Not quite, he does say when that's the case. And most of the time, his lists are based on the mechanics and the overall teams mechanics. Which can be done without owning the character themselves.
@@timbridger4681 this list not even close if that's really based on "team mechanics" like how Childe is not quite meta while everyone know the top meta team in this game is a Childe team (basically Xiangling Bennet team but Childe variation is the strongest one compared to others)
@@pedaganglele9552 Rational outdamages in single target but international outdamages in aoe situations. So no, it's not the top meta team cause that would Raiden Hypercarry
@@averageharambelover3541 single target = Rational More than 1 enemy = International Childe will literally just get better as more characters gets released
The Raiden hotfix and primogems that was about C2 for mistranslation, it has nothing to do with Raiden and Beidou. And for Beidou, she needs to be reworked on her burst if they want her to work because it is so obvious why they don’t work, requiring to read which I know Genshin players are allergic to reading
I mean, either you give her a shield or do Charge jump cancel into another charge. Back in 1.3 or 1.4, I have been 36/36 ing with her without zhongli using the jump cancel tech since she hits like 100k per charge with a xingqiu. I would say even with the stamina cost at c0, she's still one of the best DPS in the game. maybe like top 5.
@@4ft1inAlpha I'd say that the opposite is also true for players who have played that long, some of them are pretty overly pessimistic too. There has to be a way to draw a balance in the end
If you don't mind sharing, what artifact set are you using on him? And what are the main stats you recommend for Burgeon? I really want to use my Thoma, but I have no idea how to make him work lol
@@pompaimayone of the new artifact sets in 2.3 gives a bonus to burgeon damage, try getting full EM on that set and stick him with a fav lance. Team I personally use is Thoma Fischl DMC Xingqiu. Rotation I use is Fischl E > DMC E Q > Xingqiu E Q E > Thoma E Q normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) > DMC E and normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) > Thoma normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) then repeat
There's just no way to make an accurate meta tierlist since there's so much nuance that can't really be accounted for, so they all either mislead/clickbait, or are just for entertainment factor
Mtashed is always a clown when assessing characters,. Why? Because half of those he does not even use them, nor have them, and yet the way he talks makes it as if he knows what he's talking about. Literally the third tier and below are characters he doesn't use/have, nor ever properly used them. For example, although he has Yae Miko on his alt account (barely even play on that account) he played Yae Miko in a Itto Rosaria team in the abyss lmfao, wonder why it sucked.
Yeah I noticed he rate the character he pulled higher , like he used to roast Xiao but now he rated him high since he got him and tried him well(xiao is op yes) but then giving unfair rate to childe and yea and others?.
Eula take is so based , as someone who had her at C0 and weapon , used her up to the point that i got my raiden national team running on open world. Hvnt touched her since then , in domains abyss or open world. 50% of the time is either you crit ur ult or you don't , and its funny as heck XD. But the 1 thing i learned while playing Eula was to keep track of enemies' movement. Now i am a master monster attack's predictor like I'm playing monster hunter or some shit , ill pop that ult when its about to have a huge window for burst and ill release that ult if its about to wake tf up. 5:25 Fking cum at him.
@@jlbbuena if only this works with childe 😄 I once did a 81% crit rate showcase but it did not crit ehe. How can my friend's childe with 40% CR crits more than mine(61%) fr, he's cursed 😭
So spot on with Eula experience. She is so satisfying with heavy investment x 7. A nuke is only a nuke if everything melts. Unfortunately, the cockroach always survives.
I've been waiting for eula since I started playing and I invest into the characters I love and I am prepared for her, still working on artifacts for her but I am intent on using her she just too pretty not to
Her lore & personality does it for me, though she's also very pretty!! 1st character ive decided to farm for, because i know i have to invest in her if i want her to shine the way shes supposed to. May us Eula wanters be Eula havers!!!
if raiden beidou worked, we would've got a team thats almost perfect as national +crowd control +no energy problems +nuke dps +shield and this is with only 2 chars, who knows what you could build with the 2 other team slots
It would definitely be a broken combination but not without some weaknesses like how Beidou sucks in single target and also since most of the damage on the team would presumably be electro if there is electro immune enemies then it is kinda screwed where national would have xingqiu( or childe for international) doing good hydro damage and doesn't struggle in single target or aoe.
@@Hayds126 Beidou's weak single target is like compensated by raiden who's mostly a nuke, a dps, buffer and a battery. It may not be as perfect as the raiden national, but it would certainly be the best taser comp in the game
@@chaptereight3406 Raiden would definitely still do pretty well single target but in the context of single target you'd probably just use a buffer like c6 Sara like you would now or fischl/yae. Whether it would be the strict best taser team idk but could be up there.
The funniest thing about his tier list is he repeatedly says how easy the game is and then proceeds to put Zhongli in must pull. Zhongli is good for only making the game easier. Doesn’t do enough for damage yet he’s supposed to be a must pull in a game that doesn’t need difficulty reduction? 😂
If he says the game is easy then why would he care about Zhongli damage. Western meta slaves are weird af, all CN knows Zhongli is great and you don't nees that much damage and that a strong shield is great for almost all content and many teams, yet here they are, with their laugh emojis
@@TYR1139 I mean the games so easy who even hurt you that bad that you need zhongli. I would rather put something that get things done faster. Cn players do the same thing they put money to get things done faster and now they have enough leeway to bring zhongli. Keep in mind cn standard is c2r1
@@TYR1139 For real, western metaslaves have such a weird and biased takes to fill a narrative in their minds. No respectable CN player would dare say Sucrose is better than Kazuha, that Zhongli is mid for making you lose dps or that Hu Tao is worse than Xiangling. Theres a point in which you stop getting annoyed and just feel pity for how unhealthy their mindset is.
@@ZedekiahNS nope ayato is flexible he can fit in many teams specially now with dendro while childe only have the international and I believe with fontain someone will take his place there
@@bazah23 ayato maybe be flexible but it's not like he's the best in any of thoes teams. Ayatos teams are better than childe teams in stuff like freeze, bloom tazer, etc but childe international is better than all thoes. If childe is gonna be replaced by fontain then ayato even more so, he has no specific niche he exels in, he's just a good generalist.
Eula's at the I love her so much tier because I love Eula, and I don't want have to rank Eula because that Eula mains are literally going to devour my anus Zy0x (2022)
yeah i really don't like mtashed tier list his is so bias i prefer The Genshin Scientist tier list way better because it's more accurate specifically for DPS units
If we make genshin win mobile game of the year then they should let us choose one thing we want to see in the game and make Raiden and Beidou work together
Imma sound like your average Eula main but whatever I'll admit that I'm biased: While Itto is strong, it's really freaking expensive to build if you don't have other Geo characters, specially Gorou. In contrast Eula has more F2P-friendly teams like Lisa and Kaeya + you can get Snow tombed Starsilver earlier than the entirety of Inazuma. Thank you for listening to my EULA Talk
wrong, i've played c0 itto whiteblind, geo traveler, a c0 gorou and diona/bennett and i still beat the abyss so easily. people talk abt itto being "expensive" when they don't even play itto. especially when you use 2-3 5stars in abyss, how can you say itto is expensive when the team u use has more than 1 5stars????? :/// literally make no sense at all
Kazuha xingqui and benett are a must pull ive never rolled for zhongli cuz just dodge or use another shield for good resonance I'm talking from exp kazuha literally changed my whole game instantly that is a must pull
@@soumya9484 Because of how overrated he is. Characters like Bennett, Kazuha, Xingqiu, etc. deserve their praise because of how much they can do for the team. Bennett almost doubles your ATK stat while healing large amounts without even building for healing. Kazuha crowd controls, buffs your DMG by a significant amount, can utilize 4pc VV, has the most reliable grouping in the game, and gives a decent amount of personal damage. Xingqiu gives a lot of personal damage, enables so many teams with his insane off-field hydro app, and gives a bit of defensive utility which removes the need for a healer in some times (like sucrose taser). Meanwhile, Zhongli gives a massive shield and a small damage boost, which is good, but nowhere near the utility of the other characters that I mentioned, yet some people say he is "on the same level as Bennett".
@@soumya9484 theres no "must pull" BUT meta-wise exist "game changers" characters, dps wise Ayaka/Hu tao, Suport venti Kazuha Benny, subdps Raiden Yelan, and for me theres the "true game changers" Nahida Venti Nilou(for dendro enjoyers) those characters open a big window of team compositions and give you confort for every event and abyss reset
Honestly, these tier videos on what's good or what's bad is basically a hate magnet. Doesn't matter who you put at which tier, you still get hate. But let be honest Noelle and Itto are basically the same besides the skill
Wtf is this Tier list, Noelle is on “Niche or Bad” tier, like wtf........ My Noelle hits 25-30k per NA, heals a lot and provides her own shield, she should be on “fun and strong......” tier
I'm surprised Childe is lower than Zhongli tbh. I'd always rate Childe higher because his team rarely goes off-meta (even tho Childe is replaceable by Xingqiu, Yelan, Ayato) but Zhongli is also replaceable and many teams don't even need him
It's not a matter of whether or not you NEED Zhongli for meta, it's more a matter of whether or not you value what Zhongli offers. TCs tend to overvalue maximum team dps and Zhongli is technically a damage loss since he doesn't offer personal team damage/significant buffing capabilities. What they don't understand is that once you pass the dps threshold required to clear difficult content, it doesn't matter if Zhongli leads to less team dps if he makes the game extremely comfortable to play and reduces the need to dodge/use i-frames.
@@nathanaelpierre9439 Yeah, this problem has been plaguing on the EN side of theorycrafting for a long time. Whereas on CN, it's the complete opposite, which is why it's no surprise that someone like Zhongli is still top tier and becomes a top 5 recommendation for 5-stars for everyone on their end.
Whats up with all that Eula hate recently? Same with Zajef, i know shes not that good anymore but i still clear the abyss 36 super comfortable with her. (And yes i know there are better units. But shes not that bad.)
I always die before even I have hard healers like Bennett and Diona. Even how hard I do my best to dodge, I still die. Dying often made me quit playing the game for a year. But when I got Zhongli, I don't die anymore in battles. I get to enjoy playing the game even more. That is Zhongli and I do believe even how big head you are trying to show off your dodging skills, idaf. Zhongli is still a must have character. Zhongli can be placed to most of the teams and he is the best in shielding purpose, comparing him to Childe who has the most complicated kit, minimal team comp and comparable to other main dps role is completely absurd.
@@peak407 yeah exactly. But I agree with op. For some people having zhongli helps tons. I struggle with dodging and my ping is always all over the place. Having someone like zhongli helps me personally when I need it
It just depends on your skill and goals. You don't want to muscle-memorize the attack patterns of a fuck-ton of enemies and bosses? Zhongli trivializes that. You feel confident in your dodging, i-framing, and swapping skills? He'll still be good to make rotations brain-dead easy, but not something that will improve your performance. You have actual butter fingers and not having a shield means you die on bosses like Magu Kenkki and the dendro bird, and Raiden destroys you? He's a must pull for you specifically because you will die 300 times less often and will enjoy the game a lot more
The fact that Thoma is now good with the right dendro character is actually funny lol
Yup, burgeon made thoma usable now.
lmao yeah
And wanderer
Mtashed lists are pretty goofy. Not only is he biased towards the characters he owns, but he rates characters he doesn't even own or use.
Not quite, he does say when that's the case. And most of the time, his lists are based on the mechanics and the overall teams mechanics. Which can be done without owning the character themselves.
@@timbridger4681 this list not even close if that's really based on "team mechanics" like how Childe is not quite meta while everyone know the top meta team in this game is a Childe team (basically Xiangling Bennet team but Childe variation is the strongest one compared to others)
@@pedaganglele9552 Rational outdamages in single target but international outdamages in aoe situations. So no, it's not the top meta team cause that would Raiden Hypercarry
@@averageharambelover3541 single target = Rational
More than 1 enemy = International
Childe will literally just get better as more characters gets released
@@wetsama9920 well yes, that's literally what I said
He has kokomi on the same tier as diluc😃
6:26 I resonate with him here. I’m a Xiao main but my friends…
The Raiden hotfix and primogems that was about C2 for mistranslation, it has nothing to do with Raiden and Beidou. And for Beidou, she needs to be reworked on her burst if they want her to work because it is so obvious why they don’t work, requiring to read which I know Genshin players are allergic to reading
Hu Tao mains running out of stamina charge attacking at c0 still cracks me up
naww come on bruh!!!! just manage the stamina bruhh!!!! 😭😭
Just get C1
@@jajathenewking6131 Just spend 30-50 000 primos to get a usable version of the character. Way better than getting 2 characters. /s
I mean, either you give her a shield or do Charge jump cancel into another charge. Back in 1.3 or 1.4, I have been 36/36 ing with her without zhongli using the jump cancel tech since she hits like 100k per charge with a xingqiu. I would say even with the stamina cost at c0, she's still one of the best DPS in the game. maybe like top 5.
@@stoyantodorov2133 her c1 is worth it, anyone who disagree probably doesn't have her at c1 or at all.
GOD DAMN BIRDY BRID FEEDING US RN WITH THE UPLOADS. .THREE IN ONE GO JUST LIKE HOW I COULD TAKE THREE ALHAITHAMS IN ONE GO WOW HUH WHO SAIF THAT
Are u ok
sanest zy0x viewer
in a fight, right?
defintely one of the zyonix fans of all time
HUH sanest zyonix viewer
As a mobile player with a laggy device, Zhongli IS very meta.
Indeed
Floor 12 though, fucking corrosion
Damn so true
Just raid mihoyo hq
Indeed it is as you have guessed
"I think people are bored of Genshin Impact right now, so they're hyping him up"
Projection 100
Nah, if youve played for 2 years, new things can be seen with rose tinted glasses
@@4ft1inAlpha I'd say that the opposite is also true for players who have played that long, some of them are pretty overly pessimistic too. There has to be a way to draw a balance in the end
@@4ft1inAlpha idk about u, am in 2 years it gets better and better
You don't even know how thankful I am that you upload these, Zy0x is completely out of my schedule
@Niki R EU moment 🚬
@nikir7582 when does e stream?
@@danbi4464 For NA in the later evening, for EU that's around like 3-5 am...
@@ptm_tobi eu problems 😞
LMAO the Thoma predict. I just built my Thoma for Burgeon and I was surprised how fun it is
If you don't mind sharing, what artifact set are you using on him? And what are the main stats you recommend for Burgeon? I really want to use my Thoma, but I have no idea how to make him work lol
@@pompaimay HP/ATK/EM/EM/EM and use an energy recharge weapon. 168% to 200% should be good for energy.
@@pompaimayone of the new artifact sets in 2.3 gives a bonus to burgeon damage, try getting full EM on that set and stick him with a fav lance. Team I personally use is Thoma Fischl DMC Xingqiu.
Rotation I use is Fischl E > DMC E Q > Xingqiu E Q E > Thoma E Q normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) > DMC E and normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) > Thoma normal attacks (for fav procs + seeds) then repeat
@@isabellag6220 you don't have to say flower or feather; they're fixed stats
@@pompaimay Lucky for you we're getting a dedicated burgeon set next patch. Just build Thoma full EM and ER, crit doesn't matter.
There's just no way to make an accurate meta tierlist since there's so much nuance that can't really be accounted for, so they all either mislead/clickbait, or are just for entertainment factor
Specially now with dendro
Mtashed is always a clown when assessing characters,. Why? Because half of those he does not even use them, nor have them, and yet the way he talks makes it as if he knows what he's talking about. Literally the third tier and below are characters he doesn't use/have, nor ever properly used them. For example, although he has Yae Miko on his alt account (barely even play on that account) he played Yae Miko in a Itto Rosaria team in the abyss lmfao, wonder why it sucked.
Wait why itto rosaria?
@@poonpoon1604 maybe he need more cr? but still weird you better go fix your artefact and slap him in mono geo team
thats true but i also find him quite biased towards his fav character
Yeah I noticed he rate the character he pulled higher , like he used to roast Xiao but now he rated him high since he got him and tried him well(xiao is op yes) but then giving unfair rate to childe and yea and others?.
@@poonpoon1604 he doesn't have any other characters
Ironically Thoma actually IS decent with dendro LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
That commenter was on copium but ended up being right I CRIII
btw. r u trying to travel back in the past from the current which you called future?? sheeeeesh.
Bro became best burgeon unit 💀
That guy was on some top tier shit I swear
@@Sakuta3220 Apart from a Benny + Kazuha combo, Thoma really is the best burgeon unit out there 😂 good for him good for him.
childe and kokomi on the same tier as diluc ICANT
Me using Childe international and Kokomi hyperbloom to steamroll abyss every time: bruh
@@Ivy-jq6di I know this is kind of late, but I think this person meant that childe and kokomi are much better than diluc, not the other way around
Eula take is so based , as someone who had her at C0 and weapon , used her up to the point that i got my raiden national team running on open world. Hvnt touched her since then , in domains abyss or open world. 50% of the time is either you crit ur ult or you don't , and its funny as heck XD. But the 1 thing i learned while playing Eula was to keep track of enemies' movement. Now i am a master monster attack's predictor like I'm playing monster hunter or some shit , ill pop that ult when its about to have a huge window for burst and ill release that ult if its about to wake tf up.
5:25 Fking cum at him.
“50% you crit ur ult or u don’t,” then put your CR higher than 50%. Not that hard 🤭
@@jlbbuena this is the most Eula main thing I’ve read🤣
@@jlbbuena if only this works with childe 😄 I once did a 81% crit rate showcase but it did not crit ehe. How can my friend's childe with 40% CR crits more than mine(61%) fr, he's cursed 😭
@@minami_uuuFR I just go "Shouldn't have left your guard down" and the highest damage I do is 5k from the Riptide effect popping
Dori is a must pull xD
Which vod is this?? Want to watch the whole thing
”A lot of them won’t be able to catch up to me because they’ll run out of stamina charge attacking at C0”😂😂😂
So spot on with Eula experience. She is so satisfying with heavy investment x 7.
A nuke is only a nuke if everything melts. Unfortunately, the cockroach always survives.
So poetic
This man understands the actual law of physics
I always hate when the cockroach survived...
I've been waiting for eula since I started playing and I invest into the characters I love and I am prepared for her, still working on artifacts for her but I am intent on using her she just too pretty not to
eula is a goddess
only using cute/attractive characters is how genshin is meant to be played.
Her lore & personality does it for me, though she's also very pretty!! 1st character ive decided to farm for, because i know i have to invest in her if i want her to shine the way shes supposed to. May us Eula wanters be Eula havers!!!
i have c0 eula and she might not do big screenshot damage but i enjoy playing her so much idk why lol her animations are satisfying
Wtf not big numbers my c0 does 150k plus with dragonspine claymore
U need to build her right now or gimme her I'll add her to my constellations
@@Dusk225 you can go way higher, 150k is just rookie number
@@Dusk225 i dont even need eula to do over 100k dmg on dps burst😂
@@Rule-69 that is solo damage I'm talking about that is almost peak u can get with solo with 4 star weapon at c0
10:42 well that didnt age well
Bro, where did the comments go? 💀
Eula is the best character this game ever put out. 100% baised
Oh wow Childe is not meta, thats a funny concept
Its great that the tier terms scales from Tony To to Enviosity xD
Nobody:
Xy0x:
WHY WHY *POR QUE* 👹
if raiden beidou worked, we would've got a team thats almost perfect as national
+crowd control
+no energy problems
+nuke dps
+shield
and this is with only 2 chars, who knows what you could build with the 2 other team slots
It would definitely be a broken combination but not without some weaknesses like how Beidou sucks in single target and also since most of the damage on the team would presumably be electro if there is electro immune enemies then it is kinda screwed where national would have xingqiu( or childe for international) doing good hydro damage and doesn't struggle in single target or aoe.
Crowd control?
@@Hayds126 Beidou's weak single target is like compensated by raiden who's mostly a nuke, a dps, buffer and a battery. It may not be as perfect as the raiden national, but it would certainly be the best taser comp in the game
@@getampedmiku12 beidou offers the group damage hence crowd control
@@chaptereight3406 Raiden would definitely still do pretty well single target but in the context of single target you'd probably just use a buffer like c6 Sara like you would now or fischl/yae. Whether it would be the strict best taser team idk but could be up there.
I think beidou doenst work with raiden bc u wouldnt be able to sell yae that well
Trueee cuz what’s the reason 💀
Just delete yae or sum☠️
Nah, if raiden did work with Beidou, her 4 pc Emblem would be unusable .
Ngl I've never seen as much genshin elitists gathered in one place as in this comment section
10:45
Burgeon Thoma did end up being good lmao
10:40 that didn't age well. burgeon thoma is pretty strong these days
Especially with the current 4pc. Flower of Paradise Lost Set
He was on some top tier shit. Literally
/xinyan has the same VA as barbara yall
mtashed trying to get a single word out this whole video is SENDING me
The childe and kokomi tier killed me, zhongli made the game easier ofc he's a must pull if he don't he will fucking die everytime
Once i saw childe is in not quite as meta tier which is the very first second.. Yeah this tierlist is very biased lol
Zy0x laughing at a comment saying Thoma would become really good when dendro came out because he thought it'd never happen did not age well, lol
Where is the vod for this? I need to watch the entire thing. This is hilarious lmao.
Bruh same commenting here in case someone links the vod
Thank you for uploading the whole thing. I love you birdy brid. Mwah
“Eula is like a double sided spoon “ 😂😂😂😂😂
yeah, i remembered maxing my beidou before raiden released to pair them both, then.... i got heartbroken
As a Eula Main Max Invest F2P C0 + SOBP, Zyonix describes it so accurately that it hurts a bit 😭
At this point ive seen the zyox eula graph at least 5 times
Who's watching in Fontaine?
The funniest thing about his tier list is he repeatedly says how easy the game is and then proceeds to put Zhongli in must pull. Zhongli is good for only making the game easier. Doesn’t do enough for damage yet he’s supposed to be a must pull in a game that doesn’t need difficulty reduction? 😂
If he says the game is easy then why would he care about Zhongli damage.
Western meta slaves are weird af, all CN knows Zhongli is great and you don't nees that much damage and that a strong shield is great for almost all content and many teams, yet here they are, with their laugh emojis
@@TYR1139 I mean the games so easy who even hurt you that bad that you need zhongli. I would rather put something that get things done faster. Cn players do the same thing they put money to get things done faster and now they have enough leeway to bring zhongli. Keep in mind cn standard is c2r1
Nah bro playing in 30 fps on a potato phone without Zhongli is impossible
@@TYR1139 For real, western metaslaves have such a weird and biased takes to fill a narrative in their minds. No respectable CN player would dare say Sucrose is better than Kazuha, that Zhongli is mid for making you lose dps or that Hu Tao is worse than Xiangling.
Theres a point in which you stop getting annoyed and just feel pity for how unhealthy their mindset is.
Well thats why its S tier coz he makes the game easy coz hes that useful DUHH..
Ain’t no way bro put Diluc and Eula at the same tier as Childe and Kokomi 💀
Tbh around the time he did the tier list people didn’t know she great so it’s understandable but meh childe is meh
@@bazah23 childe was still much better than both diluc and eula tho, if ayato could reach higher childe should be around the same.
@@ZedekiahNS nope ayato is flexible he can fit in many teams specially now with dendro while childe only have the international and I believe with fontain someone will take his place there
@@bazah23 ayato maybe be flexible but it's not like he's the best in any of thoes teams. Ayatos teams are better than childe teams in stuff like freeze, bloom tazer, etc but childe international is better than all thoes. If childe is gonna be replaced by fontain then ayato even more so, he has no specific niche he exels in, he's just a good generalist.
and also i never said childe was better i just said if ayato can reach a higher tier so should childe because they are similar in power level
Eula's at the I love her so much tier because I love Eula, and I don't want have to rank Eula because that Eula mains are literally going to devour my anus
Zy0x (2022)
inserts any zy0x copypasta
where’s my likes?
to this day i still don't understand what's the problem with xinyan's accent....
It's a Yank-specific problem, aka America moment
I like how tonyto was higher then whale tier 2:00
yeah i really don't like mtashed tier list his is so bias i prefer The Genshin Scientist tier list way better because it's more accurate specifically for DPS units
Those tier lists .. wise to ignore them .
With all the respect for content creators they ran out of content ideas and just mislead players .
If we make genshin win mobile game of the year then they should let us choose one thing we want to see in the game and make Raiden and Beidou work together
Hoyoverse: 1600 primos. Take it or leave it.
The only way to make Beidou is to remake how Beidou burst works
Im using thoma rn with nahida and also With xinqiu and fishcl and he is really good. I beat the other half of my floor 12 with this team easily.
Ofcourse Zyox will be happy with Xiao being placed above Itto and on the same tier and Ganyu and Ayaka.
"and then you enviosity" cracks me up no matter how many times i hear it.
10:41 Zyonix opinion aged like milk RIPBOZO
thoma is still not top tier hes just okayge
@@levo8130 he is best at burgeon tho
@@luizaminasyan3145 just because it works doesnt mean its top tier.
Thoma is still very low mid.
Thoma top tier COPIUM KEKW
I had to turn my volume down 4 times during this video cus he kept yelling at the top of his lungs xD
Raidou we got : EM raiden.
Imma sound like your average Eula main but whatever I'll admit that I'm biased: While Itto is strong, it's really freaking expensive to build if you don't have other Geo characters, specially Gorou. In contrast Eula has more F2P-friendly teams like Lisa and Kaeya + you can get Snow tombed Starsilver earlier than the entirety of Inazuma.
Thank you for listening to my EULA Talk
wrong, i've played c0 itto whiteblind, geo traveler, a c0 gorou and diona/bennett and i still beat the abyss so easily. people talk abt itto being "expensive" when they don't even play itto. especially when you use 2-3 5stars in abyss, how can you say itto is expensive when the team u use has more than 1 5stars????? :/// literally make no sense at all
Gorou js easy to build
10:46 did not age well
can you PLEASE link the original stream for this plsplsplsplspls
It's funny seeing his streams compared to his recorded YT videos. He is so much more ADHD-ey on stream.
All that talking just for Xinyan to carry the game.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOREVER😭💔 THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS, MY SAVIOR
Mtashed don't even use some of those characters and he basically does fck up with team building.
10:43 BRO MA MAN WAS RIGHT THOMA IS ACTUALLY GOOD WITH DENDRO NOW
Watching this again knowing wanderer exists.... Lol
Zy0xx isn’t the only one still upset WHY TF DOES BEIDOU STILL NOT WORK WITH RAIDEN
WHY IS HE SO MAD?? my head is cream pounding after this video
i saved 1 year to get r5 blackcliff just to pull pjws 5 mins later. but yes it is something you have to go through as a Xiao lover
must pull = zhongli
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why not tho?
edit: I personally believe no character is a must pull but why are people singling him out?
Kazuha xingqui and benett are a must pull ive never rolled for zhongli cuz just dodge or use another shield for good resonance
I'm talking from exp kazuha literally changed my whole game instantly that is a must pull
@@soumya9484 Because of how overrated he is. Characters like Bennett, Kazuha, Xingqiu, etc. deserve their praise because of how much they can do for the team. Bennett almost doubles your ATK stat while healing large amounts without even building for healing. Kazuha crowd controls, buffs your DMG by a significant amount, can utilize 4pc VV, has the most reliable grouping in the game, and gives a decent amount of personal damage. Xingqiu gives a lot of personal damage, enables so many teams with his insane off-field hydro app, and gives a bit of defensive utility which removes the need for a healer in some times (like sucrose taser).
Meanwhile, Zhongli gives a massive shield and a small damage boost, which is good, but nowhere near the utility of the other characters that I mentioned, yet some people say he is "on the same level as Bennett".
@@soumya9484 theres no "must pull" BUT meta-wise exist "game changers" characters, dps wise Ayaka/Hu tao, Suport venti Kazuha Benny, subdps Raiden Yelan, and for me theres the "true game changers" Nahida Venti Nilou(for dendro enjoyers) those characters open a big window of team compositions and give you confort for every event and abyss reset
Better than raiden
6:02 DUDE, IM A SPANISH SPEAKER, ESE PORQUE LE SALIO DEL ALMA WEON HAHAHAAH
You watch one tier list video that's based on the Meta, you've watched all of them lol
Unless that tier list is sekapoko's, who has some... interesting takes
@@KrisPBacon69 Kokomi on the same tier as Ayaka is still the funniest tier list take ever 😂
@@averageharambelover3541 Kokomi being higher than Childe in a DPS tier list is also pretty fucking hilarious lmaoo
Zhongli is must pull, dodging is for nerds
I... Am willing to bet in my life that the best Aloy build in the world can hardly break 200k total dmg 😂😂😂
Honestly, these tier videos on what's good or what's bad is basically a hate magnet.
Doesn't matter who you put at which tier, you still get hate.
But let be honest Noelle and Itto are basically the same besides the skill
Mtashed's list is so bad lmao
Wtf is this Tier list, Noelle is on “Niche or Bad” tier, like wtf........ My Noelle hits 25-30k per NA, heals a lot and provides her own shield, she should be on “fun and strong......” tier
11:02 💀
not the eula ms paint chart.... what is that omg
THE NEXT RAIDEN RERUN RAIDEN WILL FINALLY WORK WITH BEIDOU! *Aggressive inhaling*⚠️⚠️⚠️
I'm surprised Childe is lower than Zhongli tbh. I'd always rate Childe higher because his team rarely goes off-meta (even tho Childe is replaceable by Xingqiu, Yelan, Ayato) but Zhongli is also replaceable and many teams don't even need him
Zhongli is very overrated by most people but underrated by theory crafters. He's mid A/Top Tier at most.
based on their kit and kit only, Zhongli is easily higher than Childe but overall they're both S tier and neither of them are technically a must pull.
It's not a matter of whether or not you NEED Zhongli for meta, it's more a matter of whether or not you value what Zhongli offers. TCs tend to overvalue maximum team dps and Zhongli is technically a damage loss since he doesn't offer personal team damage/significant buffing capabilities. What they don't understand is that once you pass the dps threshold required to clear difficult content, it doesn't matter if Zhongli leads to less team dps if he makes the game extremely comfortable to play and reduces the need to dodge/use i-frames.
Zhongli remains the most overrated character
@@nathanaelpierre9439 Yeah, this problem has been plaguing on the EN side of theorycrafting for a long time. Whereas on CN, it's the complete opposite, which is why it's no surprise that someone like Zhongli is still top tier and becomes a top 5 recommendation for 5-stars for everyone on their end.
Omg. Chongyun in the bad tier. As a chongyun main I'm offended he is not bad
He is pretty bad lol. His E just got left behind by the entire meta.
With shenhe a cryo character could be good 💪 and I dont think it's bad bc it makes attacks cryo
The thing is it’s a waste to invest in him as dps when there’s a better cryo units btw I respect your commitment to chongyun
@@max_max1413 but chongyuns auto attack scaling just wasnt designed to be good with that. Like sure you can try but don’t expect it to hit very much.
Whats up with all that Eula hate recently? Same with Zajef, i know shes not that good anymore but i still clear the abyss 36 super comfortable with her. (And yes i know there are better units. But shes not that bad.)
She was never good. But yeah, glad you are comfortable with her. No idea how you do it, I could never.
@@MoonShocked she's always been good. Maybe you have some personal issues playing her but people who play her often know her limits very well.
She is so annoying to play ngl
his inability to effectively graph information pisses me off more than any tier list
Zyoxx is so fun even though I don't watch him I like his such short videos
Zyox is very funny, def one of the streamers out there
can you link me and the timestamp of this? i want to watch the vod thank you
10:43 this clip didnt age well
This is bring me back a meta tier when they put barbara S tier and xingqiu & bennet C tier
" i aM GOoing tO NuT evErwhere "
Wait a sec.. " A tier list of genshin impact " ? You mean an Open War?
Eula imo is the only character i know who is meant for fighting bosses and kill them instantly
4:10 You have to have a very high IQ to understand Xiao
me just replaying the first 1 second of the video: jongli jongli jongli jongli jongli jongli jongli
lmfao
I always die before even I have hard healers like Bennett and Diona. Even how hard I do my best to dodge, I still die. Dying often made me quit playing the game for a year. But when I got Zhongli, I don't die anymore in battles. I get to enjoy playing the game even more. That is Zhongli and I do believe even how big head you are trying to show off your dodging skills, idaf. Zhongli is still a must have character.
Zhongli can be placed to most of the teams and he is the best in shielding purpose, comparing him to Childe who has the most complicated kit, minimal team comp and comparable to other main dps role is completely absurd.
Skill issue i'm afraid
Zhongli is not a must have char he just a optional character
@@peak407 yeah exactly. But I agree with op. For some people having zhongli helps tons. I struggle with dodging and my ping is always all over the place. Having someone like zhongli helps me personally when I need it
get gud💀
It just depends on your skill and goals. You don't want to muscle-memorize the attack patterns of a fuck-ton of enemies and bosses? Zhongli trivializes that. You feel confident in your dodging, i-framing, and swapping skills? He'll still be good to make rotations brain-dead easy, but not something that will improve your performance. You have actual butter fingers and not having a shield means you die on bosses like Magu Kenkki and the dendro bird, and Raiden destroys you? He's a must pull for you specifically because you will die 300 times less often and will enjoy the game a lot more
this dude is the xqc of genshin
my right ear really enjoyed this ty
The more I know about meta, the less I watch mtashed lol