Horizon Hobby - Turbo Timber Evolution - UMX - Unbox, Radio Setup & Maiden Flights
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I need to stop watching this channel, every time I do a new plane arrives at my door. you guys are great!
I'm so glad I can help enable your addiction ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC i hope you have an extra room,for when his wife divorces him.😂😂
We are in the same boat !
You saved my plane. On the maiden last year, my UMX Timber leaped into a porpoise on takeoff and nearly did a peter pan into the asphalt. Was in the fight of my life to land it. Had no idea mechanical trim was a thing until I saw this video. I would've just ripped off the slats, I'm glad I didn't. After mechanically trimming the plane, I took it out Saturday, it's flight resembles and now rivals my favorite UMX Tractor. Can't thank you enough for that pro tip
Excellent! So many little tidbits we try to share, and so glad it made a difference for you! Thanks for the feedback, and thank you for being here with us!
Just a quick tip on awkwardness with doing work on your TT UMX. If you take the top piece of styrofoam and flip it over, you can put your UMX upside down onto it and it makes a great platform to do work on it safely.
NICE! Great idea Rick!!!!
For the landing gear being pushed into the foam problem: I took a few small squares of regular paper towels, positioned them between the plastic and fuselage, soaked it in super glue and it is now an extremely hard layer that the plastic can't penetrate. Works well.
Good idea, I used white gorilla glue tape, it’s been solid ever since, just cut small pieces to go underneath fuselage.
@@jjs3287 yeah clear tape was my first try but the plastic punched right into it denting the fuselage
We did this years ago on our video - LOL - I have to assume you're a long time follower, and were just making a hilarious dad joke, just now ;) GOOD WORK!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC dude you caught that lmao. I did it to my original timber when I watched you do it. Genius. Friggin love how you blew up. I remember you flying outside your old house dodging street lights lolol
I used a small bead of clear silicone adhesive to cushion and hold in place. It's been good so far, and I'm beat em up with a 3s 800mAh bat.
The battery info was awesome now i get it thanks!! Have been watching lots of videos and read forums witch was frustrating but you explained it flawlessly!! Super thanks Brian!!
SOLD OUT TILL JUNE NOW!! So glad mine is on its way as i type. :-) Thank you for this amazing video. I have watched it twice now in its entirety!
Always an awesome video and completion experience with BrianPhillipsRC ! The best way to start my Day ! Thanks Brian and Megan ! :}
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Johnny!
Proud to be your 1st Patreon donator when it started!
Wow.. what a great little flyer. I have my old V1 UMX TT with 2S.. I can’t wait to see how it flies under 3S power and improved stiffness. It should hold up to winds better I’m assuming.
Another great VID Brian and always thanks to the “Camera Crew” for withstanding the harsh cold to bring new content to us hungry grownups (aka kids).
Very nice! :) Perfect for flying around the house.
Super, grab and go airplane. The flaps are really nice and with landing flaps I was able to drop down from 30ft or so, power off, and glide down to a super smooth landing. SWEET!
I love your videos with the way you review, and you are the MAN. We love ya brother.
Thanks!!!
I knew Horizon would do this. I couldn’t make myself like the UMX Timber X so I sold it. 3S and an improved backside is all this UMX Turbo Timber needed. Ordered one a few minutes after seeing the email. Way to go HH!
She's a winner!
Mr. Phillips always creating the best videos!
You are awesome Brian! Thanks for taking the time actually explain and show how to do it all.
Glad it was helpful! We try HARD to not leave out anything too important, but it would be impossible to hit every single question, so I feel real guilty when I can't get back to everyone on comments....so here I am ;)
thanks again for being here with us!
@@BrianPhillipsRC great to hear back from you!
I’m in Toronto Canada learning to fly and you’ve been super helpful. I have the SUS and the UMX Turbo timber evo.
Wow is taking SAFE off a different story haha
Off to buy some foam glue 😔
@@BrianPhillipsRC I unfortunately lost my UMX turbo timber evo on the weekend. Flew in some winds that were a little high, got too high…plane wasn’t fully recovered (wouldn’t roll left properly) and had to wave goodbye
Was thinking of getting the UMX timber X. I’ve seen your videos on the UMX X and her big sister haha. Do you think it’s best to stick with the evo if I can get my hands on one or give the X a shot?
Great video Brian! I learned a lot of useful stuff. Thanks!
Awesome! I’ve been waiting to see this video all day! Looks perfect, like I love my Turbo Timber but sometimes I wish I had a little bit more power! Really looks impressive! Should of had the floats out on the snow!
With floats, no more surface tension getting in the way of breaking from the water!!! I hadn't even thought of that!
I finally got this plane. It's my first hobby grade plane. Thanks for all the information on this one. Definitely a big reason I got this plane. I did figure out that you can get to that screw on the elevator without punching a hole in the foam. I just used my ifixit kit and was able to slightly bend the tab and take the screw out and adjust the trim then put it back in with no issue.
I built a foam board UMX Timber X, I've been flying it on 2S, yesterday I finally got a couple 3S 500mah 50c batteries and omg I've never flown a plane with unlimited vertical till yesterday and holy cow what a fricn thrill 😁 I just had to share this with ya!!! hehe
Nice flying Brian 👍🏻 Absolutely love the this plane!!!
Brian you're a great pilot. You humbly criticize yourself but you do a great job flying while narrating. Great work. I'm so happy to have found your channel. Thanks for all the work and information you put into all of this.
Great, clear practical advice. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! We really appreciate the feedback!
So couple weeks back I was playing with the UMX Turbo Timber in Real Flight and was thinking this is sweet little plane. Then my heart sunk when I found out this was discontinued. Then joy of joys, I get an email this morning from HH and this little joy is now available. Of course the first thing I thought was I need to go see if Brian has reviewed it yet. Dang not yet. Go get a cup of coffee, come back and refresh and boo-ya here it is! Just placed my order with the links cause I love to support you and your wonderful wife (camera crew)! Now then lets hope it gets here for my birthday that is in a couple of weeks! Love all your videos guys! Keep the long formats coming!
Thanks Michael, and I know some would be pretty worried, but this newer, better option is gonna fill the void near perfectly.
Hey Brian - I had exactly the same trim issues out of the box that you did. After seeing you mechanically adjust the rudder and elevator I sat down to do mine. I inadvertently bumped the elevator control rod while holding it with the pliers and it popped off the knuckle!! LOL - I accidentally figured out that you just pop them off, turn them to the right adjustment, them pop them back on!! Way easier that way - who knew?!
NICE!!! Wish I would have done that, but boy-o-boy, they were a pain without!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Absolutely. Like you, I completely ran out of trim on the elevator and the rudder was off by something like 20+ clicks. MUCH better now that it's adjusted! Thanks for the hugely helpful show!
Hi! i also had the same problem with elevator and rudder.Had to give 100% elevator adjustment and it still dont fly stright.Need some adjustment of the control rod here!
i did just pop em off and on again with my finger nails! love ur videoes Brian.I always go to your channel when i setup a new Eflite plane @@BrianPhillipsRC 🛩
I used a small set of ball link plyers I have for my helicopters to pop the control end off the ball link. I was never going to get a timber but Tower had almost half off scratch and dent sale so I had to get one. I loved the turbo timber so much after I flew it I ordered another for backup!! I love your videos Brian!!! You always do an awesome job and I'm so excited to see your place when the pond is finished!! Love what you and Megan are doing for the hobby!!!
Just watched Horizon Hobby's preview vid.. Awesome plane, gotta get one!!! hehe
we all were hoping for this!!!
I,m sooooo excited, I just bought the new UMX TT Evo!!! Everywhere had them back ordered until June and I only had to drive 65 miles to put my hand on one, now if the weather will cooperate I'll be flying tomorrow!
Looks fun Brian😊
Brian- greatest complement from Horizon Elite Support when I told him of the issue you had. “I must say, there is nothing more thorough than a Brian Phillips RC Product Review. By the end of one of his videos, you know everything, good or bad, with the product. I will definitely pass on his discovery and technique to the product team.”
LOL - nice!!!
Thanks! Your reviews are SO much more complete than those of the rcsaylors.
Rcsaylors are garbage haha
Thanks! I don't mean to pick on the Saylors, but love to hear that we've struck a chord with your needs!!! We love this stuff, and even in it's "imperfect state" there's some very good things coming from all the major brands right now. We're honored to be in a position to help showcase these products.
Alright Mr. Brian , I now have the DX7e. It is a game changer. Thanks for the advice.
I told you!!! Glad you sprung for it.... now for some more planes ;)
@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks again ! This video helped me understand how to better program it. It wasn't clicking for me. Have a great Week Sir.
Order placed!
I do appreciate your effort to teach basic things for new folks. Charging is alway a mystery to folks, and is the one thing you need to do right AND respect. Charging is the one thing that will burn your house down if abused. How do I know? Back at the beginning of Lipos I came close to starting a garage fire due to an accident setting up a charger that didn’t have a balance port (they were just coming into existence). Fortunately I stopped charging when I saw the puff and got worried, I set battery in driveway to be safe. 1 min later, a pop and then a massive blue hot flame that would have set my garage ablaze. Lesson learned.
1C standard charging, and storing batteries at 3.8ish/cell in cool place like small fridge gives you years of use.
Keep up the great service!
yep
Merci pour le clip je suis du Québec
I think I just found my next plane! Great video Brian! Have you seen the new freewing airliner? I think you need one of the those! Megan, 100% THE BEST camera crew!!
I received my brand new NX8 today. I did buy it from your link to help you out. This plane looks like a good starting point to get back into RC, even tho it is small. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Lee! It will help out, and you'll love it! Good luck
One of my FAVs! I switched out to xt30 and run 850 mah 3s , Velcro on battery and on place cg
Very fun plane!
I was totally thinking about making this thing take a bigger battery. The battery tray/opening is HUGE, and she flies like she could handle more payload. Now I need to play with this idea some more. Thanks Hola ACchillin
I put a 3s 800mah battery in it and it flies fantastic with the added weight in the front!
Nice!!!
I had to do the same adjustment on my Timber X. I pre-ordered one of these!
I like the flying in the snow flakes even better man. I'll get that one through you next week cause I want something to jack around with that's no hassle. But good job man. 👏
Thanks, and snow flying is so much fun, but way more fun if it's coming straight down!!! This was WINDY and snow ;(
@@BrianPhillipsRC except you made it look smooth and EZ.
Beautiful 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I wish I knew what half of what you said means. I'm sure I'll learn it. I received this plane today. It is my very first RC plane. My 3s batteries arrive in three days. That being said, I probably won't fly it for at least a month. I want to spend many hours training on RealFlight 9.5 before trying to fly the real thing. Thanks for this video. It's great to get some tips before taking the first flight.
bro your flying is amazing and your wife is amazing
Thank you so much!!!
Cool! Liked!
Thanks!
I just got mine today. Both aileron servos were stuck. Weird. Got those freed up and I love it. Flys awesome. The envelope is huge on this model.
It's still on backorder everywhere I have looked here on the east coast.
@@marquisbetz7694 I got mine at hobby town. Was the last one, display model hanging from the ceiling;). I’ve got about 12 flights on it now and love it. It’s so cool.
Great video! i believe those are ball links you need a pair of ball link pliers to take them off or try a small flat head screw driver.
All you needed to do to adjust the elevator ball link is to put a little flat head between the horn and the top edge of the ball link and twist. The ball will pop out of the plastic quite easily. Make your adjustment, then pop it back on by pinching it between your finger tips.
Looking fowrad to getting mine when they get here.... (Switzerland)... we cannot have enough Timbers... ;) I always loved the UMX Turbo Timber, but I am happy I can get 3S power now and that will help to fly it in more windy conditions.
It will definitely help!
Remember on ur transmitter, you have a sub trim option.
That sub trim option allows you to put the transmitter settings basically back to a new neutral, for lack of better words.
Anyway, mess around with that one day after you have trimmed her up.
no way thats a thing???
@Carl 0s yeah it is lol.
Almost no one uses the function.
I've rarely ever seen anyone demonstrate how to use it.
@@todtalk3912 I've used sub trim settings several times. Comes in handy if needed.
It is a great looking little plane. Might have to replace the umx timber x as my gym flyer. I bet this one slows down more.
3s Hell Yeah
Great video Brian. You can’t have too many Timbers in my honest opinion!
100%
I wish Eflight would come out with some quick adjustments for these.
Also, I didn't mind the little U shape adjustments.
Yeah, it's cool to see real linkages.
However, at least make the screw easy to get to.
I agree..."U"'s were fine in my book...but I guess later on, with some of the next generation UMX'es coming soon, the ball links are gonna come in handy ;) ;) :)
@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah I def agree. Valid Point.
I flew the UMX TT and the Skipper in double digit winds yesterday from the boat. You just have to land down wind to get her back. I think reverse thrust would only sink the tail. I don't even use reverse thrust on the only water plane I have with it built in (Avios Albatross v2). I also think 3S is just silly on this plane. UMX Timber X, yes. But not the TT. Still, that shows how good the UMX Turbo Timber really is. Fresh lipstick is all they could come up with to "evolve" it. LOL. As luck would have it, I prefer the red.
No need for hole! :)
When I went to do link adjustments, all I had to do was pop the ball-link off, adjust, and put back on. Maybe your early production was setup different.
These will fly fine with a 3s 800mAh bat. But the landing gear take a beating with all that extra weight. I'm not greasing anything, yet. But, I'm new.
All the Foam2Foam and HD clear packing tape doesn't detract from these new UMX's either. Take my word for it 👍
I like when the camera person gives wind speed and direction. You should add that to future vids as standard.
That nose in looks familiar! Apparently the elevator servo sticks as it did on my brand new turbo timber. Mine stuck in a dive and was a total loss. Since then I’ve heard of it happening to others. Looks like they still haven’t fixed the issue even on the evo…
The Saylors also ran out of elevator trim - (or nearly so).
I'm surprised that Eflite didn't provide an elevator trim hole during manufacturing.
I didn't catch their video, but saw some of their Instagram blasts. It was an easy fix, but still kinda annoying
I think a ultra low profile screwdriver/ratchet may do the trick for elevator adjustment
The umx timber x had the same issue with mechanical
Adjustment of the elevator. Horizon even had a short video on it. I believe if you trim full up elevator you can get your screwdriver through the hole in the vertical stab and just be able to get to r the elevator ball link without putting a new hole in your fuselage 😬. They also recommend to reinstall the ball link on the outside of the control horn for easier adjustment I. The future 👍
Thanks Travis, and I'd still probably just heat up the driver and plunge it through, if we hadn't have been in such a hurry at the moment. I do wish they would have put it the other way, but think the control rod would have bound more in that direction :(
@@BrianPhillipsRC definitely looks like it would be a pretty steep angle mounted on the outside. I didn’t do it on my timber x for that reason but horizon said it would be ok 🤷♂️😂
some of those lipos are scary puffy
This NEED a 2nd thought preorder already sold out in uk 😂
"i win you win we win together" brian mf phillps RC BABY!!! WOOOO
Thanks! We do all win ;)
I got mine and crashed but fixed it with hot glue. works just fine now
I preordered mine finally got it 6 months after I seen this video September 26th and still has the same problems as yours did. Horizon Hobby better step up their game otherwise foreign competition going to take over the hobby
You're JUST getting it now???? REALLY???? That's crazy! Very sorry for your wait!
@@BrianPhillipsRCI got it yesterday 😂 your video helped me a lot thank you
It's a bit late but it looks like your leading edge slats are touching the wing on the trailing edge. The slats are supposed to stand off the wing and allow air to pass under them. This slows the air over the wing creating more lift.
If you could see closer, you'd see there is a gap. It's very small, so understandable hard to see on even our video.
BUT yes, there is supposed to be a gap, as you said.
Throttle trim is off the left stick and elevator trim is off the right stick....me thinks Brian is a bit dyslexic? Haha had to jab you on that one! Great Demo Dude
Thanks and LOL ;)
So they replaced the motor to a lower KV which allows 3s lipo and changed the color, alright I am in :). That is the mod I did to make it fly 3S and its really fun !
NICE…
Totally!
I want umx warbirds with retracts lol, or at least 800 MM size would suffice.
Retracts would be sweet, but they're so light. A guy made some into his P-47 years ago on TH-cam...about the time I was adding flaps to my UMX planes...and loved them! I think he used a single 5 gram servo to pull a linkage between the mains - was super cool!
Great Video Brian. I need help on my umx tt evo. I need to mechanically adjust my rudder and elevator but cannot find a ball link pliers small enough for this plane. Any suggestions?
Mate she lets you work on the kitchen table. 😊
Horizon hobby have a video on how the adjust the elevator manually without make a hole in the plane. Its a video of the Timber X. Just bend the elevator slightly to get the tool int the screw.
But this is not the Timber X, so I can't say if it's the same. Honestly, the extra hole isn't a big deal for me, but some might be more concerned. If I had to do it over again, I'd head up the screw driver first for a cleaner hole
Spent a lot of time figuring out how to charge the 2s without the discharge lead, could've watched your video instead 🤣
which one do you prefer for flying in tight spaces ? the umx timber evolution or the umx timber x.
Brian, Thank you for the explanations. Are you able to Program Crow into this plane?
P. S. Awsome Ball Joints on Control Rod U kidding Me!! Salute Horizion !!!!
For $169.00 Hellva Deal
U should've sent plane into geeze V pattern & disturbed it... Would've been interesting to c how they reassemble.
My Man, With that perfect snow I would have thought that you would have also included a clip with floats on it. Hint Hint LOL
Perfect plane for those who need (in reality, WANT) more power vs the UMX Turbo Timber! My UMX Timber X is crazy powerful on the 3s 300mAh battery. This UNX TT Evo should be similar in power, if a little more docile in handling.
Try the umx voodo p51 motor in umx timber x. A good amount of more top speed and nice quiet sounding motor... No more squealing
@@jonnycatt138 interesting thought. I might try that in the UMX Timber X that I restored recently. Then I can compare it with the other one I have that’s factory stock.
@@Joe_Zajac for sure. Let me know what ya think
Just realized the UMX TT Evo has the same SPMXAM1208B motor as the P51D Voodoo, so forget what I said about being more docile than the UNX Timber X. As Jonny Catt suggested, I’ll upgrade my X with this motor and.see how they compare with motors being equal. I assume this motor using everything else in the X as is won’t burn out the ESC on the X…
It sure is!!! 3S on this particular plane was never "Necessary", but the P-51, P-47, and a few others really screamed for more power ;) I still think more power is generally a good idea on planes. It really saves planes lives!!!
Thanks! Please respond to my recent comments on your new Conscendo video and the UMX Turbo Timber evo.
It's actually easy to pry the black plastic linkage off of the ball, make your adjustment, and snap it back on the ball. No need to puncture your nice new airplane. I'm just saying. :)
If you can do it without damaging the control horn / elevator, this is always better. A few people pointed out my mistake a while back, but honestly, I don't mind making access holes to get a screw driver in there. I used to do it all the time on AILERON servos...you know how you can't usually get the control arms to pull off without first removing the screw...without this diagonal hole/channel down to the Phillips head screw, you'd have to do even more work to get in there...worked like a charm then, and still now, if necessary.
Finally, my ball link pliers are too big for this one, if I remember right, but to all their own - thanks for the tip
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks Brian. It's been ridiculously hot here in central Texas this summer. Watching you fly in the snow was good for my mental health. LOL Plan on ordering this plane soon. I'll be sure to use your link.
Let’s see…a new Vette or a Turbo Timber…I’m going with the Timber. Save a few bucks and still have fun!
LOL - Seems an unfair comparison ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Well…I can AFFORD the Timber!
Did you add the slats right away or did you fly it without them before deciding to put them on? Haven’t flown mine yet but not sure if I should put them on or not
Awsum love the new look I want one love the ariginal one she is all banged up lol.
Might be time for an upgrade ;)
wonder if its worth installing the Leading Edge Slats on it ... what are the Pros and Cons?
Tail heavy talked about over confidence. I flew the UMX TTE in 10 MPH winds with 22MPH gusts and it was the hottest day this year ie thermals were a factor. It was a mistake. Still at the stage where... You'll know it when you take off and immediately think what have I done? Your instinct will be to just land and call it a day. Here's my takeaway. Takeoff and do repeated base to final. But it would not descend in the headwind. So I got it hanging there with forward pressure on elevator. Realize, we're still in takeoff flaps. Flip the switch, maintaing throttle and elevator and the UMX TTE came down like an elevator, touched down like a daisy. But I should've never taken off in the conditions today.
That sounds like a pretty awesome experience. It felt so weird when I got my first plane in the air, the 1220 Ranger. When it starts making lift so quick, I realized that brakes don't exist in the air ! You've got to bring it down or it won't be in one piece anymore !
@@newjargon1697 that's one beautiful bird, RTF EP foam and steerable nose? . Pardon my french but a big bitch for a starter. Don't get me wrong my hat is off to you. I would've never had the stones to start on a Ranger. But you totally realized an important aspect on your maiden. How do I slow this to land this, or do I fly it into the horizon, Calmly drop the transmitter in the trash, Strip off the gloves into the trash and calmly walk to where I'm parked. "Hello there, beautiful dog you have there. Yeah, my kid is playing soccer.... He's number.... Hey look squirrel."
How come we didn't get to see the first maiden flight? I got mine last Friday. Been terribly windy here all spring but had a surprise lull Sunday. First flight lasted only seconds and if it is repairable it will probably require some new foam. I put the CG right on 28mm and the plane was uncontrollably tail-heavy. Even you crashed. Reminds me of the debacle with the UMX Timber X where they moved the CG several mm. I'm so disappointed right now, to put it mildly. Saw another guy's video on this plane and he put the real CG at 35mm and it flew great.
Non compliance is my solution to the FAA.
Have you, or anyone else, experienced the Elevator locking up? This is mentioned in other videos.
Lights. Low and Slow. And heavy wet snow.
What's not to like?
Brian, will the S44 charger work for the 2S n 3S batteries for the Turbo Timber Evo? THX, GARY
I'm looking at buying a umx to learn to fly I am not a complete novice so I'm going to buy either the umxnair tractor or the timber umx what would you suggest.
Thanks
Bill
Are these out yet?? I need one! Lol
Hey Brian, Just Use Them Small, Light Weight Velcro Dots On The Slates, Then You Can Put Them On & Off Easily! 🤔 C@@L Y'alls Flyin In That Snow Blizzard! 😜🤣😁😎
Thats a great idea
Wouldn't those raise the slat a bit higher off the leading edge? Not enough to matter?
@@BillKisel I've Found Some That Are Paper Thin + 3/8" Dia On Ebay That Work Great... 😁😎
E-flite needs to make more scale helicopters
Oh my, i cant wait for the Umx Draco, Umx Cub, UMX Timber, Night Timber, Night Turbo Timber.... Horizon stop please stop re-😊releasing the same stuff and launch something Absolutely new and fresh already
I want some of the older stuff re-released myself...like the P-47 UMX, and F-4U UMX, and Sport Cub S2 (only brushless and still super light)...but I know for a fact, the new stuff coming WILL BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF!!!!!!! Stay tuned!!!
@BrianPhillipsRC i hope so.. to see something like a yf-23 or even a fun edf that has a twin 70mm or just a fast 80mm from horizon would be great..
Id love to see a 70mm edf that has speed and agility..
Hello Brian you broke the prop on your slow stick, can you tell me what prop you changed to on your new slow stick ?
great umx flyer Brian, do you think the 3 blade prop will fit the umx timber x?
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I don't actually know, but the Timber X is WAY more aggressive in general, so not sure how this will work out.
"we don't call her camera crew off camera"
Immediately I start thinking of hilarious moments where you can call someone camera crew.
"And do you, Brian, Take this lovely camera crew to be your wife?"
"I do"
What's up Brian. My main question is how can you compare the flight of this plane compared to the Timber X UMX? The Timber X UMX is one of my favorites to fly. Especially here in Ft. Lauderdale where my flying area size is small. Its hard to find a place to fly in this concrete jungle.
Timber X is more Crazy than this, but both can be flown in a small space. This one is SLOWER, and with leading edge slats installed, you can really go slow, if you wish. I prefer inboard flaps, so this one wins out over the Timber X for me...BUT the Timber X UMX is less crazy than the 1.2m counterpart vs 1.5m Turbo Timber Evo.