A History of the Afterlife
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- The ideas about the afterlife in heaven and hell are deeply ingrained in modern, popular culture, based on Christian doctrines and imagery from antiquity through the Middle Ages to the present. However, this concept of the afterlife is almost entirely absent from the Old Testament. In making his covenant with Abraham, God does not promise eternal life in heaven. Rather, Abraham is blessed with prosperity, long life, and a vast posterity. In this lecture, John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place briefly traces the development of our modern ideas about afterlife from its pagan origins to the present.
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Once again, another excellent, well-researched lecture.
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*@markgiles3* I came across Centre Place maybe 5 or 6 months ago and have probably watched about half of the posted videos.
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I spent the last week institutionalized in a psych ward. Today I am listening to you, and I was afraid I would never hear your voice again. Thank you for what you do.
Thank you all.
Glad you are okay. What happened?
@@gnosis555 It's a long story.
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Best wishes to you
I never thought I’d hear John use the term “narc” in one of his lectures. These just keep getting better. Keep up the great work!
That's what makes his lectures so much fun! I love it!
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Thank you for recommending "The Good Place". Also for putting words to my thoughts e.g. universalism. The sound was great!
This is excellent, well explained and good research. What an eye opener! Super John, thanks for these wonderful presentations!
Excellent insight thank you so much❤
John, I don’t know if you’ll ever see this, but thank you so much for your work. Another wonderful lecture, and your own views on the afterlife make a great deal of sense. I don’t agree with your politics, but I only say that to show you that you have yourself a very diverse set of fans :)
This lecture has an appropriate amount of Simpsons references. Nicely done :)
Thank you John.😊
John, you are great, thanks again
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It would be of great value to include this history in the current dialogue of today’s global politics. You are spot on, and history is misrepresented either knowingly or unknowingly in oder to push agenda’s
Loved all the cultural references. I think one was left out (from Monte Python): After-life mints!
Wow! That was really good!!! Thank you!
Thank you John. So very interesting. No questions
A lot to wrap around our heads. Interesting subject as do many viewpoints. Blessings and have a great week. Sun. Service was very informative and inspiring. Thank you to everyone.
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Such great information in these lectures. Thank you so much.
Très intéressant , Gracias 😉
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The highest heaven is the realm of pure thought where God conceived of a plan to embody and test the thoughts he had created thus far - his first family.
So is it safe to say that the belief of early Christians was the Resurrection?
For many of them.
Some didn't. Check out the lecture on Lost Christianities.
And look into the Ebionites
@langreeves6419 thanks for the response
Clearly, it seems that the israelites believed that when people died that they went to sleep or to be with the ancestors. Later beliefs seem to have been picked up in captivity. So, my question is, why don't Christians believe the early belief of death of the Israelites versus things picked up from Persians and babylonians?
What is meaningful and useful gets kept. The Jews adopted many ideas in exile that were meaningful and useful. Some ideas of earlier hebrews no longer worked well. John (and others) has lectures about the evolution of both Judaism and Christianity.
@@langreeves6419 Thank you for your response.
We believe what Jesus taught us.
Because by the time Jesus was alive, those Babylonian thoughts had already been incorporated into Judaism, which then broke off into Christianity.
Why is it a view among some scholars that pre-exilic Israelites had no concept of Afterlife at all and claim that "Bosom of Abraham" literally meant "grave" in pre-exilic texts? I found this view rather fascinating during my university years, when I was doing a thesis in Evolutionary Psychology which involved beliefs about the afterlife. This view (and what I so far read about the Piraha) struck me as highly improbable, because belief in excocorporeal survival is a bias inherent to the very nature of human consciousness (complex abstract cognition), so much that it is found in young toddlers never exposed to religion, and is heavily (both shaped and reinforced) by language, when we say confusing things like "my brain" or "my body". This is, of course, on top of the obvious fact that human brains is unable to comprehend "nothingness" or experience "non-existence" which leads to all sorts of speculations.
We think and say "my body" because we know we are not that body, which we just temporarily inhabit.
@@tedwalford7615 That's a more recent evolution of the human psychology
Great lecture. Thank you John 🙏❤️
Outstanding topic!!
I really love these lectures, but I must point out that the near-death experience phenomenon referenced at 1:48:00 is well established, and by many academic types to boot. Perhaps some research is in order here. IANDS is a good place to start.
John.
I appreciate immensely your lecture series. This one in particular struck me to the core. Unfortunately, not in a positive way. I had grown up in an evangelical environment and taught the promise of heaven and the goal of salvation through Jesus Christ was to meet that
This lecture has given me immense pause and a little bit of depression if I’m being honest. I have OCD of the existential variety and I’m searching to reunite or reengage my faith after a long absence and thus I’m looking for information to build a foundation on.
I know that was not the intent of this lecture, but I still can’t seem to shake the Potential thought that all of this is very meaningless and that annihilation of my self (consciousness) would be the end result.
For those folks that believe in prayer, keep me in because this has been a very difficult season of my life.
Different cultures alternately buried or burned bodies, depending on whether they thought they were awaiting a messiah to raise the dead incorruptible or already in a post-messiah period of spiritual rising. Both recall patterns of previous major and minor incarnations of the Messiah, before or after humanity became the final chosen species.
I can dig it
Thanks!
Thanks!❤
It's pretty amazing that so many people believe in an afterlife.
Great stuff to know!
Can grave goods aid us in understanding what the ancients thought of the afterlife?
Seems highly likely.
John are you fighting a cold? Be well
🎉 hello Pastor Hovind, your bible teaching tonight is great. I was just praying today. Asking God to come and Rest upon the hearts of my pagan neighbors! They really need to get Saved by the Blood Of Jesus. ! Could you join with me in prayer. Mark & myself are being treated very badly by these people. They can not have our house. They stole my 1994 classic 1500 Chevy pick-up truck. God got it back🤓. They rob our house when we go do errands. This is very Sad, for they. We are praying for a house, better location. Mark is ambute at the knees. They don't understand about the how difficult this life really is. They play at the taking of Lives. Something is really wrong in their mind. We live Peaceafull. No troubles with others. Please pray for my neighbors, that they will hear GOD'S Voice. Mark & myself are in the process of looking for a new church home. If you have any helps, please let us know.
Very Interesting .. Merci
Lastly, is not believing in heaven or hell wrong? I base this question on the progression that we see in the bible and history.
Believing in hell is wrong
Fascinating.
A consistent takeaway from these lectures is that we constantly underestimate just HOW zoroastrianist we all are
Referencing the Bible for absolute spiritual truths is like trying to repair a 2023 Corvette with a 1954 Corvette manual. Creation evolves. God evolved. Day 6 didn't deliver perfection. In fact, God's senior children were so disappointed with the results of day 6, they forced God himself to take the bitter pill of reincarnation amnesia, trying to wake up to full consciousness as the fully awakened Messiah before getting his driver's license back.
A real transporter would replicate the soul vehicle and transmigrate the original oversoul and to the new vehicle. A clone NPC soul would be pulled from the "source" to fill any vehicle left without a driver in a particular universe - a snapshot of the original, but without all it's experience and karma. It will look and act like the original, but run almost completely on programming till it faces a situation it's not programmed for. Most humans you meet these days are NPC's in most dimensions. That's why people can come back so changed from NDE's and highly charged altered state experiences - because they are not the original person - who has really "died" and transmigrated to an afterlife - but an NPC clone programmed to fulfill the remaining "to do" list of the original soul, so as not to upset the experiments of more conscious souls carelessly.
Why do we as Christians reject outside influences of belief systems to our text (Bible) that govern our faith?
Well, this lecture points out that most of our ideas of heaven and hell do not come from the bible but come from outside sources
Christianity has always been open to outside influences
That's how a jewish sect ended up with so much greek philosophy and platonism
@langreeves6419 I agree, but Christianity and most Christians, or should I say Christian orthodoxy, do not admit to the outside influences. We are taught that the Bible is the inspired word of God and to make the admission would be to question the inspiration of scripture, or am I totally wrong to see it that way?
@@josephdonald1765modern Christianity is a bastardization of paganism and the Roman Catholic church. Any Christian who believed differently than the church was executed in the inquisition as well as most of the history of the world confiscated by the church. Contrary to what this man states in his lecture Daniels prophecies were correct. They predicted Christ’s birth, when the gospel would go to the gentiles instead of the Jews and was spot on about Rome and even recently when the UN created their 10 kingdoms Aka economic zones. But “scholars” have too much ego to humble themselves and learn something. If this professor had an open mind instead of a condemning one he might have learnt from Ezekiel that when given prophecy 1 day = 1 year and biblical calendar is different than our current pope created and forced calendar he changed the times and laws. (Another prophecy fulfilled see revelation) this wasn’t an afterlife history video this was just a Christian hit piece
yes youre correct to an extent. There were plenty of "ideas", that crept into judaism and christianity. You must remember that the both of them were not totally consumed by the nonsense of greek/pagan influence. Youre trying to denounce the two, and claim that theyre false, based upon a few silly ideas that gained momentum in the 1st 2nd and 3rd century. One must CAREFULLY READ, INTERPRET, AND STUDY THE SCRIPTURES, to get a grasp on what we believers call "man made false doctrine", and what we believe to be "divine revelation thru the prophets, apostles, and son of god". And yes, there are tons of man made doctrines in the bible, but that does not make the bible as a whole, a counterfeit. Thats why paul tells timothy to study, study, study....to separate the good from the bad
You seem to be a little rusty on the bible and theology. A careful study of the bible would reveal that yes, there is greek and plato, and even many more influences that crept in. That however does not render the bible as a whole, a complete fraud. God is still sovereign, the deity of christ is still authentic, even if some "ideas" of men and not god were inserted...after herods temple was destroyed in 70 a.d. that allowed for the true gospel to be a bit "diluted", so do we trash the gospel as a result? By no means. Jews had no temple, and christianity was still gaining momentum. Jew or gentile had no place to worship, the hebrews had all but vanished, christianity was outlawed until constantine made it legal in 325 a.d....so come on people...dont ya think SOME kinda ridiculous ideas and nonsense might creep in? God is still god...satan is still a real spirit, under the control of god, and jesus really was performing miracles around the sea of galilee in the first century...get educated. Read your bible...god is real. The rider on the white horse, whos name is faithful and true...is coming back before 2035...the world is a mess...logic and common sense no longer exist....men think theyre women and women think theyre men...and everybody is lost in the matrix staring and their phone....god bless...get right with the lord...hes coming
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Eastern Orthodox is complicated too…
The heavenly cat with tire tracks. 🤣
" That men cannot do without the absurd idea of an afterlife is a peculiar mania of mankind ". The Masquis de Sade
One has to wonder about a species whose spirituality has devolved from pantheism to militant defenders of nihilism, oneness, duality, and trinity.
I think we'll keep changing our ideas as we learn and study more.
When a spiritual idea no longer is meaningful or useful for people, it falls out of use
Another idea takes its place or the original idea gets modified
@langreeves6419 beware utilitarian spirituality. You may find ideas you threw out were there for a reason. That's why we can't ever craft religions with no fear of apocalypse. Blind mice wearing rose colored glasses can lead many lemmings into loving cliff jumping games
@@langreeves6419 except that the most truthful idea was already thrown out, dualistic polytheism. Humans are not the brightest soul vehicle in the multiverse
After his degeneration into a demon, Ba'al ruled the people Gehenna (near modern-day Jerusalem, Israel), circa 13,000 BCE. Gehenna was a place of evil, human sacrifice and cannibalism, where the refuse of humanity was buried and burned.
Shoel is the grave. The realm of the dead.
So. The concepts for life after death has eloped over time much like religious text.
The power of the pen.
I think it is important to point out that some things are inferd by God. For example Abraham AND his seed are promised the land and so Abraham must be raised to receive it. Just as when he goes to sacrifice his son he said that he and the boy (his son) would return, this is because Abraham had faith that Isaac would live because his grandchildren would inherit the land through Isaac. This is part of what shows that the earth is to be part of God's heaven.( The earth shall be filled with the glory of God, thy will be done on earth as in heaven, etc.) This and much more is all through the Bible/Tora from beginning to end if you look diligently (from the seed of the women & his victory & return, to the existence of Israel today along with current events.) (Elpis Israel, by John Thomas)
If you realize that time really does not exist and that the past and future exist all at once, it makes it easier to understand a lot of things.
ASKiNG 😗🖤🌎
I have 1 real question, what happens when you are no longer, and find out that at the last moments of your life, you were horribly wrong what can you do at that moment?
Ask Steven Hawkins he's there from what I hear, they are nailing something like railroad spikes through his skull. Not my words but others like me, that have seen him there. I've only seen Tupac fall into hell.
I rejected Christianity in my early 20s. There may be singular Divinity, but there is no heaven or hell. Christianity never fixed my psychological issues. We must work out our true sanity ourselves through work and introspection. Praying for cures is nonsense. Yet we must all decide for ourselves.
@@kirstinstrand629250% chance you're correct.🤔
Call out to God!
Infinite nothingness? Why would it matter?
It actually fits within evolution... As long as people where living in small, family-like tribes... belief and believe-systems could be heritage to both male of female younger people, who could change these believes as was necessary to allow the group to survive. As soon as tribes start gathering together, they must merge these believes to stay together, or leave, when their believe systems are not compatible, they become an actual problem, When early family-groups become larger then 250-500 people. They usually splitt... one group stayed, one (or more) group(s) migrated, hence the rapid migration of people around the world. Another border is reached, when groups live together intensivly, that's when larger villages and cities are funded. A lot of struggle and war, small, but important for our current understanding of how our "human" world has developed. Even today, when religion is one option, many tend to hold on to this old philosophy, no matter science, and better knowledge about our world and what is happening around us.
I have wondered why Europens would follow an Asain religion?
It was Greece and Rome that merged all religions and mythology to create a one world religion, so they thought.
Christianity is as Latin and Greek as it is Judaic.
@AJWRAJWR Catholic is Latin. So, yes,.Catholic and Greek
Reason, I guess, is the Mediterranean Sea Trade.
This is very well researched and the presenter is highly knowledgeable about it.
What I dislike is that too much of it is about the Christian beliefs of Hell. I found this video really boring because of all the bible names that mean nothing to me and don't advance more depth of the subject.
I didn't catch any significant references to Dante's "Divine Comedy", Limbo and the levels of the Inferno or other cultures. Are there any new ideas about the After Life? What about the Egyptians, Mormons and New Age people? That would add balance and be more interesting to me.
If everyones understanding about cosmology, (200+ passages describing it in his word) the place made for us by the father was wrong, why did he not mention it when he was here?
Why are there so many contradictions in the Bible and yet people insist on simply having a biblical view?
Why did Jesus say he and the repentant criminal would be together that day in Paradise and the early Christians (eg the Apostles’ Creed) believed he descended to Sheol or Hades or some type of Hell or purgatory-like pre-Hell before resurrecting?
it’s a security blanket for adults
Have you seen on youtube "Ceaser the Messiah"?
Beetlejuice is the lake of 🔥 I believe that's why it's close and active at this time.
The Jewish concept of HaOlam HaBa is interesting.
Gehenna is where the grabage was burned and the fire burned continuously.
I'm surprised at how many people believe such weird things. Flat earth? People turn into angels? None of these things make sense and I wonder how those ideas originated.
Hi and thanks. In Genesis the creator told Adam if he eats from the tree, he shall surely die. Is god a liar. God gave thos word and his word is Law and cannot be taken back. God said you shall surely die and they did eat and died eventuslly. All are destined to die once, then a resurrection. I am Greek and the pveuma/spirit goes out in that day thoughts perish ecclesiastes 9, 5,6 shows the dead are dead, they do not feel or think, since the spirit breath of God has gone out back to God/universe. Joh 5, 28,29 says there is a resurrection of evil and just persons. The wages of sin is death. Adam and Eve obeyed the serpent and he is now their God from the beginning the 2 were changed from good to knowing good and evil and death is master over them. They are now sinners and must die, not go to heaven as this realm is for spirits.
Okay smarty pants how was Jesus resurrected……smeh!
Our bodies are a soft machine covered by flesh, the Lord sas, my ways are not your ways I believe is because we will be like a computer with a spirit, and freewill, self aware if you will.. our Father could be a quantum computer being with a soul and spirit and freewill who created us. 🤔 are we here as a test? To see if we do evil or good in our freewill? Just a thought.
We are carbon based biological beings that carry a soul. God grows and learns through all of our lives and emotions, just as a parent does with its children
Thank you John. Excellent 💯
Sheol is the entity I like to call BORG - the hive mind God created as a controlled opposition adversary - the entity that generates NPC level souls - low consciousness AI's that fill all the roles no more conscious soul chose to play as their incarnation avatar. The New Age numpty dumpties who worship cosmic oneness, source, are actually embracing being perennial NPC's - sidekicks or furniture or beatable beasts and bosses matched to budding messiahs as the challenges they must master to earn their own godhood (or sainthood or angelhood, if you prefer)
what are you smoking
@@CeezGeez ah, the standard attack of an NPC soul. Happy Karma!
@@theomnisthour6400 if you say so buddy
How do we know they are NPCs -- lack of spirituality, going along with authority, no passions, needlessly violent, etc.?
You sound ticked off…..
Can you imagine the ego you have to have to think you have an immortal soul. you can communicate directly with an all powerful god, and he (you know he's a "he") put you here so that you are going to be alive at the end of the World when he destroys everything and appears to you as a human? Yeah, Paul, roll another one.
Sheol is probably where they threw the bodies of the vanquished.
People have always wanted an afterlife. How about just live life as well as you can.
Well.....why not both?
They're not mutually exclusive.
What makes life good are the people in it. What makes life bad is losing people. It's still horrible when someone dies, but thinking we will all be reunited later does make it more possible to continue living and trying to enjoy living after someone dies.
@@langreeves6419 I guess I don't have it in me to live in fantasy.
@@MarkJones-fw3mo are you implying the afterlife is a fantasy?
Modern science does Not Know the source and origin of Life.
Therefore, secular scientists cannot disprove the existence of an Afterlife, after the mortal decay of the materialistic physical body.
@@MarkJones-fw3mo neither do i...
Most people dont
@@langreeves6419 tell that to the 4 billion people who follow religions that promise it
So much confusion and uncertainty! Pure, explicit truth may have once been within the Biblical tradition, but it now seems hidden. - I suggest rather the very clear, explicit, and complete explanations of who we are, who is God, what is our relationship, and what happens after death as found in the translations and commentaries by A.C. Bhaktivedanta of ancient Vedic scriptures Bhagavad-gita As It Is, and Srimad-Bhagavatam.
A friend of a friend of mine had a cousin who met a man who’d been pronounced legally dead- TWICE! - and on the second time he’d spent two days lying in wake before he resurrected before the assembled mourners. Anyway, when asked what it was like on the other side he always said mankind wasn’t ready for the truth and remains tight lipped to this day.
Of course, believers and non-believers alike might say this particular fellow should come clean if he’s got something to share or not mention it at all.
I, myself, find it preposterous that science hasn’t, as yet, come up with a better answer than the clergy or any of the fans of the other religions by now.
It’s high time the religious leaders and scientists got their finger out and earned their keep.
Is it, though?
“A friend of a friend of mine had a cousin”, are you serious right now? You have to be trolling right? Have you considered writing a gospel, lol?
@@Waxican Yes, I was, in the modern idiom, ‘trolling’ and I should stop.
I start off going with a wobbly grasp of a misunderstood premise and then needlessly extend the post with yet more stupidity.
I am going to stop it though as unless I put a 😂 or say ‘it’s satire’ then I just have replies from people who think it’s a serious comment.
As far as writing something goes I’m thinking of using AI softwares; video maker, comic generator to some satirical end.
Thank you for your reply.
I believe I have lived forever and will continue to live forever; just not in this vehicle my spirit (energy) currently inhabits.
2021 marks the 50-year anniversary of the original publication of Skinner’s book Beyond Freedom and Dignity (BFD). Celebrating this anniversary, today we switch to publishing quotes from BFD for the next several weeks. (We resume quoting from Cumulative Record after completing our quotes from BFD.)
Beyond Freedom and Dignity is probably Skinner’s most well-known title. According to the author, the book stayed on the New York Times best-seller list for 20 weeks, and he became “for the moment an embarrassed VIP.” As Skinner also wrote in a new preface to the book in 1988, the reviews were mixed but, as Skinner pointed out, few questioned the importance of the problems discussed in the book. He started by describing some “terrifying problems” facing the world today, such as the population explosion, nuclear holocaust, world famine, problems of the ghettos, and pollution of the environment. In short, Skinner argued that “almost all our major problems involve human behavior, and they cannot be solved by physical and biological technology alone. What is needed is a technology of behavior, . . .” (p. 24). In BFD, Skinner explained how the traditional conceptions of ‘freedom,’ ‘dignity,’ and ‘values’ have stood in the way of an effective science of human behavior and its applications to improve human lives.
Originally, Skinner had called the book just Freedom and Dignity. However, the Knopf editor claimed that following Skinner’s treatment of the traditional concepts, there was not much left of either of them. Skinner himself then suggested putting “Beyond” in front of his original title, but later realized that it was misleading: “As a scientist, I did not think of people as free initiating agents to be credited with their achievements, but I was proposing changes in social practices which should make them feel freer than ever before and accomplish more” (From A Matter of Consequences, pp. 310-311).
We hope that you will enjoy the quotations from Beyond Freedom and Dignity.
Hell? It's on earth! Not afterward
Why would God create a hellish earth, to put so much effort in a psychics filled world and universe and the incredible biology of life to create hell?
I've read a lot of Taoist writings. I've never seen any mention of the afterlife. They actually mock Buddhists for that belief.
as to Star Trek, Roddenberry invented the "beaming" people idea because he lacked the budget for filming (practical-effects) landing craft --
In initial filming, the cast did not understand the concept, & stayed in-character after the "Beam us down !" line~~~
( any fan of the original Star Trek will also like the sadly short-lived German tv series, ,,Raumpatroille Orion" -- it is also on TH-cam )
How come that in my dreams and visions I saw things like the earth explosion while a vast dragon was coming to earth and got paralysed at the utter destruction of all lives on earth. Then a circle made of animals symboles came to me, circled it's center around me. I was at the center below the insects to wake from my vision.
At another time in a dream I saw judgement day. I was in a kind of a stadium there was a stage I was sit among others. Next to me an individual was totally happy to see God, I look at the stage. There was 3 divinities one in the middle was dress in white with golden threads and was having a head but no face. There was Jesus and there was a terrible humanoid monster. I taught that's it I'm in heaven, there will be no more drugs fun for me. And I got sad. I got called by the no face one in the middle. The voice was intern not audible but very authoritative. My name I heard. I got up went to the stage. The no face one give me a kind of ten pence with a boat stamped on it. Then my girl friend was on the stage I felt that I should give her the ten pence. Like giving to her what was given to me. She took it without thanks or any emotion. I turned around went toward the monster the monster was about to leave the stage with me. I woke up !
Where that is coming from I'm a forgiven Christian who's a sinner at birth and commited many sins that I should have die for. And never death came to me.
I'm blessed divinities love me I've been raised by Yahvé, all my childhood under the rod and other physical punishments for nothing else than the mood of my father. Not having the natural mother affection but her to was punish. I read the Bible. My favorite story is Joseph and it's twelve brothers. I do interpret dreams nowadays. I'm rather blessed and I'm not sinning much by lack of imagination of new sins to commit.
I'm sure to be special at the eye of God but now I'm seeking a Goddess to be loved of. Maybe Linanna that is also Ishra.
Last night I dreamt that I was admitted in the heaven of Egyptian Gods all was peaceful no actions. I was included in their circle we was just there in our own thoughts.
After life to all without conditions !
We are all forgiven !
Christ is dead for us to have eternal life.
I'm convinced that I'll be a colorful dragon in my next reincarnation.
An animal that I just saw in my visions when I was younger.
Afterlife is invention of Zoroaster who conceptualised his world view called daena or din. Which later on adopted by Abrahamic religions: Jewish, Christianity and Islam.
I think the Egyptians beat him to it.
@@DougShanahanMusic and even older than that based on cave paintings and other abstracts. It’s a deep seated, and understandable human desire. We hate to think that we just turn off and cease to exist.
@@iangelling yes. I was hoping he'd go back earlier. The afterlife in Gilgamesh and even pre history with burial right that suggest a belief in an afterlife.
You forget Jesus’s resurrection….I am sure it wasn’t invented but always there…..all matter goes back to matter.
100% of John Hamers don't believe in Gen X
How Gen-X of him!
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@@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 Is this a timestamp for this video?
The dna of jacobs sons is raised up in humans born in the last days. The resurrection is underway as the evil and just ones are born again as humans to exist into our modern day as the opposing seeds will grow together until the harvest when reaper angels pluck up the weeds and the wheat is placed in storehouses/saved to inherit the earth. The meek inherit the earth. Matthew 13 mathew 5 promises in the millenium believers are saved to reap reqards on earth, not heaven isaiah 65 24 14
The text of the five books of Moses, is not written by multiple authors. The first four, were written by G-D, and the fifth by Moses. Even that was word for word, directed by G-D.
@louisenorbury2703 The One and only G-D.
loool
Since you are writing a History, the Afterlife must itself be History!
Mosas, and his supoed law, may he follow it to it's end......go forth and judge.........
I'm not in a math class.
Afterlife exists regardless of religion or belief. The second you are dead your soul is no longer attached to your body and it is on its way to the afterlife. Where you spend that after life is entirely up to you during this life.
True but with clarification of terms. At death, YOU are not dead; the body you'd been inhabiting is. Your soul isn't something you HAVE; rather you ARE soul, spirit.
Nah. It'd be another phase. Why would this after-life state be permanent?
Forget afterlife ideas and who believes what. Just show me the proof .
Show yourself
A lot of conjecture being done here.
Eternal. Got it. Forever. Life that never ends? Death defines life. If it is Eternal, it is not life. imho
the light at the end of the tunnel. go to it and your dead and nobody will ever know what happened. dont go to it and nobody will ever know would have happened
That DMT was good eh? Lol
The word "Elohim" is best translated as "spirits", not "God". That most fundamental mistranslation is the source of all the dark deeds of monotheistic faiths who will fight for their fantasy creation of God in their desired image.
An interesting claim. I have spent the last 8 years studying Hebrew, inclusive of Torah study.
Tell me why you state it is best translated as "spirits".
@wills7817 I've met some of the major league players among the Elohim who thought they had gotten rid of God forever by getting him to take the bitter pill of reincarnation amnesia so they could show how much better they were at playing the game of souls than daddy. Lucifer has finally realized that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Lilith still envies her sister Karma being God's favorite, but is preparing to retreat from the chosen planet, taking as many souls as possible to the beastly heavens of possessive demons. Most of the other oldest Elohim are lost in translation, having been attracted to join the game themselves via the reality show effect. Those who "just like to watch" are inevitably tempted to join in what they see as fun and take sides for the apocalypso dance contests. This one is the big one, when the chosen species is "just right" and Goldilocks can stop pretending to be afraid of the three bears and stop supporting monkeys who think it wise to see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil. The eyes wide shut are opening fast.
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You don't know anything breh
@@TupacMakaveli1996 Pray tell what I don't know, so I can refute your assertion, brer rabbit
Afterlife is death, end of discussion
Feel sad for you
are you saying the scriptures Paul was talking about derived from zoroastrianism nonsense the egyptians used to practice the Apis bull that was a reincarnation and the prove was when the Apis bull died they would look for the bull being reborn with the symbols found upon its tongue
Daniel was written by either Daniel or someone who knew Daniel and then the I were dotted and the T's crossed by Hebrew scribes in the 6th century BCE fully inspired by the all powerful God!!
Anything's possible.
Can’t expect a scoffer I mean scholar to do anything other than a hit piece on scripture. They hate Daniel because it proves Jesus was Christ and it exposes the man of sin who continues to fulfill prophecy to this day from his city on seven hills
@@justinsevers329 That is the gist of it
There is one truth,life and way, the author of creation gives us all the criteria needed for this . There is but one true path that is correct and right, JESUS CHRIST .😊❤