to be honest it really depends on the depth, if the depth is higher it might have found the winning move, and sometimes when there is mate in 1, if the engine depth is really low (like 1), then it wont see mate in 1
I wonder is it possible to have a series of multiple "blunders" (according to the engine) which is actually the best variation ? I feel like it would be way harder to find than a series of brilliant moves... like how hard is ig to find a position were you need to "blunder" three times (not forcibly in a row) to win ?
Once again made my day with an amazing puzzle 1. you make the engine look like a complete illusion 2. you somehow win with bishop vs queen 3. it really shows how humans>engines in understanding things like zugzwang 4. I got better at solving these things, but I missed out on the zugzwang bh6 however regardless a brilliant puzzle as always.
@@nikolaypanov8159 the position is definitely possible since to move the pawns like that you only need to take 5 pieces so black could’ve lost 4 minors and a rook to pawns that just so happened to end up like that. It is however pretty unrealistic but realism in a puzzle with this kind of zugswang is kinda hard to ask for.
The most briliiant move is not a move that Stockfish Considered a Brilliant Move..... But a Winning Move that Even Stockfish didn't even consider for being a Good Move
I love the content but I'm astonished that engines have trouble with this. I spotted c4+ -> Bc7+ / Bf6# right away. The deeper line Bh6 wasn't hard to spot and the only move that I hesitated on was the temporizing h4 but again not hard to find... there's kind of a mutual zugzwang building as this puzzle develops and and everything you do it simplifies the number of possible moves.
You found this because you analyzed the position like a human, when stockfish decided that c4+ was bad it didn't keep trying to make it work like a human would do
@@filippocamana3472 I appreciate your opinion but having written chess algorithms, there just aren't that many possibilities to prune. This is easily brute-forced.
I think it thinks it's a mistake is because it imagines playing this against a super GM or itself and thinks, if I do this, my opponent can do this and this, but doesn't realize that moves results in this and that, or stockfish is high on weed on this one
I absolutely love the idea of them. Though there is one thing that's always confused me. If Zugzwang exists and the opponent doesn't have the option of passing their turn, and thus MUST make a move even if it's ultimately a bad one...then why does Stalemate result in a draw instead of a win? If the same logic applied, then the ruling would be that no matter where the enemy King moves, it would be captured next turn, and thus that player wins. But instead it's counted as a draw, presumably on the assumption that the opponent pulls a Sans and just refuses to end their turn. Why the discrepancy? Is it to add to the tactical nature of the game, allowing players to force draws from what would otherwise be a losing position? That's about all I can think of that makes sense.
Before you tell the solution at least tell us whose turn it is to make the move, in videos that you don't it becomes a forced move where I have to analyze both for black and white before I listen to your solution.
People: Check stockfish's analysis
Stockfish: Checks cjx's analysis
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@Parth Dharmani To which stockfish would reply: “Winning?! I thought this was a draw.”
Good one ahhaa
to be honest it really depends on the depth, if the depth is higher it might have found the winning move, and sometimes when there is mate in 1, if the engine depth is really low (like 1), then it wont see mate in 1
Stockfish is a strong engine and is always right. However, this is all just an illusion
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as cjx can play the brilliant move
c4 is mistake,bishop to f6 is brillant
I wonder is it possible to have a series of multiple "blunders" (according to the engine) which is actually the best variation ?
I feel like it would be way harder to find than a series of brilliant moves...
like how hard is ig to find a position were you need to "blunder" three times (not forcibly in a row) to win ?
just love when the Eval bar just shoots to other side
Once again made my day with an amazing puzzle
1. you make the engine look like a complete illusion
2. you somehow win with bishop vs queen
3. it really shows how humans>engines in understanding things like zugzwang
4. I got better at solving these things, but I missed out on the zugzwang bh6 however regardless a brilliant puzzle as always.
cjxchess17 is probably strongest chess engine
The newest stockfish find it in less than 5 seconds. Interesting position nonetheless
PS the Crystal engine found it under 2 seconds lol
Present newest stockfish rating may be 3600 above, it find easily
how am I supposed to believe that white's pawn captured 4 peices to go from f2 to b6
that's a good question actually, whether this position is even reachable.
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Good question
@@nikolaypanov8159 the position is definitely possible since to move the pawns like that you only need to take 5 pieces so black could’ve lost 4 minors and a rook to pawns that just so happened to end up like that. It is however pretty unrealistic but realism in a puzzle with this kind of zugswang is kinda hard to ask for.
@@thundermill7109 yeah, i phrased it badly, realistic is what I mean
*Even Stockfish falled for cjxchess17's almighty illusion.*
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*This is the real reason why people hate stockfish cheaters.*
I want to see the game where the f2 pawn captures his way all the way over to the b file.
That was my first thought too. Not only did the pawn capture every move it made, it didn't capture black's b, c, or e pawn.
next engine thinks the winning move is a missed win
The most briliiant move is not a move that Stockfish Considered a Brilliant Move..... But a Winning Move that Even Stockfish didn't even consider for being a Good Move
White is in winning position
Engines on 2001 for this move: Brilliant.
Engines 20 years kater: Mistake.
Composer note: You can just expand this with the King on d4, white can play f3 check King d5 f4 check King d4 and continues
I suppose you mean c3+ and c4+? Great puzzle btw
@@aeolusfowl4734 Thanks, I really did mean it lol
I love the content but I'm astonished that engines have trouble with this. I spotted c4+ -> Bc7+ / Bf6# right away. The deeper line Bh6 wasn't hard to spot and the only move that I hesitated on was the temporizing h4 but again not hard to find... there's kind of a mutual zugzwang building as this puzzle develops and and everything you do it simplifies the number of possible moves.
You found this because you analyzed the position like a human, when stockfish decided that c4+ was bad it didn't keep trying to make it work like a human would do
@@filippocamana3472 I appreciate your opinion but having written chess algorithms, there just aren't that many possibilities to prune.
This is easily brute-forced.
Yeah, only 18 possible moves to start
how did you just doing these puzzles man
Helpers
Wow this puzzle is crazy, congrats
lol. thought about c4 for start just from the preview but didnt really see everything that goes after
At 2:35 you could move E6-E5 and sacrifice pawn
Bg7 or if you are referring to white the e-pawn is pinned.
does that make it a higher tier move than 'brilliant'
Yes the "unthinkable" move ❕❕
The pawn grabber after seeing this" my day is ruined n my pain is immeasurable" 😂😂
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therefore,
best+best
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Can you please tell us, before the solution, what's the goal of the puzzle - white to win, draw, something else?
That's fo you to figure it out, but most of the time I say draw or win
Engine: That's a mistake.
*White moves a bishop after that*
Engine: Oh, now I see. White is winning.
i think the computer has a blindspot for waiting moves which was made by the bishop
In the end it says "one player was winning but then gave it away
Wonderful puzzle! As always :3
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I think it thinks it's a mistake is because it imagines playing this against a super GM or itself and thinks, if I do this, my opponent can do this and this, but doesn't realize that moves results in this and that, or stockfish is high on weed on this one
Yo a heart thx :D
If I was with a bishop against a queen, I would have resigned long before.
when you find that a winning move is a mistake, put in sf 14 at depth 69
I have changed my schedule to wake up at 5 am for this i love it
For me it’s 5 pm lol
Nice vedio
@@SrikanthChess ?
for me 11 pm
@@ParkedCar. this guy lol, he's been replying every single comment in this video with a stupid silly emoji or by nonsense lmao
I analyzed the game with Stockfish 14. According to engine, c4 is a very very good move.
You engine is strong tho
stockfish 14 knows the solution in 5 seconds.
bishops are now better than queens
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I have one where the engine walks into mate in 2
Man the engine is genius 🤣🤣
Surprisingly I found the answer from start to finish!
Nice!
Stop hating on stockfish guys. It’s only stockfish 12 on depth 18
This is amazing.
I've watched too many chess endgame studies, are these all based on real games?
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No, most are composed
idk
Not this one at least, he said it in the start, this was made by one of his fans
As I said, Stockfish is clearly smoking weed
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Do a video where a chess cheater and a winning move is mistake
video begins at 0:20
Zugzwangs are so satisfying...
I absolutely love the idea of them. Though there is one thing that's always confused me. If Zugzwang exists and the opponent doesn't have the option of passing their turn, and thus MUST make a move even if it's ultimately a bad one...then why does Stalemate result in a draw instead of a win? If the same logic applied, then the ruling would be that no matter where the enemy King moves, it would be captured next turn, and thus that player wins. But instead it's counted as a draw, presumably on the assumption that the opponent pulls a Sans and just refuses to end their turn. Why the discrepancy? Is it to add to the tactical nature of the game, allowing players to force draws from what would otherwise be a losing position? That's about all I can think of that makes sense.
okay cool
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Before you tell the solution at least tell us whose turn it is to make the move, in videos that you don't it becomes a forced move where I have to analyze both for black and white before I listen to your solution.
Lol
Wow vedio
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Wow