I like how everyone thought this manifestation of Sky was the Arcane or Void deceiving Viktor and is evil, when in reality this manifestation was either Sky's consciousness in the Arcane or just a subconscious aspect of Viktor, ultimately representing his humanity and is genuinely good.
@@fighder2me too, I was one of those who assumed that her presence was artificially made by the Arcane/void. This last statement confirms that she was neither, but a mirror to Viktor's conscience.
Notice how Sky said “No, you won’t.” Because she knew the man she loved wasn’t there anymore. She didn’t try to talk Viktor out of what he was becoming because she knew it was too late but still wanted to be by his side til the end. I’m sure she’d be happy to know Viktor comes back to the light.
@@noxustdsthat’s literally the same thing. Being emotionless is the same as the man she loved not being there anymore. Sky loved Viktor for his passion, dedication, and work. All this is gone when Viktor pursues the arcane.
i felt like she was giving him a second chance… but his response was very robotic/ or too focus on his work like in part 1… Hence why she said he won’t, since he’s is too obsessed with passion instead of love for Sky.
It is honestly amazing sometimes the way they manage to give a scene such a level of impact with so little actual character vocal lines involved, just using the music and the visuals. This is one of my favourite scenes in the entire show just because of how beautifully haunting it is.
ik it’s simultaneously tragic and transcendental … like you’re appreciating what viktor is trying to achieve while simultaneously mourning his humanity … what’s the point of perfection if nobody can appreciate it?
Totally agree man, if you really look closely, Viktor's real face under that mask has this weird spacing that makes it look distorted, and come to think of it, the only "human component" remaining in Viktor before the Glorious Evolution was his head, which obviously contains his brain (his thoughts, emotions, and memories). I think Fortiche made it look like the Hexcore entity is emerging from his head, seemingly fighting over the control of Viktor's thoughts.
With hindsight, I truly think Sky was meant to be a symbol of Viktor's humanity and that she probably meant a lot more to Viktor than we initially think. If she didn't, I just don't think he would have taken her notes with him when he left Jayce. And with every choice that is more close to the pursuit of glory and defying his mortality, Viktor becomes less human and loses something of Sky until there is nothing left of her. This being the final step. And the saddest thing is, Viktor will be too fargone to even remember how she cared for him and how he cared for her to even mourn and miss Sky, and Sky knows it.
This!!!! Sadly, we didn't have more backstory for them besides they were childhood friends and also worked together in the lab, and probably went together to the academy. So yes... He cared for her and her death was devastated for him. He really missed her and saw her as the representation of "goodness" 🥺
I firmly believe this version of Sky was just Viktor's subconscious, his last tether to humanity. And with him transforming she disappeared. That's why she said, "No you won't" because he's essentially destroying that part of himself.
in an interview, it was stated that sky actually represented the hexcore, and it said that cuz it finally completed its objective of the glorius evolution
This scene always gives me a pit in my stomach. Even just thinking about it does. Honestly the most depressing scene besides the end of ep 3 from season 1
Viktor had magic and science on his side and he gave up so fast. It's kinda wild his last act before his evolution was the most human and inhuman of all. Chaos and order. All these memories held energy (Sky, Vander, etc.) but had no means to quantify and apply it to a tangible change to better humankind.
THE SCENE HURTS BECAUSE THERES SO MUCH LEFT TO INTERPRETATION!!! It's obvious these two care for each other but we didn't get enough screen time with them 😭... there's a theory that Sky's life force was transferred into Orianna, but Christan Linke and Amanda seem to have different interpretation of Sky's character. Christian says that Sky's actually the hexcore, but Amanda (the creator of Sky) says that Sky's Viktor's humanity... the Orianna theory would be pretty interesting and with Viktor's new game skins/lines it would be interesting if they'll bring her back! Because Sky is literally the most tragic character in the series! All she wanted to do was walk home with Viktor and talk about her research 😭🩵!
Take a seat But I'd Rather you not be here for What could be My final form Stay your pretty eyes on course (Also the sounds before the sing starts renind me of Hometown)
why is nobody talking about Sky? She died but is that Viktor's imagination of her or is it her soul in the arcane world? and what happens to her when Singed combines the apex hextech and apex shimmer? does she go away because viktor's emotions are gone or her soul is seperated because singed uses her to give life to orianna's body??? someone please answer
I was talking to some friends before about bad writing, and that if multiple people have different interpretations of what’s happening then that’s not a good sign. It doesn’t always mean the writing is complex, but more so it’s missing things. They kinda had to jam and rush things since Netflix basically said this is it- But there’s a lot of holes in season 2 and a lot of people are spouting out a lot of things as fact when the truth is- it just isn’t clear. People keep saying that Ekko went to an alternate dimension even though that doesn’t make sense, because no character with that knowledge ever bluntly says that- Ekko says “I feel like I woke up in another universe” but he doesn’t know that for a fact, he was being dramatic. Heimer, a character with better knowledge of magic, says- “The anomaly that dislodged us from our reality also scattered us across time.” He isn’t sure, but that’s a more reliable source. So it pushed them out of time AND to another dimension? That makes no sense. Jayce goes directly into the future, that’s not a question or a doubt. He literally ends up in the same location and position in the last episode, the only difference is that Ekko is there to make a save. Viktor, the guy who literally knows everything says “In all TIMELINES, in all possibilities” There’s more evidence pointing towards time travel rather than another universe. People can’t seem to decide if Sky is really there, if she’s just a manifestation of Viktors humanity and feelings. Ambessa gives a whole speech about “this ain’t about revenge, these mages are an affront to noxian culture” And then has no problem working with Viktor, a mage who’s making her a magic immortal army. Jayce is spazzed out when he returns, but we saw that before he was even sent back he wasn’t like that- So he’s literally spazzing in episode 6 only because it causes tension. Jinx didn’t have to tackle ww off the platform, nor was she ever that strong against him on their previous fight- She only did it, she only fell off that platform to make the audience sad. Idk if you can tell yet but a lot of the holes are basically just in act 3. I’m not even gonna get started with the sheer stupidity and inconsistency of how Mel and her powers were handled and how Ambessa basically got shafted. Ambessa dying isn’t a plot hole- it was just really dumb how it was handled.
Some things were rushed, others didn't make a whole lot of sense, but things being open to interpretation doesn't equal bad writing. Audiences are so used to being spoodfed information in storytelling that a ton of people missed obvious tells in this show and then went raging onto twitter about how a ton of things made no sense even though everything you need to know was on screen. I'm not sure why you are so hung up on the distinction between timelines, dimensions or universes when they all pretty much boil down to the same thing: alternate realities. And yes, it DID push them itno a different time AND reality. Heimerdinger arrived in the other reality three years before Ekko popped in. Jinx didn't have to tackle WW off the platform? It was the only way to have her sister. She didn't have the strength? Jinx has super speed, and if I payed enough attetion in physics classes it's velocity + mass = force. I guess with enough force applied she could push him off the platform. Why was she weak against him before? She still is! She just managed to topple himn, big whoop. She never went in close in their previous fight. Why would she? When else in this show was it shown that she's a close range fighter? She always chose to fight with weapons and gadgets on a distance vs getting in close. So there. If you want to pick a better example for bad writing just for the sake of making people feel sad, take the scene with Isha's sacrifice. Where was Jinx's speed here? She watches Isha as she jumps in to blow up Warwick and runs in normal speed towards here. THAT made no sense. But yes, S2 was not flawless (S1 pretty much was). It had leaps in logic. Character motivation going all over the place. But it was still pretty damn great.
@@Nightflash28 I think jinx's super speed in arcane is not a passive like in league. its like an adrenaline response. this explains how she used it while fighting vi or when toppling Warwick but still does not clear isha's sacrifice. my theory is that at that time she was just overloaded with stuff going on, Warwick ( vander ) basically crying while being killed, I gusse watching isha run towards Warwick really made her zone out or something I dont Know
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Harsh "no, you wont" hits hard
she told him'' youre gay''
Yep, Sky knows he won't since he took this path of abandoning emotions to focus on efficiency, growth and absence of strife.
I like how everyone thought this manifestation of Sky was the Arcane or Void deceiving Viktor and is evil, when in reality this manifestation was either Sky's consciousness in the Arcane or just a subconscious aspect of Viktor, ultimately representing his humanity and is genuinely good.
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@@fighder2me too, I was one of those who assumed that her presence was artificially made by the Arcane/void. This last statement confirms that she was neither, but a mirror to Viktor's conscience.
Notice how Sky said “No, you won’t.” Because she knew the man she loved wasn’t there anymore. She didn’t try to talk Viktor out of what he was becoming because she knew it was too late but still wanted to be by his side til the end. I’m sure she’d be happy to know Viktor comes back to the light.
Not really, it was because he was gonna lose all emotion after the transformation
@@noxustdsthat’s literally the same thing. Being emotionless is the same as the man she loved not being there anymore. Sky loved Viktor for his passion, dedication, and work. All this is gone when Viktor pursues the arcane.
i felt like she was giving him a second chance… but his response was very robotic/ or too focus on his work like in part 1… Hence why she said he won’t, since he’s is too obsessed with passion instead of love for Sky.
@ I don’t think it was “passion” more like corruption and domination
Kinda crazy u gave an in depth explanation to a character who has become either just a figment of viktor’s imagination or a ghost
This song in this scene is simply perfect, I can't stop watching it.
Twentyonepilots reach you
This is what I like to describe as "terrifyingly beautiful"
Literally the Sublime.
1:07 This part is so sad
This is the death of what made Vander Vander: his memories
love the song... this season has a lot of heartbreak tho...
the line by twenty one pilots ❤️🩹
@@blurryscaledandicy5511it's nice of Riot to promote these small indie bands.
It is honestly amazing sometimes the way they manage to give a scene such a level of impact with so little actual character vocal lines involved, just using the music and the visuals. This is one of my favourite scenes in the entire show just because of how beautifully haunting it is.
ik it’s simultaneously tragic and transcendental … like you’re appreciating what viktor is trying to achieve while simultaneously mourning his humanity … what’s the point of perfection if nobody can appreciate it?
I dont think some people noticed but the "mask" he has is actually not one and more like what was inside ripped the head open
Totally agree man, if you really look closely, Viktor's real face under that mask has this weird spacing that makes it look distorted, and come to think of it, the only "human component" remaining in Viktor before the Glorious Evolution was his head, which obviously contains his brain (his thoughts, emotions, and memories). I think Fortiche made it look like the Hexcore entity is emerging from his head, seemingly fighting over the control of Viktor's thoughts.
It’s a brilliant design that modernizes him to fit arcane’s story while also paying homage to his original league design.
@@Microplasticindulger Really love the halo design on his head, it gives him that saintly/godly vibe.
@@rafaelbojador823 agreed
With hindsight, I truly think Sky was meant to be a symbol of Viktor's humanity and that she probably meant a lot more to Viktor than we initially think. If she didn't, I just don't think he would have taken her notes with him when he left Jayce. And with every choice that is more close to the pursuit of glory and defying his mortality, Viktor becomes less human and loses something of Sky until there is nothing left of her. This being the final step. And the saddest thing is, Viktor will be too fargone to even remember how she cared for him and how he cared for her to even mourn and miss Sky, and Sky knows it.
This!!!!
Sadly, we didn't have more backstory for them besides they were childhood friends and also worked together in the lab, and probably went together to the academy. So yes... He cared for her and her death was devastated for him. He really missed her and saw her as the representation of "goodness" 🥺
Love how everyone was wondering when Viktor was gonna put the mask on his face.
Never. More like the mask is wearing Viktor's face
Ms Young is the lamb, Viktor choosing to defy death(healing his body) and her final words suggests the Wolf is on the hunt
the lamb is gone, and viktor basically became the wolf, look at his mask 2:37
@@boogerking2185 kinda similar to Kindred
cool theory, would you like to back it up a little more?
I firmly believe this version of Sky was just Viktor's subconscious, his last tether to humanity. And with him transforming she disappeared. That's why she said, "No you won't" because he's essentially destroying that part of himself.
in an interview, it was stated that sky actually represented the hexcore, and it said that cuz it finally completed its objective of the glorius evolution
The Music with this scene is perfect lyrics
This show the producers did soooo good putting the songs together with each scenes making them fit so well
Thank you for uploading. Such a beautiful scene and song
This scene always gives me a pit in my stomach. Even just thinking about it does. Honestly the most depressing scene besides the end of ep 3 from season 1
deny death .... and you deny life itself
This song suits both Wander and Viktor, so good.
Skye disappearing
Vanders memories fading
The music
Everyone of the commune rising and transforming Equal parts beautiful and heartbreaking
At 0:31 where it looks like Skye almost cried just gets me. This show is so perfect
1:07 this is the part where Vander dies.
But the Beast's husk remains.
THE MUSIC !!!! Ouf it makes my heart beat
스카이 손 놓아질 때 빅토르의 두 손 모습이 되게 슬픔..
Viktor had magic and science on his side and he gave up so fast. It's kinda wild his last act before his evolution was the most human and inhuman of all. Chaos and order. All these memories held energy (Sky, Vander, etc.) but had no means to quantify and apply it to a tangible change to better humankind.
THE SCENE HURTS BECAUSE THERES SO MUCH LEFT TO INTERPRETATION!!! It's obvious these two care for each other but we didn't get enough screen time with them 😭... there's a theory that Sky's life force was transferred into Orianna, but Christan Linke and Amanda seem to have different interpretation of Sky's character. Christian says that Sky's actually the hexcore, but Amanda (the creator of Sky) says that Sky's Viktor's humanity... the Orianna theory would be pretty interesting and with Viktor's new game skins/lines it would be interesting if they'll bring her back! Because Sky is literally the most tragic character in the series! All she wanted to do was walk home with Viktor and talk about her research 😭🩵!
Twentypne Pilots cooked🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I suddenly remembered Lord of the Mysteries. It's very much in the spirit of the hero's transformation into something chthonic.
Take a seat
But I'd
Rather you not be here for
What could be
My final form
Stay your pretty eyes on course
(Also the sounds before the sing starts renind me of Hometown)
0:03 GRIFFITHHHHHHHHHHHH
Victor even said line similar to Griffith, that Jayce is the only one who made him forget his dream
lmao
why is nobody talking about Sky? She died but is that Viktor's imagination of her or is it her soul in the arcane world? and what happens to her when Singed combines the apex hextech and apex shimmer? does she go away because viktor's emotions are gone or her soul is seperated because singed uses her to give life to orianna's body??? someone please answer
How many times did they kill Vander in this show
4 times: s1 e3, s2 e6, s2 e8 (this scene), s2 e9
One of the best
vanders memories fading is tuff
You can tell she was disappointed in him, i hate how he joined with Ambessa but the scene is stunning
i dont get it why did she vanish? shes part of hexcore/viktor after all and singed just added some drugs, so why did she vanish?
poor vander :(
When you cross the line:
Beautiful
What is the point of he changing his face from human to whatever that is?
vander deserved better
The end has to be referencing kindred right? I mean he split himself in two
I was talking to some friends before about bad writing, and that if multiple people have different interpretations of what’s happening then that’s not a good sign. It doesn’t always mean the writing is complex, but more so it’s missing things.
They kinda had to jam and rush things since Netflix basically said this is it-
But there’s a lot of holes in season 2 and a lot of people are spouting out a lot of things as fact when the truth is- it just isn’t clear.
People keep saying that Ekko went to an alternate dimension even though that doesn’t make sense, because no character with that knowledge ever bluntly says that-
Ekko says
“I feel like I woke up in another universe” but he doesn’t know that for a fact, he was being dramatic.
Heimer, a character with better knowledge of magic, says-
“The anomaly that dislodged us from our reality also scattered us across time.”
He isn’t sure, but that’s a more reliable source.
So it pushed them out of time AND to another dimension? That makes no sense.
Jayce goes directly into the future, that’s not a question or a doubt. He literally ends up in the same location and position in the last episode, the only difference is that Ekko is there to make a save.
Viktor, the guy who literally knows everything says
“In all TIMELINES, in all possibilities”
There’s more evidence pointing towards time travel rather than another universe.
People can’t seem to decide if Sky is really there, if she’s just a manifestation of Viktors humanity and feelings.
Ambessa gives a whole speech about “this ain’t about revenge, these mages are an affront to noxian culture”
And then has no problem working with Viktor, a mage who’s making her a magic immortal army.
Jayce is spazzed out when he returns, but we saw that before he was even sent back he wasn’t like that-
So he’s literally spazzing in episode 6 only because it causes tension.
Jinx didn’t have to tackle ww off the platform, nor was she ever that strong against him on their previous fight-
She only did it, she only fell off that platform to make the audience sad.
Idk if you can tell yet but a lot of the holes are basically just in act 3.
I’m not even gonna get started with the sheer stupidity and inconsistency of how Mel and her powers were handled and how Ambessa basically got shafted.
Ambessa dying isn’t a plot hole- it was just really dumb how it was handled.
Some things were rushed, others didn't make a whole lot of sense, but things being open to interpretation doesn't equal bad writing. Audiences are so used to being spoodfed information in storytelling that a ton of people missed obvious tells in this show and then went raging onto twitter about how a ton of things made no sense even though everything you need to know was on screen.
I'm not sure why you are so hung up on the distinction between timelines, dimensions or universes when they all pretty much boil down to the same thing: alternate realities. And yes, it DID push them itno a different time AND reality. Heimerdinger arrived in the other reality three years before Ekko popped in.
Jinx didn't have to tackle WW off the platform? It was the only way to have her sister. She didn't have the strength? Jinx has super speed, and if I payed enough attetion in physics classes it's velocity + mass = force. I guess with enough force applied she could push him off the platform. Why was she weak against him before? She still is! She just managed to topple himn, big whoop. She never went in close in their previous fight. Why would she? When else in this show was it shown that she's a close range fighter? She always chose to fight with weapons and gadgets on a distance vs getting in close.
So there.
If you want to pick a better example for bad writing just for the sake of making people feel sad, take the scene with Isha's sacrifice. Where was Jinx's speed here? She watches Isha as she jumps in to blow up Warwick and runs in normal speed towards here. THAT made no sense.
But yes, S2 was not flawless (S1 pretty much was). It had leaps in logic. Character motivation going all over the place. But it was still pretty damn great.
@@Nightflash28 I think jinx's super speed in arcane is not a passive like in league. its like an adrenaline response. this explains how she used it while fighting vi or when toppling Warwick but still does not clear isha's sacrifice. my theory is that at that time she was just overloaded with stuff going on, Warwick ( vander ) basically crying while being killed, I gusse watching isha run towards Warwick really made her zone out or something I dont Know