How many wills does God have?
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- When the Bible mentions the “will of God,” is it always describing the same thing? From one of our live events, R.C. Sproul considers the several ways we are to understand God’s will in Scripture.
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I am so happy I found R.C. Sproul on TH-cam I loved listening to him on radio and when I heard he passed away I felt I lost a dear friend.
Always good to hear this voice.
I miss R.C. Sproul very much.
Thanks R. C. Sproul *4 This Powerful, Blessful, Deep Perspective on "The Wills of God" From:- 1. The Descriptive Will of God, 2. The Perceptive of God & 3. The Sovereign Will of God 4 His Ways are Not Our Ways & His Thoughts are Not Thoughts 4 Our Great Almighty God Does Not Slack 4 He Counts Us Ward That Any Should Perish But Be Led 2 Repentance Written In Isaiah 55:7 & 2nd Peter 3:9* & May Our Great Almighty God Bless Yu R. C. Sproul & Lingonier Ministries So Very Much & Yu R. C. Sproul are Missed So Very Much.🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
another interesting question is, how many wills do we have?
one will?
multiple wills?
a good and a bad will?
can we change our will?
or do we have to choose between one will or the other?
are we even in control of our “will” if we can’t change it?
can we resist our will?
does denying our “will” mean that it wasn’t really our will, but instead it was our will to deny our “will” ?
idk.
If I told you how your will should be, knew what you thought, and corrected you for the rest of your life, "wouldn't that be a form of mind control?"
The word "will" is translated from a couple Greek words. Ultimately, they all mean "desire" or "want" whether informed or uninformed. So in our western world it's weird to say "Humans have two wills, a good and a bad" but not to say "I have to desires. One desire to do good and one to do bad." or 3 desires, 4, 5, 6. But you'd never say "3 wills, 4, 5, 6". They mean the exact same thing.
The will isn't a component of the soul. It's just desire. And we all have competing desires (wills) in ourselves.
Very good and fast explanation thanks.
He is one I can trust.
So change definitions according to whatever theology u have....nice.
I do not recall hearing him mention the 'two different distinctive Greek words in Greek.
So help me understand. He’s saying the Lord “is not willing that any (of us) should perish” is talking about believers?
Yes. No believer shall be lost from the Lord's hand (Philippians 1:6, John 10:28).
Yes in 2Peter3:9 the "any" and "all" that God is not willing perish but should reach repentance is the "you" He's patient toward. The "you/any/all" are the "beloved" in verses 8&1, these are Christians. The "beloved/you/any/all" are distinguished from the "ungodly/scoffers/unstable/they/their" in which the earth is being stored up in fire for their judgment. God is most certainly willing that the wicked face judgment. Just follow the pronouns to what's being said to and about whom.
@@SupralapSaiyan @Thomas Norton thank you both for the response.
No
God is talking about all man kind: How can the believer perish ? or how can you be a believer if you have not repented? 2 Peter 3:9
Why does God command things like an eye for an eye or genocide when that's clearly against His perfect will?
I appreciate RC Sproul breaking it down the way he does here. We tend to oversimplify the concept of "will" and objectify it as a thing that someone possesses. We oversimplify it by generally thinking of it as what someone wants and affixing decisions to action as the outworking of that very simple "want". There's far more to the idea of "will" than that.
What we refer to as God's Sovereign will being that which he decrees to pass is not an ability we have in any respect in the magnitude of God's capacity. God creates all things and as such his determining creativeness in no way is affected by anything he creates. He creates all things and sustains all things from beginning to end by no condition from creation. In contrast, we have no knowledge or understanding of anything outside of God's created order for there is nothing outside of his created order. Every determination of our heart and mind is conditioned on only that which is created by God.
From God's sovereign will comes God's prescriptive will. This is a definition of God's nature in his demands on his creation. We can call these commands, for so they necessarily are presented to us, but they are ethical and immoveable for God's character doesn't change. We aren't God and we don't have the right to make these kinds of demands on others aside from the establishment of governing authorities decreed by God. These creaturely edicts either align themselves with God's commands or they don't, but God's commands are the standard.
From God's character is his disposition. This is what God likes or dislikes, what he loves or hates. This shouldn't be confused with any movement to action, but is revealed in certain commands of disposition. We are commanded to love God and Sproul refers to here. We are also commanded not to covet. We think by not stealing that we are obeying the command, but if we never steal we may still covet and thus break God's law.
These kinds of things are all interrelated, but they are different facets of self-aware thought. So will is not a thing to possess, but a series of capacities that is a feature of moral foundation (God) and agency (people made in his image).
not complicated at all. He has one will, but calvinism has to make it two to make sense of no free will, etc. dangerous ground. God is not a liar or bipolar
RC Sproul was totally wrong on His interpretation of this verse. He twists the words to fit the TULIP doctrine of reformed theology. If one reads the verses preceding and following 2 Peter 3:9, you will realize that the Holy Spirit, through Peter, is talking about the last days, and the return of Jesus Christ. What promise is the Lord not slow about? The 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. God is patient toward all men, and wishes that none should perish. He is giving time to unbelievers to make the decision to choose Him, or reject Him.
finally some sanity. thnks
God does not have more than one will. God's will is identical to his one indivisible essence.
There is only one will and testament, the New Will and Testament.
Just get to the real point: (1 Timothy 2:3, 4) This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, WHOSE WILL IS that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH.
Truth does NOT include the teaching of hell, that is a strictly pagan concept and has no place in Christianity. Any preacher promoting such a lie does not have God's approval.
why do you change to "all sorts"? that is a sick twisting by ignorant calvs that claim translation errors, etc. wrong. God is willing forALL
His attributes conflict, his wrath his mercy, he's a jealous god ,created man in his image didn't turn out so well, made everything heaven and hell, says he loves you but may send you there. Your choice, not his fault when comes to clarity, the bible doesn't communicate well, how many Christian denominations are there? So lets not begin to describe his perfection, lets give him a bunch of wills to patch up his word as we cherry pick the bible and make the bribe sound better. Not convinced.
You could just say you don’t understand that bible. That would be much nicer.
@@KrazedPwner Oh I understand it well enjoy reading for it myself just like any book wrote by men. Don't need an instructor to read understand what any newspaper says or a Bible.
@@KrazedPwner Nicer, believe because large groups of people do has little to do with finding out if something is true. The exceptional claim requires a large amount of evidence to justify belief.
@@KrazedPwner Instead of having faith which could lead you to believing anything that you don't have the answers for I've come to the conclusion I'm ok with the phase " I don't know."