face off.. He was giving Devon the drumline equivalent of a hors d'oeuvres to what it took to REALLY be " The Man "..
I definitely didn't get what happened until I read your comment Homie. I always saw it as Devon was being challenged and hated on. Thanks a million for explaining this
"You Have to learn to Follow before you can Lead!"
Whoiooooii
Life words 🙏💯
If you want to be the leader you must first be a follower
That's dumb, leaders dont follow, they lead.... followers follow
@@boulbaggies1465 exactly
Dr. Lee is pure respect! He gives it, and earned it!
Dr. Lee: FREEZE!!!! I WANT YOUR KNEES HITTING YOUR CHEST THEN DRIVE YOUR FEET INTO THE GROUND!!!!
I'LL SAY AGAIN, KNEES INTO CHEST THEN FEET HIT THE GROUND!!!!
Devon's first mess up was coming outside with all black on while everyone else was wearing white t-shirts!
he didn't read the book
@@lobsterblacc9478 true!!
Man, I've watched this movie a million times, & didn't even realize that until you said some lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lobsterblacc9478 😂😂😂
One day of doing stuff outside he would have probably realized white is a heck of a lot cooler in the heat.
One Band.... One Sound..... Always loved that motto
What’s a motto?
Nothing, what’s the motto with you?
This movie is so underrated. One of my favorite movies.
this movie is not underrated wtf 😒
When one of us is late we are ALL late. When one of us looks and sounds bad WE ALL look and sound bad.
So what's the concept?
@@kiastevens6506 one band one sound!
Homie DoMore now I want 10 laps for all those who are not their roommates momma
Steel Jackson don’t whine!
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅that part waz funny
The guy that played the coach deserves a award for his performance
orlando Jones
He's not a coach. He's a music director. A coach could learn a thing or two from a good director about discipline.
@@squigtonianmayhem4602 feel better now?
The fact that Orlando was just as talented as miles says a lot
He wasnt as talented, he just knew how to lead and follow lol thats the whole point of the scene.
Earnest and Deedra were the highlight of side characters. They really fell in love with one another 😂😂 and I was here for it
Every side character was perfect. Charles & Jason too, The bus driver, buck wild (the only speaking drum major), the drum line guy who was getting crunk before the first show. "Down here it's all about the marching bands dog" then the "boom....boom....😬" face he made when coming out the tunnel for the first show. Him telling Devin "gon rip it dawg" when Sean confronted Devin with sheet music. Him telling Sean "you got some b*tch moves" when Devin walked out. The old senior director over dr Lee. "We win they right checks" face ahh. Mr wade "20 years as my assistant he still haven't learned to put his best players on the field." Or "whewww, still got the paton stuck up yo ass huh?" AJ & free + Petey Pablo cameos. Hell even the announcers talking over the pa during the shows.
This was such a great movie. Something postive. I was in drumline in high school @ paschal high school in Fort Worth texas. Good memories. This movie let me know it was cool to be in drumline and not listen to any haters. Glad I was in drumline. Gave birth to me making music. Much love.
THE KID FROM EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS LOOKS LIKE DR.LEE.
Drew Evans Nigga Dr. Lee WAS on EHC
Raul DeSantiago hi loved movie dumlind
Lol that’s his father
Bro on god I been saying this for a hot minute
@@matthewmoody3607 fasle. I used to think so too. Since theyre both on ehc
I was in elementary school in 2002 when this first came out and it inspired me to be in band. Fast forward in H.S. 2006-2010 I decided to be a color guard in band. We were a HBCU band style but we also did UIL just as great as we did show band. How Dr.Lee was is exactly how my Band director was in H.S. RIH Ronald Thornton🙏🏽😢Mighty Eagle Band Willowridge H.S.
I miss movies like this that use to make you wanna go to college or school inspiring movies they don't make movies like this for the new generation
HTX!!! 🔥🔥🔥 Band!!!
Same. I was a little kid when this came out too. You’re actually a year older than me. I never played band but I related to the movie cause certain scenes reminded me of the intense training regimen I had in martial arts. Or scenes like this where your teacher has to humble you and remind you that you aren’t as good as you think you are. Except in my case, my teacher reminded me by kicking my ass 😅😅😅
I always thought Dr. Lee was the most interesting character in the movie, and that Jones gave the best performance. (Comedians make great actors.)
I remember watching this from a bootleg theater copy in 2002 ... maybe 2003. Makes me get the itch again and I can’t even play an instrument!!! But boy ... this movie still gets me hype (like I can actually do something all these years later - ha!)
One lesson I’ve learned is humility first, skill second, and pride ... harness it and let pride fuel the humility. You can always learn something from everyone.
If you try to outperform someone ... even if you win, you still lose.
The movie was released to theaters on December 13,2002
One band one sound
@c: Methods
Dr. Lee: ONE BAND, ONE SOUND!!!! WHEN ONE OF US IS LATE WE'RE ALL LATE, WHEN ONE OF US LOOKS OR SOUNDS BAD WE ALL LOOK AND SOUND BAD, SO WHAT'S THE CONCEPT?
#reallifeprotips
Now I want 10 laps from all those who are not their roommates mother LMAO
Don't whine
@@shocknationwrestling2012 And while you're joggin around the field let the robust composition of 'the saints come marching in' flow through your mind!!!!
3:44 he was deadass wrong for doing homegirl like that😂😂
Lolz😂🤣😂
He was I didn't like it
Truth.....and I wished she would've kept going and said "but you can never hit my spot"
The "follow before you can lead " scene. Love it. That's what happens when you go up against The Grandmaster lol.
I don’t think anyone understands how powerful this scene is
And how much we learn being in a band like this.
It’s about discipline
One band one sound
I don’t think you understand that no one cares
i don't think anyone realizes how dirty those rolls are
The guy that play Dr.Lee is a great actor. Idk why people don’t notice.
Yeah, he really is.
Always remember this: playing the drums, it's like making love. But you can't be looking down there, seeing what's going on, trying to get the flow right.
lol
It was a great line and I’m laughing because I’ve done that before while smashing
2nd drumline movie was nothing like this. Words of wisdom in this movie taught us all something 💯
This was one of the best movies Nick Cannon did,coming from the hood to Atlanta Ga historic HBCU to play drums was powerful
Im not his mother sir 😀
Man this movie a classic
Our high school band had a saying, "If you're on time, you're late."
I love that!
I think all high school bands had that saying
@@anthonyjohnson83 Or something related to it. 😁
We had one too.. "too be on time is to be late, and to be early is to be on time"
When I first saw this..I was surprised Dr. Lee could play the drums so well. None of my band directors could drum worth shit..they all played horns lol..
Seems like Lee loved music to the point that he knows how to play decently enough on all the instruments
It’s a movie
Both of mine can play everything in the band, one is a trumpet main, and he can somewhat drum, the other is a drum main, and he's probably one of the best drummers I've ever met in my life, he does it professionally
French horn
This made me laugh Lol
Today was my second day of band camp. What I love is we all become a family. You really are gonna look out for your fellow drumline.
Life lessons!!! These quotes has stuck with me since High School, when my marching band went to go see this is the theatre!!!
How could you not like this movie?
if you dont know how to play its cool. once you learn how to play its the most ridiculous movie ever. because you realise the rhythms and all the rudiments they play are the most simplest of them all. and at times they are't even playing so yeah its possible to not like the movie. i mean i used to love it before i started drumming for my school's drumline.
Abraham Perez-Gordillo As a former liner, I'd say they're actually not nearly as bad as you're trying to make them out to be. I still love this movie because at the end of the day, the cadences, however slick, tight, or complex/simple, mean nothing to the overall message - what separates a "percussionist" from a "concussion-ist". Ego has no place on the line, or in the big leagues.
Being a real drummer, in a real drumline
Because it’s terrible
I love this film
instead of drummers pointing out the painful flaws in the movie.
You should appreciate them doing a movie to focus on drum lines. The casual veiwer wont notice these flaws. Remember, they are holding an audience and need some entertainment, to make it sound cool, by possibly over hyping it.
could they have done better? yes. But these are actors not drummers
Mo Overall Fitness Hacks I personally have adopted that mindset when I watch this movie, and I find it more enjoyable that way. However I'm sure we can all agree that Drumline 2 was just a terrible movie.
The music critics do that with Whiplash also. Us casuals don’t know every moving part. If you want exact realism go watch a documentary. These movies create exposure. Brings a few new faces to these arts. Relax
Well spoken
"you know how it is when you hittin that spot right, dont ya girl."
LMFAO
Devin Nelson that nigga talked too much 🥴🤣🤣🤦🏾♀️ like okay? Was that even necessary ?
@@FlyyGirl1000 Yup, cause no matter what he said, the task was to not look down. She let that bs talk get her distracted. Which was the point of him saying that.
30ajgo 👍🏾
@@FlyyGirl1000 👍🧐
30ajgo yea nigga, a thumbs up 👍🏾
Straight classic bruh ..man i feel old lol
U iz old.
@@hattorihanzo6104 ohhh talking like you know me 😂
@@Iamtezwayne I'm sure we around the same age dude lol.
This was a classic to me to ima 90s kid.
The girl with braids in the 🥁 section looking gorgeous. 😬😍🦉
Taumainuumau Pereira she’s fine as hell
@@matthewmoody3607 Indeed brother.
Mike Spector Earnest girlfriend, she is Drop Dead Gorgeous! It’s funny cuz she had a thing for earnest..
@@jordanglasper1064 she still does and he finally asked her out when he graduated into the fraternity of the brother hood of theta nu theta. 😎😊 Then we started dating and got married afterwards. 2 drummers one sound makes beautiful symphony of LOVE. 😂🤣
Yep she's very pretty 😊.
Those guys are really going to be good friends when this practice is done. A year later he will help him in the next generation drumline.
This came out when I was 12. I watched this DVD every night for months on my PlayStation 2... back when gaming was simple pop in a disc a play ...Boom!
God I miss those days 😊. Such nostalgia. I still have my PS2 as well.
True Wisdom passed down from the Master to a student. A student that is naturally advanced but has not the proper direction and experience which can get himself to fail or self destruct.
Yes. We all need to learn that. You have to learn to follow. Before you can lead. This was great. Thanks for sharing. God bless.
I’m not gonna lie the hot comb part was funny
Shit was corny, she had braids... Her joke about his bird chest was more funny.
such a great movie!! having grown up playing snare drum in a drum corps, (DCI-Garfield Cadets, now called, The Cadets '79-'84), this movie reminded me of so many good memories and the important life learning lessons that helped prepare me for life out of high school...this movie does a great job teaching that teamwork, discipline, and attitude are vital to reaching goals...the drum battles in this movie are insanely awesome too! 💯💥✌🥁🎵🎶
This film came out when I was in a cadet corps of drums .
And it stuck with me from the start of my journey through to the end.
That bass though when Devon & Sean looked at each other before their challenge 😂
😆😅
I thought I was the only one who caught that 😆 🤣 😂 😹 me and my sis use to laugh at that part😅
Why hasn’t Orlando Brown gotten bigger roles?? Nick Cannons career took off while Orlando did 7up commercials. Underrated actor.
I met him when he visited Korea, he is a cool guy.
Orlando Jones.
Orlando Brown is totally on some other shit.
And I do mean other shit.
Hahahaha
But yes, orlando jones is truly underrated
Orlando Jones did 7UP commercial before Drumline
Facts!
It really is a shame. I’m such a big fan of his, and especially at this time when things were really happening for him. I can’t imagine how much he got paid by 7up tho. I know he’s still working solid gigs, but I bet it was enough that he didn’t need to work after
i'm 15 and this movie was an inspiration for every percussionist i know thats my age and we reenact the "dont look down" scene all the time. i wonder if anyone else does that
This is one of my favorite movies growing up (one band one sound )
devin had a ego wen Dr. Lee kicked him off the lineup he humbled himself
don't see how he looked like a "jackass". he still schooled one of the drum masters of that staff in front of people. that was the most goonish thing i've seen.
Right
You have to learn to follow before you can lead as did sean.
he was smirking like an ass thinking he was the best. and when dr lee came up he proved that miles still had a lot to learn. as lee and SuperImmunologist said, "you have to learn to follow before you can lead"
I agree. What was he supposed to do? Not try his best in defeating the drummaster that challenged him?
It's not about "schooling" anyone. One band, one sound. Devon's ego won't allow him to work with his team. It doesn't matter how good a drummer he is (or thinks he is) - if he can't work with them, then he's completely useless. Fact of life. If he has no dedication, discipline, or humility to his craft, he can't proceed...on the line, or even in his own life. When Sean tells him to go and "be the man, without the line", Devon doesn't know what to do. Sean and Lee are trying to teach him how to become a better and stronger PERSON. Showing people up has nothing to do with it.
GREAT MOVIE.......:)
MY SISTER BAND IN 2004, EASTERN WAYNE HS, GOLDSBORO NC, WON STATE CHAMPIONS...THEY PLAYED THIS DRUMLINE THEME AT HOMECOMING...THE WHOLE CROWD WENT CRAZY.... :) AWESOME
Hey it's Marcus from Smart Guy!!!
It takes motivation for a marching band to become stronger
Still love that version of "When The Saints Go Marching In" ... That trumpet player had skills
4:49 Oh damn I dropped my stick!... 4:54 Oh wait, no I didn't. lol gotta love movie editing sometimes hahaha
he brings an extra stick
Drummers have multiple sticks just in case that happens.
You would be good at CinemaSins
But there is no stick bag on his drum.
No, Devon picked it up with the force.
Also just want to ask, why would he even use a stick back during practice if you only get one chance? If you drop your stick(s) it's over, pick it up.
Last thing, I was bothered by this movie's success because I was in my high school marching band at the time. Ever since the movie, more emphases and attention was placed on the drum solos. It may take skill to learn to pump your arms with style but it takes the same amount of effort, if not more to control your breathing (I was in the brass section btw).
I watched this movie everyday after middle school 🔥🔥🔥
This is my kind of movie! Drumline isn't just about the "ohhh hit sticks on a hard surface hehe"! It's about the discipline, the dedication, determination, teamwork, and shows that marching is NOT EASY.
Good morning...good morning to music. I love that motivation
It is a flat out joke that 181 people didn't like this movie 🎥 what a masterpiece
Real T.V. 199 people.
When I made the dance team in the band when I was in high school in 2003 I watched this movie every day lol i was too hyped!!
How did he make Sean look bad!? Sean challenge him! Sean couldn't beat the rookie!!! Lol Sean made himself look bad!
Jason Renfro Lee was teaching him because Devon was cocky, cockiness always leads to failure
How does having confidence makes you a failure confidence means you could do anything that you put ya mind into
@@sqcp7379 difference between cocky and confidence. Dr Lee had to show him. No matter how good you think you are theres always someone better
There wasn't anyone better, Sean even said it towards the end. But one man doesn't make a band and that's the point Dr. LEE wanted to illustrate to Devon.
@@Kruppt808 uh did you not see Dr Lee school his ass in this very clip?
I wish they would have allowed me to write PART 2 to this. It would have been lit!!
What would you have written for the sequel?
FU. You can't even write a small thesis statement.
Devon wearing all black in the beginning signifies he's the black sheep I think
I love the way this character teaches us
That one must learn
That in the end we all must learn to follow
In order to be a successful leader
This character teaches us that we are one
Yessssssssssssss
Together we rise
New feel I likeeeee
"If your on time you're late, If you're 5 minutes early you're on time."
2020 and I still watch this scenes.
It doesn´t matter how good you say you are, it doesn´t matter how easy or not the music is in this movie, NEWSFLASH they`re actors, they act, not musicians. The moral of the story is that in a group, of anykind, band, work, school, anything, you have to be able to sacrifice the needs of the individual for the needs and common good of the group.
+Abel Miranda while your point about the moral may be (and is) valid, your little newsflash that these are actors and not actual musicians, a fact that I doubt a single person here was unaware of, just make you look like a pretentious jackass
+FerretJohn The fact that I don't even remember why I said such further supports whether or not I should question you're reasoning as to why you responded...because honestly i could care less lol
+Abel Miranda So you care then?
Drumline is very amazing in the marching band
Was he supposed to drop his sticks on purpose in order for him not to look like a jackass?
Yes lmao
It was the smile after that was the problem... dr Lee was addressing an attitude of showing up the section leaders... while you may not need them there is 40 other people who do need them to get betterand you making them lose respect
@@MrSugardove welll said this help me with my Ego an pride that I am gifted. 🤝🙏
One of my fave movie of all time!
even though this band is a show band, it still revolves around the same theme that every school faces. we all get criticized by our students, we all get told we need "new" songs, and finally we are asked why we arent as good as another school's band. Instead of focusing on just stand tunes and entertainment, this movie portrays just how important the marching show is. Dr. Lee said so himself that he looks forward to educate before getting to entertain. show bands are ok, but i prefer DCI style.
As a drumcore brat, I really loved this movie
Still love this movie
This made me want to attend an HBCU and ..... I DID👏🏾 just remembered Jason weaver the GOAT 90s love
Shawn made himself look like a jackass. It took the dr to set him straight.
" Every student can sometimes out smart the master. "
Ramon Martinez
Lord Defector had more to do with the smirk afterwards.
stormreaper7 than Shawn was being the biggest jackass. Showing up other drummers and tryin to relate this shit to sex lol
@@keithlee4963 dude it’s an analogy, and he was right you can’t look down. Not for your dot or at your drum because when your wearing a shack or something similar it’s clear as day that you suck.
He didn't fuck with him then walked away, he taught him a valuable lesson to help him reach a new level.
Thats a leader.
As a guy I wouldn’t want to be looking at homeboy while thinking about ‘making love and handling my business’ 😂😂3:22
This movie was my childhood
What if devon beat the 2nd challenge lol
Hahahaha yo I was just thinking that. What would they say then?
It's Devin not Devon
TheWorlds Greatest They would've jumped him. 😂😂😂
You’re missing the whole point bruh. You are young so Dr. Lee’s methods of coaching Devin might seem antagonist or mean spirited but it’s obvious he recognized a great talent. He was trying to make Devin fail to humble him and check his cocky and near primal Donna behavior. Once Devin humbled himself, he became the SuperStar of the drumline.
Copper Brass R/WHOOOOOSH
man watching this now makes me miss being in band. played percussion. band camp was fun, honestly, getting up early was usually the best part of the day to be out because it started getting hot. 3 days of my first week of band camp it was 98-100 degrees out, honestly wanted to give in but never did, the pay off is always worth it
ONE BAND!!! ONE SOUND!!!
I remember that day when Atlanta a&t won the bet southern classic in a drum battle. 🤘
This movie has such a hard-on for itself.
Such an underrated movie
LISTEN TO THIS VERY WISE WORDS!!! ESPECIALLY FOR WORK!!!
💯💯
“Now I want 10 laps from all those who are not their roommates mama” classic 😂😂
ONE BAND, ONE SOUND
When one of us is late, WE'RE ALL LATE!
When one of us looks or sounds bad, WE ALL LOOK AND SOUND BAD!
I definitely agree what Dr. Lee is saying
My childhood dawg 💯
Everybody says this movies wack and this and that but this movie is really great. The music alone. Yes I fast forward through the love interest parts cause that was a very weak component to the movie, but the fights between him and Shawn, the troubles of the Doc, the situations with his roommates etc, that was really the meat of the movie. The lessons through music, and the band... if you can taste it you get it.
People seem to forget that both Sean and Devon are polar opposites of one another.
Devon's a cocky little shit, I don't think people quite get that. Sean too had an attitude problem but of a different sort. Both Devon and Sean thought that they were the best. In Devon's case, it's because he was sought after by Doctor Lee and eventually become a P1 which was unheard of for a freshman. Devon figured that everyone would bow to his superior skill within the band; however, it's like Sean pointed out later on: "When you're out there, they don't hear YOU. They hear the BAND." Through this, and Sean's own development, Devon becomes less cocky and learns how to be part of the team. In fact, you see it during the finals of the contest as Morris Brown's drummer starts tapping on Devon's drum and Devon barely reacts (clinching his sticks aside) compared to earlier when Devon provoked a fight on the football field when he started tapping on someone else's drum.
Sean's problem came from the fact that his ego was inflated due to his position within the group as a section leader. Sean believed that he was the best of the best and then here comes some little freshman who has a consistent attitude problem and is admittedly very talented. But Sean's problem comes from his authority as a section leader. Given that becoming a section leader takes a lot of dedication and work, it's easy to see how Sean could forget that he was once where the freshmen were. In fact, Doctor Lee even called out Sean during a private conversation where he asserted that Sean felt intimidated by Devon's abilities as a drummer instead of trying to help Devon where he needed it. Sean eventually learns to become more relaxed in his approach and actually mentors Devon and shows Devon the value of learning how to read music.
All of this is very well said.
In this particular scene, Devon felt like he proved something after beating Sean in the drum challenge, which Dr Lee noticed.
Dr Lee exposed Devon's lack of technical skills, in order to humble him. Sean, as section leader, likely has all of necessary technical skills as well
I still dont get Dr Lee, sean wanted devon miles to play as fast and accurately as he could widdout looking down, and dats exactly what he did...what in the heck was Dr Lee pissed off about?
He wasn't pissed, he was doing his job. Devon had to learn (along with reading music) that leadership had to be earned and to blend his talent with the rest of the band instead of individually........
@@davydmx And what does that have to do with the challenge specifically? Should he have failed on purpose? Just because he had a smug look doesn't mean much of anything. That's his persona throughout the damn film, even during the final battle.
Joshua Jardel Allotey it’s because Dr. Lee could sense Devons arrogance from beating Sean. It wasn’t so much that he beat him, but the way Devon beat Sean. It was that arrogance dr. Lee had a drive out of Devon. But what Dr. Lee fail to recognize was the arrogance within his own top student, Sean.
Jordan Glasper yeah Sean was also cocky
Jordan Glasper facts. you speaketh the truth.
For all you non-drumliners, that's really easy to play and I'm surprised those two would mess up when they did, in college. I can do that in high school.
Still watching this in 2019
"this movie was painful for real drummers to watch"
Real drummers would know that not all bands are corps style, and that HBCU drumlines are an entirely different style.
Even non corps style bands aren’t as fucking dirty and sloppy as this. High school drumlines are cleaner than this and this is supposed to be a college drumline
Man, they run that drum line like a boot camp. The push ups, the running, the drills. Just like going into the Marine Corps. Only difference is they're on a college campus playing music instead of heading out to some village to kill enemy combatants.
Jonathan Akerele because it is supposed to be ran like that, it is taken very seriously
Not enough yelling