I photographed extensively around Cricklewood and Dudding Hill Jct in '85/'86 and in those days signalbox access was very easy if you asked. Tremendous motive power back then too. Thanks for the memory 😊
Fantastic to see this. We started going to Temple Mills from Didcot in 1966 when diesel became the norm. We learned the roads all around Stratford to Gospel Oak, Primrose hill etc. taking in Stratford loco and Freightliner depots right up until the 90's and lost most of the work when BR was privatised. This is the first time I have seen the Hump Yard area since then and was surprised to see that there is still a fair bit of railway around in spite of the massive changes. For a time we also worked household coal trains too and from Bow sidings. I also remember when there was four lines between South Tottenham and Copper mill junction and the lines below the Chingford over bridge bridge were interlaced. Happy memories.
I enjoyed this video very much. I lived in Bush Hill Park 40's to mid 50's and travelled on the summer excursions to Southend and Clacton using the Seven Sisters Chord to Stratford. One day with an N7 with 10 coaches stalled coming back on this tight bank and had to be pushed up to Seven Sisters. This was an extra relief excursion as the booked train was full at Enfield Town so a relief was hurriedly assembled to cater for the intermediate passengers trying to join. I remember the very tight curves around Stratford with the wheels screeching loudly as we made our way to Southend Victoria arriving before the booked excursion which went via Upminster to Southend Central and was caught up in an incident which held it up for a couple of hours. Happy days!
Interesting to hear about this. There is a video on TH-cam showing the Seven Sisterd chord with regular passenger traffic. In those days the chord was double track. I'll try and find it and post it on this thread.
@@ds1868 Thank you for your comment. Yes the chord was double track and this was used for the regular Clacton and Southend Summer Saturdays plus Southend Illuminations and Sunday & Bank holiday excursions. There was also a daily pick- up freight from Temple MIlls to the various goods yards on the Enfield Town line. The freight was usually hauled by a J15/J19/J39 class and arrived at Bush Hill Park lunchtimes.
@@petersmith4058I have tried to post the video but it keeps on being deleted. If you look up North Woolwich to Palace Gates 1960 it should come up. The seven sisters chord is about 5 minutes 40 seconds in.
Really enjoyed that.. Thanks for posting. Use the Lea Valley line a lot both to Stratford and Liverpool Street, wow did they send you around the houses.. Also grew up around Seven Sisters not old enough too remember the Palace Gates line but could see where it had been..
My old patch hackney downs to Chingford, Enfield, broxbourne, Stratford. Used to go up seven sisters box regularly to drop off the WON . Happy days . Happy new year ! Before the M11 link road and the Olympic mess , Stratford and around the mills in general was a truly epic configuration of railway, for freight moves, light engine , passenger you name it . You get to anywhere .Temple mills East used to have a physical connection known as Loughton junction which was in Leyton depot yard which allowed the steam freight and passenger workings down to Epping along the eastbound central line , which included DMU staff trains to and from Stratford . All 30A depot on loan to LT . When I started on the railway in the early 90’s , my supervisor was Gordon scrivener who started out as a passed cleaner then fireman then driver at Stratford . Characters I’ve met when I was on the patch you couldn’t make up .
Very enjoyable chit-chat and some new views of places I barely know. Lovely stuff. Pretty sure I recall Thunderer from my youth, probably at Reading or Padders... less certain about that big orange disc in the sky though.
Love the conversation in cab, took me back to my Ripple Lane second manning days.Worked over all those lines.in BR days.Great seeing how locations have changed. Footnote.Also was a signalman at South Tottenham (before joining footplate), interesting that it still appears to function?
South Tottenham SB still going strong 💪 Upper Holloway still in as well. Harringay Park Jnc SB went a few years back, and a couple years earlier Gospel Oak went! Have seen pictures of Junction Road Junction Signal Box, but that had long gone by the time I started going over that bit of railway.
Now I've learnt how clear-headed and focused you need to be to do your job !! ❤ B T W Love the railway modelling and your high standards of workmanship 😊 ❤ !!
Nice video Nigel of my all time number 1 favourite loco. A long time since I first had her for haulage between Plymouth and Penzance in the early 80's. Definitely lived up to her name.
When the opportunity came my way to learn the 50 I was a bit nonplussed by it. Although, after only a couple of trips driving it I was hooked and couldn't wait to get on it again 😍
Great video... not sure why it stood out to me, to watch that is... Until the video passed by Coppermill Lane, which was part of my playground as a kid (Late 60's, early 70's), living over the over side of the River Lea, through Springfield Park, and up into Fawcett Estate. Back in my day, there was the underpass (under the railway), and also a level crossing too, which is where I would watch the trains 😊
That was a nice trip around lines I have not traversed before. It made my day when you took the route from Junction Road to Carlton Road and the Midland main line at Kentish Town. The last time I worked there was 1993 commisioning the new signalling after the relay room fire at Kentish town. We spent a few nights walking through the tunnels up to Junction Road to test the signals after the re-wiring when somebody lit a fire outside the relay room at Kentish Town and destroyed a lot of the equipment which resulted in trains being hand signalled in and out of St Pancras. The Nottingham S&T lads got all the best jobs😂 I had to reach for Joe Brown's London Rail Atlas so I didn't get lost 👍
I thought I knew what you were going to do but didn't know you had a booked stop at Stratford or what was to come, so the loop back onto the Lea Valley was most intriguing. Going down to Carlton Rd was a nice surprise too! Really enjoyed this (and the chat, not inane at all!) - thanks for posting.
Awsome video loved it . Never knew hidden tracks of London. Living in East london since 1984 traveled many diff. overground trains but still learned more. I use to travel from Northwoolwich to Harlesdon via Stratford ( tha platform warm was on ground leval While centreal line and other overground on higher leval . Also traveled from Broadstreet (which was next to Liverpool street main line staion ) Station which platforms were on higher ground to Wembley central by overground train. Also traveled from Leyton to Ongar using central line too. I remembered Temple mill Depot and yard . Use to Our Customs and Excise office down there.
Just subscribed to your channel what a wonderful ride an the way you explained the route happy Christmas and new year look forward to more videos kindest regards Paul in Kent 😊
Loving the passing under the Chingford line, my commute for many years, and also passing through Coppermill. Growing up in Walthamstow, used to love it when we would take a walk or drive down Coppermill lane and do some train spotting at the level crossing, hopefully a class 37 driven Cambridge service! I so miss engine driven services. Coppermill had (Has?) A level crossing as the road under is only about 5ft high. My neighbour nearly killed himself riding a bike underneath and nearly took the top of his head off. He was ok after a hospital stay. 😊
When I was a Guard in the 80s I was on a Class 310 driver training / route learning trip on this route ! It started at Stratford in the old platforms 12 and 13 ? Next to the loco depot , past the nearly derelict Temple Mills freight yard , through Lea Bridge ( then a closed station and an abandoned parcel's depot ) towards the South Tottenham curve . The line was only 2 tracks then not 3 . through South Tottenham station over the crossover and around the curve to Seven Sisters station , then across another crossover into the down platform at Seven Sisters ! Stop , then all stations to Broxbourne .Then back to Stratford via the same route x 4 or 5 trips . I had it for the whole week . Then a couple of weeks later again for a whole week ! Damn easy money !I just sat there reading a book or a newspaper ! Then getting up from the seat to do the bells at each station ! The first day on it ,I got so fed up with people trying do board at stations despite NOT IN SERVICE being on the front I locked all the doors and closed the windows ,before the train left Stratford .
Late 80's starter so was in the Trainmen concept. I was D but had to learn all the conductor guards jobs and regularly covered their shifts. Like you I read books and papers and tried to keep well away from fare paying passengers 😂😂👍👍
Very probably! Nigel Walls aka Gilbert Slug nick name courtesy of Mark Adams 🙃 Was in the gang with Andy Ashton, Micky Wilson and Neil Wisbech to name but a few....
Very interesting tour around north London. The Anglia part of the infrastructure seems to be kept reasonably tidy. Nice to see a 37 greeting us at Temple Mills!
@@markcf83 Yep, the West London Orbital. I just looked up when Dudding Hill Station closed. 1902 apparently! Well before Beeching was born. No regular passenger traffic since that time, but apparently it is still authorised for passenger services and some railtours use it and there are some empty stock movements. The line seems closed at the moment according to Real Time Trains, presumably because of all the work on the Thameslink line (No traffic until 29th). On the 20th Dec, there were more than 50 trains scheduled over the route in 24 hours. Only two slots seem to have been cancelled.
@@apc108Thameslink trains out of London were stopped because of bridge replacement work on the bridge that carries the Camden Road over the main line.
@@markcf83 And also the underpass installation under the line for the Radlett Strategic Freight Terminal. There was basically a complete break in the embankment for a few days. It's seems all done now and ready for trains tomorrow. There is some excellent drone footage on TH-cam from Wandering Northerner of the Agar Grove and Radlett sites, since work began on the 21st. Also, cuemaster, who had a drone at Agar Grove.
Eurostar is the remant of what was the massive stratford works and temple mills marshalling yards The site of straford works is now covered by East Village, the former olympic athletes village
Judging by the sun's position as you travelled through Lea Bridge station, this has to have been taken in the late evening early to mid-summer. Not having experienced a cab-ride on the Lea Valley line or the lines around Stratford, you selected an ideal snippet for TH-cam to 'recommend' for my entertainment. The link from NL to MML was an agreeable extra.
We use to shunt at channelsea and temple Mills, Stratford Market,popular docks brings back memories after Startford MPD I moved to ripple Lane mpd and really didn't see much of Startford after that.
Crikey that area around Stratord Station has changed a lot since the 80s . There was a engineers yard on the left at temple Mills east junction ,called Leyton yard ! The bit where the tunnel was had a freight yard/ container terminal there and a loco depot . When we went from Temple Mills through Stratford station and around the Channelsea curve and going back to Temple Mills ,without reversing ( you could go in either direction ) we called it " Going around the houses ! ). There were no high buildings there . Any building on the inside of the complete circle were all railway buildings / property / land . No Docklands light railway on the left ! ( Where does that come and go to ! ) The Eurostar depot was a nearly out of use freight yard ( Temple Mills ) . Lea Bridge was closed . Just a former abandoned parcels depot !
The DLR goes underneath pretty much everything and ends up in what was the Low Level platforms to North Woolwich. Still goes in that direction but not all the way
The Dudding Hill section is fascinating. Several connections, clearly a very useful linking route. And semaphore singalling too! Still, maybe it could do a bit better than 10 mph.
Yep 10 mph is a bit carp! But with the planned upgrade to an overground London orbital route, one hopes the speed gets upped! Although an upgrade would probably mean the end of the semaphores 🥲
Great to see the DLR train on its way to International station, and how the overhead zig zags from side to side on straight track. Yes to that part of Stratford station previously being served by trains on the route to Epping, Ongar and the Hainault loop. Whilst I do not expect high speeds I was disappointed to see so many slow speed limits. It was painful to see the train crawling along the empty Dudding Hill line.
I am from Whitehaven in Cumbria. so for cab rides I have been from Carlisle to Newcastle & back. Carlisle to Manchester & back barrow to Carlisle & back yes doing these cab rides I like them
Nice of you to test all of the crossovers in North London for Network Rail Nigel! Some snug fits there for a class 50. Not much opening of the throttle but an interesting look at the network of tunnels and bravery of the graffiti artists. Interesting to hear your commentary and knowledge of the lines, also the turbos of the 50 and DMU-like horns. Are you still on the test trains or on the railtour circuit? Darren
What´s the animal at 4:49? Not surprised it takes 1 hour+ going at 10 mph around corners! Seeing all these lines you just realise how important the London docks were & the supply routes out. No doubt they played a big role in WW2
what i like about these cab rides is when you see railway junction's and can't workout which lines they join onto which is what i have alway's wondered by watching these video's you get to find out.
You surprised that fox snoozing between the rails. It had a quick wake-up call to exit stage left into the trackside foliage at 1:26 as you were pulling around the curve out of Seven Sisters!
@@Wallsrail My apologies I did not realise doh ! Nice to hear the 50 open its throat occasionally though. I remember doing some of it on a Mystex (remember them) From Nottingham to Clacton I think it was and we went around the loop behind SF depot that was back in the 1970's !
Nice story towards the end about the 31 needing to be pushed by the 81 (if I heard it correctly). I can't imagine it was a Hoover that needed 'banking' anyway.
What a brilliant ride around North London, lots of bits of track that I still need, should have been on that railtour. What was the bit of track at 1.04.55 on the right hand side I haven't got that on the latest baker Rail Atlas? thanks.
I know! It's changed to beyond recognition over my 35 years service! Although in small increments you don't notice unless you haven't seen it for a decade or so...
No 😞 Limited by Camera memory and battery power! I have or plan to get the rest of what this tour covered in other videos compiled on different days and trips 👍
I photographed extensively around Cricklewood and Dudding Hill Jct in '85/'86 and in those days signalbox access was very easy if you asked. Tremendous motive power back then too. Thanks for the memory 😊
Very inte3resting to play along with Joe Brown's London Railway Atlas as it shows all the closed stations & depots & any lifted tracks
The London rail network is like a spiders web. A fascinating video. Thanks for posting.
Especially with all the chords and curves for freights and engineering diversions etc
London is very served by railway lines
Fantastic to see this. We started going to Temple Mills from Didcot in 1966 when diesel became the norm. We learned the roads all around Stratford to Gospel Oak, Primrose hill etc. taking in Stratford loco and Freightliner depots right up until the 90's and lost most of the work when BR was privatised. This is the first time I have seen the Hump Yard area since then and was surprised to see that there is still a fair bit of railway around in spite of the massive changes. For a time we also worked household coal trains too and from Bow sidings. I also remember when there was four lines between South Tottenham and Copper mill junction and the lines below the Chingford over bridge bridge were interlaced. Happy memories.
I enjoyed this video very much. I lived in Bush Hill Park 40's to mid 50's and travelled on the summer excursions to Southend and Clacton using the Seven Sisters Chord to Stratford. One day with an N7 with 10 coaches stalled coming back on this tight bank and had to be pushed up to Seven Sisters. This was an extra relief excursion as the booked train was full at Enfield Town so a relief was hurriedly assembled to cater for the intermediate passengers trying to join. I remember the very tight curves around Stratford with the wheels screeching loudly as we made our way to Southend Victoria arriving before the booked excursion which went via Upminster to Southend Central and was caught up in an incident which held it up for a couple of hours. Happy days!
That must have been an awesome trip!!
My dad worked on N7’s at Stratford shed as a fitter mate 👍
Interesting to hear about this. There is a video on TH-cam showing the Seven Sisterd chord with regular passenger traffic. In those days the chord was double track. I'll try and find it and post it on this thread.
@@ds1868 Thank you for your comment. Yes the chord was double track and this was used for the regular Clacton and Southend Summer Saturdays plus Southend Illuminations and Sunday & Bank holiday excursions. There was also a daily pick- up freight from Temple MIlls to the various goods yards on the Enfield Town line. The freight was usually hauled by a J15/J19/J39 class and arrived at Bush Hill Park lunchtimes.
@@ds1868 I forgot to include in my previous reply about the regular Palace Gates to North Woolwich trains.
@@petersmith4058I have tried to post the video but it keeps on being deleted. If you look up North Woolwich to Palace Gates 1960 it should come up. The seven sisters chord is about 5 minutes 40 seconds in.
need more long video's like this , showing the vastness of the rail network
Really enjoyed that.. Thanks for posting. Use the Lea Valley line a lot both to Stratford and Liverpool Street, wow did they send you around the houses.. Also grew up around Seven Sisters not old enough too remember the Palace Gates line but could see where it had been..
My old patch hackney downs to Chingford, Enfield, broxbourne, Stratford. Used to go up seven sisters box regularly to drop off the WON . Happy days . Happy new year ! Before the M11 link road and the Olympic mess , Stratford and around the mills in general was a truly epic configuration of railway, for freight moves, light engine , passenger you name it . You get to anywhere .Temple mills East used to have a physical connection known as Loughton junction which was in Leyton depot yard which allowed the steam freight and passenger workings down to Epping along the eastbound central line , which included DMU staff trains to and from Stratford . All 30A depot on loan to LT . When I started on the railway in the early 90’s , my supervisor was Gordon scrivener who started out as a passed cleaner then fireman then driver at Stratford . Characters I’ve met when I was on the patch you couldn’t make up .
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you for sharing this footage.
That was a circuitous route, thank you. Inane babble always welcome.
Certainly was. I’d love to see a route map of this. I tried following a tube/rail map and got lost!😂
Great ride with some spectacular high clouds and sunset. It sets the scene for a great evening out.
Keep up the great work too!
Very enjoyable chit-chat and some new views of places I barely know. Lovely stuff.
Pretty sure I recall Thunderer from my youth, probably at Reading or Padders... less certain about that big orange disc in the sky though.
Love the conversation in cab, took me back to my Ripple Lane second manning days.Worked over all those lines.in BR days.Great seeing how locations have changed.
Footnote.Also was a signalman at South Tottenham (before joining footplate), interesting that it still appears to function?
South Tottenham SB still going strong 💪
Upper Holloway still in as well.
Harringay Park Jnc SB went a few years back, and a couple years earlier Gospel Oak went!
Have seen pictures of Junction Road Junction Signal Box, but that had long gone by the time I started going over that bit of railway.
Now I've learnt how clear-headed and focused you need to be to do your job !! ❤
B T W Love the railway modelling and your high standards of workmanship 😊 ❤ !!
That was a magical mystery tour. A semaphore signal and old telegraph poles!
Nice video Nigel of my all time number 1 favourite loco.
A long time since I first had her for haulage between Plymouth and Penzance in the early 80's.
Definitely lived up to her name.
When the opportunity came my way to learn the 50 I was a bit nonplussed by it. Although, after only a couple of trips driving it I was hooked and couldn't wait to get on it again 😍
Wow! That's a great bit of route knowledge I've just crammed in there - thanks.
Your video is a Christmas treat. Thank you from USA. Enjoyed photography and screen notes. Happy New Year.
Fabulous video gents, thanks for sharing! For a Northerner not familiar with London's freight lines, I was amazed how much greenery there was!
brilliant, excellent footage... thought you only got curves that tight on train sets, great flange squeal ... love it
I've enjoyed every minute of this video thank you
Great video the north London lines are a complicated and confusing network but all the more interesting for that thanks.
Great video... not sure why it stood out to me, to watch that is... Until the video passed by Coppermill Lane, which was part of my playground as a kid (Late 60's, early 70's), living over the over side of the River Lea, through Springfield Park, and up into Fawcett Estate.
Back in my day, there was the underpass (under the railway), and also a level crossing too, which is where I would watch the trains 😊
That was a nice trip around lines I have not traversed before. It made my day when you took the route from Junction Road to Carlton Road and the Midland main line at Kentish Town. The last time I worked there was 1993 commisioning the new signalling after the relay room fire at Kentish town. We spent a few nights walking through the tunnels up to Junction Road to test the signals after the re-wiring when somebody lit a fire outside the relay room at Kentish Town and destroyed a lot of the equipment which resulted in trains being hand signalled in and out of St Pancras. The Nottingham S&T lads got all the best jobs😂 I had to reach for Joe Brown's London Rail Atlas so I didn't get lost 👍
I thought I knew what you were going to do but didn't know you had a booked stop at Stratford or what was to come, so the loop back onto the Lea Valley was most intriguing. Going down to Carlton Rd was a nice surprise too!
Really enjoyed this (and the chat, not inane at all!) - thanks for posting.
Hi 👋🏻 mr train man 😊 and a happy new year 🥳 That was a fantastic trip round London lines your not usually see 👍🏻 Nice seeing semaphore signals too 😊
I really enjoyed that...thanks chaps.
First time I've seen the Seven Sisters chord in use. Have subscribed!
Awsome video loved it . Never knew hidden tracks of London. Living in East london since 1984 traveled many diff. overground trains but still learned more. I use to travel from Northwoolwich to Harlesdon via Stratford ( tha platform warm was on ground leval While centreal line and other overground on higher leval . Also traveled from Broadstreet (which was next to Liverpool street main line staion ) Station which platforms were on higher ground to Wembley central by overground train. Also traveled from Leyton to Ongar using central line too. I remembered Temple mill Depot and yard . Use to Our Customs and Excise office down there.
Just subscribed to your channel what a wonderful ride an the way you explained the route happy Christmas and new year look forward to more videos kindest regards Paul in Kent 😊
loooong slow but interesting journey. you did well to keep awake, especially with him waffling away in the background lol
Wondrous. Inane babble most excellent, nothing changes.
a nice trundle around lesser routes... very nice.
I enjoyed this, thanks 👍
Was on the railtour, nice to see upfront and hear the 50008.
Loving the passing under the Chingford line, my commute for many years, and also passing through Coppermill. Growing up in Walthamstow, used to love it when we would take a walk or drive down Coppermill lane and do some train spotting at the level crossing, hopefully a class 37 driven Cambridge service! I so miss engine driven services. Coppermill had (Has?) A level crossing as the road under is only about 5ft high. My neighbour nearly killed himself riding a bike underneath and nearly took the top of his head off. He was ok after a hospital stay. 😊
Thank you indeed
When I was a Guard in the 80s I was on a Class 310 driver training / route learning trip on this route ! It started at Stratford in the old platforms 12 and 13 ? Next to the loco depot , past the nearly derelict Temple Mills freight yard , through Lea Bridge ( then a closed station and an abandoned parcel's depot ) towards the South Tottenham curve . The line was only 2 tracks then not 3 . through South Tottenham station over the crossover and around the curve to Seven Sisters station , then across another crossover into the down platform at Seven Sisters ! Stop , then all stations to Broxbourne .Then back to Stratford via the same route x 4 or 5 trips . I had it for the whole week . Then a couple of weeks later again for a whole week ! Damn easy money !I just sat there reading a book or a newspaper ! Then getting up from the seat to do the bells at each station ! The first day on it ,I got so fed up with people trying do board at stations despite NOT IN SERVICE being on the front I locked all the doors and closed the windows ,before the train left Stratford .
Late 80's starter so was in the Trainmen concept. I was D but had to learn all the conductor guards jobs and regularly covered their shifts. Like you I read books and papers and tried to keep well away from fare paying passengers 😂😂👍👍
@@Wallsrail What depot ? I was at Cambridge 84- 92 . Then Gidea Park 92-94 .Then Bournemouth -94- 2010 .
Trainman D at Cambridge
1989 - 91
Drive at Crewe
1992 - 2000
Peterborough 2000 onwards although changed company 2009
@@Wallsrail I must have known you then !
Very probably!
Nigel Walls aka Gilbert Slug nick name courtesy of Mark Adams 🙃
Was in the gang with Andy Ashton, Micky Wilson and Neil Wisbech to name but a few....
Very interesting tour around north London. The Anglia part of the infrastructure seems to be kept reasonably tidy. Nice to see a 37 greeting us at Temple Mills!
Very interesting to see these parts of London and the complexities of all the interlocking lines.
(urban foxes 1:28 and 4:48 )
Driver I agree with you, when you were held at the Red at Carlton Road, the buildings to your left would have been part of 14B Kentish Town loco.
Thanks 👍
Nice to see me at South Tottenham on the day i assume this was on 25th May as part of the Hanson Hanse Railtour?
It was indeed 👍
Good to see the route through Gladstone Park that's going to become the Western Outer Orbital Overground.
Fascinating. I hope to go down the Dudding Hill line one day, if and when they start passenger service again.
TfL is looking at exactly this. Probably won't happen this side of 2028 though.
@@markcf83 Yep, the West London Orbital. I just looked up when Dudding Hill Station closed. 1902 apparently! Well before Beeching was born. No regular passenger traffic since that time, but apparently it is still authorised for passenger services and some railtours use it and there are some empty stock movements. The line seems closed at the moment according to Real Time Trains, presumably because of all the work on the Thameslink line (No traffic until 29th). On the 20th Dec, there were more than 50 trains scheduled over the route in 24 hours. Only two slots seem to have been cancelled.
@@apc108Thameslink trains out of London were stopped because of bridge replacement work on the bridge that carries the Camden Road over the main line.
@@markcf83 And also the underpass installation under the line for the Radlett Strategic Freight Terminal. There was basically a complete break in the embankment for a few days. It's seems all done now and ready for trains tomorrow. There is some excellent drone footage on TH-cam from Wandering Northerner of the Agar Grove and Radlett sites, since work began on the 21st. Also, cuemaster, who had a drone at Agar Grove.
I'd love to see a video like this where you can also see the controls/cab instruments (maybe with a second camera and inset image).
So do I, unfortunately they don't comply with guidelines for making this sort of thing public.
Great cab ride, really enjoyable
Thank god for Joe Brown's London Railway Atlas. And thank you for a great video!
Thank you for watching
Pleasure making people happy 👍
Eurostar is the remant of what was the massive stratford works and temple mills marshalling yards
The site of straford works is now covered by East Village, the former olympic athletes village
Judging by the sun's position as you travelled through Lea Bridge station, this has to have been taken in the late evening early to mid-summer. Not having experienced a cab-ride on the Lea Valley line or the lines around Stratford, you selected an ideal snippet for TH-cam to 'recommend' for my entertainment. The link from NL to MML was an agreeable extra.
Very interesting video,many thanks for posting.
We use to shunt at channelsea and temple Mills, Stratford Market,popular docks brings back memories after Startford MPD I moved to ripple Lane mpd and really didn't see much of Startford after that.
Crikey that area around Stratord Station has changed a lot since the 80s . There was a engineers yard on the left at temple Mills east junction ,called Leyton yard ! The bit where the tunnel was had a freight yard/ container terminal there and a loco depot . When we went from Temple Mills through Stratford station and around the Channelsea curve and going back to Temple Mills ,without reversing ( you could go in either direction ) we called it " Going around the houses ! ). There were no high buildings there . Any building on the inside of the complete circle were all railway buildings / property / land . No Docklands light railway on the left ! ( Where does that come and go to ! ) The Eurostar depot was a nearly out of use freight yard ( Temple Mills ) . Lea Bridge was closed . Just a former abandoned parcels depot !
The DLR goes underneath pretty much everything and ends up in what was the Low Level platforms to North Woolwich. Still goes in that direction but not all the way
Loved the circuitous tour. Certainly made for fun following along with the 4th Ed of Joe Brown’s Railway Atlas.
Fab video, thanks. Some less frequent routes in there.
38:34 I DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE MYSELF😂 this was the day before my phone broke 😢
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
The Dudding Hill section is fascinating.
Several connections, clearly a very useful linking route.
And semaphore singalling too!
Still, maybe it could do a bit better than 10 mph.
Yep 10 mph is a bit carp!
But with the planned upgrade to an overground London orbital route, one hopes the speed gets upped!
Although an upgrade would probably mean the end of the semaphores 🥲
Great to see the DLR train on its way to International station, and how the overhead zig zags from side to side on straight track.
Yes to that part of Stratford station previously being served by trains on the route to Epping, Ongar and the Hainault loop.
Whilst I do not expect high speeds I was disappointed to see so many slow speed limits.
It was painful to see the train crawling along the empty Dudding Hill line.
I am from Whitehaven in Cumbria. so for cab rides I have been from Carlisle to Newcastle & back. Carlisle to Manchester & back barrow to Carlisle & back yes doing these cab rides I like them
Great run around London's lesser seen lines.
50 is one of the finest sounding machines on the planet at around 21:00
Nice view I'm enjoy the video 😊
Very very interesting route. 👍thank you for sharing!
Nice of you to test all of the crossovers in North London for Network Rail Nigel!
Some snug fits there for a class 50.
Not much opening of the throttle but an interesting look at the network of tunnels and bravery of the graffiti artists. Interesting to hear your commentary and knowledge of the lines, also the turbos of the 50 and DMU-like horns.
Are you still on the test trains or on the railtour circuit?
Darren
Test trains is still my day job. Work for H&H part time for charters and bits. (On average 1 day a month)
What´s the animal at 4:49? Not surprised it takes 1 hour+ going at 10 mph around corners! Seeing all these lines you just realise how important the London docks were & the supply routes out. No doubt they played a big role in WW2
I think it's a kitty 😺
The animal at 4:48 and 1:28 both appear to be urban foxes.
Just checked the NLS maps, 1946 OS shows those were the locomotive sheds at Highgate Road, off Tottenham North Curve.
what i like about these cab rides is when you see railway junction's and can't workout which lines they join onto which is what i have alway's wondered by watching these video's you get to find out.
at 15:50 looks like 1/1 scale Marklin C Track!
You surprised that fox snoozing between the rails. It had a quick wake-up call to exit stage left into the trackside foliage at 1:26 as you were pulling around the curve out of Seven Sisters!
Complex detour simply to "turn right" on to the north london line. No speed records broken either. All very enjoyable.
Could have gone double speed but my mortgage provider and boss both said not a wise idea 😂😂😂👍👍
Great trip. Nearly all done at engine-idle, just waiting to stretch her legs and gallop...
I know! Its a trade off speed n thrash or dodgey slow speed obscure freight lines
When I lived in Edmonton during 1970s & 1980s, I never knew there was a direct connection between Seven Sisters and Cricklewood!
At Ripple Lane we were nearly always on the north London line as our jobs were mostly long haul,Southampton,Swindon,Theale,Thame,michealdever,Gatwick.
At 41 minutes it appears the signal went from yellow to red in front of the train, or was that something to do with the video?
The fast lines between Carlton Road Jct and West Hampstead used to be the goods lines until West Hampstead box came into action.
I’d quite like to see the rest of this tour.
Great video but a mainly 40 mph crawl around London must have been tedious for the driver ?
It was, luckily I had company 😀
@@Wallsrail My apologies I did not realise doh ! Nice to hear the 50 open its throat occasionally though. I remember doing some of it on a Mystex (remember them) From Nottingham to Clacton I think it was and we went around the loop behind SF depot that was back in the 1970's !
got to love trains and where those lines end up
Nice story towards the end about the 31 needing to be pushed by the 81 (if I heard it correctly). I can't imagine it was a Hoover that needed 'banking' anyway.
What a brilliant ride around North London, lots of bits of track that I still need, should have been on that railtour. What was the bit of track at 1.04.55 on the right hand side I haven't got that on the latest baker Rail Atlas? thanks.
I love London
Now I see where you get the ideas for all the tight turns on your layout.
Duck n dive. Up and around back n forth! Can't beat a rabbit warren layout 😂👍😂👍
Fab video
Awesome video! What on earth is the purpose of the line on the right at 01:04:55? Doesn't look standard gauge to me, and seems to end at a wall?!
Taylors lane Gas turbine Oil power station according to google maps. Looks like they used to connect to the line at one point.
It is standard gauge, and was a spur you accessed just after Neasden Junction SB - turnout is still there at 01:03:45
Gotta love a class 50!
Me pondering just 1:20 in; _“…curve alignment for a tram…?”_ 😅
Rows and rows of new electric buses waiting to be accepted into service at Leyton garage .. and a Class 373 on the other side
The road less traveled.
What was the DRS class 37 at Temple Mills?
Steady driving btw👍
Will comment again at the end 🍿
Probably 37611 by the looks of it, now a ROG loco
Its the GE Flirt Thunderbird operated by ROG
Stratford must be close to Clapham Junction in complexity. Great video, thanks. And what are those coils on the overhead wires 28:30? Thanks.
I think they are Bird scarers of sorts?
Looks very lush & verdant in several views. Other views far from it. Great variety.
Is there a website where you can get a heads up on train movements like this please?
There probably is but I don't know what it is? I use Real Time Trains but with that one you need to which line and when to look...
I'm sure I was on this tour. We went ultimately to King's Lynn if this is right...?
Correct
I’m convinced that many years ago I somehow got a train from Stratford to Seven Sisters ( probably my imagination ) lol
There was a regular service many years ago - plus diversions when the lea valley was closed
What happened at 41.15? Signal went back in front of you. Planned I assume ?
Wasn’t explained.
It's changed since I was a secondman at Stratford MPD.
I know! It's changed to beyond recognition over my 35 years service! Although in small increments you don't notice unless you haven't seen it for a decade or so...
Is this a steam train? Is British rail always that slow??
Did you film the rest of the journey?
No 😞 Limited by Camera memory and battery power! I have or plan to get the rest of what this tour covered in other videos compiled on different days and trips 👍
My neck of the woods, GWR territory 😊
19:06 that's me on the far left