Scene requested by Sylvia. I know we’re on a low after tonight’s episode: But hold on because Elizabeth and Nathan had one of their most passionate conversations/almost fight yet! There’s that same friction she had with Jack- it’s cute, it’s loving. It’s gonna be Nathan. Let’s all say that together, that way it will manifest and become reality. It’s gonna be Nathan. UPDATE: I AM MOVING- for copyright and monetization reasons I have decided to keep my SCENE ANALYSES (original content) ON THIS CHANNEL but move other content including music and uncut scenes to my second channel "The little Scenes - Creative" [th-cam.com/channels/BkB5fQGdQCJ5o0RVH5ELDg.html]. There you will find the videos I have already moved and more to come! Subscribe so you're notified when a new one is up!
@The little scene - just heard on Paul Greene podcast, with Kevin & Kayla as his guest. quite interesting what he said about Lucas, ..."he is too good to be true, being too perfect in his wooing of Elizabeth "....something is yet to happen with Lucas in next episodes maybe in E10...?connection with Christopher too? Lucas has some secrets too...that phone call? Nathan will not give up readily...for me, end game is still the Mountie and the Teacher!😍🙏😉
@@emydel679 I don’t even care if he’s not a Mountie when they get together. I’d even prefer that. You’re right- finally there’s gonna be some Lucas secrets (I hope). Somethings off about his perfection.
Its gonna be Nathan, they arre soul mates! Thank you @The Little Scenes, you did a very thorough thoughtful analysis of E & Nathan. Kevin in todays podcast with Paul Greene seem to galvanise that the end game will be E & N..just hope L fans will not be upset! Lucas character will reveal some more of his past maybe...as Kevin says, "more to Lucas than being too good and too perfect " said with a chuckle...
I counted this season, six episodes end in a Nathan scene. Opposed to four Lucas. When a story teller closes a certain way to set up the possibilities for the next story, it tells you something.
Truth! Finally Nathan is ENdgame! ❤ Apart of me feels like this played out like a typical 2 hour Hallmark movie except HM & WCTH writers used Elizabeth trauma of losing Jack to keep Nathan & Elizabeth apart even though they loved each other. You see in the 2 hour HM movies the first man a woman dates ( and even gets engaged to sometimes) is not the man she ends up with when there are two possible suitors. 😂 So, Elizabeth was in a safe relationship a safe love with Lucas. That meant Nathan was ENdgame. Yes, that's what happened. Elizabeth broke up with Lucas because he was her safe relationship her safe choice, but Elizabeth was in love with Nathan too in S8 just afraid to be with him. Elizabeth was retraumatized by the idea of losing a great love, Nathan like she lost Jack. 💔 Now though Elizabeth is in a place where she can control her fears & she is ready to take the risk with the man she is in love with Nathan! ❤ Elizabeth is ready for her second great love. Jack was her first great love. ❤ Elizabeth's heart was broken 💔 when Jack died. Now Elizabeth is ready to have a deep love again with her great love Nathan! Hope Nathan will be Elizabeth's lifetime love! ❤ 😊
Few things I noticed in this: Elizabeth never says that she doesn't love nathan or have feelings for him, in fact she says that he means a lot to her. The biggest thing and reason why it is taking her all season to come around to it is because she is scared and feels guilty. She says "I can't" not I don't want to. And she also says "It will just hurt too much if I lose you." She is only doing this to protect herself from potentially getting hurt again.
I think it's definitely her fear that she moved away from N and toward L, not her love for L. I think they have things in common, but I think her heart is with N, she's just holding onto her fear for protection. I'm hoping she will see this for herself. Fingers crossed! lol
@@miblits5651well Elizabeth was in love with Nathan just afraid to be in a relationship with him. So, she denied her feelings & even lied to Nathan (and herself) in S8 with the lines "Nathan, I love you, but I'm not in love with you." Fear got in the way this was a lie! Also, "I was only trying to find Jack in you." While Nathan & Jack have the mounties in common the red surge is the only thing that may remind Elizabeth of Jack when it comes to Nathan. Jack & Nathan both good men, but Nathan is a different man from Elizabeth's late husband, Jack. Both Jack & Nathan have the same core values though again both great men!! Personality wise Nathan is a different man. I love Nathan's personality. His wit, humor, playfulness & at times serious when need be, his protective nature, being an amazing dad, an impeccable mountie & an impeccable man! #NathanGrant is amazing! I'm glad Elizabeth told Nathan "You feel like home to me" and "Nathan, I'm in love with you." Those two kisses in S11, episode 11! Wow!!! ❤ 🔥 😍 😊 #GrantUsAmarriageForNathanAndElizabeth Elizabeth was just fearful of another great love! Now she finally admitted she was in love with Nathan too! ❤ Elizabeth is finally able to control her fears though it doesn't mean she won't ever struggle with not being afraid, but she is ready for a great love again with the man she has a deep love for the man she is in love with Nathan Grant! ❤ 😊
@@catherinemeadows6682she was afraid. It was fear! Elizabeth lied to Nathan (and herself) because of fear. Elizabeth didn't want Nathan to pursue her because she was afraid. It wasn't because she wasn't in love with him. Elizabeth was in love with Nathan in season 8 when Nathan declared to Elizabeth, "Elizabeth, I'm in love with you." Elizabeth said, "I can't." Nathan said, "I know you feel the same way I do." Then Elizabeth said, "It would hurt to much to lose you like I lost Jack." S8, episode 2 was the most honest Elizabeth was with her feelings in S8. It was fear!!!! Elizabeth was in love with Nathan Grant! 💔 Elizabeth admitted as much in her speech in S11, episode 11. It was fear, but Elizabeth was in love with Nathan back in S8. ❤
I’m so happy you analyzed this so we could slow down and take it all in. The scene was so quick that it was hard to focus on all the layers of what was going on. I just hate that he didn’t buy the land- he and Allie would still love it.
@@thelittlescenes1185 as much as I didn't like how Elizabeth reacted to his confession of love in that scene, I absolutely loved how hopeful Nathan was when he was telling her about the land. He was so excited about it and then, she really bursted his bubble.
Do not give up hope! When Nathan told her I know you feel the same way about me, she did not say, I don't...she said I can't...that speaks volumes to me. That means she is fighting her feelings because she is afraid to love another Mountie again, but like it or not, it has already happened--that is why she ran off so fast. If she stayed, she might have given in to it. Remember when she cried to Jack and told him she did not think she was brave enough to love someone as brave as him? I think that's what we have here.
Yes! Glad it will be addressed next episode- I can’t just means a physical inability to do something and I’d hope she doesn’t chose Lucas just because her loss of Jack makes it hard to let Nathan in
And I feel like Rosemary's reaction to Elizabeth's telling her of what happened with Nathan, Rosemary says, "Who knows what could have happened between you two if you hadn't left!" (Not exact words) Why, Rosemary, whatever could have happened?
@@CTHailee Exactly She can"t because she is too afraid of losing him like she lost Jack. What she is too blind to see is that she could lose Lucas just as easily given the dangerous characters he comes into contact with regularly. We cannot live our lives in fear of losing those we love.
Yes Elizabeth and Nathan all the way...they have so much chemistry not just a picnic, or a walk in the park. Love is worth fighting for, he never gave up loving her. Even if she chooses Lucas something about him, coming out next season, may turn her off and make her realize. She cares way way too much for someone who does not love him. You can not shut them feelings down. When she thinks he got injured, was shot, was missing, she was devastated. She is just afraid to love him. There is a lot. She has been torn in emotions.
There was honestly still so much to unpack in last night's episode between them. She confronted him at first in regards to Ally. He expresses that he's been trying to tell Ally it isn't Elizabeth's fault. Elizabeth actually takes the blame and says she should blame her. At that point, it's like what is Elizabeth expecting from Nathan? Nathan's talked to Ally. Ally's upset. Elizabeth thinks Ally should be upset. So what are you looking for? And again she brought up fear. She consistently brings up being afraid in regards to Nathan. "I Can't be with you because you could get killed," "I was afraid something would happen with Ally if we got together.." well now it has. She consistently says she's afraid. In my opinion, this speaks volumes. They even have a scene where Nathan gives her the plaque that expresses to do what you are afraid to do. Elizabeth needs to face her fears. Nathan also has not had the opportunity to really go on a date with Elizabeth. She tried to incite it throughout last season but Nathan always held back. We know why now. Elizabeth consistently pulls back from Lucas. I often wonder if she would with Nathan. We don't know. They've never had a date. This is another reason I think Nathan is endgame. I can't see them telling us this is a love triangle that won't end until the very end and have a long slowburn romance for it to be Lucas. There's too much Nathan and Elizabeth need to get through. And that includes her fears.
Love your last paragraph, so so so true. We don’t know really what she’d be like if Nathan and her got more romantic. About Allie, Elizabeth said she was afraid this was gonna happen if things didn’t work out between her and Nathan, if they didn’t get together. And it has happened. You’re right, it would make much more sense for her to be with Nathan- she doesn’t deny her feelings for him AT ALL. She cares about him and his daughter. She can’t really move forward with Lucas. It’s just all of these things that show that there’s such a deep connection between them...I don’t see that with Lucas. They’re just- similar, in what they like, and they both speak French, and were initially higher class BUT that’s not what you should build a marriage upon. Right?
I don't know, maybe Nathan push her away to the point where he push her right into Lucas arms, Lucas knows that there's something between Nathan and elizabeth, he can see it with his eyes; I know Lucas said he doesn't have a problem with Elizabeth friendship with Nathan from the episode we just watched we now know he's lying; Lucas seem to have a big problem with it. In his head he want that to happen but in his heart he knows where her heart is.
@@julietmcdonald4932 it does seem like that a little bit. I think Nathan would prefer to be happy for her and Lucas but it’s just not working- feelings and connection don’t work that way they are a body of their own
@@thelittlescenes1185 And that's not how E wants to raise LJ, she wants to stay in Hope Valley because of the simple quiet way of life which getting together with lucas would bring a totally different outcome
This was another great analysis video! I am not sure how I feel after the episode tonight! I feel defeated and unsure if Nathan will end up with Elizabeth. I do feel Lucas is hiding something. I just feel so sorry for Allie. She is so determined, but she is hurting so much right now. And it just seems her and Nathan just keep getting kicked while they are down. I just don’t know how Elizabeth can end up with Nathan, with the way she just keeps going forward with Lucas, and I am afraid that there has been so much hurt between them, that they may not can get past that hurt! I do believe that Nathan is the right man for her! I am trying to hang in there and be positive! Keep up the great videos!
I feel just the same. Like some irreparable damage is getting done. I think Nathan is probably tougher than he seems to us the way I saw this episode- he’s gonna go for the ride Elizabeth is taking him on, and he’s ready for it. I didn’t expect that but he really is going for it. That’s a good sign since he’s been holding himself back until now and Lucas was the one romancing her. The tables are turning and it feels like finally Nathan is in charge
This was a good episode for TN because the truth is going to bring healing for both of them. She will finally get a dance with him , and then in episode 10 she will seek to get more information from Nathan about the incident. I am sure it may swing back to Lucas maybe 11 or maybe it will be both. We have no idea who E is picking. I am assuming it's nathan. If it's Lucas it will be a shock/surprise. Hold on until the end!
@@thelittlescenes1185 I think he is worse then Henry use to be. Christopher seems to know a lot about being down in the mud with him, can't wait to find out what it is!!!
I’m just going to say it. I think he deserves better. This triangle and her indecision is nuts. In real life, I think I would have told both men to move on.
You’re better than a lot of people lol! I think once you end up in a situation like that IRL- you realize...whoops we’re all more like Elizabeth than we thought. She is just in that unique situation that makes everyone go completely nuts like you said. She’s fallen down the spiral and it’s time to get out- we’re ready and so is she
@@thelittlescenes1185 That is exactly how I see it as well. I think Elizabeth and Nathan will marry and be happy. The show is about to get fun again. The character of Lucas needs a different type of personality in a woman to bring out the best in him. I wonder if Fiona will eventually grab his attention,.
This scence leads you to believe it's Nathan but the writers and actors have done a good job making it look like it could go either way ...Nathan or Lucas! After tonight's episode....seeing Allie so hurt, I'm disappointed that the triangle is going on until the end! Just end this mess and heal Nathan and Allie's hearts even if that means a BETTER woman for Nathan! I love them and the suffering they have been through this season is SO WRONG!
Elizabeth always runs away when things get too much. Back in season 4 when Jack told her he was leaving indefinitely, she ran out of the church and told Jack to 'just leave me alone'. I think she is trying to force herself to like Lucas because he doesn't touch her heart. She can maintain a level of detachment and so he feels safe.
Nathan fans believe it will be Nathan and Lucas fans believe it will be Lucas! There are going to be some seriously upset fans at the end of this season. This clip made me believe Elizabeth is running from her feelings for Nathan but tonight's episode showed her being attracted to Lucas so which is it...it's just the writers cruel game of Who will Elizabeth choose? I find myself not liking her at the moment especially after watching a heart broken Allie!
Yes, but we have to remember that right now she’s in it with Lucas. It makes sense for them to have a moment of attraction when they’re spending all that time together. But it doesn’t mean that she’ll pick him- also guess who else kissed her hand? That’s right the conman Billy Hamilton. Whoops another bad sign for Lucas
I check in once in awhile to see what's going on with the show but this is exactly why I am so happy I stopped watching after Jack died. I hadn't missed one episode for 5 seasons of their roller coaster ride with will they (Jack and Elizabeth) get together or won't they? Or will they choose a past love?? Then when they do FINALLY get together then Jack goes missing several episodes comes back they get married then off he goes again and then boom dead. I can honestly say I had no desire to keep watching after that and I still feel that way even more so now that I see them teasing fans again with will they (E&N or E&L) or won't they. I'm not on this roller coaster ride 😁 Many fans didn't want another actor to replace Jack to keep the relationship J&E had but yet they would accept her having a relationship with another actor that is not Jack. Elizabeth's husband didn't die in the books and they should had kept it that way even if it meant another actor. There were a lot of fans that would had accepted that, too, including me. I guess some fans don't mind the roller coaster ride or the teasing.
@@JustMe-ec2ph I don't mind- they are giving us a dramatic season BUT it has also never been this REAL. And to be honest, I like her relationship with Nathan much more than her relationship with Jack- there's a depth there, new story to tell (single parenthood), loss, risk...it's just something completely new. Also just love the vulnerability and "silent" strength Nathan's character portrays. I even enjoy Lucas and see a lot of potential for story there- and by now I am very certain that Nathan has been chosen to be the new leading man since S6. So I can enjoy the ride. But I'm with you- they dragged out Jack and Elizabeth getting together and then they lost the actor, I think that's the biggest shame and I don't like that they are risking that again. Replacing D Lissing would've been too big of a risk in my opinion!
This is a good analysis and I believe the goal was to convince team Nathan that Elizabeth is running from her feelings for Nathan....however ever since she started dating Lucas they keep having her accelerate that relationship I don't know how they can turn this around or if they will or even if they should....Nathan has been treated awful and so has Allie!
I know!! It’s so hard to watch. But she has made a choice for now and it makes sense to move that forward. Consider Rachel and Christopher’s relationship Elizabeth and Lucas are moving really slow. I actually think Lucas made a big mistake in not kissing her. And Elizabeth not telling him to kiss her despite feeling the heeeeaaaat shows us that well- she doesn’t really long for it THAT much. But once again she can’t go without talking to Nathan for a single day
@@thelittlescenes1185 Disappointed in how the writers have handled the interaction between Alli and Elizabeth. Alli needs someone to explain relationships to her and Elizabeth could have done a better job. You could predict Alli's reaction when Elizabeth tells her she won't be coming for dinner. I feel Elizabeth missed a prime opportunity to help Alli deal with/ and understand her feelings.
@@jansensenbaugh5995 I love how you put that- you’re right she did miss the mark there, she’s usually very good with her students...but her feelings for Nathan are...just in the way of that
I really like the play by play breakdown, too. I think Elizabeth is only superficially attracted to Lucas because of the romancing. She is attracted to Nathan even without it. We will know what the writers want soon enough.
Wow! I looooove what you said. She is attracted to Nathan even without the romancing. That's so true. Daaaang. He doesn't do ANYTHING except just be who he is and she is all getting breathless and staring at him and helping him, that's so funny
I hate this scene because it is so sad but I love your assessment of it and I think it shows what good actors Kevin and Erin are. But Season 8 has just worn me out. Last night after another painful episode 8, I deleted all the shows feom season 8 that I had taped because I really do.not want to see them again. Not even the 2nd show that had this scene in it. I think the writers and producers have done more harm than good this season.
They are amazing actors- you can tell because of how subtle their expressions and body language are: it doesn’t feel like they’re acting, it’s not exaggerated, it’s just great. I get it, this is a tough season. I hated episode 8. I don’t get why they would make Nathan fight for her like this if she is gonna end up with Lucas anyway, so I’m hoping this is where it all changes and the ball goes back to Nathan’s court
Norma I agree....even if Elizabeth ends up with Nathan there is NOTHING about season 8 I would want to watch again! Last night was the FINAL STRAW for me! Continuing this triangle was bad enough but crushing Allie's heart....a girl who has lost her mother and been abandoned by her father....bad forum on the writer's part! This little girl just wants a family and her uncle to be happy! They could have brought in a great woman for Nathan instead of crushing them this whole season if she is going to end up with Lucas but if she is going to end up with Nathan they have now caused serious hurt! Where is HOPE Valley?
I agree 100%. I haven’t even watched episode 8 yet and now I don’t want to. There’s something about Lucas I just don’t like, something devious. This whole show has gone sideways!
Thank you all for your replies. Sometimes I wonder if it is just me but then I see such frustration in so many comments. I am a Christian and I want us all to love each other and get along. I know that is not reality, and it is just a show, but it's what I want. Is Hallmark so desperate for ratings that they would jeopardize losing their viewers? I just think they are better than that and if they have a season 9 they will definitely have to do better than what they have done in season 8. Again, I sincerely appreciate all your comments, especially from The Little Scenes. I am not a techie person so I appreciate your gift more than you know. Blessings on you all!
Wendy, Gail- don’t lose hope. The good thing about this season is that it shows life’s messiness. Sometimes things have to get this messy before they get really good again. I’m thinking this will happen here and Season 9 will indeed be divine❤️❤️❤️
Just had another thought. I bet Nathan.and Allie are now wishing he had taken that promotion. Especially Allie. Poor thing not only has to deal with her feelings but she has to see her Uncle Nathan hurting too. What a mess!
I know! She gets what’s going on and it is unfair to not even give her uncle a chance😾but she has to learn to respect someone else’s feelings. I hope we see Allie being okay with Elizabeth dating Lucas because that way we can be certain that Elizabeth won’t later on get together with him just for Allies sake!
I'm hoping that after Lucas asks Elizabeth what she said here, she'll realize she's meant to be with Nathan. She never denied feelings here. If she didn't feel for him all she had to do was tell him. Instead she said "I can't." It seems obvious, especially in this scene, she has feelings for him, but is too afraid to take a chance. Also even though I'm not team Lucas, I feel bad he's probably going to get his heartbroken in the next episode. Elizabeth hasn't elaborated on this with him. All he knows is that she said she can't give him what he wants, which means he probably thinks she doesn't have any feelings for Nathan. But if she tells him the whole story, I think he'll realize that's not the case. Poor guy.
Oh that’s so well said Katelyn! Thank you for sharing. You’re right Lucas wouldn’t like knowing that she has feelings for Nathan. I think he’s starting to realize it after watching how passionately they argued in tonight’s episode
I think Lucas has been seeing this coming for a long time. (Meanwhile sipping his tea) Lucas is seeing it, and he will bow out, I believe. And then I think Elizabeth with be taking her ring off.
I don't know if anyone has said this already, but I've been thinking it for quite a while and haven't seen it posted anywhere as yet. Not that I've looked everywhere. I think Nathan vs. Lucas is just a replaying, maybe in some more depth, of the Jack vs. Matthew story way back when. Her relationship with Lucas is EXACTLY the same as with her friend in Hamilton, with whom she played the piano. I think his name was Matthew. Sorry if I got that incorrect and threw anybody off. But he wasn't for her. He was too vanilla milt-toast for her. He was easy and comfortable. Nathan recognizes that when he has that funny exchange with Carter a little while back. I predict that she is NOT going to stay with Lucas. It's all still waters there. He's going to be friend-zoned. He even knows it by the way he always tells her he just wants her to be happy. Nathan challenges her. He's the deep waters. He's the family man. He's the steady one. Lucas is simply the male version of herself, not the male counterpart TO herself. I think it's obvious. Oh yeah, and lest we forget, LUCAS IS NOT WHO ELIZABETH THINKS HE IS! He is NOT being square with her. He's hiding stuff.
It was Charles who was her friend in Hamilton. I’ve always wondered why he didn’t come to Hope Valley after Jack died. i wonder if he’s going to show up
Charles was never a romantic interest for EliZabeth. They were child hood friends. He liked her but she never had feelings for her. Totally different than Lucas. She has a lot of feelings for Lucas and is attracted to him
"Not the male counterpart TO herself" - I love that! I always describe Nathan as the grounded one, he can hold the fort down when things get messy- he's proving that right now. How well is he handling this situation, with Allie AND with Elizabeth! He's just a dream
The part about Newton made me choke on my lunch. I actually froze up eating right before that. That’s what I get for continuing to eat 😂🤣😂 You’re videos are incredible!!!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥
I am on team Allie and Nathan! I am heart broken for Allie! Elizabeth and Nathan have never been on a date. She has never given him the time and day for any visits!!!
I know, they’ve spent a lot of time together but not in a romance context. More in a friendship context. Which I actually think is the best way to start off a relationship, right? Technically she doesn’t have to date Nathan. But if she’s not gonna be 100% in it (with Lucas) she maybe should go to dinner with the guy so she’ll realize that it’s WORTH IT
With this video I understood all the feelings that Nathan and Elizabeth had when I didn't have that before and for that I thank you very much❤❤❤❤ Keep up the excellent work 👏🙏😍
Yes, for example how vulnerable Nathan was! He was completely open and how they looked at each other before she said I can’t... I didn’t know how important that was until I saw it again and in slow motion
@@thelittlescenes1185 Exactly, while before we were missing important points that we had not noticed before and not only in this and other scenes. I really hope she choose Nathan.🤞🙏 After what I've seen my hope has risen. 😍 #teamNathan
It's hard to believe that Elizabeth has aways be a person of reasoning. But she didn't take the time to talk things over with Nathan and help him clarity because it takes time to get over loving someone. Instead she started seeing Lucas. And when Nathan ask about her and Lucas date she played it off by saying it was not a date. At this point she should have stop leading him on.
This was a heartbreaking scene I just ached for Nathan. but Elizabeth is scared she’s afraid to go through what she went through with Jack. so she goes to Lucas because he’s safe. I’m really hoping that Elizabeth wakes up and realizes that Nathan is her man
This scene was so pivotal to the Nathan and Elizabeth dynamic.It was really hard watching him hurt while Elizabeth ran off.I felt really bad for Nathan.That man poured his heart out to her.I'm still hopefully Nathan will make a comeback and win Elizabeth's heart.
This is the most that I have seen Nathan express his true feelings for Elizabeth, but she is afraid 😨 of losing him like she did Jack. Love is never fair and you have to take the good with the bad.
Sorry but this scene proves it should be Nathan and not Lucas. That is why I stopped watching the show and hope it gets cancelled. The writers played with viewers emotion and made Elizabeth to be a jerk who plays with a man's emotions to throw them in his face and drive a knife in his heart. Will never watch another episode of this show again.
Yes, it was Nathan and everyone saying that Lucas was mysterious and hiding things about his past well you all were right! ENdgame. Well, good thing Elizabeth didn't marry Lucas she doesn't really know him! Lucas ex-girlfriend, Jeanette is a criminal. What will Rosemary and Randall dig up on Governor Bouchard's past? You know all sorts of articles are coming out on Lucas now that he is a politician! 😂 Was Lucas a criminal like Jeanette just not caught yet for his illegal activities or was Lucas just a man who straddled the lines of right and wrong doing questionable ethically or moral wrong things in his past? I mean Bill was suspicious that Lucas might be a criminal in S6. I tend to think Lucas did questionable shady things, but nothing illegal. Otherwise Nathan would have discovered that getting reports from other mounties in other towns, in my opinion. I think Jeanette had been just like Lucas doing questionable things straddled the lines of right and wrong, but didn't do anything illegal until one day she crossed that line & committed her first crime. Then she has continued illegal activities ever since. I tend to think Lucas while he straddled the lines of right & wrong didn't want to be involved with anything criminal so he broke up with Jeanette & moved to HV buying the saloon in S6.
@@shoregirl4733 Yes, most definitely ENdgame! I love #NathanAndElizabeth Thank You #HallmarkChannel executives #WhenCallsTheHeart co-creators for hiring Lindsay and letting JT go! Alfonso always meant for Nathan to be ENdgame, in my opinion. That's why AM worked on S10 & S11 as consultant with showrunner LS. Elizabeth has found her place, her home with #NathanGrant Elizabeth is in love with Nathan! ❤ 🔥 😍 😊
She loves him. You can see it in her eyes. He also says: I know you feel the same way and she doesn’t correct him. She is allowing her feelings of fear to take over and rob her of the happiness she and little Jack would have with Nathan and Allie.
Yes! He’s fighting for her to be honest. Right now she can’t be, it feels dangerous to her. But once she is honest, even if she picks Lucas (not that I think she will) she will be able to give both men the closure they need in this. And not leave things unsaid and any open ends
I find Elizabeths behaviours in the love triangle the most regrettable. She's a mess when it comes to her own heart.Both men deserve a definitive conclusion to this saga.And I don't see her as the great prize either. Both men have so much to give to a willing partner. Thats not Elizabeth.
Remember this: She told Minnie about Jacks death and Minnie said “That must still be fresh for you”. Elizabeth quickly changed the subject. This kind of changed my perspective on her behavior even more. We had a hunch that she wasn’t ready to move on with either guy BECAUSE of Jack, and now we’ve learned that’s true, it’s still fresh, she needs to admit that so she can move on from it.
I think the fact that she would be interested in another Mountie is just lame. They really couldn’t think of a better story line. It is highly unlikely that she’d fall for another one especially when they don’t even spend much time together. I’m just over this story line, finish it up already.
I honestly do not think this Love Triangle is realistic. Last Season ended with Elizabeth running into Nathan's Arms. In real life I think Two People would Talk about that by now. Now I get that some would want to avoid it, that part I see. But to start Dating another Man because you are hurt? Dose not even fit her Character even if she is hurt. I could more See her throwing Herself into Her Writing and Teaching. I really feel Hallmark was going for Ratings here. I do not think its playing out well for Hallmark. My Humble Opinion.
I guess for a TV series it's perhaps a little too realistic- it taking her so long to let love in and embrace it fully. You're right they probably dragged it out for ratings- the good thing is that a few women who have lost their husbands and taken a long time to love again will feel comforted seeing their story be told on a show they love. Silver lining- Thank you for being here and sharing!
I loved this scene. Yes, we are going to be very upset if Elizabeth doesn't choose Nathan. If Elizabeth said she is afraid that Nathan is going to get hurt on the job especially with that embrace last season, doesn't that mean that she already has stronger feelings for Nathan than Lucas. When Nathan confessed his feelings...I was screaming..."No, don't tell her your feelings now". OMG! I think this was the first time I was really upset with Elizabeth. This wonderful man just told you that he loves you. I have never seen Nathan this open, assertive, and vulnerable. I mean he was having such a great day before this conversation. Then Elizaberh looks shocked at his confession and her first response is to get on the horse and ride away from him. What! Really! I can't...I am starting to believe that Elizabeth does not deserve Nathan.
I am beyond annoyed they have not addressed her feeling for Nathan other then gazing or looking since this episode, she acts like she isnt interested at all and only in annoying lucas. and I just wish theyd sit down and talk and none of this up in the air back and forth that the writters are doing for them.. i love your video you did great breaking this down!!!!!!!
I feel like Nathan is the more realistic choice, while Lucas is the fairytale choice. The realistic choice isn’t as fun in the beginning but it leads to years of love, while the fairytale choice, all the fire fizzles out in the beginning and then you’re left with someone you realize you hardly know and who you’re not compatible with. It seems like she’s pursuing Lucas at full speed ahead bc she’s running away from Nathan and the fear of facing the same excruciating pain she experienced with Jack’s death. But if she continues that way, she’ll discover in years time she made a huge mistake, to make a decision out of fear and not from the heart.
Agree with almost everything you’re saying- except, she’s pursuing Lucas in turtle slow motion speed. If she was ready to be with him, she would’ve long held his hand in front of others, or kissed him. 100% Nathan is the guy that keeps the love coming even in the long run! It can fizzle out pretty quick, especially when everyday life with kids and work hits you. She definitely has to process the pain of Jacks love in order to move on- maybe reread his letter
I’ve never doubted that Nathan will end up with Elizabeth....Lucas has just been a charming smooth distraction ..,she has stuffed her feelings down for Nathan all season long and Lucas has been there dining her charming her ...he’s there every step of the way any time she talks to Nathan he’s right there snd he is definitely taking advantage of the situation of Nathan being aloof and it’s eventually going to come to a head and I have a feeling that Lucas is now figuring out that she does not love him but loves Nathan and I think he’s going to be the one who bows out gracefully. She’s clearly been running away from her feelings mainly fear that she could lose Nathan the same way she lost Jack and that’s a painful reminder...And what do we do when we don’t want to face pain we stuff our feelings down whether it’s food.. drink-gamble men.... but she’s going to have to have a heart to heart talk with herself and with Nathan ...but Elizabeth will end up with him! She may have feelings of love and definitely attraction for Lucas but she is IN love with Nathan... and now that he’s finally stepping up and is going to fight for her it should be a great outcome for all of us on Team Nathan!!!
In an I interview, B. Bird said it was a pivotal scene bc she rode straight to Jack's field! And apparently she also did that after an argument with Jack!
When Elizabeth says she doesn't know where to begin, Nathan says, "Ah, here, let me..." and he puts his hand out. What is your take on that? Was he going to ask her to sit down? Or maybe direct the conversation in a different way? That part has me confused.
I think he guessed what she was goung to say and wanted to calm her dawn (he starts to speak first and calm down with heands) Elizabeth is afraid of this love, thats why she knew that if she said this first, then it would be hard for her leave him...When Nathan begins to speak she runs away because only escape is her rescue...
Hi Sylvia, my take on it is he was trying to say "Let me go first", he sensed something was off and was going to tell her that he cares about her as more than just friends.
Ah well you got me there- I left that out😂on purpose. I was unsure if she had planned to meet him out there. She looked surprised to see him so that threw me off. Maybe her saying “Oh my goodness” was just shock to see him there. BUT her saying it in that manner and with that body language is definitely her bracing herself for what’s to come. She is just thinking out loud “Oh gosh, I have to do this now”. Anyone else wanna jump in here and tell us their assessment?
I am confused on my feelings about this triangle. Lucas is giving Elizabeth a look back at here lifestyle before Hope Valley and she is enjoying it. Nathan and Allie is representing a life that Elizabeth and Jack wanted family. Nathan offers it seems unconditional love without the frills Lucas can provide. I still not sure Lucas background has been clearly shown. From the story line I am a little distrustful of Lucas. IJS.
Não foi , tem muita coisa q não foi revelada sobre Lucas, o moço filho d sócio dele foi o Lucas que trouxe p expionar o próprio pai , e ELIZABETH não sabe disso ainda, penso q ela ainda vai se desepçionar com Lucas e só então ela vai acordar e ver a burriçe em ter escolhido o incognita do Lucas. Elizabeth com Lucas não tem nada a ver. Será q os escritores são tão sem noção, que não consegue perceber isso. Elizabeth esta ficando desacreditada, olha pro que ela ja foi e compara com agora. Veja a escola, a amizade com Rosemery e outras. Moral lá embaixo, com Lucas aí q vai piorar.
I think with Lucas she just has infatuation... but I think in this scene... with Nathan its that he’s basically telling her he could have been the one to have died! And Alli could be without her uncle... but instead shes without a husband...
Maybe Jack had to take Nathan's spot because Ally's parents died at that time and he had to go. I don't know what you guys think? Elizabeth definitely loves Nathan and that won't stop her from loving him. And obviously that's why Nathan keep it a secret cuz he knew it was going to hurt Elizabeth so much that he died. What are you guys think?
Jack had to replace Nathan because Nathan disobeyed orders and was getting punished for this- they discussed it in the episode he was in court and Bill was defending him and Allie came in crying. But I think Nathan picked hope valley because he felt responsible for Elizabeth- because Jack replacing him and dying left her a widow. He wanted to keep her safe for Jack in order to redeem himself
I thought everyone had their feelings about that and they'd think the same. What were your thoughts? I thought she was breathing heavy, had an adrenaline rush, felt overwhelm and anxiety...
@@thelittlescenes1185 I thought that she might have been upset that she knew she had hurt him. Maybe she was surprised the words that came out. " I might loose you the way I lost Jack. It would hurt too much."
When Nathan catches up with her as she retreats, he says "I know you feel the same way as I do." She does NOT deny it one bit. That's all I need to know. ;)
After seeing this last episode I am really worried that they are having her go with Lucas. I am holding onto the last strain of hope that she chooses Nathan.
I know- that was so hard to watch. The way they argues about Allie gave me hope though, they just have this chemistry she doesn’t have with Lucas. They are real friends and they want the same things in life. I mean come on, Lucas is all about his business and winning. I don’t see him settling down with Elizabeth on their own land, planting their vegetable garden, building a porch swing , painting a house...I see Nathan doing that, NOT Lucas
I love your videos! It's just so discouraging. I haven't watched this season yet but am hoping to binge it when I know she chooses Nathan...but by the looks of it...I really don't know who she will choose. signs point to Nathan...but they said it would be a shocking ending...and some people have posted parallels with Elizabeth and Lucas and it just makes me nervous lol.
This scene was beautiful but heart breaking. She loved him. She was just fearful. When Calls the Heart took us on a roller-coaster ride with Elizabeth rejecting Nathan. Then Elizabeth trying to move on with Lucas because he was safe. Elizabeth dumped Lucas (which WCTH took to far-they never should have gotten engaged in the first place) because she knew he was the safe choice not a great love like Jack. Lucas and Elizabeth may had some physical attraction (lust, not true love or maybe it was a safe love like the writing team says, but honestly I saw lust when L & E kissed) but she was missing the deep connection and love she had for Nathan. At least WCTH is getting Nathan and Elizabeth back on the right track in S11. I love this gentle love comes softly storyline. They are dancing in the next preview for Sunday's show. WCTH better be done with the triangle and have Elizabeth date and marry Nathan with them blending their families together!
I agree. They belong together and even though he does such a good job bringing up Allie- she is at an age now where she needs a mother and Elizabeth is great at being a mother and a teacher. She is also great at being a mountie’s wife.
Hola a todos,mí análisis acerca de esta escena me indica, que ella no está preparada para responderle categóricamente a esta propuesta de Nathan,para mí el lo hace de sentimientos profundos y reales.Pero esto lleva su tiempo y más adelante viene ese abrazo que transiende todo,tal cual se da aún en la vida real.Todo se realiza bajo un proceso.
Newton be like, brah, why don't you guys just eat grass, like seriously, people be cool about it, no hard feelings, all good things am I right? Nathan and Elizabeth be like: We're in a Hallmark movie we have to be dramatic
Hi! Taking his past scenes into consideration it’s very difficult to think that he’s cocky. He’s been waiting and waiting and he’s been receiving her signals...and that’s what he’s telling her here: I know you feel the same way, you’ve shown me you do. What he’s expressing is a gut feeling in my opinion.
Nathan is about fighting for love, Elizabeth’s love. But how much can a man be rejected? She’s messed up emotionally because of Jacks death. She will heal but will she give her heart to another mounty? That’s the elephant in the room!
This scene stresses me out. She doesn't want to get hurt, so she hurts someone she loves and herself and Lucas. Kind of like a bomb about to go off. Nathan looks so crushed, she looks miserable. Ahhhh! Great acting! Still hard for me to watch because of all the misery this scene has led to though.
Lucas mom fault she confused she want Nathan but she thought he got shot confused her but she love Nathan she never love Lucas only Nathan Elizabeth 4ever team Nathan
She told Nathan he is looking for something more than she can give She didn’t want to come out and hurt him that she does not love him the way he loves her
Elizabeth is a strong smart woman who wouldn’t decide on Lucas and not be certain at this late point in the triangle game. She cares for them both but Lucas is it for her.
Thank you for sharing, I have to disagree- all that we see is uncertainty with Lucas. This is not her final decision. Her pull to Nathan is way too strong. Not that that means she’ll get with him- even though I hope for that -but she’d have to first figure out if she’s with Lucas FOR Lucas, or simply because Nathan would be too traumatizing. Btw decisions out of trauma are never good
@@thelittlescenes1185 I am TL, but i completely agree. I believe that after Lucas confronts her on Nathans i love you. Lucas is no longer in the picture. If it's nathan it should have ended in episode 1. Why drag this out. Oh! because they want the fans to stick with this soap opera version of wcth. Very disappointing!
Elizabeth is one big messed up rollercoaster ride of emotional baggage. She is not marriage material she can't even figure out her own truth let alone be faithful to Lucas or anyone.
Muy buen análisis...ella no está enamorada de él... ella eligió a Lucas para bailar...y cuando lo ve se le ilumina la cara y los ojos...aunque ella no lo sepa,está enamorada de Lucas...se pone nerviosa..no atina a coger el pomo de la puerta...le entra calor cuando él le habla...etc...está clarísimo..y cómo se miran...
Nathan is her soul mate. Lucas is too serious. Nathan is great with Little Jack. Nathan loves kids. So does Elizabeth. She needs Nathan's compassion. He adapted Allie. Elizabeth left a fancy life. I don't think she would fit into Lucas's world.
![Elizabeth + Nathan [WCTH] “I Have Never Stopped Loving You, Not for a Single Second”](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6smYA0WeU28/mqdefault.jpg)
![Elizabeth + Nathan [WCTH] “When I’m With You”](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LJ2gsQTnPPo/mqdefault.jpg)
Scene requested by Sylvia.
I know we’re on a low after tonight’s episode: But hold on because Elizabeth and Nathan had one of their most passionate conversations/almost fight yet! There’s that same friction she had with Jack- it’s cute, it’s loving. It’s gonna be Nathan. Let’s all say that together, that way it will manifest and become reality. It’s gonna be Nathan.
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@The little scene - just heard on Paul Greene podcast, with Kevin & Kayla as his guest. quite interesting what he said about Lucas, ..."he is too good to be true, being too perfect in his wooing of Elizabeth "....something is yet to happen with Lucas in next episodes maybe in E10...?connection with Christopher too? Lucas has some secrets too...that phone call? Nathan will not give up readily...for me, end game is still the Mountie and the Teacher!😍🙏😉
@@emydel679 I don’t even care if he’s not a Mountie when they get together. I’d even prefer that. You’re right- finally there’s gonna be some Lucas secrets (I hope). Somethings off about his perfection.
Its gonna be Nathan, they arre soul mates! Thank you @The Little Scenes, you did a very thorough thoughtful analysis of E & Nathan. Kevin in todays podcast with Paul Greene seem to galvanise that the end game will be E & N..just hope L fans will not be upset! Lucas character will reveal some more of his past maybe...as Kevin says, "more to Lucas than being too good and too perfect " said with a chuckle...
I counted this season, six episodes end in a Nathan scene. Opposed to four Lucas. When a story teller closes a certain way to set up the possibilities for the next story, it tells you something.
@@delinarandoma1053 Oooohhh🤔😍😍😍
E and N shared more in this scene, than E and L did in all of season 8
Truth! Finally Nathan is ENdgame! ❤ Apart of me feels like this played out like a typical 2 hour Hallmark movie except HM & WCTH writers used Elizabeth trauma of losing Jack to keep Nathan & Elizabeth apart even though they loved each other. You see in the 2 hour HM movies the first man a woman dates ( and even gets engaged to sometimes) is not the man she ends up with when there are two possible suitors. 😂 So, Elizabeth was in a safe relationship a safe love with Lucas. That meant Nathan was ENdgame. Yes, that's what happened. Elizabeth broke up with Lucas because he was her safe relationship her safe choice, but Elizabeth was in love with Nathan too in S8 just afraid to be with him. Elizabeth was retraumatized by the idea of losing a great love, Nathan like she lost Jack. 💔 Now though Elizabeth is in a place where she can control her fears & she is ready to take the risk with the man she is in love with Nathan! ❤ Elizabeth is ready for her second great love. Jack was her first great love. ❤ Elizabeth's heart was broken 💔 when Jack died. Now Elizabeth is ready to have a deep love again with her great love Nathan! Hope Nathan will be Elizabeth's lifetime love! ❤ 😊
Wow!! I always analyze scenes play by play like this in my head. Glad to see others do too!! Amazing video!!!
You found the perfect place! Thank you.
Few things I noticed in this: Elizabeth never says that she doesn't love nathan or have feelings for him, in fact she says that he means a lot to her. The biggest thing and reason why it is taking her all season to come around to it is because she is scared and feels guilty. She says "I can't" not I don't want to. And she also says "It will just hurt too much if I lose you." She is only doing this to protect herself from potentially getting hurt again.
I think it's definitely her fear that she moved away from N and toward L, not her love for L. I think they have things in common, but I think her heart is with N, she's just holding onto her fear for protection. I'm hoping she will see this for herself. Fingers crossed! lol
I know Elizabeth belongs with Nathan. The writers just have to figure it out. There is no way that 😢she can be with Lucas. It would be a big crime.
She did say it at the end of season 9. " I love you but I'm not in love with you."
@@miblits5651well Elizabeth was in love with Nathan just afraid to be in a relationship with him. So, she denied her feelings & even lied to Nathan (and herself)
in S8 with the lines "Nathan, I love you, but I'm not in love with you." Fear got in the way this was a lie! Also,
"I was only trying to find Jack in you." While Nathan & Jack have the mounties in common the red surge is the only thing that may remind Elizabeth of Jack when it comes to Nathan. Jack & Nathan both good men, but Nathan is a different man from Elizabeth's late husband, Jack. Both Jack & Nathan have the same core values though again both great men!! Personality wise Nathan is a different man. I love Nathan's personality. His wit, humor, playfulness & at times serious when need be, his protective nature, being an amazing dad, an impeccable mountie & an impeccable man! #NathanGrant is amazing! I'm glad Elizabeth told Nathan "You feel like home to me" and "Nathan, I'm in love with you." Those two kisses in S11, episode 11! Wow!!! ❤ 🔥 😍
😊 #GrantUsAmarriageForNathanAndElizabeth
Elizabeth was just fearful of another great love! Now she finally admitted she was in love with Nathan too! ❤ Elizabeth is finally able to control her fears though it doesn't mean she won't ever struggle with not being afraid, but she is ready for a great love again with the man she has a deep love for the man she is in love with Nathan Grant! ❤ 😊
@@catherinemeadows6682she was afraid. It was fear! Elizabeth lied to Nathan (and herself) because of fear. Elizabeth didn't want Nathan to pursue her because she was afraid. It wasn't because she wasn't in love with him. Elizabeth was in love with Nathan in season 8 when Nathan declared to Elizabeth, "Elizabeth, I'm in love with you." Elizabeth said, "I can't." Nathan said, "I know you feel the same way I do."
Then Elizabeth said, "It would hurt to much to lose you like I lost Jack." S8, episode 2 was the most honest Elizabeth was with her feelings in S8. It was fear!!!! Elizabeth was in love with Nathan Grant! 💔 Elizabeth admitted as much in her speech in S11, episode 11. It was fear, but Elizabeth was in love with Nathan back in S8. ❤
Really enjoyed this break own of the scene! Wow are they good actors to have such real emotions conveyed. Thanks for the analysis!
Yes, I don't think you can be a great actor without feeling the actual emotions of the character!
I’m so happy you analyzed this so we could slow down and take it all in. The scene was so quick that it was hard to focus on all the layers of what was going on. I just hate that he didn’t buy the land- he and Allie would still love it.
That’s true- he was so hurt. I don’t think he could’ve enjoyed it anyway with such a memory attached to it. Thank you KC :)
@@thelittlescenes1185 as much as I didn't like how Elizabeth reacted to his confession of love in that scene, I absolutely loved how hopeful Nathan was when he was telling her about the land. He was so excited about it and then, she really bursted his bubble.
@@normasmither202 Dang it, she did. Poor guy
Do not give up hope! When Nathan told her I know you feel the same way about me, she did not say, I don't...she said I can't...that speaks volumes to me. That means she is fighting her feelings because she is afraid to love another Mountie again, but like it or not, it has already happened--that is why she ran off so fast. If she stayed, she might have given in to it. Remember when she cried to Jack and told him she did not think she was brave enough to love someone as brave as him? I think that's what we have here.
Yes! Glad it will be addressed next episode- I can’t just means a physical inability to do something and I’d hope she doesn’t chose Lucas just because her loss of Jack makes it hard to let Nathan in
And I feel like Rosemary's reaction to Elizabeth's telling her of what happened with Nathan, Rosemary says, "Who knows what could have happened between you two if you hadn't left!" (Not exact words) Why, Rosemary, whatever could have happened?
I agree totally "she did not say, I don't...she said I can't... Thats right, it already has happened--that is why she ran off so fast. Agree, Agree!
@@CTHailee Exactly She can"t because she is too afraid of losing him like she lost Jack. What she is too blind to see is that she could lose Lucas just as easily given the dangerous characters he comes into contact with regularly. We cannot live our lives in fear of losing those we love.
Exactly This scene is why she chose Lucas. I honestly believe she loves both men, but someday, Nathan will be her endgame
Yes Elizabeth and Nathan all the way...they have so much chemistry not just a picnic, or a walk in the park. Love is worth fighting for, he never gave up loving her. Even if she chooses Lucas something about him, coming out next season, may turn her off and make her realize.
She cares way way too much for someone who does not love him. You can not shut them feelings down. When she thinks he got injured, was shot, was missing, she was devastated. She is just afraid to love him. There is a lot. She has been torn in emotions.
I really want to see him this happy again.
There was honestly still so much to unpack in last night's episode between them. She confronted him at first in regards to Ally. He expresses that he's been trying to tell Ally it isn't Elizabeth's fault. Elizabeth actually takes the blame and says she should blame her. At that point, it's like what is Elizabeth expecting from Nathan? Nathan's talked to Ally. Ally's upset. Elizabeth thinks Ally should be upset. So what are you looking for? And again she brought up fear. She consistently brings up being afraid in regards to Nathan. "I Can't be with you because you could get killed," "I was afraid something would happen with Ally if we got together.." well now it has. She consistently says she's afraid.
In my opinion, this speaks volumes. They even have a scene where Nathan gives her the plaque that expresses to do what you are afraid to do. Elizabeth needs to face her fears.
Nathan also has not had the opportunity to really go on a date with Elizabeth. She tried to incite it throughout last season but Nathan always held back. We know why now. Elizabeth consistently pulls back from Lucas. I often wonder if she would with Nathan. We don't know. They've never had a date. This is another reason I think Nathan is endgame. I can't see them telling us this is a love triangle that won't end until the very end and have a long slowburn romance for it to be Lucas. There's too much Nathan and Elizabeth need to get through. And that includes her fears.
Love your last paragraph, so so so true. We don’t know really what she’d be like if Nathan and her got more romantic.
About Allie, Elizabeth said she was afraid this was gonna happen if things didn’t work out between her and Nathan, if they didn’t get together. And it has happened. You’re right, it would make much more sense for her to be with Nathan- she doesn’t deny her feelings for him AT ALL. She cares about him and his daughter. She can’t really move forward with Lucas. It’s just all of these things that show that there’s such a deep connection between them...I don’t see that with Lucas. They’re just- similar, in what they like, and they both speak French, and were initially higher class BUT that’s not what you should build a marriage upon. Right?
I don't know, maybe Nathan push her away to the point where he push her right into Lucas arms, Lucas knows that there's something between Nathan and elizabeth, he can see it with his eyes; I know Lucas said he doesn't have a problem with Elizabeth friendship with Nathan from the episode we just watched we now know he's lying; Lucas seem to have a big problem with it. In his head he want that to happen but in his heart he knows where her heart is.
@@julietmcdonald4932 it does seem like that a little bit. I think Nathan would prefer to be happy for her and Lucas but it’s just not working- feelings and connection don’t work that way they are a body of their own
@@thelittlescenes1185 And that's not how E wants to raise LJ, she wants to stay in Hope Valley because of the simple quiet way of life which getting together with lucas would bring a totally different outcome
@@julietmcdonald4932 don't forget next show Lucas is asking Elizabeth what she said when Nathan told her he loved her. By the way who told Lucas that?
Love it! I especially loved the part about Newton! He is chill back there! LOL But seriously great analysis!
Right?! Thank you!
It's fascinating to see how skilled actors and actresses actually have to be. Thank you for analyzing this.
This was another great analysis video! I am not sure how I feel after the episode tonight! I feel defeated and unsure if Nathan will end up with Elizabeth. I do feel Lucas is hiding something. I just feel so sorry for Allie. She is so determined, but she is hurting so much right now. And it just seems her and Nathan just keep getting kicked while they are down. I just don’t know how Elizabeth can end up with Nathan, with the way she just keeps going forward with Lucas, and I am afraid that there has been so much hurt between them, that they may not can get past that hurt! I do believe that Nathan is the right man for her! I am trying to hang in there and be positive! Keep up the great videos!
I feel just the same. Like some irreparable damage is getting done. I think Nathan is probably tougher than he seems to us the way I saw this episode- he’s gonna go for the ride Elizabeth is taking him on, and he’s ready for it. I didn’t expect that but he really is going for it. That’s a good sign since he’s been holding himself back until now and Lucas was the one romancing her. The tables are turning and it feels like finally Nathan is in charge
This was a good episode for TN because the truth is going to bring healing for both of them. She will finally get a dance with him , and then in episode 10 she will seek to get more information from Nathan about the incident. I am sure it may swing back to Lucas maybe 11 or maybe it will be both. We have no idea who E is picking. I am assuming it's nathan. If it's Lucas it will be a shock/surprise. Hold on until the end!
@@larrywiggin3489 I hope he’s not as bad as you listed, but time will show us☺️
@@thelittlescenes1185 I think he is worse then Henry use to be. Christopher seems to know a lot about being down in the mud with him, can't wait to find out what it is!!!
HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD AT THIS?!?!?
Kerri!!! Thank you.
I’m just going to say it. I think he deserves better. This triangle and her indecision is nuts. In real life, I think I would have told both men to move on.
You’re better than a lot of people lol! I think once you end up in a situation like that IRL- you realize...whoops we’re all more like Elizabeth than we thought. She is just in that unique situation that makes everyone go completely nuts like you said. She’s fallen down the spiral and it’s time to get out- we’re ready and so is she
@@thelittlescenes1185 That is exactly how I see it as well. I think Elizabeth and Nathan will marry and be happy. The show is about to get fun again. The character of Lucas needs a different type of personality in a woman to bring out the best in him. I wonder if Fiona will eventually grab his attention,.
She is behaving childishly and rudely towards Nathan. It’s annoying but it’s because of her fear and trying to hide her real feelings.
She is just the town tease.
@@besunamo yes. She might be walking down the isle to Lucas...but she never go through with it she will turn to Nathan
This scence leads you to believe it's Nathan but the writers and actors have done a good job making it look like it could go either way ...Nathan or Lucas! After tonight's episode....seeing Allie so hurt, I'm disappointed that the triangle is going on until the end! Just end this mess and heal Nathan and Allie's hearts even if that means a BETTER woman for Nathan! I love them and the suffering they have been through this season is SO WRONG!
Agree
Agreed!
It is way wrong to hurt Allie and Nathan!
Agree!!
Yes....E teases Lucas and can't stay away from Nathan even when he rides by. She turns to see
I've thought since last season that whichever one it looks like she's choosing WON'T be the one. Hoping it's true.
Elizabeth always runs away when things get too much. Back in season 4 when Jack told her he was leaving indefinitely, she ran out of the church and told Jack to 'just leave me alone'. I think she is trying to force herself to like Lucas because he doesn't touch her heart. She can maintain a level of detachment and so he feels safe.
I think so too, he feels safe because he doesn’t make her face any demons. Right?
Nathan fans believe it will be Nathan and Lucas fans believe it will be Lucas! There are going to be some seriously upset fans at the end of this season. This clip made me believe Elizabeth is running from her feelings for Nathan but tonight's episode showed her being attracted to Lucas so which is it...it's just the writers cruel game of Who will Elizabeth choose? I find myself not liking her at the moment especially after watching a heart broken Allie!
Yes, but we have to remember that right now she’s in it with Lucas. It makes sense for them to have a moment of attraction when they’re spending all that time together. But it doesn’t mean that she’ll pick him- also guess who else kissed her hand? That’s right the conman Billy Hamilton. Whoops another bad sign for Lucas
I’m starting to not like Elizabeth at all...
@@snowbird4788 hold on to your hope !! It’s all we have right now we have to use it😂
I check in once in awhile to see what's going on with the show but this is exactly why I am so happy I stopped watching after Jack died.
I hadn't missed one episode for 5 seasons of their roller coaster ride with will they (Jack and Elizabeth) get together or won't they? Or will they choose a past love?? Then when they do FINALLY get together then Jack goes missing several episodes comes back they get married then off he goes again and then boom dead. I can honestly say I had no desire to keep watching after that and I still feel that way even more so now that I see them teasing fans again with will they (E&N or E&L) or won't they. I'm not on this roller coaster ride 😁
Many fans didn't want another actor to replace Jack to keep the relationship J&E had but yet they would accept her having a relationship with another actor that is not Jack.
Elizabeth's husband didn't die in the books and they should had kept it that way even if it meant another actor. There were a lot of fans that would had accepted that, too, including me.
I guess some fans don't mind the roller coaster ride or the teasing.
@@JustMe-ec2ph I don't mind- they are giving us a dramatic season BUT it has also never been this REAL. And to be honest, I like her relationship with Nathan much more than her relationship with Jack- there's a depth there, new story to tell (single parenthood), loss, risk...it's just something completely new. Also just love the vulnerability and "silent" strength Nathan's character portrays.
I even enjoy Lucas and see a lot of potential for story there- and by now I am very certain that Nathan has been chosen to be the new leading man since S6. So I can enjoy the ride.
But I'm with you- they dragged out Jack and Elizabeth getting together and then they lost the actor, I think that's the biggest shame and I don't like that they are risking that again. Replacing D Lissing would've been too big of a risk in my opinion!
I just cant take it this is one of the most emotional ,dramátic and sad scenes
It really is. Even when I interrupted it with all that commentary - it’s still sad, that says it all
Watching this scene again makes sense to me. Watching season 10 brought the truth out.
This is a good analysis and I believe the goal was to convince team Nathan that Elizabeth is running from her feelings for Nathan....however ever since she started dating Lucas they keep having her accelerate that relationship I don't know how they can turn this around or if they will or even if they should....Nathan has been treated awful and so has Allie!
I know!! It’s so hard to watch. But she has made a choice for now and it makes sense to move that forward. Consider Rachel and Christopher’s relationship Elizabeth and Lucas are moving really slow. I actually think Lucas made a big mistake in not kissing her. And Elizabeth not telling him to kiss her despite feeling the heeeeaaaat shows us that well- she doesn’t really long for it THAT much. But once again she can’t go without talking to Nathan for a single day
@@thelittlescenes1185 Disappointed in how the writers have handled the interaction between Alli and Elizabeth. Alli needs someone to explain relationships to her and Elizabeth could have done a better job. You could predict Alli's reaction when Elizabeth tells her she won't be coming for dinner. I feel Elizabeth missed a prime opportunity to help Alli deal with/ and understand her feelings.
@@jansensenbaugh5995 I love how you put that- you’re right she did miss the mark there, she’s usually very good with her students...but her feelings for Nathan are...just in the way of that
She will remember his words
Okay so when Allie sneakily invites Elizabeth with that pop up card, did anyone have jack/founders day painting flashbacks???
OMG! ThAT was IT! It looked so familiar- they painted it exactly the same😂
@@thelittlescenes1185 yup! I really think that's a parallel there. Although not coming from Nathan himself. I loved it!
Yes!!!!!
Your breakdown really makes you appreciate just what good actors they are. Loved this scene. She loves Nathan! However, she is attracted to Lucas.
I really like the play by play breakdown, too. I think Elizabeth is only superficially attracted to Lucas because of the romancing. She is attracted to Nathan even without it. We will know what the writers want soon enough.
Wow! I looooove what you said. She is attracted to Nathan even without the romancing. That's so true. Daaaang. He doesn't do ANYTHING except just be who he is and she is all getting breathless and staring at him and helping him, that's so funny
if she continues to deny her feelings for Nathan, ending up with Lucas, I'm done with this show.
It’ll all work out.
I hate this scene because it is so sad but I love your assessment of it and I think it shows what good actors Kevin and Erin are. But Season 8 has just worn me out. Last night after another painful episode 8, I deleted all the shows feom season 8 that I had taped because I really do.not want to see them again. Not even the 2nd show that had this scene in it. I think the writers and producers have done more harm than good this season.
They are amazing actors- you can tell because of how subtle their expressions and body language are: it doesn’t feel like they’re acting, it’s not exaggerated, it’s just great.
I get it, this is a tough season. I hated episode 8. I don’t get why they would make Nathan fight for her like this if she is gonna end up with Lucas anyway, so I’m hoping this is where it all changes and the ball goes back to Nathan’s court
Norma I agree....even if Elizabeth ends up with Nathan there is NOTHING about season 8 I would want to watch again! Last night was the FINAL STRAW for me! Continuing this triangle was bad enough but crushing Allie's heart....a girl who has lost her mother and been abandoned by her father....bad forum on the writer's part! This little girl just wants a family and her uncle to be happy! They could have brought in a great woman for Nathan instead of crushing them this whole season if she is going to end up with Lucas but if she is going to end up with Nathan they have now caused serious hurt! Where is HOPE Valley?
I agree 100%. I haven’t even watched episode 8 yet and now I don’t want to. There’s something about Lucas I just don’t like, something devious. This whole show has gone sideways!
Thank you all for your replies. Sometimes I wonder if it is just me but then I see such frustration in so many comments. I am a Christian and I want us all to love each other and get along. I know that is not reality, and it is just a show, but it's what I want. Is Hallmark so desperate for ratings that they would jeopardize losing their viewers? I just think they are better than that and if they have a season 9 they will definitely have to do better than what they have done in season 8. Again, I sincerely appreciate all your comments, especially from The Little Scenes. I am not a techie person so I appreciate your gift more than you know. Blessings on you all!
Wendy, Gail- don’t lose hope. The good thing about this season is that it shows life’s messiness. Sometimes things have to get this messy before they get really good again. I’m thinking this will happen here and Season 9 will indeed be divine❤️❤️❤️
Just had another thought. I bet Nathan.and Allie are now wishing he had taken that promotion. Especially Allie. Poor thing not only has to deal with her feelings but she has to see her Uncle Nathan hurting too. What a mess!
I know! She gets what’s going on and it is unfair to not even give her uncle a chance😾but she has to learn to respect someone else’s feelings. I hope we see Allie being okay with Elizabeth dating Lucas because that way we can be certain that Elizabeth won’t later on get together with him just for Allies sake!
It really is a mess
Thought same thing. Wonder if they'll be written out now.
@@darant2249 they’re all staying!
@@thelittlescenes1185 yeah!
wow your analysis made this scene so much more meaningful and dramatic! thanks
More dramatic? Oooooo. Thank you! lol
I'm hoping that after Lucas asks Elizabeth what she said here, she'll realize she's meant to be with Nathan. She never denied feelings here. If she didn't feel for him all she had to do was tell him. Instead she said "I can't." It seems obvious, especially in this scene, she has feelings for him, but is too afraid to take a chance. Also even though I'm not team Lucas, I feel bad he's probably going to get his heartbroken in the next episode. Elizabeth hasn't elaborated on this with him. All he knows is that she said she can't give him what he wants, which means he probably thinks she doesn't have any feelings for Nathan. But if she tells him the whole story, I think he'll realize that's not the case. Poor guy.
Oh that’s so well said Katelyn! Thank you for sharing. You’re right Lucas wouldn’t like knowing that she has feelings for Nathan. I think he’s starting to realize it after watching how passionately they argued in tonight’s episode
I would feel bad for him, but he knew this in season 7 when she hugged Nathan so passionately when she thought he was shot.
I think Lucas has been seeing this coming for a long time. (Meanwhile sipping his tea) Lucas is seeing it, and he will bow out, I believe. And then I think Elizabeth with be taking her ring off.
Great job in analyzing the video.
Great job! Agree 100%!
Thank you!
Wow, say they are doing some great acting!
Right!? They are IN IT
And here we are again! 😂
The Newton comment makes me laugh every time!! I love Newton ❤
I don't know if anyone has said this already, but I've been thinking it for quite a while and haven't seen it posted anywhere as yet. Not that I've looked everywhere. I think Nathan vs. Lucas is just a replaying, maybe in some more depth, of the Jack vs. Matthew story way back when. Her relationship with Lucas is EXACTLY the same as with her friend in Hamilton, with whom she played the piano. I think his name was Matthew. Sorry if I got that incorrect and threw anybody off. But he wasn't for her. He was too vanilla milt-toast for her. He was easy and comfortable. Nathan recognizes that when he has that funny exchange with Carter a little while back. I predict that she is NOT going to stay with Lucas. It's all still waters there. He's going to be friend-zoned. He even knows it by the way he always tells her he just wants her to be happy. Nathan challenges her. He's the deep waters. He's the family man. He's the steady one. Lucas is simply the male version of herself, not the male counterpart TO herself. I think it's obvious. Oh yeah, and lest we forget, LUCAS IS NOT WHO ELIZABETH THINKS HE IS! He is NOT being square with her. He's hiding stuff.
Right on, Sallie!!!
It was Charles who was her friend in Hamilton. I’ve always wondered why he didn’t come to Hope Valley after Jack died. i wonder if he’s going to show up
Charles was never a romantic interest for EliZabeth. They were child hood friends. He liked her but she never had feelings for her. Totally different than Lucas. She has a lot of feelings for Lucas and is attracted to him
I don't know. Does she have feelings for him? She sure is hiding them well.
"Not the male counterpart TO herself" - I love that! I always describe Nathan as the grounded one, he can hold the fort down when things get messy- he's proving that right now. How well is he handling this situation, with Allie AND with Elizabeth! He's just a dream
The part about Newton made me choke on my lunch. I actually froze up eating right before that. That’s what I get for continuing to eat 😂🤣😂
You’re videos are incredible!!!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥
😂😂😂i can imagine. When I first noticed him back there I laughed so hard. Thank you!❤️
I am on team Allie and Nathan!
I am heart broken for Allie!
Elizabeth and Nathan have never been on a date. She has never given him the time and day for any visits!!!
I know, they’ve spent a lot of time together but not in a romance context. More in a friendship context. Which I actually think is the best way to start off a relationship, right?
Technically she doesn’t have to date Nathan. But if she’s not gonna be 100% in it (with Lucas) she maybe should go to dinner with the guy so she’ll realize that it’s WORTH IT
With this video I understood all the feelings that Nathan and Elizabeth had when I didn't have that before and for that I thank you very much❤❤❤❤ Keep up the excellent work 👏🙏😍
That is so sweet! You're so welcome! I'm glad you learned as much as I did, cause I didn't know it before the video either lol
@@thelittlescenes1185 Haha Really? I didn't know it. Either way, thank you, I understood a lot with this video. ❤
Yes, for example how vulnerable Nathan was! He was completely open and how they looked at each other before she said I can’t... I didn’t know how important that was until I saw it again and in slow motion
@@thelittlescenes1185 Exactly, while before we were missing important points that we had not noticed before and not only in this and other scenes. I really hope she choose Nathan.🤞🙏 After what I've seen my hope has risen. 😍 #teamNathan
It's hard to believe that Elizabeth has aways be a person of reasoning. But she didn't take the time to talk things over with Nathan and help him clarity because it takes time to get over loving someone. Instead she started seeing Lucas. And when Nathan ask about her and Lucas date she played it off by saying it was not a date. At this point she should have stop leading him on.
This was a heartbreaking scene I just ached for Nathan. but Elizabeth is scared she’s afraid to go through what she went through with Jack. so she goes to Lucas because he’s safe. I’m really hoping that Elizabeth wakes up and realizes that Nathan is her man
Same
This scene was so pivotal to the Nathan and Elizabeth dynamic.It was really hard watching him hurt while Elizabeth ran off.I felt really bad for Nathan.That man poured his heart out to her.I'm still hopefully Nathan will make a comeback and win Elizabeth's heart.
All is pointing toward that- WRITERS don’t let us down!!!
Heartless Elizabeth!
Eliabeth needs Nathan and he needs her no matter what the circumstances. I believe they need each other
This is the most that I have seen Nathan express his true feelings for Elizabeth, but she is afraid 😨 of losing him like she did Jack. Love is never fair and you have to take the good with the bad.
True
Excellent analysis..I study similar facial and body movements with some interesting truth and deception...it is interesting...wonderful analysis
Interesting! Thank you.
Sorry but this scene proves it should be Nathan and not Lucas. That is why I stopped watching the show and hope it gets cancelled. The writers played with viewers emotion and made Elizabeth to be a jerk who plays with a man's emotions to throw them in his face and drive a knife in his heart. Will never watch another episode of this show again.
Things are changing on the show now
Never Nathan!!!
I really hope you started watching again!!!! It's FINALLY our, I mean Nathan's time!! Lol
END. GAME. 🎉🎉❤🎉🎉
Yes, it was Nathan and everyone saying that Lucas was mysterious and hiding things about his past well you all were right! ENdgame. Well, good thing Elizabeth didn't marry Lucas she doesn't really know him! Lucas ex-girlfriend, Jeanette is a criminal. What will Rosemary and Randall dig up on Governor Bouchard's past? You know all sorts of articles are coming out on Lucas now that he is a politician! 😂 Was Lucas a criminal like Jeanette just not caught yet for his illegal activities or was Lucas just a man who straddled the lines of right and wrong doing questionable ethically or moral wrong things in his past? I mean Bill was suspicious that Lucas might be a criminal in S6. I tend to think Lucas did questionable shady things, but nothing illegal. Otherwise Nathan would have discovered that getting reports from other mounties in other towns, in my opinion. I think Jeanette had been just like Lucas doing questionable things straddled the lines of right and wrong, but didn't do anything illegal until one day she crossed that line & committed her first crime. Then she has continued illegal activities ever since. I tend to think Lucas while he straddled the lines of right & wrong didn't want to be involved with anything criminal so he broke up with Jeanette & moved to HV buying the saloon in S6.
@@shoregirl4733 Yes, most definitely ENdgame! I love #NathanAndElizabeth Thank You #HallmarkChannel executives #WhenCallsTheHeart co-creators for hiring Lindsay and letting JT go! Alfonso always meant for Nathan to be ENdgame, in my opinion. That's why AM worked on S10 & S11 as consultant with showrunner LS. Elizabeth has found her place, her home with #NathanGrant Elizabeth is in love with Nathan! ❤ 🔥 😍 😊
It’s always been Nathan, she’s just living in fear
I honestly believe she wants to be with him, but she's convinced herself she can't.
She loves him. You can see it in her eyes. He also says: I know you feel the same way and she doesn’t correct him.
She is allowing her feelings of fear to take over and rob her of the happiness she and little Jack would have with Nathan and Allie.
Yup!
I almost decided never to watch WCTH after this but you are right watching Nathan fight for her makes the wait worth it. Love what a peculiar thing😃
Yes! He’s fighting for her to be honest. Right now she can’t be, it feels dangerous to her. But once she is honest, even if she picks Lucas (not that I think she will) she will be able to give both men the closure they need in this. And not leave things unsaid and any open ends
I find Elizabeths behaviours in the love triangle the most regrettable. She's a mess when it comes to her own heart.Both men deserve a definitive conclusion to this saga.And I don't see her as the great prize either. Both men have so much to give to a willing partner. Thats not Elizabeth.
Remember this: She told Minnie about Jacks death and Minnie said “That must still be fresh for you”. Elizabeth quickly changed the subject. This kind of changed my perspective on her behavior even more. We had a hunch that she wasn’t ready to move on with either guy BECAUSE of Jack, and now we’ve learned that’s true, it’s still fresh, she needs to admit that so she can move on from it.
Other than that I agree, she isn’t a prize at all right now, she’s a mess. We all are at times and I hope she stops making others clean up after her
I think the fact that she would be interested in another Mountie is just lame. They really couldn’t think of a better story line. It is highly unlikely that she’d fall for another one especially when they don’t even spend much time together. I’m just over this story line, finish it up already.
I honestly do not think this Love Triangle is realistic. Last Season ended with Elizabeth running into Nathan's Arms. In real life I think Two People would Talk about that by now.
Now I get that some would want to avoid it, that part I see. But to start Dating another Man because you are hurt? Dose not even fit her Character even if she is hurt. I could more See her throwing Herself into Her Writing and Teaching. I really feel Hallmark was going for Ratings here. I do not think its playing out well for Hallmark. My Humble Opinion.
I guess for a TV series it's perhaps a little too realistic- it taking her so long to let love in and embrace it fully. You're right they probably dragged it out for ratings- the good thing is that a few women who have lost their husbands and taken a long time to love again will feel comforted seeing their story be told on a show they love. Silver lining- Thank you for being here and sharing!
I loved this scene. Yes, we are going to be very upset if Elizabeth doesn't choose Nathan. If Elizabeth said she is afraid that Nathan is going to get hurt on the job especially with that embrace last season, doesn't that mean that she already has stronger feelings for Nathan than Lucas.
When Nathan confessed his feelings...I was screaming..."No, don't tell her your feelings now". OMG! I think this was the first time I was really upset with Elizabeth. This wonderful man just told you that he loves you. I have never seen Nathan this open, assertive, and vulnerable. I mean he was having such a great day before this conversation. Then Elizaberh looks shocked at his confession and her first response is to get on the horse and ride away from him. What! Really! I can't...I am starting to believe that Elizabeth does not deserve Nathan.
She is so hurt. But she’ll work through it
I miss your analyzes of their scenes together. I still hope you will make new ones 🤞🏻
I am beyond annoyed they have not addressed her feeling for Nathan other then gazing or looking since this episode, she acts like she isnt interested at all and only in annoying lucas. and I just wish theyd sit down and talk and none of this up in the air back and forth that the writters are doing for them.. i love your video you did great breaking this down!!!!!!!
Thank you! Actually, she acts like she is very interested in Nate, but desperately trying to hide it- it's not workin though
I feel like Nathan is the more realistic choice, while Lucas is the fairytale choice. The realistic choice isn’t as fun in the beginning but it leads to years of love, while the fairytale choice, all the fire fizzles out in the beginning and then you’re left with someone you realize you hardly know and who you’re not compatible with. It seems like she’s pursuing Lucas at full speed ahead bc she’s running away from Nathan and the fear of facing the same excruciating pain she experienced with Jack’s death. But if she continues that way, she’ll discover in years time she made a huge mistake, to make a decision out of fear and not from the heart.
Agree with almost everything you’re saying- except, she’s pursuing Lucas in turtle slow motion speed. If she was ready to be with him, she would’ve long held his hand in front of others, or kissed him.
100% Nathan is the guy that keeps the love coming even in the long run! It can fizzle out pretty quick, especially when everyday life with kids and work hits you.
She definitely has to process the pain of Jacks love in order to move on- maybe reread his letter
@@thelittlescenes1185 Agree 100%
I was shocked. I think she chose lucas because she feels safe and like back home. Won't last she wanted hope valley life.
I’ve never doubted that Nathan will end up with Elizabeth....Lucas has just been a charming smooth distraction ..,she has stuffed her feelings down for Nathan all season long and Lucas has been there dining her charming her ...he’s there every step of the way any time she talks to Nathan he’s right there snd he is definitely taking advantage of the situation of Nathan being aloof and it’s eventually going to come to a head and I have a feeling that Lucas is now figuring out that she does not love him but loves Nathan and I think he’s going to be the one who bows out gracefully. She’s clearly been running away from her feelings mainly fear that she could lose Nathan the same way she lost Jack and that’s a painful reminder...And what do we do when we don’t want to face pain we stuff our feelings down whether it’s food.. drink-gamble men.... but she’s going to have to have a heart to heart talk with herself and with Nathan ...but Elizabeth will end up with him! She may have feelings of love and definitely attraction for Lucas but she is IN love with Nathan... and now that he’s finally stepping up and is going to fight for her it should be a great outcome for all of us on Team Nathan!!!
Perfectly said! Amen!!
@@meganpemberton And Lucas did bow out gracefully - Spot ON!
Well said!! I SO HOPE you are correct!
My thoughts? I have had enough of this. Lucas can have her. Nathan deserves better.
Lol. I feel you- but I’m not ready to give her to Lucas
Yes she plays cat & mouse & is a drama queen. We're tired of the series ... like modern day soap opera.
what was her thoughts after she rode through the field?
Probably nothing- just feeling all the fear
In an I interview, B. Bird said it was a pivotal scene bc she rode straight to Jack's field! And apparently she also did that after an argument with Jack!
@@justjast Interesting!
Team Nathan she loves him ❤ and she always .will tell
She loves him but isn't in love with him. She doesn't want to hurt him
Nathan let Elizabeth go her way and u and Allie live your lives.
When Elizabeth says she doesn't know where to begin, Nathan says, "Ah, here, let me..." and he puts his hand out.
What is your take on that? Was he going to ask her to sit down? Or maybe direct the conversation in a different way? That part has me confused.
I think he guessed what she was goung to say and wanted to calm her dawn (he starts to speak first and calm down with heands) Elizabeth is afraid of this love, thats why she knew that if she said this first, then it would be hard for her leave him...When Nathan begins to speak she runs away because only escape is her rescue...
Hi Sylvia, my take on it is he was trying to say "Let me go first", he sensed something was off and was going to tell her that he cares about her as more than just friends.
Why does Elizabeth say oh my goodness at the beginning when he is riding up?
Ah well you got me there- I left that out😂on purpose.
I was unsure if she had planned to meet him out there. She looked surprised to see him so that threw me off. Maybe her saying “Oh my goodness” was just shock to see him there. BUT her saying it in that manner and with that body language is definitely her bracing herself for what’s to come. She is just thinking out loud “Oh gosh, I have to do this now”.
Anyone else wanna jump in here and tell us their assessment?
I think she was nervous about having the conversation and seeing him meant she had to do it
@@thelittlescenes1185 agree. "The time has now come." "This is it."
I am confused on my feelings about this triangle. Lucas is giving Elizabeth a look back at here lifestyle before Hope Valley and she is enjoying it. Nathan and Allie is representing a life that Elizabeth and Jack wanted family. Nathan offers it seems unconditional love without the frills Lucas can provide. I still not sure Lucas background has been clearly shown. From the story line I am a little distrustful of Lucas. IJS.
I think Nathan feels like a more natural choice- like it just make sense! They click, they zing, they make sense
Perfect!
Não foi , tem muita coisa q não foi revelada sobre Lucas, o moço filho d sócio dele foi o Lucas que trouxe p expionar o próprio pai , e ELIZABETH não sabe disso ainda, penso q ela ainda vai se desepçionar com Lucas e só então ela vai acordar e ver a burriçe em ter escolhido o incognita do Lucas.
Elizabeth com Lucas não tem nada a ver. Será q os escritores são tão sem noção, que não consegue perceber isso. Elizabeth esta ficando desacreditada, olha pro que ela ja foi e compara com agora.
Veja a escola, a amizade com Rosemery e outras.
Moral lá embaixo, com Lucas aí q vai piorar.
I think with Lucas she just has infatuation...
but I think in this scene... with Nathan its that he’s basically telling her he could have been the one to have died! And Alli could be without her uncle... but instead shes without a husband...
Interesting perspective! I don't think she will dwell on this too much
I'm so disappointed in the ending. I don't know if I will watch next season💔😪
Maybe Jack had to take Nathan's spot because Ally's parents died at that time and he had to go. I don't know what you guys think? Elizabeth definitely loves Nathan and that won't stop her from loving him. And obviously that's why Nathan keep it a secret cuz he knew it was going to hurt Elizabeth so much that he died. What are you guys think?
Jack had to replace Nathan because Nathan disobeyed orders and was getting punished for this- they discussed it in the episode he was in court and Bill was defending him and Allie came in crying.
But I think Nathan picked hope valley because he felt responsible for Elizabeth- because Jack replacing him and dying left her a widow. He wanted to keep her safe for Jack in order to redeem himself
I think this could also be true and that could be sign to Elizabeth that maybe in another life they could’ve ended up together too!
She's really in love with Lucas,she just don't want tell Nathan because she doesn't want to hurt him.
It's always been Nathan they have that chemistry!!!
What about Elizabeth riding off crying?
I thought everyone had their feelings about that and they'd think the same. What were your thoughts?
I thought she was breathing heavy, had an adrenaline rush, felt overwhelm and anxiety...
@@thelittlescenes1185 I thought that she might have been upset that she knew she had hurt him. Maybe she was surprised the words that came out. " I might loose you the way I lost Jack. It would hurt too much."
@@susanlehmann3020 agree, she definitely realized how much she hurt him because his feelings were deeper than she initially thought
When Nathan catches up with her as she retreats, he says "I know you feel the same way as I do." She does NOT deny it one bit. That's all I need to know. ;)
Yes
Very telling moment to me also.
After seeing this last episode I am really worried that they are having her go with Lucas. I am holding onto the last strain of hope that she chooses Nathan.
I know- that was so hard to watch. The way they argues about Allie gave me hope though, they just have this chemistry she doesn’t have with Lucas. They are real friends and they want the same things in life. I mean come on, Lucas is all about his business and winning. I don’t see him settling down with Elizabeth on their own land, planting their vegetable garden, building a porch swing , painting a house...I see Nathan doing that, NOT Lucas
@@thelittlescenes1185 I hope your right
@@80077655 well taking someone to an event is really the easy thing to do ...
Lucas stated he wants to have a family
@@robinsobieralski9545 and he’s “in no rush” - kind of hard when he would become Jacks step father
I love your videos! It's just so discouraging. I haven't watched this season yet but am hoping to binge it when I know she chooses Nathan...but by the looks of it...I really don't know who she will choose. signs point to Nathan...but they said it would be a shocking ending...and some people have posted parallels with Elizabeth and Lucas and it just makes me nervous lol.
Does it really bug anyone else that she keeps interrupting him?! I keep wondering what was he wanting to say...
I love this!!! Ok on Spoilertv WCTH The Kiss is that the house Nathan is describing?
Wow you are good
Thanks Ella!
😊
This scene was beautiful but heart breaking. She loved him. She was just fearful. When Calls the Heart took us on a roller-coaster ride with Elizabeth rejecting Nathan. Then Elizabeth trying to move on with Lucas because he was safe. Elizabeth dumped Lucas (which WCTH took to far-they never should have gotten engaged in the first place) because she knew he was the safe choice not a great love like Jack. Lucas and Elizabeth may had some physical attraction (lust, not true love or maybe it was a safe love like the writing team says, but honestly I saw lust when L & E kissed) but she was missing the deep connection and love she had for Nathan. At least WCTH is getting Nathan and Elizabeth back on the right track in S11. I love this gentle love comes softly storyline. They are dancing in the next preview for Sunday's show. WCTH better be done with the triangle and have Elizabeth date and marry Nathan with them blending their families together!
I agree. They belong together and even though he does such a good job bringing up Allie- she is at an age now where she needs a mother and Elizabeth is great at being a mother and a teacher. She is also great at being a mountie’s wife.
Hola a todos,mí análisis acerca de esta escena me indica, que ella no está preparada para responderle categóricamente a esta propuesta de Nathan,para mí el lo hace de sentimientos profundos y reales.Pero esto lleva su tiempo y más adelante viene ese abrazo que transiende todo,tal cual se da aún en la vida real.Todo se realiza bajo un proceso.
Si - verdad!
Elizabeth can't just go for the safe option with Lucas, she might regret it in the long run.
Newton be like, brah, why don't you guys just eat grass, like seriously, people be cool about it, no hard feelings, all good things am I right?
Nathan and Elizabeth be like:
We're in a Hallmark movie we have to be dramatic
LOL! True
So no one thinks that Nathan is a bit too cocky?
Hi! Taking his past scenes into consideration it’s very difficult to think that he’s cocky. He’s been waiting and waiting and he’s been receiving her signals...and that’s what he’s telling her here: I know you feel the same way, you’ve shown me you do. What he’s expressing is a gut feeling in my opinion.
😢💔
Nathan is about fighting for love, Elizabeth’s love. But how much can a man be rejected? She’s messed up emotionally because of Jacks death. She will heal but will she give her heart to another mounty? That’s the elephant in the room!
Fica com o Nathan
This scene stresses me out. She doesn't want to get hurt, so she hurts someone she loves and herself and Lucas. Kind of like a bomb about to go off. Nathan looks so crushed, she looks miserable. Ahhhh! Great acting! Still hard for me to watch because of all the misery this scene has led to though.
Lucas mom fault she confused she want Nathan but she thought he got shot confused her but she love Nathan she never love Lucas only Nathan Elizabeth 4ever team Nathan
Eu gosto dos dois juntos.quero q eles ficam juntos
She told Nathan he is looking for something more than she can give
She didn’t want to come out and hurt him that she does not love him the way he loves her
Elizabeth is a strong smart woman who wouldn’t decide on Lucas and not be certain at this late point in the triangle game. She cares for them both but Lucas is it for her.
Thank you for sharing, I have to disagree- all that we see is uncertainty with Lucas. This is not her final decision. Her pull to Nathan is way too strong. Not that that means she’ll get with him- even though I hope for that -but she’d have to first figure out if she’s with Lucas FOR Lucas, or simply because Nathan would be too traumatizing. Btw decisions out of trauma are never good
@@thelittlescenes1185 I am TL, but i completely agree. I believe that after Lucas confronts her on Nathans i love you. Lucas is no longer in the picture. If it's nathan it should have ended in episode 1. Why drag this out. Oh! because they want the fans to stick with this soap opera version of wcth. Very disappointing!
@@auntiedmc6457 well they tried something new, we didn’t like it, so next season will be amazing
Cuantas temporadas van xque vi 6 en netflix y quedé esperando así no termina
Caramba tudo em inglês como posso comentar amo esses dois queria que ficassem juntos
Elizabeth is one big messed up rollercoaster ride of emotional baggage. She is not marriage material she can't even figure out her own truth let alone be faithful to Lucas or anyone.
Not sure, but for some reason I dont think it's going to be either !!
Oh she's ending up with Nathan
Let her pick Nathan .Please.
Muy buen análisis...ella no está enamorada de él... ella eligió a Lucas para bailar...y cuando lo ve se le ilumina la cara y los ojos...aunque ella no lo sepa,está enamorada de Lucas...se pone nerviosa..no atina a coger el pomo de la puerta...le entra calor cuando él le habla...etc...está clarísimo..y cómo se miran...
Nathan doesn’t love her he just feels guilty about jack so he doesn’t know how to handle that.
No la miro más no me gusta lucas yo quería q se quede con Nathan
Can you do the scene when Elizabeth finds out jack is dead plz
I know she loves him but is to scared to comit because of losing Jack. I hope they end up together ❤️
Nathan is her soul mate. Lucas is too serious. Nathan is great with Little Jack. Nathan loves kids. So does Elizabeth. She needs Nathan's compassion. He adapted Allie. Elizabeth left a fancy life. I don't think she would fit into Lucas's world.
Hm, I think Nathan is the more serious one- and I like that. She needs someone serious because hes also gonna be Jacks dad