Steel Turning demo with hypnotic chip flow | Seco Tools

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  • Have you ever encountered problems with long chips for your turning operations which have caused machine stoppages, untimely blockages of the palletizing system, and risks of cuts for your operators?
    Discover this demonstration of Turning with our MF2 geometry on RCMT12 round inserts. On these types of round inserts in turning, chip management is a permanent challenge, but thanks to this geometry they will be fragmented cleanly, and long chips will only be a bad memory!
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  • @kennethjackson7574
    @kennethjackson7574 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I had done a 3/4 inch diameter reduction in mild steel in one pass on my grandfather’s lathe. Beautiful spiral of oxidation colors coming off the bit. The last production run on it was circa 1970. 9,500 pieces. The limiting factor? Slippage of the leather drive belts. Yes, flat belt drive with countershaft. F. E. Reed, 1892, 18” x 72”. It now resides in the steam-powered machine shop of a mining museum. Yours obviously makes repetitive pieces quickly, but we were turning out those 9,500 pieces at 50-55 seconds each. On a 1892 lathe.

    • @lukereppucci4668
      @lukereppucci4668 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tolerances are growing ever smaller and the workforce is less skilled daily. I'm 24 trying to make it in this trade and we have a bunch of 50-40 year olds miserable and mediocre and a bunch of 70 -80 year old master machinists whom would give anything to train the young guys.

    • @joebuckland4734
      @joebuckland4734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukereppucci4668 I'm in the steel industry in the Pittsburgh area, and this rings especially true around here.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your valuable experience :)

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the way you show this; it demonstrates your inserts and the benefits in an honest and level-headed way.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot for your comment :)

  • @Harsh-23
    @Harsh-23 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those slow moves while not engaged would give my boss high blood pressure 😂

    • @lukereppucci4668
      @lukereppucci4668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those fast rapid moves off the material have claimed more spindles than cutting ever has :) tell your boss losing a machine and having to repair costs way more than .02 seconds lol

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      That machining has been only done for test purposes but you’re right that the programming might be improved. However, the better chip break ability of that geometry has allowed us to reduce the cutting time by 50% on average, compared to competitors' inserts.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahah you’re right we have then avoid breaking our spindles in addition to the time saving in cutting operations !

  • @uvk99
    @uvk99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We always used Seco tooling, when I was at work, now retired. Before that it was Kenalmetal tooling..

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the trust you’ve had in Seco tooling and we wish you a great retirement 😉

  • @westerveld02
    @westerveld02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it, IDEM. Jammer dat het verdwijnt.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment. Our company is working on a more modern and easy solution for identification to replace IDEM.

  • @StanislavPacourek
    @StanislavPacourek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To si pořídím vypadá to dobře.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      With pleasure. That insert exists in many grades to fit your machined material :)

  • @jamestrebillcock4718
    @jamestrebillcock4718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the bit where it comes off the job and starts cutting fresh air

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahah as replied in above comment, you’re right the programming may have been improved for that demonstration.

  • @__austrianoldboy_9861
    @__austrianoldboy_9861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see flying chips

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re right it’s hypnotic

  • @charliemclaughlin1042
    @charliemclaughlin1042 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice big chips 👍

  • @Jszyndlar-CNC_Krok_po_Kroku
    @Jszyndlar-CNC_Krok_po_Kroku ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why on 2nd application You're using g00 to return to start position rather than going g03?

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      As said in above comment you’re right the programming may have been improved for that demonstration.

  • @divertechnology
    @divertechnology ปีที่แล้ว

    looks great

  • @dessiediamond7414
    @dessiediamond7414 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why is zigzag trochoidal not used in groove?

    • @adammiller4879
      @adammiller4879 ปีที่แล้ว

      Small overlooked checkbox in their cam software most likely.

    • @bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11
      @bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11 ปีที่แล้ว

      The radius is so big and distribute stress well

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      The CAM software use for this demo didn’t allow us to do that. But we’re now working in another demo using that technology and we might use that zigzag trochoidal also for grooving. Stay tuned 😉

  • @taxicamel
    @taxicamel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have liked to see samples of the chips.
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    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Feel free to get in touch with us. We’re happy to share it with you 😊

  • @Saeschboy
    @Saeschboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is the performance in 1.4301?

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      For stainless steel application we also have our TM grades available to fit your application. Performance will be similar as what is shown in this video but with the use of coolant.

  • @larrymashburn7789
    @larrymashburn7789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the HP of that spindle? (machine?)

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      For this application it has been done without cooling but this lathe is equipped with a 150 bars pump

  • @futten3230
    @futten3230 ปีที่แล้ว

    how ist that not chattering like crazy?

  • @bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11
    @bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good for roughing but cnmg going to let you make 90deg angels.

    • @PBMS123
      @PBMS123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @sourand jaded Nose radius? You mean tool raidus hahaha

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use of round inserts allows to save a lot of time even with using a second tool for the radius recovery.

  • @jackstreet6979
    @jackstreet6979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Swedish/French

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      We’re a Swedish company but this workpiece has been machined in France by our colleagues.

  • @tommays56
    @tommays56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard a LOT of chatter and they NEVER showed piece after machining 😊

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      A new demonstration is being filmed using that product and we’ll remember showing the final component at the end of this video. Stay tuned 😉

  • @jeffbruce9589
    @jeffbruce9589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shockingly bad programming , what a waste of time

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      We’ll keep sure to improve programming in the future even for those demo video showcasing our tools abilities. :)

  • @gummel82
    @gummel82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those cutting pressures must be insane

    • @thomashenderson3901
      @thomashenderson3901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. The material is being taken off in tiny tiny pieces, so the work the tool has to do is kept really low, minimising deflection etc.

    • @gabbermaikel
      @gabbermaikel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomashenderson3901 stil talking about a few kw of power needed to make the bigger cuts in this video probably. But its not like a big drill where you wil pull all the power a 22kw spindle has to offer and stil not be near the limit of your drill, just the limit of the machine.

    • @PBMS123
      @PBMS123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomashenderson3901 The pressures are still huge, thats a very thick part, and the cutting speed easily needs a machine with a minimum spindle power of probabaly 10kw, and by the sound of this one, probabaly twice that.

    • @SecoToolsAB
      @SecoToolsAB  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks to that solution and the great performance of the geometry, this application requires much less than the available spindle power (15kW for this machine).

  • @dron-ckm
    @dron-ckm ปีที่แล้ว

    Всё видео в харю стружка била.