✔ First Impressions - A-Rated Alliance Chieftain - Elite: Dangerous Beyond

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  • Last time we took a look at a stock Chieftain so this time it's time to A-Rate this beauty! Side note: I also forgot to mention the price last time around and it's just shy of 18.9 Million credits to buy without discount.
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ความคิดเห็น • 211

  • @kabazt
    @kabazt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This ship is in the perfect price range: roughly 20 million. There is such a huge gap in combat ship prices between the vulture and the fer-de-lance. This is where progression seems to low right down, and the game can feel like a grind if you want to get to the larger ships. There are plenty of combat ships in this range, but they are all rank locked, which is just treading one grind for another. Having a ship you can buy not too long after fully A rating a vulture is awesome, and gives the player more immediate gratification each time they upgrade another module, which is much more engaging than watching their bank balance slowly tick up. Not to mention the unique look of the ship, or the awesome load-out possibilities, or how maneuverable it is for its size, or how you can build it into something that can stand up to a fer-de-lance, or a python, or even an anaconda! This ship is an absolute game changer!

    • @ross-carlson
      @ross-carlson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      $20M? Another who doesn't understand ship cost - A rated it's in the $85M range without military armor so while cheaper it's basically the same and near exact or more expensive than the FAS. More ships should be rank or otherwise locked as the games progression should not be financially based. Flying a ship you can't afford to properly outfit, ie A rate is one of the dumbest rookie mistakes in Elite, please don't listen to this kid and never fly un-A-rated.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I'm still puttering around in a AspX - IMO no point in bothering with something else until I've got a 9 digit balance... which sadly means a lot of grind - so I grind for a bit, then do something interesting for a bit, then back to the grind.

    • @DerAykac
      @DerAykac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Ross Carlson Why are there allways CMDRs like u who get mad about this? Maybe its FUN for some to try out new Ships without grinding tons of hours. Sheesh...It´s not like u can´t make money with a not A rated ship. I HATED my fully A-Rated ASP and i will never go back to it. Flying and nearly ungeared Chieftain means so much more fun for me. Mybe others see it that way too. But i admit: Ur way to play the game is the only way for EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUUM

    • @roseco581
      @roseco581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont think this is neccesarily true, even on my most tweaked upgraded, modified ships I have plenty of D rated stuff for weight purposes, and my explorer is practically totally D rated for that reason. My Imperial cutter for mining and trade is pretty mediocre D and C stuff and it is maximized for that purpose, more money is just more money and isnt needed. A vulture even unmodded with medium grade stuff is still plenty deadly for PvE especially with practice.

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ross Carlson Gonna have to agree with @David Aykac some people don't want to have to wait for a 9-digit balance before getting into one of the beefier combat ships. There's no rule stating that you have to be able to A rate a ship before you set foot in it. Also as @RoseCo stated, it's entirely possible to make money via combat in some of the lowest tier ships, let alone in a decently outfitted Cheiftan. Some of us enjoy ship progression and are capable of working with something that may be slightly undergeared. Maybe just don't engage ships you don't think you can win against if you're flying something underfitted. We can still enjoy ship progression without needing to be a billionaire.

  • @Termi-Motovlogs
    @Termi-Motovlogs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been playing ED for 2 days and this is my goal ship.
    Loving my Cobra 3 but this looks like a real thug of a ship for my fleet!
    Thanks for the video CMDR Wulf!

    • @aronnemcsik
      @aronnemcsik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this isn't a chieftan... Chieftan doesn't have a fighter bay

    • @Termi-Motovlogs
      @Termi-Motovlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool story bro, have the chieftain and challenger now and I don't even use them. All about the Vette for my escapades.
      Bright yellow Vette!!

    • @chrisdude
      @chrisdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Termi-Motovlogs I love the character arc

  • @TheDarkWolv
    @TheDarkWolv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Chieftain will definitely be joining my fleet of ships, I've got gotta find a load out that I like for it. But its definitely a lotta fun to fly.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheDarkWolv I've recommended a fun/functional loadout above if you're interested

  • @Billkwando
    @Billkwando 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay! A loadout featuring a weapon you have to jump through fiery hoops and wait 4 weeks to unlock. Thanks for the advice! :p

  • @99Cheops99
    @99Cheops99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best load out I've found so far for me.. 3 eff beams.. one medium high cap corrosive multi.. and two large overcharged multis. Can fire all of that for a decent amount of time even with just 2 pips in weapons.

    • @snakeoo7ca
      @snakeoo7ca ปีที่แล้ว

      Multis and lasers yawn

    • @99Cheops99
      @99Cheops99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snakeoo7ca It worked pretty well FOUR GODDAMN YEARS AGO.

  • @khaosbydesignuk946
    @khaosbydesignuk946 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an Alliance player I've been waiting for this ship for so long, can't wait to get it in the live game.
    New main me thinks :D

    • @biowepcosmic
      @biowepcosmic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      KhaosByDesign UK I claim this ship in the name of the feds.

    • @khaosbydesignuk946
      @khaosbydesignuk946 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cosmic Drew, You already have ships, give us this one lol

  • @Vasious8128
    @Vasious8128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Needing a Detailed surface scanner to get a first discovered tag is incorrect.
    Any resolved scan will do (is level 2 and 3 scans)

  • @Drawfill
    @Drawfill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hands down my favorite combat ship to this day.

  • @dhyde2025
    @dhyde2025 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FYI you can still scan planets without a DSS and get your name on it. Just wont get deposits and payout boost.

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Daniel Hyde huh, seems I've been living off of false info for a while... then again I never tested it personally

  • @shipcali
    @shipcali 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time going into any of the beta's for ED just for this ship. Gotta say, this thing was a blast to fly and I can't wait to get my hands on one in live. Here I am still working my way to be able to afford the rebuy on my first Anaconda and already looking to afford to kit out probably my new favorite combat ship.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Shipley finish your Conda first, it's a better ship by far. That being said, the Cheiftan is hella fun to do low CZ with.

  • @scoobylew24
    @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make a valid point regarding the continued use of rear thrusters while in downward position. I A spec'd mine as well, but I like my loadout better. 2 fixed class 3 multi cannons, the rest are gimballed beams. Same military hull, same shield, levels 5,4,4,2 hull reinforcements, levels 5,4,4 module reinforcements. Chaff + 3 sheild boosters. I find it very fun in combat. Not as sturdy as my Conda, not as agile as my FDL, I probably just like it because it's new. Not a good exploration ship, not a great cargo hauler, might replace my cobra as a bubble hopper. Ok, guess I'm naming her "Leap Frog". Maybe good for light HazRez patrol. I tested mine in a low CZ, totally holds it's own there and was Lots of fun.

  • @crackpotgolfer
    @crackpotgolfer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After a few videos had to try it out myself the Chieftain's a ship killer with a little speed matching practice it can keep guns plastered onto the target

  • @bigandysg
    @bigandysg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would put this ship in a support role next to a corvette, have two chieftains with heal beams and a engineered Corvette and you would be unstoppable!

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      BigAndySG I agree, I'm actually planning to engineer healing beams myself

    • @bigandysg
      @bigandysg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Lewis I put two on my vulture to heal my friends ‘conda and it’s insane how fast they recharge the shield. Pre-beyond update that is.

  • @DerAykac
    @DerAykac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought it right when the patch went online, i like it. Feels like a Tank compared to the vulture, and u can "feel" that weight it has. Handles a bit drifty, but feels good once u get used to it

  • @hamzakalim2327
    @hamzakalim2327 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome ship definitely a new vehicle on my wish list.

  • @Cliffjumper24
    @Cliffjumper24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Engineered Advanced Plasma Acellerators with 'Plasma Slug' added to Beam lasers with the 'Thermal Vent' modifications would make a devastating combination.

  • @shperax
    @shperax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro tip for PvE. It's not as fun but get all fixed weapons for max DPS. After you engage go into max reverse. The enemy will just fly straight at you shooting and IF they survive to catch up to you they will always try and get underneath you so just pitch down slightly to keep them dead in your sights. Once you get the hang of it your gonna be downing ships in seconds. Bi weave Shields work best for this since they recharge so fast your downtime between fights is very minimal. And even killing wanted like this is still not a practical way to make credits. I would say FDL is probably the optimal ship for this strategy.

  • @BlitzedNostradamus
    @BlitzedNostradamus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They upgraded one of the optional internal slots from a 5 to a 6. Currently rocking a 6C Bi-Weave

  • @henrik3056
    @henrik3056 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fully engineered fsd and a guardian fsd booster gets my Chieftain 35 ly, and that's without downgrading/stripping for weight

  • @The_Norse_Hunk
    @The_Norse_Hunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't have any luck with a class 3 beam laser...I 2 pulse laser's on, and multi cannons on the rest and it did the job well.

  • @Tiwey
    @Tiwey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i wish it was a full vtol ship so you could be able to land on 8G planets

    • @Boemel
      @Boemel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was what i thought, this had the potential for it but they did not take it.

    • @Tiwey
      @Tiwey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tom Jacobs the keelback is some kind of vtol with its small engines on the side
      like they knew they could but i believe they were just lazy 😕
      well what will you do

  • @Anthua
    @Anthua 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ship design looks like it could fly in a atmospheric planet

  • @JustinGoffinet
    @JustinGoffinet 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see side-by-side with previous video for a really good before > after acceleration and braking comparison.

  • @robynhighart2026
    @robynhighart2026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shield Cell Bank. Now, that's a sound I haven't heard in a long time.

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye, I've missed it my own self :)

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robyn Highart i use it on my shield tank pve corvette. 2 huge beams with heat vents and I don't even need heat sinks to use the scb. Makes me immortal.

    • @brianhognaberg
      @brianhognaberg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that is not bad at all, might have to try that. More Shield booster in the Utility slots then :)

  • @PeterTX
    @PeterTX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fully A Rated exploration ship in the beta with engineered modules has a 30.1ly Jump Range

  • @TheWackyhead
    @TheWackyhead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your intro

  • @EM-ks5my
    @EM-ks5my 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Vulture and got tired of being shot at, then tried this one and dang!
    I have hit any other ship

  • @Norralin
    @Norralin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    With a well engineered FSD it can get a jump range of around 35-40. Which is decent.

  • @schiefer1103
    @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I... Hater of Engineering... Am thinking about grinding Engineers for good modules... And I used the Chieftain and loved it, tho when being away from "home" I don't really do anything useful (except when doing grind) just being there gave me no benefits and I had no fighter too goof around in, but I think this'll be my next primary combat ship outside of my Vette...

    • @Nachowsky
      @Nachowsky 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grinding engineers is a pain in the ass but it is really worth it. Instead of grinding them all look for those of more interest to you and focus on them. I did so, since I'm more an explorer/pve player who tries to avoid pvp, and when grinding I set aside all those pvp-oriented engineers. It saves a lot of time and resources.

  • @xJaylivexGaming
    @xJaylivexGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think u made me want the chef, thx bud.

  • @Bakastarwind020779
    @Bakastarwind020779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me want one! Just gotta wait till it come's on Consol.
    The designe remind's me of the old Lifter from Elite Frontier, Shaim the forward engens don't swivel like the rear one's, but then I gess it would be too similer to the old Lifter.

    • @kubel83
      @kubel83 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bakastarwind020779 that would be cool! Still getting one though.

  • @scottycas7313
    @scottycas7313 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the look of this ship, might just be enuf with the coming changes to get me back into Elite. My only concern is that everyone and their mother is going to be flying the Chieftain.

  • @sevenfortyfour
    @sevenfortyfour 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t try to engineer anything until Beta 2 is out! You can be locked out of even loading the game until a bug with that gets fixed.
    That said, toss a bunch of Hull reinforcements and heavy armor on this thing and try hunting some Thargoids. Seems like it was purpose-built for it almost.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      sevenfortyfour I wouldn't dare, not without a dual fighter bay. Good luck tho!

    • @spencerborg7541
      @spencerborg7541 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but it was purpose built for hunting thargoids

  • @NoisySheep7
    @NoisySheep7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just brought this yesterday with my credit, now I only have like 1mil cp lol.
    Didn't really get to use it yet, but I painted it a dark color immediately lol. And the booster sounds like a MONSTER!! Did u hear it?! It goes "shwoop pearaaahh"

  • @bushyfromoz8834
    @bushyfromoz8834 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like it really need a class 5 turned into a class 6 slot. Be nice if vehicle hangars would fit into military slots

  • @mirandela777
    @mirandela777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ships with military, restricted internal compartments are NOT for exploration.... except if you are a maso.... or just dumb. The Chieff is great for combat, inside bubble, probably one of the best combat ships, but that’s all... And for combat you need a much better build, this here with 3-400 shields is crap; Put in the military comp. 1 cell and 2 guardian shield reinforcement, fill 3 of 4 utility with shield boosters ( and level 5 engineered ) , add a kill scanner, and you get a really great combat ship. The 1200-1400 shield vs 3-400 here really makes a lot of difference in combat. You won't need chaff so much because you can stay really "glued" behind your target with your amazing maneuverability.
    The only MAJOR drawback of this ship ( like all medium/small ships) is you cannot engage at will wings of NPC.s, especially elite ones with a big one and 2 medium ( like a wing of Conda and a Chief plus a FdL, all together) like you can do laughing in a Vette. If you get focused by such a wing, you will go to rebuy screen if you do not run away fast... Is a great ship, but cannot sustain punishment and cannot face more than 3 enemies at once...

  • @ComdrStew
    @ComdrStew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ship was made for fixed weapons because all hardpoints are down the middle.

  • @dopejack007
    @dopejack007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta say... from what i've seen... I like it... although it's no replacement for my FDL or Python... but would definitely be a good addition as a heavy combat fighter. Watching your vid... wondering if the sm hard points should be rails?

    • @tharsgaard663
      @tharsgaard663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried alot of different weapon loadouts and the one I found great for me ( fairly new to E:D twitch combat skills not so great , was one large beam, one large multicannon, medium beam and the rest multi's, all gimballed, and fully hull/module tanked , for my skill level it rips most NPC's apart very quickly

  • @Sukkulents_
    @Sukkulents_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the balancing on this ship.... apart from the shields

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were buffed before it went live, they have class 6 shields now not 5.

  • @realdhop
    @realdhop 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m getting one for sure!

  • @marcelovictorcunharosa8484
    @marcelovictorcunharosa8484 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ChaosWulff,what's the system that you buy this ship,my english is not good because i am Brazilian,yes you have Brazilian fans,congratulations

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marcelo Victor Cunha Rosa system name: WYRD

    • @Nachowsky
      @Nachowsky 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can see the name when he gets outside the station, all systems take their name from the main star name. In this case, as Mark Lewis said, is Wyrd.

    • @phuturephunk
      @phuturephunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I usually hang around the Lave cluster and Ridley Scott in Zaonce sells it.

  • @CMDROldDuck
    @CMDROldDuck 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can get your name on undiscovered planets without a DSS, you just make less credits and won't get as many details about the planet on your system map.

    • @BrawnyFanta
      @BrawnyFanta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But why would you be exploring without scanners?

  • @JanVGH
    @JanVGH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking about swapping my two heat sink launchers with shield boosters because I engineered my Chieftain already and it doesn't overheat when I use shield cell banks

  • @Kissamiess
    @Kissamiess 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks roughly about the weapons layout I would use. Too bad there is no alternating fire mode without fire group trickery.

  • @hibiscus779
    @hibiscus779 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always wanted a Vulture with some hardpoint flexibility. This seems to be it. Probably not tough enough for Thargoids, though

    • @RealPigeon
      @RealPigeon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tough enough for Thargoid Scouts probably.

  • @Brownie05191
    @Brownie05191 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff CMDR!

  • @kelkun8628
    @kelkun8628 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    for 18M, I'll definitely buy it

  • @AshenTechDotCom
    @AshenTechDotCom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    would stick with the asp exp for exploration for now, i can get 25 with it loaded up for "ink and run" cargo runs with a 25 range no eng work at all

  • @Llevarion
    @Llevarion 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing is sexy as fuck. Absolutely getting one when it comes out in the live server.
    Was a bit dissappointed that its another combat ship because when I first saw it I got a cargo ship vibe but honestly it looks so damn good I wouldn't care if it was a damn mining ship i'm still gonna but it!

  • @zontarr8812
    @zontarr8812 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    this engineered needs armored thrusters and reinforced canopy if that exists :)

  • @AshenTechDotCom
    @AshenTechDotCom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    l3 ax cannons would have blown them both by the time yyou took out the cobra
    check the build out sight, the ax 3pips destroy armor and shields....;) add 2 beams or whatever and you got a beast ;)

  • @gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
    @gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was under 40 mil for me to buy and A rate it. haven't tested diff hard points yet

  • @sigmer296
    @sigmer296 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a good ship but the canopy...

    • @exarkun4084
      @exarkun4084 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steve Hunter: CANOPY DESTROYED. LIFE SUPPORT, ON.

  • @matthewyoung9828
    @matthewyoung9828 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    are you ever going to do anymore a rated ships and ship kits because I loved those series

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really depends, I'm really struggling to keep up any enthusiasm for the game right now, hopefully after the next update there is enough to rekindle my interest.

    • @matthewyoung9828
      @matthewyoung9828 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChaosWulff nah dont worry about it I was just wondering due to really liking the series but I do hope next update is any good

  • @SpartasEdge
    @SpartasEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, 19 mil for the Chieftain. For some reason i was expecting it to be nearer the Python/Fer de Lance price range, not that I'm complaining. So i take it they don't do the 10% of actual price any more in the beta, because i can't imagine it costing 180-190 mil off beta.

    • @zontarr8812
      @zontarr8812 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the canopy and thrusters are really weak, few seconds the canopy goes after shields down and then thrusters and you will lose control easy ...so the price I think is a bit much.

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      zon tarr He may have just been unlucky with the canopy, and you can always improve your life support, if you take hull damage your likely to go to port soon anyway.
      A lot of people's disengage point in a fight is when your shields are about to drop anyway, making a weak canopy irrelevant to me.

  • @Antifaith29
    @Antifaith29 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's HP placement is the tits. This thing is going to be amazing for rails

  • @chardellbrown1821
    @chardellbrown1821 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Landing gears in the thrusters? Thrusters stacked almost directly in front of each other?

  • @pookiipower435
    @pookiipower435 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is this ship and all the engineer changes coming to the live server? And I really want this ship. I bet it will be a fun multi crew ship :)

  • @danielshir5909
    @danielshir5909 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think this ship would make a good combat explorer? Im Looking for a ship with multicrew. Combat and srv exploring capabilities outside the bubble. Getting tired of asp and conda...

  • @CanisMythson
    @CanisMythson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built this in the beta Shipyard. I call it Hail to the Chief.
    [Alliance Chieftain, Hail to the Chief!] [+1]
    L: 3C/G Beam Laser [+1]
    *: Efficient 5
    *: Power Draw -48.00%; Damage +23.99%; Distributor Draw -45.00%
    *: Thermal Load -60.00%
    L: 3C/G Beam Laser [+1]
    *: Efficient 5
    *: Power Draw -48.00%; Damage +23.99%; Distributor Draw -45.00%
    *: Thermal Load -60.00%
    M: 2B/FS Pack-Hound Missile Rack [+1]
    *: Rapid Fire 5
    *: Damage -5.00%; Distributor Draw -35.00%; Burst Interval -44.00%
    *: Reload Time -65.00%; Jitter +0.50
    S: 1G/G Multi-cannon [+1]
    *: Rapid Fire 5
    *: Damage -5.00%; Distributor Draw -35.00%; Burst Interval -44.00%
    *: Reload Time -65.00%; Jitter +0.50
    S: 1G/G Multi-cannon [+1]
    *: Rapid Fire 5
    *: Damage -5.00%; Distributor Draw -35.00%; Burst Interval -44.00%
    *: Reload Time -65.00%; Jitter +0.50
    S: 1G/G Multi-cannon [+1]
    *: Rapid Fire 5
    *: Damage -5.00%; Distributor Draw -35.00%; Burst Interval -44.00%
    *: Reload Time -65.00%; Jitter +0.50
    U: 0C Frame Shift Wake Scanner [+1]
    *: Fast Scan 5
    *: Integrity -50.00%; Scanner Range -25.00%; Scan Time -80.00%
    U: 0C Kill Warrant Scanner [+1]
    *: Fast Scan 5
    *: Integrity -50.00%; Scanner Range -25.00%; Scan Time -80.00%
    U: 0A Shield Booster [+1]
    *: Heavy Duty 5
    *: Mass +300.00%; Integrity +15.00%; Power Draw +25.00%
    *: Shield Boost +45.60%
    U: 0A Shield Booster [+1]
    *: Heavy Duty 5
    *: Mass +300.00%; Integrity +15.00%; Power Draw +25.00%
    *: Shield Boost +45.60%
    BH: 1A Military Grade Composite
    **: Heavy Duty 5
    **: Mass +30.00%; Hull Boost +112.00%; Kinetic Resistance +6.00%
    **: Thermal Resistance +5.00%; Explosive Resistance +7.00%
    PP: 6A Power Plant
    **: Armoured 5
    **: Mass +20.00%; Integrity +120.00%; Power Capacity +11.98%
    **: Heat Efficiency -12.00%
    TH: 6A Thrusters [+1]
    **: Dirty Tuning 5
    **: Integrity -15.00%; Power Draw +12.00%; Optimal Mass -12.50%
    **: Optimal Multiplier +40.00%; Thermal Load +60.00%
    FD: 5A Frame Shift Drive [+1]
    **: Increased Range 5
    **: Mass +30.00%; Integrity -15.00%; Power Draw +15.00%
    **: Optimal Mass +55.00%
    LS: 5D Life Support [+1]
    **: Light Weight 4
    **: Mass -75.00%; Integrity -40.00%
    PD: 6A Power Distributor [+1]
    **: Charge Enhanced 5
    **: Weapons Capacity -5.00%; Weapons Recharge +45.00%
    **: Engines Capacity -5.00%; Engines Recharge +45.00%
    **: Systems Capacity -5.00%; Systems Recharge +45.00%
    SS: 4A Sensors [+1]
    **: Light Weight 5
    **: Mass -80.00%; Integrity -50.00%; Max Angle -25.00%
    FT: 4C Fuel Tank (Cap: 16)
    MC: 4D Module Reinforcement Package
    MC: 4D Hull Reinforcement Package
    *: Heavy Duty 5
    *: Mass +40.00%; Hull Reinforcement +72.00%
    *: Kinetic Resistance +14.70%; Thermal Resistance +14.70%
    *: Explosive Resistance +14.70%
    MC: 4D Module Reinforcement Package
    5: 5D Hull Reinforcement Package
    *: Heavy Duty 5
    *: Mass +40.00%; Hull Reinforcement +72.00%
    *: Kinetic Resistance +14.63%; Thermal Resistance +14.63%
    *: Explosive Resistance +14.63%
    5: 5A Prismatic Shield Generator [+1]
    *: Thermal Resistant 5
    *: Integrity +40.00%; Kinetic Resistance -12.00%
    *: Thermal Resistance +60.00%
    4: 4D Module Reinforcement Package
    2: 2A Fuel Scoop [+2]
    2: 1C Advanced Discovery Scanner
    ---
    Shield: 680.1
    Power : 21.09 MW retracted (75%)
    26.66 MW deployed (94%)
    28.22 MW available
    Cargo : 0
    Fuel : 16 T
    Mass : 811.60 T empty
    827.60 T full
    Range : 23.07 LY unladen
    23.07 LY laden
    Price : 94,705,070 CR
    Re-Buy: 4,735,254 CR @ 95% insurance

  • @NinjaZXRR
    @NinjaZXRR ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t like the class 6 power plant
    I find even with engineering it isn’t all the powerful.
    A class 7 power plant and a class 6 shield generator would be great.

  • @BiGG_X
    @BiGG_X 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or does the propulsion of the Chieftain sound similar to Thargoid's?

  • @bangalorewolf5952
    @bangalorewolf5952 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to wait till March to get one. By the Gods, 'tis unfair it is.

  • @vincentthekeeper2163
    @vincentthekeeper2163 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an engineered FAS. Sadly this ship isn't for me :(

  • @Manawar
    @Manawar 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The price is a beta price... wont stay the same when released - I expect it to be more in the price range of an FAS

    • @StarlancerAstro
      @StarlancerAstro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No the beta this time around does not have reduced prices, all ships are full price on beta.

  • @callum2390
    @callum2390 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who needs at AFM? Just fly carefully and you’re safe.

  • @Ichibuns
    @Ichibuns 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still like my Python. Don't like bigger ships and the Python is a great all-rounder

  • @con_roxp
    @con_roxp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be a hell of a troll if this required a rank with Alliance. Who the fuck wants a rank with the Alliance?
    P.S. Its design, both the cockpit's and of the whole ship, is the only Lakon design I like.

  • @jimliu6409
    @jimliu6409 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dam I always thought the chieftain would be like an aircraft carrier in space. Also what alliance rank do you need to get the chieftain?

    • @schiefer1103
      @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim Liu there are no alliance ranks. FDev Decided not to bother with ranks...

    • @jimliu6409
      @jimliu6409 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thanks

    • @hakunai7227
      @hakunai7227 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not rank locked but I think i did overhear it being horizons locked

  • @siriusscepter
    @siriusscepter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it very much

  • @neilallso400
    @neilallso400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do you get the advanced plasma accelerators please??

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're a reward from Powerplay, I don't remember which faction other than it's one of the Imperial ones.

  • @Zuflux
    @Zuflux 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could tell you. Got a CTD while engineering, and now I can't play it :c

    • @zontarr8812
      @zontarr8812 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      u can clear your save in beta and start with an option of Horizons beta tester a Cobra and 100mils credits.

  • @mbarricelliwv
    @mbarricelliwv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much did it take to fully rate?

  • @TheEmeraldCurse
    @TheEmeraldCurse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should put a fighter bay in it. I think it could become quite the thargoid and bounty hunter ship with a fighter for support.

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Myles Miller It does surprise me when they dont at least give the option for a fighter bay when the ship has a big enough hull size and shape to encompass one.. I mean look at the Keelback, that has one, so why not the Python and Chieftain, especially the Python, which is not the most manuverarable of ships.

    • @Jazod
      @Jazod 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s maneuverable enough. If it had one it would be too much

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shawn the Sheep Its not just about manueverbility, its about the extra protection, firepower and tactical options a ship launched fighter provides.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Myles Miller I think without a dual fighter bay this would NOT be good against Thargoids.

    • @TheEmeraldCurse
      @TheEmeraldCurse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps, but that would require turning a class 5 into a class 6 bay, and that's a even more drastic change then only adding a fighter bay to the hull.

  • @gabor-toth
    @gabor-toth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know but this ship doesn't look very strong in combat. The shields go down way too easily and maybe you used a not ideal loadout but the firepower doesn't look too good either. It's more like a small ship in this regard. I'm curious how much I'll like this one. I'd like to see at least one more internal slot, too.

    • @MrShadowofthewind
      @MrShadowofthewind 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gábor Tóth It's main weapon is agility, it's going to be more agile then an assault ship, and that is also more about hull tanking with it's crap shields, so i think it's the same with this ship, the hardpoint layout is weird though i agree, why three smalls, would have rather had the boring, overused layout of two large/two medium, or three large even.

    • @InZomnia365
      @InZomnia365 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I has three size 4 military compartments... Put Reactive armor on it (instead of the Composites), Hull re-inforcements and put in an AFMU instead of the SRV bay, and it should hold up pretty well. Its meant for the same role as the FAS, which also has pretty bad shields, but good hull. Its hardpoints offering isnt bad, but the amount of small size hardpoints is unfortunate, since theyre not very good for a ship this size. But the Chieftain has superior maneuverability to the FAS (or any other ship its size), so getting shots of should be a bit easier.
      Part of the issue however, is that hull-tanking isnt very good with the current AI meta. Most ships (particularly higher ranked ones) use Plasmas, rails, and missiles, which does a lot of splash damage and kills module integrity along with your hull... So strong shields is definitely safer these days, as even if youre only down to 70-60% hull and trying to get away, your drives or FSD could be broken and youre left for dead.

    • @Link9164
      @Link9164 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrShadowofthewind at the moment in the beta the FAS is more agile and got more armor.

    • @TealJosh
      @TealJosh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the best way when it comes to shields for that ship is bi-weave shileds and rest is just hull tanking.

    • @gabor-toth
      @gabor-toth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, to be honest I don't really know what small hardpoints are good for at all. Maybe tickling the enemy so he dies of laughter? I'm flying a Python that's not even optimized for combat, it's a medium ship as well but it packs tons more punch than this one. And yes I know it's more expensive and everything but still, I would've expected something more from the Chieftain. Maybe it will be better in real.

  • @toddpeterson8653
    @toddpeterson8653 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ChaosWulff how much it cost to A rate?

  • @hakunai7227
    @hakunai7227 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like all of its engines should swivel to vertical for a much faster vertical take off with sacrificed forward thrusting speed. It would also be nice if there were a variant of the chieftain for deployable fighters.

    • @callum2390
      @callum2390 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hakunai That would be nice, similar to the Keelback’s engines.

  • @TairnKA
    @TairnKA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, how long would it take to move up from a Sidewinder to a Chieftain? ;-)

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +T'airn'KA I'm not really sure since things have changed a lot since the last time I had to do so, though I can't imagine it would take that long to do so... Ducky will be doing be just that next Zero to Hero season

    • @Doc4
      @Doc4 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd estimate a month or less of casual play if done smartly. Probably less. Grinding could probably get you it in a little over a week or two.

  • @KarlBarbosa
    @KarlBarbosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Meh? Honestly, it kinda feels like a slightly different Federal Assault Ship.

    • @schiefer1103
      @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Karl Barbosa higher DPS, better manouvreability and at least similar protection at lower cost with no ranks? That seems like a complete upgrade...

    • @hobomisanthropus2414
      @hobomisanthropus2414 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      FAS is a bit better at Hull Tanking/slugging matches I'd say (limited experience with FAS though and no experience with Chieftain yet) Chief seems like it'll lose more than it'll gain in terms of potential defense via evasion if you load it down with tons of armor.
      Chieftain seems more like a militarized ASP (Possibly a result of the ASP Gunship concept early on in pre-production?). You've got a considerable mass decrease, a cut down profile with less striking area than the tubby ASP-E and even ASP-S, much better Hardpoints and some Military compartments to dedicate to defense.
      Not a lot of people appreciate just how much survivability a slimmed profile can get you in this game. The difference between destroying Anacondas in a Cobra MK3 and turning into space debris can be measured in how often you can keep your front oriented such that most weapons (Especially Gimballs) miss even with dead-on lock in optimal range.

    • @TheWindigomonster
      @TheWindigomonster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least it doesn’t look like a brick

  • @JamilLynch
    @JamilLynch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you using a voice pack? If so, which one?

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a voice pack as such... when 3.0 goes live everyone will be able to use the Victor voice.

    • @JamilLynch
      @JamilLynch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ChaosWulff - Sci-Fi Gaming Great! Thanks.

  • @Mattreyu199
    @Mattreyu199 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how it looks, but what is this ship even supposed to be? A budget Python?

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much- it has an armor rating of 65 - the same as Python n Anaconda - that’s 5 better than FAS....

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mid range fighter I think, probably best if used for light hazrez patrols

    • @TheotherTempestfox
      @TheotherTempestfox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More of an Alternative to the Fed Assualt ship I guess, a mid range combat ship that at least currently doesn't require a faction rank grind.

    • @voidcat6876
      @voidcat6876 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think its suposed to be a vulture on steroids

    • @Mattreyu199
      @Mattreyu199 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I look forward to flying it around and doing some light combat but I can already tell I am going to get bored of it fairly quickly and go back to the Imperial Courier as my fun ship.

  • @RadioactiveLobster
    @RadioactiveLobster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Frontier should provide different variants of the same ship kinda like RSI does. Have this Chieftian and then another variant that is worse for combat but has better internals for exploration.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RadActiveLobster how dare you make such logical statements

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +RadActiveLobster it's not like there isn't even a president here (possibly misspelled that) just take a look at the Diamondback Scout and Explorer.

    • @BariiAlyn
      @BariiAlyn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be nice, but I'd still rather than a variety of operating systems for the ship; The combat model could hightlight target's thruster use, a "police" model could have been scanning capabilities etc, or have the different menufacturer's OS's look different (think Federation vs Klingon).

    • @lmarks1066
      @lmarks1066 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RadActiveLobster is

  • @Antifaith29
    @Antifaith29 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youd be better off with biweaves if an A rate is only 327

  • @holmiir5473
    @holmiir5473 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is this ship coming out?

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      iDreadbeard The Chieftain.

  • @TheShock88
    @TheShock88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these years playing this game and you still can't seem to manage your pips during combat, it's not a big deal but one would think that someone as passionate about this game such as yourself would eventually get good at pip management.

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Bryan Haha, aye... it seems to be one of the things I'm never gonna be good at ;)

    • @Sitarya
      @Sitarya 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      then why comment about it, Troll?

    • @TheShock88
      @TheShock88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about my comment suggests i'm a troll? I was simply just commenting about what i observed in the video, I was in no way attempting to piss him or anyone else off with my comment, so, no trolling here bud.

    • @phuturephunk
      @phuturephunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been playing for years as well and I still have problems with the pips. Just one of those things.

  • @TheJawaClan
    @TheJawaClan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get a different ship voice?

    • @cedsson
      @cedsson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the update

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ruben Garcia new voice pack in the update. You can change it in Livery

    • @kubel83
      @kubel83 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ruben Garcia though I’m on the the Xbox Scorpio, if I remember from the live feed correctly then I believe they changed that from the options menu. Audio or something or perhaps gameplay options. Worth checking out.

    • @shipcali
      @shipcali 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's actually in the Livery section of the starport services. At least that's where it's hiding on the beta. Good chance it'll still be there when it goes live but you never know.

  • @johndegnan5703
    @johndegnan5703 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed that the NPC's are ramming alot. I died a couple of times from it. I thought FD fixed that a while ago.

    • @scoobylew24
      @scoobylew24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Degnan LoL. FDEV "fixed" something...

  • @khaosbydesignuk946
    @khaosbydesignuk946 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the final price or just the beta?

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was no beta price, so not accounting for price balance before the ship goes live this should be the going rate for the ship.

    • @khaosbydesignuk946
      @khaosbydesignuk946 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that's very reasonable for a ship like this!

  • @DaScorp
    @DaScorp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't see a role for this ship... I have a FDL, clipper, cutter, Vulture. Why I need this one?

    • @schiefer1103
      @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ScorpTec heavy fighter. More DPS and manouvreability than a clipper and vulture, and manouverable enough too outurn a freaking VIPER MK III.

    • @DaScorp
      @DaScorp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      CMDR PLKarmann sounds really good! Thank you!

    • @schiefer1103
      @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ScorpTec gotta say tho, I rammed a Conda today (shields down) and my hull got down to 39% (tho I killed it right away).

    • @exarkun4084
      @exarkun4084 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Three months late but it's a great "disposable" ship for thargoid runs.

  • @Benno0441
    @Benno0441 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone fitted for exploring yet. Whats the range?

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did, in this video, non modded though

    • @Benno0441
      @Benno0441 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apologies Mr Wolf. I skimmed whilst at work.

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Benno0441 I guessed that was the case, worry not... hope it helped

  • @CMDROldDuck
    @CMDROldDuck 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much like your videos, but the last too feel over-edited. I actually enjoy watching you fight ships from beginning to end, but recently cuts leave most of the combat out, jumping from full shields to like 20% hull. Please consider leaving in the "filling", otherwise it's all bun and no burger.

  • @Ploskkky
    @Ploskkky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think 18 mil is at least 10 mil too cheap for this ship.

    • @schiefer1103
      @schiefer1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A.Plosky I think it is good it is basically a massive vulture, and the shields are basically made of Scarabs...

  • @agingerbeard
    @agingerbeard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How in the HELL are scanners not just one unit?! So asinine to have to sacrifice a slot for two scanners on one ship...........

    • @racegdod
      @racegdod 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they're two different kinds of scanners. The Discovery Scanner detects planeteary bodyes and so on and can do a basic scan of them. The Detailed Surface Scanner has more advanced scanner systems to catalogue a lot more then the Discovery Scanner can do.

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WTF does my sensor module do????? Lol

  • @humorousfool215
    @humorousfool215 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is the AI voice different?

    • @ChaosWulff
      @ChaosWulff  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been added in 3.0, you will be able to choose the new or old one... I guess there will be way more later on.

    • @humorousfool215
      @humorousfool215 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's neat. thanks

  • @dmaxcustom
    @dmaxcustom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haven't seen one of your videos since a good while. You still fight like crap, hahaha.

  • @MrVedeh
    @MrVedeh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the sheild are really weak for a combat ship IMO, it looks like they really intended it to go against targoid target since you can have a really durable hull.

    • @vonrosphe3098
      @vonrosphe3098 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you compare it with FAS (same price range), you will see that the FAS has less shields. And FAS is a good combat ship.

    • @jolichja
      @jolichja 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      von Rosphe it just isent a very durable ship if you take hull dmg all the time...

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      von Rosphe FAS is good but I wouldn't dare to take it to a CZ or attack a wing of Elites in Haz Res.

    • @vonrosphe3098
      @vonrosphe3098 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you compare FAS & Chieftain both have low shields and an ok hull. FAS is faster, Chief more maneuverable and more DPS. Not sure how good the canopy works for the Chief. Better to have a A-life support, i think.
      But if you manage to stay out of incoming fire the Chief should do a good job in combat.

  • @ferret1337
    @ferret1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    chieftain is alliance? man... i'm glad i'm a neutral high value cargo shipper. federation is screwed...

  • @zat-1-fury
    @zat-1-fury 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Space man lol

  • @MrRadialdrift
    @MrRadialdrift 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks more like a troop drop ship. It seems like it has an identity crisis or Frontier don't know what they are doing with ships anymore.

  • @CrimsonEsso
    @CrimsonEsso 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So a cheaper, more manoeuvrable and weaker Python that STILL cant fit Ship Launched Fighters and has shit for jump range. Yay... Whoopty-feckin-doo.