I play that sort of Hybrid POV for Helldivers. 3rd person helps me have sittuational awareness when im moving throughout a mission, but when i need that accuracy, aiming and my scope/weqpon sight popping up helps
They also dont have to dial in the intense detail on everything in third person. In first person you look at the grass and want it to look like grass. In third person its 15 feet away from the camera who cares as long as the overall image looks good. More resources in development and less strain on hardware
Helldivers gets it right with the primary focus on third person, with the option to let you switch to first person aiming to land more precise shots. RDR2 and GTAV’s options to switch between first and third at will was also brilliant. Even going back to something like Rainbow Six Vegas, a first person shooter that still understood that a third person perspective can make for a superior in-the-moment experience
RSV's third-person was to get the casual gamers who can't handle a challenging game. It was simply for looking around corners and over objects without being vulnerable.
For me personally, there are times where I forget I'm playing a game when its first person. Like its me in the game which adds to the immersion. In third person it always feel like I'm playing a character. Also gunplay always feels better in first person to me. There's no way anyone on this planet can convince Destiny (STILL has the best gunplay on the market) would be better in third person. However each perspective has its place. I can't imagine not being able to turn the camera around to see the explosion while I'm running away from a stratagem I just threw.
See i'm the opposite. I get bored in first person watching a gun bounce on my screen for an entire game. I enjoy the talent that it takes to create immersive 3rd person gameplay.
I can't wait to get my hands on this game. It seems like they took inspiration from Max Payne 3 which has been regarded as one of the best 3rd person shooters.
Immersion. War game. Check. Stealth is a true mechanic and even your uniform layout keeps you laying in a puddle as they walk right on by... Everything simple basic mandatory weapons mod there right away while in game. No stupid grind of entire armory just to get a flip down bipod.
3rd person games all the way. They can add 1st person option if they have too I suppose 🤷 but nah. 3rd person always better. And you get to see your character and clothing etc. And if it's a girl character your playing, that booty LOL haha 😅
@GmoneyMozart That's why when I got wildlands when it came out and breakpoint, I always played as a female character, much rather stare at a girl booty in tight tactical pants LOL. It's just a better gaming prospective to play in.
Did not like it due to the grind and less xp. I was doing more of the effort while other players just ran to the missions rather than getting the other challenges.
3rd person has always been superior. I am an advocate for options, so If someone wants to play in 1st person they should be able to do so. It's just not the way.
I absolutely love hell divers 2 I’m having a blast. But I think the most superior perspective of a game is how pubg is. 3rd person with the ability to seamlessly transition to first and back and forth. The next ghost recon needs to copy how pubg did it. The gun play is number 1 reason that game blew up.
Damn I just got own so hard by the bots the game crashed to desktop lol. How do you even do Automatons at extreme? I can't imagine bots on Helldiver... TBH the quality and good design of the game extend beyond just viewpoint tho. Regardless, third person is done really right in this game.
"...like you're watching a freaking movie." Yes, exactly. You prefer to watch games; I prefer to play games. You want to look at a hero; I want to be a hero. I use a wider FOV than that, in first-person. Most of the best selling games are in first-person. Your inability to accept reality is not proof that it isn't real. Third-person games need to add a first-person view, but first-person games don't need to add a third-person view. TP games need to make the enemies weak, especially when there are indoor areas where your avatar is visible long before your camera enters the room. Dang, it's not easy enough that you can look around objects without exposing yourself; they also need to make the AI slow. All of the best TP games could work in FP, but not all of the best FP games could work in TP. Do you see how silly that movement looks, even when you're not running into objects because of the disconnection from the avatar?
People who claim to feel 'total immersion' and 'forget they're not really there' all just have early onset dementia. It's not good to have dissociation from the real world my dude.
Not exactly, it's cause the game is fun if there was a mechanic that doesn't need to be there they didn't add it in ; no pay to win microtransactions, just pure unadulterated fun like the old days when games were good
3rd person is always best for me! But all shooters should give the o po ton for both views just like Helldivers 2 does. You can still aim in 1st person, but the running , picking up items, melee kills, crawling, crouching etc is much better! Especially seeing all your armors and helmets you can choose! It also highlights just how much bigger some of these bugs and robots are over you! After playing Helldivers 2, makes me sad regarding the news about Respawn's Mandalorian game they are working on. This would be the perfect view and formula for a Mandalorian game, with 3rd person view, different armor sets and helmets, with numerous weapons and gadgets to choose from yet they decided to make it an FPS shooter smh
"Real reason" - it's not a dull microtransaction based game that isn't trying to gut us of our money with a fun gameplay loop that isn't Far Cry 3 clone #48394951? Yeah it's definitely the third person...
Lets not forget the beautiful maps and ambience this game has to compliment the third person view.
I play that sort of Hybrid POV for Helldivers. 3rd person helps me have sittuational awareness when im moving throughout a mission, but when i need that accuracy, aiming and my scope/weqpon sight popping up helps
This studio needs to be hired by games workshop and mr caville
4:53 lol. "is he behind me?"
dude that shit was so funny lol
They also dont have to dial in the intense detail on everything in third person. In first person you look at the grass and want it to look like grass. In third person its 15 feet away from the camera who cares as long as the overall image looks good. More resources in development and less strain on hardware
I loved the way the recent Ghost Recons have done view points. Walking around 3rd person. ADSing is swap on the fly from 3rd or 1st.
ya ubi really nailed the breakpoint controls and view.
Helldivers gets it right with the primary focus on third person, with the option to let you switch to first person aiming to land more precise shots.
RDR2 and GTAV’s options to switch between first and third at will was also brilliant.
Even going back to something like Rainbow Six Vegas, a first person shooter that still understood that a third person perspective can make for a superior in-the-moment experience
RSV's third-person was to get the casual gamers who can't handle a challenging game. It was simply for looking around corners and over objects without being vulnerable.
@@Go_CoupFirst person in cover-based shooters is absolute aids
@@Lehanna , "cover systems" in games are horrible. First-person plus leaning is great.
For me personally, there are times where I forget I'm playing a game when its first person. Like its me in the game which adds to the immersion. In third person it always feel like I'm playing a character. Also gunplay always feels better in first person to me. There's no way anyone on this planet can convince Destiny (STILL has the best gunplay on the market) would be better in third person. However each perspective has its place. I can't imagine not being able to turn the camera around to see the explosion while I'm running away from a stratagem I just threw.
See i'm the opposite. I get bored in first person watching a gun bounce on my screen for an entire game. I enjoy the talent that it takes to create immersive 3rd person gameplay.
@@GmoneyMozart yea in real life that's what you see. A gun bobbing up and down.
I like your points about 3rd person. I was hesitant at first, but it really adds more cinematic scenes, more appreciation for the setting
It's just the conclusion I've come to after years of playing games.
Open worlds with big maps caters well to third person.
Narrow corridors and stairwells in third person sucks A$$.
immersion.
the entire map you are in is complete fog of war.
ya you have to destroy whats creating it and it clears up :D
Ohhh are you saying thats what you'd want?
First person is okay. Third person is okay. Third person that switches into first person to use iron sights is raw CANCER
lol options are good but if it forces that...ya...terrible.
I can't wait to get my hands on this game. It seems like they took inspiration from Max Payne 3 which has been regarded as one of the best 3rd person shooters.
immersion.
when you aim down sight always to first person..
the audio gets louder and condenses more around your head as opposed to out in the open.
I like aiming in third though tbh.
3rd person is the way!
all the way baby!
Immersion.
War game. Check.
Stealth is a true mechanic and even your uniform layout keeps you laying in a puddle as they walk right on by...
Everything simple basic mandatory weapons mod there right away while in game. No stupid grind of entire armory just to get a flip down bipod.
3rd person games all the way. They can add 1st person option if they have too I suppose 🤷 but nah. 3rd person always better. And you get to see your character and clothing etc. And if it's a girl character your playing, that booty LOL haha 😅
Lmfao 3rd person ftw brother! No one can change it kind on that this is the superior viewpoint for gaming!
@GmoneyMozart That's why when I got wildlands when it came out and breakpoint, I always played as a female character, much rather stare at a girl booty in tight tactical pants LOL.
It's just a better gaming prospective to play in.
3rd person is far superior especially in a game like helldivers 2. It would be far superior in a soft cover open world tactical shooter as well
I want a Remake of Planetside 2 with third person. Thats the only thing that would kill this game.
preach
Is it online only? Kinda reminds me of lost planet.
4man co-op or solo or duo or trio Lmao
yes it's a war effort that everyone contributes to.
@@GmoneyMozart If it's online only then I gonna refund it lol. Just ordered the special edition.
Did not like it due to the grind and less xp. I was doing more of the effort while other players just ran to the missions rather than getting the other challenges.
the quicker u finish the main missions, the more XP u get@@Themistocles30
3rd person has always been superior. I am an advocate for options, so If someone wants to play in 1st person they should be able to do so. It's just not the way.
I absolutely love hell divers 2 I’m having a blast. But I think the most superior perspective of a game is how pubg is. 3rd person with the ability to seamlessly transition to first and back and forth. The next ghost recon needs to copy how pubg did it. The gun play is number 1 reason that game blew up.
Damn I just got own so hard by the bots the game crashed to desktop lol. How do you even do Automatons at extreme? I can't imagine bots on Helldiver...
TBH the quality and good design of the game extend beyond just viewpoint tho. Regardless, third person is done really right in this game.
"...like you're watching a freaking movie." Yes, exactly. You prefer to watch games; I prefer to play games. You want to look at a hero; I want to be a hero.
I use a wider FOV than that, in first-person.
Most of the best selling games are in first-person. Your inability to accept reality is not proof that it isn't real. Third-person games need to add a first-person view, but first-person games don't need to add a third-person view. TP games need to make the enemies weak, especially when there are indoor areas where your avatar is visible long before your camera enters the room. Dang, it's not easy enough that you can look around objects without exposing yourself; they also need to make the AI slow. All of the best TP games could work in FP, but not all of the best FP games could work in TP. Do you see how silly that movement looks, even when you're not running into objects because of the disconnection from the avatar?
you're looking a scren brah...so am I. Except my screen look cooler! hehe
People who claim to feel 'total immersion' and 'forget they're not really there' all just have early onset dementia. It's not good to have dissociation from the real world my dude.
@@Lehanna , it sounds as if you prefer third-person.
Not exactly, it's cause the game is fun if there was a mechanic that doesn't need to be there they didn't add it in ; no pay to win microtransactions, just pure unadulterated fun like the old days when games were good
FPS is far superior, Period.
Superior at being lame
First person forever lol G
Nevaaaa
3rd person is always best for me! But all shooters should give the o po ton for both views just like Helldivers 2 does. You can still aim in 1st person, but the running , picking up items, melee kills, crawling, crouching etc is much better! Especially seeing all your armors and helmets you can choose! It also highlights just how much bigger some of these bugs and robots are over you! After playing Helldivers 2, makes me sad regarding the news about Respawn's Mandalorian game they are working on. This would be the perfect view and formula for a Mandalorian game, with 3rd person view, different armor sets and helmets, with numerous weapons and gadgets to choose from yet they decided to make it an FPS shooter smh
"Real reason" - it's not a dull microtransaction based game that isn't trying to gut us of our money with a fun gameplay loop that isn't Far Cry 3 clone #48394951?
Yeah it's definitely the third person...