I am 6'2' 215 and love the 184 bents cause of being in the tight trees. I can make the tips get through the goalposts quicker and have enough float in deep pow for me. Your page has great info!
I Loved the raw skiing at powmou video with chris!. looking at the bent 110s for my touring ski in the wasatch. might go for backland 107s or something from moments perhaps.
My favorite pow ski of all time is the Automatic 117, still using it and hoping to find a suitable replacement. Always liked the Bent Chet in hero snow but found it too noodly and a rough ride when things get chopped up. Glad to see they made the tips stiffer, that's a great start. Like to see that weight come up to smooth out the ride, they already have a light option with the Backland.
Tbh the removal of the carbon just seems like something they did only for cost cutting purposes. The carbon was THE thing that set the 120s apart from the rest of the lineup. And the springy-ness of carbon in powder is amazing, so really sad to see that go.
You could be on to something there. For me though the new one will likely work better as I weigh 250. I felt the old one would likely have been too soft for me.
I've wanted to try the narrower Bents with the carbon backbone forever. While I don't foresee that happening, the new construction of the 120 and the 100 are beefier and more solid-feeling than ever before.
How do these compare to the Revolt 121s? I am a lighter skier based in Japan, I like doing nose butters, wheelies, hitting natural jumps. These would be my deep Japow days my other skis are center mounted ARV96 but not really in the park much tbh
The Revolt has the most dramatic rocker profile and taper shape that we see. That's saying a lot because the Bent 120 is pretty darn bowed-out as well, but the splay of the Revolt is off the charts. This adds to the free-wheeling style that it seems like you're looking for. It's also heavier, so that may factor in to your final decision. With heft comes stability, though, so keep that in mind given your weight.
Coming off some original Soul 7s in 188. I’ve skied the Sakana for a few years but thinking I need something fatter for Japan. Are these very different to the soul 7s? Looking at Pescados as well.
The 120 is quite a bit floater and more freestyle-oriented than the Soul 7. The Squad 7 was much more in line with the Atomic in terms of width, but the Atomic is still more playful. Pescado is directional powder performance without much creativity involved, but a very smooth and capable floater if you're keeping it in the fall line.
@@SkiEssentialsI’m good with a touch more freestyle oriented. I’m also good with more float. They will only get used on deep Japan powder days as I would take two sets of skis. I’m after Float, manoeuvrability in trees and I guess if they can handle some random conditions in trees it would be better.
I tried the 2022-2023 version and loved it, and I intended to buy this one but am hesitant due to the stiffness changes. I'm fairly lightweight, around 145 lb, and am afraid the extra stiffness will have a larger effect on me than it does for others. Should I look to get the 23/24 version or is the difference too small to matter?
The difference exists. I don't think it's a catastrophic change, but is fair and accurate to note that lighter skiers will likely get along better with the previous version. Then there's the cost! By getting the older pair, that likely suits you better, you're saving a few hundred dollars. www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-atomic-bent-chetler-120-skis?ski%2520size=176
Hello guys you talked a bit about not having enough nose in some lenghts. My question is I own the black crows animas in a 194 lenght and I‘m about 6,4 183 pounds. I‘m fairly strong but I want something softer with a more forward stance. Would you say that the revolt 121‘s may be a bit short for my height?
Honestly, I dont like the new construction. I absolutely love my BC120 because of the extremely low weight. That is something I was afraid of at first, but loved it while doing the first turns with it. There was no comparison. So playful, poppy and you couldnt really feel any weight at the foot. Yes, 2000g is still very light, but i cant imagine it still feel the same
Are you speaking from experience or theory? They still feel light, it's only about 100 grams spread out through the whole ski. I do think the pep has been reduced a bit, but the sturdiness has increased. As always, we encourage skiers to use empirical evidence whenever possible when it comes to new ski models. There's still nothing quite like it out there.
$850 retail. Not insurmountable. Reduce coffee, alcohol, and snacks for three months. Put all that money in a separate account and see what you come up with. It can be done!
Pretty good! The Blaze 106 is one of the better floaters at that width. The Blaze 114 would be the ski for me in that snow, though, as it has the more directional character with the extra width. But for the other attributes of the Blaze 106, combined with its good flotation, it's a sweet ski.
Hm, I am a bit worried with the changes. It gets heavier, which compromises touring capability, and stiffer which would affects light weight skiers like me. There is not much choice in that realm for light, soft, playfull skis. I guess we will end up with 110 after all as it keeps the old skis characteristics. Problem there is the length difference 172vs176.
You guys do the best reviews IMO. Always very thoughtful and detailed. Good to see Chris B. and the Bent 120's still doing so well :)
You have no clue how long i have been waiting for this video. GREAT job guys!
Thanks! Great skis with an awesome new feel.
I am 6'2' 215 and love the 184 bents cause of being in the tight trees. I can make the tips get through the goalposts quicker and have enough float in deep pow for me. Your page has great info!
Thanks for sharing!
I Loved the raw skiing at powmou video with chris!. looking at the bent 110s for my touring ski in the wasatch. might go for backland 107s or something from moments perhaps.
Top sheet looks awesome
It's more textured than glossy as well, so it also just feels different.
Sitting here in the shadow of the Cottonwood Canyon where it was 105 yesterday, basking in the powder glow of my computer screen. Great review!
We need to get him on the Cardiff powgoda, that ski is ridiculously fun to ride. Low key blows the bent out of the water
Bent Chetty 120 is legendary.
My favorite pow ski of all time is the Automatic 117, still using it and hoping to find a suitable replacement. Always liked the Bent Chet in hero snow but found it too noodly and a rough ride when things get chopped up. Glad to see they made the tips stiffer, that's a great start. Like to see that weight come up to smooth out the ride, they already have a light option with the Backland.
Definitely check out the new Maverick 115 CTi. We touched on it in this video, but it's basically what you're looking for.
Tbh the removal of the carbon just seems like something they did only for cost cutting purposes. The carbon was THE thing that set the 120s apart from the rest of the lineup. And the springy-ness of carbon in powder is amazing, so really sad to see that go.
You could be on to something there. For me though the new one will likely work better as I weigh 250. I felt the old one would likely have been too soft for me.
I've wanted to try the narrower Bents with the carbon backbone forever. While I don't foresee that happening, the new construction of the 120 and the 100 are beefier and more solid-feeling than ever before.
How do these compare to the Revolt 121s?
I am a lighter skier based in Japan, I like doing nose butters, wheelies, hitting natural jumps.
These would be my deep Japow days my other skis are center mounted ARV96 but not really in the park much tbh
The Revolt has the most dramatic rocker profile and taper shape that we see. That's saying a lot because the Bent 120 is pretty darn bowed-out as well, but the splay of the Revolt is off the charts. This adds to the free-wheeling style that it seems like you're looking for. It's also heavier, so that may factor in to your final decision. With heft comes stability, though, so keep that in mind given your weight.
1:43 "You didn't tell him he was wrong about any of his ski design?"
Bob just earned a month's wages with that one!
Ha! Just because someone's name is on the ski doesn't make them right about it, right?
Coming off some original Soul 7s in 188. I’ve skied the Sakana for a few years but thinking I need something fatter for Japan. Are these very different to the soul 7s?
Looking at Pescados as well.
The 120 is quite a bit floater and more freestyle-oriented than the Soul 7. The Squad 7 was much more in line with the Atomic in terms of width, but the Atomic is still more playful. Pescado is directional powder performance without much creativity involved, but a very smooth and capable floater if you're keeping it in the fall line.
@@SkiEssentialsI’m good with a touch more freestyle oriented. I’m also good with more float. They will only get used on deep Japan powder days as I would take two sets of skis.
I’m after Float, manoeuvrability in trees and I guess if they can handle some random conditions in trees it would be better.
I tried the 2022-2023 version and loved it, and I intended to buy this one but am hesitant due to the stiffness changes. I'm fairly lightweight, around 145 lb, and am afraid the extra stiffness will have a larger effect on me than it does for others.
Should I look to get the 23/24 version or is the difference too small to matter?
The difference exists. I don't think it's a catastrophic change, but is fair and accurate to note that lighter skiers will likely get along better with the previous version. Then there's the cost! By getting the older pair, that likely suits you better, you're saving a few hundred dollars. www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-atomic-bent-chetler-120-skis?ski%2520size=176
Hello guys you talked a bit about not having enough nose in some lenghts.
My question is I own the black crows animas in a 194 lenght and I‘m about 6,4 183 pounds. I‘m fairly strong but I want something softer with a more forward stance. Would you say that the revolt 121‘s may be a bit short for my height?
They're pretty hefty skis, so I think that the Revolt makes sense in the longer lengths for your height.
So if i wanted to mount factory and am 6’1 190 would u recommend the 193?
I think bigger is okay with these skis.
can you do the 1000s powder ski review
While the 1000 skis look innovative and awesome, we are not a 1000 skis dealer and have not gotten a chance to ski on them yet.
Honestly, I dont like the new construction. I absolutely love my BC120 because of the extremely low weight. That is something I was afraid of at first, but loved it while doing the first turns with it. There was no comparison. So playful, poppy and you couldnt really feel any weight at the foot. Yes, 2000g is still very light, but i cant imagine it still feel the same
Are you speaking from experience or theory? They still feel light, it's only about 100 grams spread out through the whole ski. I do think the pep has been reduced a bit, but the sturdiness has increased. As always, we encourage skiers to use empirical evidence whenever possible when it comes to new ski models. There's still nothing quite like it out there.
man! I need to win the lottery!
$850 retail. Not insurmountable. Reduce coffee, alcohol, and snacks for three months. Put all that money in a separate account and see what you come up with. It can be done!
Just wondering, how would a Volkl Blaze 106 do in that kind of snow?
Pretty good! The Blaze 106 is one of the better floaters at that width. The Blaze 114 would be the ski for me in that snow, though, as it has the more directional character with the extra width. But for the other attributes of the Blaze 106, combined with its good flotation, it's a sweet ski.
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Hm, I am a bit worried with the changes. It gets heavier, which compromises touring capability, and stiffer which would affects light weight skiers like me. There is not much choice in that realm for light, soft, playfull skis. I guess we will end up with 110 after all as it keeps the old skis characteristics. Problem there is the length difference 172vs176.
There's still 2024 Bent Chetler 120's around if you're interested!
www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-atomic-bent-chetler-120-skis?ski%2520size=176
Yooo
5:44 okay that was cringe. I don't care about saving 1 gram of CO2 it's about having the best skis at the lowest price point.
I'm guessing that having your name on a product changes your world view of the total environmental impact.