I feel like killervibe is an underrated ship and it needs to happen. Cisco and Caitlin don't like the types of people they would need to like to get together, but they would seriously make each other so happy as a couple! And it's really obvious that they both care a lot about the other person.
I feel everyone but caitlin and cisco know how they feel about each other and that its gonna take something huge and drastic that will.make them realize it and everyone will be like "about time" ❤❤❤❤ love these two!! I have shipped them since ronnie died. Always.thought that if caitlin couldnt be with ronnie she should be with cisco :) this video is absolutely beautiful and shows every part of their friendship and how they feel for each other ❤❤❤
such a lovely vid! i really love these two and their relationship a lot. (i ship them romantically, too, but i also just appreciate their friendship as a whole tbh.)
Okay, true. I appreciate their friendship a lot... and that's the biggest reason I ship them. but I definitely wish people/writers could see them as more than friends (not because guys and girls can't be friends, but because I love the slowburn friends-to-lovers trope).... I just always see people saying "awww, i love their friendship" and pushing aside the fact that there is room for so much more. :) hope that clarifies...
i definitely agree! and if i'm being honest, i didn't jump on the romantic-shipping bandwagon 'til season three, but i think that's because that's when the writers really dove deeper into their bond, and they're ABSOLUTELY each other's person. it's clear that the writers actually care about this relationship (it's definitely caitlin's best written one in comparison to any other character on the show imo) and i feel like it's typically one of those ships that would be MUCH bigger in the fandom if (*cough*) cisco was white, but hey.
TBH in s1, I saw the potential but figured I would hold off shipping because Caitlin was really in love with Ronnie, and I had a hard time seeing Cisco in any relationship at that time. In s2, I waffled back-and-forth because I felt like there wasn't enough consistent interaction between them. I think they've always had a great connection, but there was a lot of space between their moments and then the timing was always off.... But ever since I started shipping them also in s3, my heart has BROKEN so many times to think they might never explore snowvibe romantically. I don't really want to say it's a race thing. tbh, i don't see how correlation = causation. But I think a big part of it is because of Ronnie's ghost at the start of the show. And also because a lot of people were so happy that the flash showed a m/f friendship that wasn't romantic...
no, my reasoning for the race thing is only because of how many folks ship caitlin and barry (which is fine! to each their own) or caitlin with just about every other white man when caitlin/cisco has been SO much more well-written throughout the series. but in their case, they're always referred to as being more brother/sisterly than anything else...and when you look at fandom culture in general, their gravitation towards white het ships, however random the pairing might be, is consistent as ever. but that's just why i don't rule that reasoning out completely. doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, considering i myself didn't even see them in that sort of light for a couple seasons, ahaha. i was (and still am) a fan of snowstorm, so that could also be a reason why i wasn't really looking at killervibe that way earlier on? but i mean, there's also the factor that the show hadn't given cisco a proper romantic relationship 'til this season with cynthia, so most people generally wrote him of as the funny sidekick/best friend. (sorry this became a whole discussion fdjslak, i hope i haven't annoyed you with rambling like this under your vid, omg.)
First of all, discussion is not rambling! Secondly I love it! I thrive on fandom discourse. Okay i kinda see what you mean.... i never understood snowbarry or caitlin/julian or caitlin/jay shippers. At all. Like all those interactions all seemed way more forced or platonic... But it seems to me that snowbarry fans I think are just smooshing their fave girl with the main protagonist and idk the other relationships had no real development but they were supported by canon and you always get those people who love anything canon spits out. I don't see the whiteness of those ships as proof that snowvibe isn't shipped because of race... i guess i just don't think like that. i mean maybe a few people... but a whole fandom collectively hating snowvibe while loving quickwest and eddie/iris or westallen? and so many of the flash fans are young pc-minded millennials who care about representation.... and cisco is a fan fave. also, i was for some reason called racist once for shipping caitlin/cisco and not cisco/cynthia and so i really didn't like people assuming race was a factor in what i ship when it's not. it's hard to imagine people operating like that. IDK it just seems like the fandom friendzoned the both of them because they wanted a m/f friendship to be platonic to prove a point that boys and girls can be friends. and then the narrative was careful about the lines they crossed and worked hard to keep them platonic by making Cisco very non-romantic and Caitlin very sad about Ronnie. and now it feels like we kinda have half the fandom who loves Caitlin but I think there are also a lot of people who find Caitlin annoying (and tbh she has plenty of moments which I don't think are very great writing or acting).and most people love Cisco but others who get upset if/when Cisco steals the show. that can lead to people not endorsing the ship because they don't like A or B.
I GOT HERE THANKS TO CAROLINE VIDEO AND NOW I'M SCREAMING YOU JUST EARNED A NEW SUB BECAUSE THIS VIDEO IS GORGEOUS AND THESE TWO HAVE SUCH A BIG CHEMISTRY AND ALL THE HEARTEYES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH AND THIS SONG WITH THEM OMG I'M DYING THIS IS GORGEOUS I LOVE THEM SO MUCH AND THIS VIDEO IS PERFECT
Mia Winchester ohhhhh my gosh you are too sweet. This is my first and only time vidding them and idk any of the episodes or moments so this was a mess. You are too kind though.
Ahhh this is perfect!! I love at the beginning how you paralleled them trying to help each other move on, and then the whole rest of the video was amazing! I'm trying to vid them now, and you really inspired me ♥ And haha I get your "I will scream" comment, tbh if my friends or siblings looked at me the way these two look at each other I'd be worried lol...
turnonthelight hands down best comment "if my friends or siblings looked at me the way these two look at each other, I'd be worried" hahahahaha soooo true. There is a noticeable difference in the way they talk to each other. ♡u♡ I'm so glad to hear you've got a snowvibe video in the works. Let me know when it's up!!!
i totally agree!! i decided in season 3 i was going to commit to this ship. really i didn't have a choice. but uh it was harder than i expected. the snowvibe fandom is so small. so i decided i would need to make converts!
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THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!! THIS song is PERFECT. I'm a 10000% snowbarry shipper but I also ship these two and I do it romantically, if snowbarry can't happen I want snowvibe/killervibe!
ohifonlyx33 I'm so glad because a lot of the fans of this show are disrespectful so I love when i see fans that aren't and i respect that you ship killervibe and not my ship, THEIR AMAZING TOO.
as long as it isn't something like sick like pedophilia or violence, i let people ship what they want... i just ask that they please don't come into our little harbor and disrespect our ship... (and tbh in my experience, the snowvibe ship harbor is like... a paddleboat in a puddle tied to a post in the ground next to a massive lake full of other ships). Like, it's really hard to find good snowvibe content because search results just end up with a ton of snowbarry stuff that I really don't care about, so it can be frustrating... but I don't go over to those snowbarry vids and get upset that they ship it or start saying how I don't see the romantic connection... and that's all I ask of in return when I say that I think Cisco and Caitlin have a really deep bond and a lot of trust and affection and I want to see them become romantic. Just courtesy. No assumptions of racism or being called delusional.... both of which I have been irrationally called for 1. not liking CynthNO 2. shipping snowvibe and 3. not really liking/caring about westallen
ohifonlyx33 oh I'm the same way, I don't ship westallen but I don't go on those vids and disrespect them for shipping it and on tumblr I've been attacked for speaking my mind about not liking them and thinking s3 was the worst season of the show but I didn't really say anything bad and I got attacked, I get attacked for shipping snowbarry, I get it if ppl don't ship it but don't presume I'm racist when I shipped Eddie/iris lol but I get your point, and I think ppl should he able to ship whatever they want without needing to explain it or be called names, I mean I ship Damon/Elena and been called terrible names since the show started and I don't EVER disrespect other shippers unless they do it to me FIRST. if they do it to me I'm gonna respond SND if pll make it personal I definitely do. nobody should ever tear a person down for shipping something different, snowbarry is my OTP but I also ship killervibe too and if ppl can't respect that then they can gtfo lol
Merlin Fantasy135 I'm glad you can appreciate a video with an otp that isn't your first choice. That's hard for me. But as far as these two happening, I feel discouraged. Whenever Caitlin dated generic one-season-white-bread I rolled my eyes but with cisco dating what's-her-name, I've had to take a break cause it feels wrong.
I feel like killervibe is an underrated ship and it needs to happen. Cisco and Caitlin don't like the types of people they would need to like to get together, but they would seriously make each other so happy as a couple! And it's really obvious that they both care a lot about the other person.
I absolutely agree!!!
I feel everyone but caitlin and cisco know how they feel about each other and that its gonna take something huge and drastic that will.make them realize it and everyone will be like "about time" ❤❤❤❤ love these two!! I have shipped them since ronnie died. Always.thought that if caitlin couldnt be with ronnie she should be with cisco :) this video is absolutely beautiful and shows every part of their friendship and how they feel for each other ❤❤❤
Tyla Worster they do deserve each other. I wish they could be more like a couple.
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such a lovely vid! i really love these two and their relationship a lot. (i ship them romantically, too, but i also just appreciate their friendship as a whole tbh.)
Okay, true. I appreciate their friendship a lot... and that's the biggest reason I ship them. but I definitely wish people/writers could see them as more than friends (not because guys and girls can't be friends, but because I love the slowburn friends-to-lovers trope).... I just always see people saying "awww, i love their friendship" and pushing aside the fact that there is room for so much more. :) hope that clarifies...
i definitely agree! and if i'm being honest, i didn't jump on the romantic-shipping bandwagon 'til season three, but i think that's because that's when the writers really dove deeper into their bond, and they're ABSOLUTELY each other's person. it's clear that the writers actually care about this relationship (it's definitely caitlin's best written one in comparison to any other character on the show imo) and i feel like it's typically one of those ships that would be MUCH bigger in the fandom if (*cough*) cisco was white, but hey.
TBH in s1, I saw the potential but figured I would hold off shipping because Caitlin was really in love with Ronnie, and I had a hard time seeing Cisco in any relationship at that time. In s2, I waffled back-and-forth because I felt like there wasn't enough consistent interaction between them. I think they've always had a great connection, but there was a lot of space between their moments and then the timing was always off.... But ever since I started shipping them also in s3, my heart has BROKEN so many times to think they might never explore snowvibe romantically. I don't really want to say it's a race thing. tbh, i don't see how correlation = causation. But I think a big part of it is because of Ronnie's ghost at the start of the show. And also because a lot of people were so happy that the flash showed a m/f friendship that wasn't romantic...
no, my reasoning for the race thing is only because of how many folks ship caitlin and barry (which is fine! to each their own) or caitlin with just about every other white man when caitlin/cisco has been SO much more well-written throughout the series. but in their case, they're always referred to as being more brother/sisterly than anything else...and when you look at fandom culture in general, their gravitation towards white het ships, however random the pairing might be, is consistent as ever.
but that's just why i don't rule that reasoning out completely. doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, considering i myself didn't even see them in that sort of light for a couple seasons, ahaha. i was (and still am) a fan of snowstorm, so that could also be a reason why i wasn't really looking at killervibe that way earlier on? but i mean, there's also the factor that the show hadn't given cisco a proper romantic relationship 'til this season with cynthia, so most people generally wrote him of as the funny sidekick/best friend.
(sorry this became a whole discussion fdjslak, i hope i haven't annoyed you with rambling like this under your vid, omg.)
First of all, discussion is not rambling! Secondly I love it! I thrive on fandom discourse.
Okay i kinda see what you mean.... i never understood snowbarry or caitlin/julian or caitlin/jay shippers. At all. Like all those interactions all seemed way more forced or platonic... But it seems to me that snowbarry fans I think are just smooshing their fave girl with the main protagonist and idk the other relationships had no real development but they were supported by canon and you always get those people who love anything canon spits out. I don't see the whiteness of those ships as proof that snowvibe isn't shipped because of race... i guess i just don't think like that. i mean maybe a few people... but a whole fandom collectively hating snowvibe while loving quickwest and eddie/iris or westallen? and so many of the flash fans are young pc-minded millennials who care about representation.... and cisco is a fan fave. also, i was for some reason called racist once for shipping caitlin/cisco and not cisco/cynthia and so i really didn't like people assuming race was a factor in what i ship when it's not. it's hard to imagine people operating like that.
IDK it just seems like the fandom friendzoned the both of them because they wanted a m/f friendship to be platonic to prove a point that boys and girls can be friends. and then the narrative was careful about the lines they crossed and worked hard to keep them platonic by making Cisco very non-romantic and Caitlin very sad about Ronnie. and now it feels like we kinda have half the fandom who loves Caitlin but I think there are also a lot of people who find Caitlin annoying (and tbh she has plenty of moments which I don't think are very great writing or acting).and most people love Cisco but others who get upset if/when Cisco steals the show. that can lead to people not endorsing the ship because they don't like A or B.
I GOT HERE THANKS TO CAROLINE VIDEO AND NOW I'M SCREAMING
YOU JUST EARNED A NEW SUB BECAUSE THIS VIDEO IS GORGEOUS
AND THESE TWO HAVE SUCH A BIG CHEMISTRY
AND ALL THE HEARTEYES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AND THIS SONG WITH THEM OMG I'M DYING
THIS IS GORGEOUS
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
AND THIS VIDEO IS PERFECT
Mia Winchester ohhhhh my gosh you are too sweet. This is my first and only time vidding them and idk any of the episodes or moments so this was a mess. You are too kind though.
Ahhh this is perfect!! I love at the beginning how you paralleled them trying to help each other move on, and then the whole rest of the video was amazing! I'm trying to vid them now, and you really inspired me ♥ And haha I get your "I will scream" comment, tbh if my friends or siblings looked at me the way these two look at each other I'd be worried lol...
turnonthelight hands down best comment "if my friends or siblings looked at me the way these two look at each other, I'd be worried" hahahahaha soooo true. There is a noticeable difference in the way they talk to each other. ♡u♡ I'm so glad to hear you've got a snowvibe video in the works. Let me know when it's up!!!
Haha ♥ Yeah I'll let you know!
I FINALLY finished it lol - and I included you in the dedications :)
oooooh my gosh im freaking ooout i gotta go check it out now!!!!! ♥♥♥
@@turnonthelightvids D.C. I'm rmo
2:08 I love that scene where they dance together
THANK YOU FOR THIS ! We really need more killervibe videos !
i totally agree!! i decided in season 3 i was going to commit to this ship. really i didn't have a choice. but uh it was harder than i expected. the snowvibe fandom is so small. so i decided i would need to make converts!
yes
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Same here for an American government and vid of discovery and of course not run out on rug or something that
The only reason cuando was going s. And t have the ability e f the rest g in fighting my friends who understand why I'm going with you to keep
Thank!! ❤ i love killervibe❤❤❤
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!! THIS song is PERFECT. I'm a 10000% snowbarry shipper but I also ship these two and I do it romantically, if snowbarry can't happen I want snowvibe/killervibe!
I can absolutely respect that!
ohifonlyx33 I'm so glad because a lot of the fans of this show are disrespectful so I love when i see fans that aren't and i respect that you ship killervibe and not my ship, THEIR AMAZING TOO.
as long as it isn't something like sick like pedophilia or violence, i let people ship what they want... i just ask that they please don't come into our little harbor and disrespect our ship... (and tbh in my experience, the snowvibe ship harbor is like... a paddleboat in a puddle tied to a post in the ground next to a massive lake full of other ships). Like, it's really hard to find good snowvibe content because search results just end up with a ton of snowbarry stuff that I really don't care about, so it can be frustrating... but I don't go over to those snowbarry vids and get upset that they ship it or start saying how I don't see the romantic connection... and that's all I ask of in return when I say that I think Cisco and Caitlin have a really deep bond and a lot of trust and affection and I want to see them become romantic. Just courtesy. No assumptions of racism or being called delusional.... both of which I have been irrationally called for 1. not liking CynthNO 2. shipping snowvibe and 3. not really liking/caring about westallen
ohifonlyx33 oh I'm the same way, I don't ship westallen but I don't go on those vids and disrespect them for shipping it and on tumblr I've been attacked for speaking my mind about not liking them and thinking s3 was the worst season of the show but I didn't really say anything bad and I got attacked, I get attacked for shipping snowbarry, I get it if ppl don't ship it but don't presume I'm racist when I shipped Eddie/iris lol but I get your point, and I think ppl should he able to ship whatever they want without needing to explain it or be called names, I mean I ship Damon/Elena and been called terrible names since the show started and I don't EVER disrespect other shippers unless they do it to me FIRST. if they do it to me I'm gonna respond SND if pll make it personal I definitely do. nobody should ever tear a person down for shipping something different, snowbarry is my OTP but I also ship killervibe too and if ppl can't respect that then they can gtfo lol
Sara Kennedy same
I ship Cisco and Caitlin a lot and it makes me sad that it seems like its never gonna happen like why world why
Alana Rheinhardt it's so not fair is it?
Well, 2021 and never happens, i can't believe it😭
This is a beautiful video! These two are gems and one of my favorite parts of The Flash.
Teansy thank you!!! I agree... at this point they're the main reason I watch... and recently the lack of them is why I haven't wanted to watch.
I love their friendship
@@monicajasso339 this is an explicitly romantic edit.
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Cisco Ramon. 😍👰❤💋
Aww!! This is beautiful!!! You did a wonderful job!! I ship SnowBarry but I’m feeling like SB will never happen. But they very well could!! 😊
Merlin Fantasy135 I'm glad you can appreciate a video with an otp that isn't your first choice. That's hard for me. But as far as these two happening, I feel discouraged. Whenever Caitlin dated generic one-season-white-bread I rolled my eyes but with cisco dating what's-her-name, I've had to take a break cause it feels wrong.
Best vídeo ever!
that's when he made love
666 views. Weird.
Love it by the way!
not really, it's just the number between 665 and 667 anyway vthanks for the view and the comment
Soooo goood
I love this! Also what episode is the first scene?
Make more videos of this two
what episode is 0:46
Sweet
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What episode 0:39 , 2:11 , 4:02 ???
4:02 is on legends of tomorrow and its the crisis on earth X special
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Ikr??? They're adorable and it kills meeee.
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