What Are the Two Wills of God? Ephesians 1:1-2, Part 3

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  • @lukemccullough2897
    @lukemccullough2897 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Pastor John for explaining Gods will this way!! I see so many verses in a new way now.

  • @michellehyde7750
    @michellehyde7750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its amazing there is so much meat in verses 1 and 2. Pastor John is gifted by Jesus!!

  • @thealmaherself
    @thealmaherself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you God bless you and all that watched this.

    • @jasonwilsno12
      @jasonwilsno12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      May God Bless you as well!

  • @terryhenderson3424
    @terryhenderson3424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    God is Amazing

    • @AtamMardes
      @AtamMardes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You thank God for giving you life & also for giving life to animals for you to take their lives away & eat them. You thank God for picking you out of many patients to recover from illness. *QUESTION:* Are you unable to realize how the religion scam has fooled you to believe in its imaginary God by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, ignorance, & arrogance?

  • @bonjushymn
    @bonjushymn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much Pastor John Piper for teaching God's Word!
    God bless you 🙏

  • @monicapurba5116
    @monicapurba5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Prise the lord

  • @bpstuff4261
    @bpstuff4261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way Joseph's brothers treat him in Genesis, is certainly not according to God's will (of command) but absolutely IS according to God's will (of decree) according to Genesis 50:20.
    God MEANT it to happen.
    A great passage to drive this teaching home.

  • @pierrelouisjose
    @pierrelouisjose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you Pastor John, and also all the team at Desiring God, to all of you God is not an ungrateful master, one day he will give you your rewards. It might not be on the earth, but In the heaven and the new earth where Rust cannot touch or corrupt. Thank you guys again for making those videos possible. LOVE YOU AND Y'ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY Heart.may the peace of the Lord be with y'all forever and ever. Also includes your loves one. Goodnight y'all

  • @Patty4JesusChrist
    @Patty4JesusChrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    God is so good, glory to Him alone!!🙏🙏

    • @AtamMardes
      @AtamMardes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am looking into becoming a Christian. Do you have any evidence to prove that hoaxer Christian writers didn't make up the resurrection story, decades after Jesus, by making up backdated fake eyewitnesses and testimonials?

    • @AtamMardes
      @AtamMardes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Huey Leadbetter Answer the question please. Do you have any real evidence (not just scholars' strong opinions or beliefs) to prove that hoaxer Christian writers didn't make up the resurrection story, decades after Jesus, by making up fake backdated eyewitnesses and testimonials?

    • @ayoobakrimi1519
      @ayoobakrimi1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      atam mardes If you're really considering Christianity, set a time to pray for God to reveal Himself to you. That can help you more i think. And i will personally be praying for you.

    • @AtamMardes
      @AtamMardes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ayoobakrimi1519 Hi, I don't have any evidence to prove the resurrection of Jesus was a hoax or not. Since you are 100% sure it wasn't a hoax, do you have any real evidence (not just scholars' opinions) to prove that hoaxer Christian writers didn't make up the resurrection story, decades after Jesus, by making up fake backdated eyewitnesses, testimonials, and disciple stories?

    • @ayoobakrimi1519
      @ayoobakrimi1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      atam mardes The evidence can be given only by God, that's why i asked you to pray to Him. Good luck with your searching for the truth.

  • @GodsDisciple
    @GodsDisciple 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your thorough teaching 🙏 of the Word of God. I am learning soooooo much. ❤❤❤

  • @jerryjoe2461
    @jerryjoe2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never come across this way of detailed analysis, making connections and close reading of the scripture. Thank you so much pastor..

  • @WilliamBranhamsermons
    @WilliamBranhamsermons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    our lord is Great

  • @Numbers_6.24-26
    @Numbers_6.24-26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So important to understand the difference

  • @maximusgay127
    @maximusgay127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will of decree = predestined Will of God
    Will of command = God's desired Will

    • @zimitroperez7006
      @zimitroperez7006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so was paul appointed by the command or decree of will ?

  • @jamesapayo3879
    @jamesapayo3879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen! Hallelujah!
    Light after light is being shade here!

  • @wesleyrocks1738
    @wesleyrocks1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How brilliant are these! How I thank God for giving our generation John Piper.

  • @maxaplin4204
    @maxaplin4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very good teaching.
    I like the labels 'will of decree' and 'will of command'.
    Every single thing that happens is ordained by God, although it is important to understand that this doesn't mean that human beings have no libertarian free will. God uses acts of libertarian free will as some of the building blocks to form his will of decree.
    Piper is right too that in Eph 1:1 Paul is saying that his apostleship is by God's will of decree. Paul is surely saying that God has brought it about that he became an apostle. He isn't just saying that God wanted him to become an apostle.

  • @josieg.3694
    @josieg.3694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you pastor this is helping me so much! I'm loving these videos!! God bless you.

  • @duarteshelia
    @duarteshelia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this teaching so much thank you brother john.

  • @randallblann1416
    @randallblann1416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the predestined understanding.God chose us to save us by his Son Jesus Christ because Gods will before we came in the World and the Will of God to bring his Son into the World

  • @adamferraz4454
    @adamferraz4454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    waiting for the next one!!!

  • @StudioNaKrajiSveta
    @StudioNaKrajiSveta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this! :)

  • @NicoleAbdullah
    @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #_YESTERDAY
    #_TOMMORROW

  • @NicoleAbdullah
    @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #_YES_SIR_DAE

  • @oldchicken1170
    @oldchicken1170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! This is the 3rd one to bless my socks off! This series is wonderful, thank you Pastor. I eagerly look forward to each one!
    May I ask what bible translation is used here?

  • @johnsantos8503
    @johnsantos8503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's good stuff!!! Praise God!
    I'm interested to do something similar, but in Brazil (Portuguese language). Can you let me know what app and device do you use? Thanks.

  • @valentinagrisalesgiraldo8974
    @valentinagrisalesgiraldo8974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a blessing of teaching, but I am left with a question and would love it if someone could solve it. The will that appears in verse 1 of Ephesians, is the will of decree because Paul was chosen before he was born and by his grace he obeyed, but also that will to be an apostle could have been frustrated by man if Paul had not obeyed the heavenly will, so I do not know if the type of will would change there

  • @BloodCovenant
    @BloodCovenant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "according to the purpose of his will" is translated in KJV, NASB and NKJV as "according to the good pleasure of His will" and the greek confirms that ESV didn't get it right while the other three did. Same thing for Isaiah 46:10. So the question is this, is "good pleasure" and "purpose" the same thing? Or am I just being nitpicky? Regardless, what an eye-opener this is!

  • @brycemendoza8402
    @brycemendoza8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John Piper: Look at the Book
    Me: Looks at Ephesians*
    John Piper: No, look at the Book - Looks at Romans, Acts, James, Isaiah, John, 1 Thessalonians, & Galatians
    Me: @_@

  • @billyr9162
    @billyr9162 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well here is where the little human beings have a little problem.
    God causes us to do everything that happens ie "this or that". Therefore when the human beings do something that's against Gods command It's God that is the one that caused the action to be against Gods command.
    And here we are some 2000 years later Hashing it out over that idea, truth... Whatever you want to call it.
    John MacArthur just raises his hands and says I can explain it.
    The longer I live it definitely doesn't seem like I'm deciding what happens. That's fur sure.

  • @disneyworldfavs2165
    @disneyworldfavs2165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does God say about the bishops and all the the saints ?? Shall we believe in them or we should believe only in priest

  • @NicoleAbdullah
    @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #_Eithier
    #_Ithier
    #_Rithier
    #_Nithier

  • @alicemartinez2054
    @alicemartinez2054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But, what about will meaning intention, or permission. are these other meanings?

  • @jayaseelanpatchy9132
    @jayaseelanpatchy9132 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who are the followers of Christ and who are Christians

    • @maxaplin4204
      @maxaplin4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Followers of Christ ARE Christians. Acts 11:26 describes followers of Christ as Christians.

  • @NicoleAbdullah
    @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #_CHRO-NICLES

  • @ernestakrofi5285
    @ernestakrofi5285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Bible says its Gods will that all be saved but still people perish.So how come they were able to resist God's will?

    • @isaacschlipp8169
      @isaacschlipp8169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Verses like that are precisely what the video was talking about. God commands all men everywhere to repent and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. One can infer then, especially because of that particular verse you're referencing, that its God's will, in the sense that it would please Him, that all come to repentance and not perish. Obviously, all men do not repent and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and perish as a result. So one must make the distinction: This is what God commands; in other words, this is man's responsibility to God, as opposed to what God soveriegnly decrees according to His divine purposes. God's chief purpose is to bring glory to Himself by displaying all His perfect attributes to their fullest extent. Romans 9:16-24 talks about man's responsibility in salvation, and God's soveriegn ordinance of it, "So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"

    • @maxaplin4204
      @maxaplin4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaacschlipp8169 I think you are mostly right, but I would disagree on one point.
      You say that God's chief purpose is to bring glory to himself, and I have heard John Piper say the same or at least something very similar.
      This is certainly ONE of God's chief purposes. But I don't think this can be his sole overarching purpose.
      We know that God sent Jesus to die for us in love. But love is surely about seeking the benefit of the person who is loved as the main motivation. So if God sent Jesus to die for us mainly as a means to gain something for himself, i.e., glory, then surely it wouldn't be love.
      This is one issue where I think John Piper has a poor understanding of things. I much prefer Tim Keller's thinking:
      'Why did Jesus die for us? What was Jesus getting out of it? Remember, he already had a community of joy, glory and love [in the intra-trinitarian relationships]. He didn't need us. So what benefit did he derive from this? Not a thing. And that means that when he came into the world and died on the cross to deal with our sins, he was circling and serving US [italics in the original]. "I have given them the glory that you gave me" (John 17). He began to do with us what he had been doing with the Father and the Spirit from all eternity. He centres upon us, loving us without benefit to himself.' (The Reason for God, pages 220-221)

    • @isaacschlipp8169
      @isaacschlipp8169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxaplin4204 I read John 17, and the majority of the chapter is actually speaking of the glory of God. Its important to understand that God glorifying Himself, is nothing like man glorifying himself. God is alone worthy of glory, because He is the quintessence of all things true, honorable, just, pure, and virtuous. For God to glorify Himself, is the absoulute BEST thing He can possibly do, and it in no way is self-centered, or detracts from the authenticity of His great love, compassion, kindness, and gentlness. Rather, it serves to highlight these attributes of His, so that we may know and come to a fuller understanding of just how AWESOME, and majestic He is!

    • @maxaplin4204
      @maxaplin4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaacschlipp8169 It is certainly right that God glorifies himself, and it is good that he does this.
      But I'm not so certain about some of the other things you said, although I will admit that my understanding of this issue is not at all clear.
      I don't really understand why God glorifying himself would be nothing like man glorifying himself. A priori, these things would seem to have quite a lot in common.
      And I'm not sure that God glorifying himself is the best thing he can do and it's as simple as that.
      Nor do I see why God glorifying himself wouldn't be self-centred. Surely almost by definition it has to be self-centred - in a good way, of course.
      But most importantly, you didn't answer my point about the cross. I think Keller is right that God's highest purpose in the cross was simply to give without looking for anything in return. So I still don't think that the highest purpose of the cross was for God to gain glory for himself.
      I do admit that this topic is kind of stretching my mind beyond what it can deal with, though.

    • @isaacschlipp8169
      @isaacschlipp8169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxaplin4204 Well, God is worthy of glory, and man is not worthy of glory. This is why there's a large distinction between the two. This is also why its sinful for man to glorify himself, and why the Bible teaches glorifying oneself is sinful and vain, because man is not worthy (Mat 23:12; Phil 2:3). For God, its fundamentally different, because He is actually worthy of all praise and glory, thus when He glorifies Himself, it is not merely in empty words or self-centeredness, rather He has and continues to display all His infinite attributes through His mighty works, the cross being a display of His righteousness, love, mercy, grace, humility, gentleness, and so many others; all pointing humanity to the most excellent thing in the universe, Himself. So I think we agree with eachother, there's just a problem with understanding how fundamentally different it is for God to glorify Himself, versus man. God genuinely loves humanity, He displayed this by sending His only Son to die on the cross while we were yet sinners; He also loves humanity by glorifying Himself, because He displays His glory not merely with vain words, but with mighty works of love, compassion, and righteousness, and in doing so points us towards Himself.

  • @kevinowenburress2435
    @kevinowenburress2435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is only His choice and the other choice only makes things worse against the churches that didn't choose the choice and came up with their interpretation that was wrong. The predestination is through the resurrection which may not happen. The other option is not life and not of life. As much as it seems like it would be. Decree is the destruction of all humans and no more humans being but only less until there are no humans. Decree is due to the rebellion of will that was offered in grace. So it is His council as such thaat there is one outcome of the world OR the other. Either you take the choice being given or you endure the wrath of decree. This does clearly include Rome as much as they would like to pretend and play pretend that having stuff isn't and that worldly isn't worldly. I don't have to do anything I can just see which one they want and the truth is accounted for. And the truth is that Jesus Christ hasn't returned yet and the resurrection could possibly not happen due to rejection of command, and therefore ceding to decree, which is what command was [about, accordingly what He decided.]

    • @Patty4JesusChrist
      @Patty4JesusChrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are you saying? Your comment is not clear,

  • @showtime5372
    @showtime5372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so in the case of it's God's will that all be saved,that's not command,so only other option according to this teaching is that it's God's sovereign will n all r going to be saved, universalism?all roads will eventually lead back to God??

    • @isaias9516
      @isaias9516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Piper does not believe what your implying. Unfortunately, you have also overlooked such passages as Isa 45:22. God commands sinners to be saved. There is not only an invitation issued in the gospel, but also a command to turn and be saved. Thus his will for all to be saved, is in keeping with Pipers understanding of his will of command.

    • @isaias9516
      @isaias9516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw there is also other verses that would indicate God's desire for sinners to be saved to be his will of command. Take Acts 2:40 for instance, "And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”

    • @showtime5372
      @showtime5372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isaias9516 okkkkk

  • @NicoleAbdullah
    @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #_dont speak to your mum and dad like thatrheymoghtbe yourparents bit they are my aunty and uncle im telling nanna and poppie on you

    • @NicoleAbdullah
      @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      #_dont speak to your mum and dad like that they might be your parents but they are my aunty and uncle I'm telling Nanna and poppies on you

    • @NicoleAbdullah
      @NicoleAbdullah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm telling on you I'm doubting on you I'm telling she'llee my want my mummmmmy and dadddddy

  • @mr.c2485
    @mr.c2485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not surprising that piper believes that the will of god is somehow related to his desires, demands, expectations, or wants for us.
    Problem is....that characterization of god can be perceived as dictatorial.
    There is a third will...
    This will is of a nature that provides for inheritance as a son/daughter. We have all heard of a “last will and testament “. Even the Bible is divided by two “testaments”. And yes...we have every reason to believe that scripture is the last will and testament of Jesus Christ...the author and finisher of our faith. That faith being the inheritance of grace to those in the family of believers. If what I’m saying is true, then the scriptures are designed to reveal our inheritance as sons/daughters of God who possesses all things. This is about possession people! It’s not about compliance to rules and regulations! Simply look at the terminology in scripture....inheritance, testament, heirs to promise, covenant, law, promise, etc. etc.....it’s all about the “will” of God. Not his demands or expectations...NO...but of provision/inheritance. Are we not heirs to a promise? Are we not sons / daughters? Scripture is meant to be promissory....not demanding.
    I was going to stop there, but I felt the need to add this question.....what must happen in order for a last will and testament to take effect? If you said...someone must die...then you’re correct. Are you putting the pieces together?

    • @loganfeller6737
      @loganfeller6737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good grief. The word "will" has multiple meanings in English and in Greek, but the 3rd "will" your referencing is not the "will" in this passage. The "will" you're talking about is diatheke which can be found elsewhere in Scripture. This "will" is thelema. Words and their context have meaning, and you're butchering this one...

    • @mr.c2485
      @mr.c2485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Logan Feller
      Of course I’m referring to the scriptures as a whole.

    • @CovenantBlackwatch09
      @CovenantBlackwatch09 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.c2485 that may be, but you're still missing the fact that diatheke means "will, as in testament or inheritance" while thelema means "will, as in intention." It is thelema that appears in this text, and therefore what is translated "will" cannot be given the diatheke meaning. That is a translation error.

  • @collinssheen8462
    @collinssheen8462 ปีที่แล้ว

    blah blah blah sheep.
    Have you any wool?