He might as well have been President. He had every president that he “served under” terrified of him and what evidence he had on their criminal and/or immoral activities. If you’ve never read Curt Gentry’s biography of J. Edgar Hoover I highly, highly recommend it as it is a fun and absolutely *fascinating* read.
Simon, J. Edger Hoover was the founder and head of the FBI until his death in the 1970's. Herbert Hoover was the President at the start of the Great Depression (until FDR got elected in '32). Also, Bonnie & Clyde predate FDIC insurance, so the money stolen in a bank robber was not backed by the federal government so the lost was taken by depositors. That's why towns people were so keen to fight back.
I would love to see edits like: Simon says “Like future president J Edgar Hoover??” A screen flashes up that says “No, you’re thinking of Herbert Hoover.”
J. Edgar Hoover was a real piece of work in his day; iirc he had MLK on the FBI's watchlist for 'communist ideology'. And Herbert Hoover is now frequently considered by historians & polled as one of the worst US presidents. I can't fault Simon for mixing up two 20th century US Hoovers who were both reviled by many. Also I'm learning that I enjoy saying & typing the word 'Hoover' :)
Thank God that never happened. Bad enough that he had blackmail files on every president he served under. I use the word “serve” advisedly. He had a gambling addiction so became friendly with mafia guys while he swore there was no such thing. A “longtime confirmed bachelor” running for office would have been a bad idea.
My sister has hens, and back when she was with her now ex-husband they'd accidentally gotten a rooster along with the hens. He was so aggressive. My sister could hardly tend to the chickens and while she was okay with him trying to attack her, he started going after their kids. The now ex-husband took care of that in a hurry. I've known some sweet roosters, but most have definitely been protective if not outright aggressive.
I remember as a kid we had one boy he was MEAN. I was maybe 5 or 6 before my dad finally whacked him 😅. Had some 'guard' turkeys too. Pair of toms always on their own would take any chance they had to flop you.
Oh, they fear something, alright. Found out that beating a metal trash can lid with a stick scares the 💩 outta 'em.😂 It also works well as a shield when you gotta go into the turkey pen.
“WHY IS CLYDE DRIVING??” Control issues, if I remember correctly. Being the passenger made him incredibly anxious. Which I’m going to assume would be bad for everyone’s health.
I'm distantly related amd I have the same control issues in vehicles. Some of the details of Clyde are actually incredibly similar to my life and is crazy
i found this quote, quite fitting for the pair: “In a country that doesn't discriminate between fame and infamy, the latter presents itself as plainly more achievable.” ― Lionel Shriver, We Need to Talk About Kevin
YASSSS I was listening to this, not watching it, and when he got to this part I told myself I had to go back and see if they showed a clip of the end of Thelma and Louise at this part. They didnt, but my god I was shouting THELMA AND LOUISE when I heard this 🤣🤣🤣
Chemistry and first aid PSA: If you suffer a chemical burn, don't try to neutralize it with the other side of the ph scale. Just use water to wash the acid (or base). The heat of the reaction can further burn you and make the injury worse.
2:07 In 1934 in rural America, a rabbit as a gift was not a big obligation for the gift-ee. Whenever they ceased to want it as a free new pet, it would become a free new lunch. The past.
@@allenbedingfield2888I grew up eating rabbit too, all while having my own pet rabbits. They’re cute little fuckers but my god do they taste good fried next to some potatoes. 😁
I grew up on a dirt poor farm in very rural North Dakota back in the 1950's. A rabbit was. a wonderful addition to our table, it was meat after all and when mom prepared it like she did chicken it was very tasty as well. Just lost mom on New Years Day I shall miss her greatly, she was one month shy of her 98th Birthday.
In relation to the name Art, I heard a joke literally yesterday about that. What do you call a man with no arms and no legs stuck to a wall - Art What do you call 2 arms and 2 legs stuck to a wall - pieces of Art
1. Three hours? God damn. 2. Bonnie saying she didn't want to kick her ex husband when he's down and Simon countering with well he seemed to like to kick you while he was up is straight savage. I laughed out loud at work for seemingly no reason cause people don't know I secretly listen to this while working. Now they probably think I'm higher then they already know I am.
I accidentally comment out loud occasionally when I'm listening while running errands and depending on the episode ....I can't even DESCRIBE the looks I've gotten 😅
I work as a recreation therapist for mentally disabled adults and we will often connect our phones to the speakers to play work out music during warm up’s. I turned off the “auto connect” associated with that speaker because I absolutely terrified someone’s going to accidentally connect the phone to the speaker since my office is just on the other side of the wall. I do not need my coworkers or my students to suddenly have Simon talking to them about death, murder, and other violent crimes on full blast and I don’t know because i can’t hear the audio playing in the next room. I just started using my iPad for the music but I am still paranoid my boss is going to start thinking I’m plotting a murder or something. With the amount of true crime and legal commentary I watch on the daily I give it a 50/50 chance I am on a watch list of some sort at this point. If anyone I know dies under sus circumstances I am completely screwed lol.
My father (born 1920) grew up in West Dallas on the right side of the tracks. As a teenager, my uncle went to Bonnie's funeral and the big event was a small plane flying over and dropping a wreath in front of the funeral home. Much later, my father was an official at the church which owned the graveyard where Clyde and Buck Barrow are buried. People kept stealing their headstone, so one of the church men attached it to a massive slab of concrete and it has not been stolen again. I still have the key to the graveyard that my father left me.
"You could just own a machine gun back in the day?" Mr. Whistler, you could buy a fully automatic Thompson submachine gun from a Sears and Robuck magazine, and have it delivered via the U.S. Postal Service at this time.
Very good point. After a quick gander, it looks like the National Firearms Act (NFA) was enacted in June of 1934, the same year, but months after these two loves birds died.
@@jnothanks My great-grandfather and my grandfather had matching JC Higgins model 29 & 30 that were both fully automatic .22 long rifles. The only difference between the two is which side the spent casings ejected. They were the right and left-handed models. I went through a nightmare getting the license to inherit them.
My great grandfather was a moonshiner (in Texas) and preferred Ford V-8s. He was pretty sure it was the fastest thing around, but rumor was that a Sheriff a few counties over had a Cadillac that was faster. Great grandpa was pretty sure, but he'd decided he should have back up. So as he and his brother took off for the drive they put my 8 year old grandfather in the trunk. With a few bags full large rocks. So off they go. Once my great grandfather spotted the Sheriff in question he floored the Ford. It started off reasonably well, but it wasn't long before the Sheriff in his Cadillac was catching up. As the Sheriff got closer and closer my great grandfather reached back rapped on the trunk. My 8 year old grandfather popped up and dumped the bags of rocks. As the pelted the Sheriff's car it destroyed his radiator, stopping his pursuit. At least that's the family legend. My grandfather actually grew up to be a respectable law abiding citizen.
I know my brain is extremely broken, but I was SO relieved when Sonny Boy made it to his destination safely. Bonnie's joke about keeping him out of trouble just made my night.
Clyde Barrow was my fourth cousin. My great grandfather (Clyde baker) was his 1st cousin and best friend growing up and hid them out at their house in Nacogdoches Texas from time to time. When Bonnie & Clyde died, most of the members of both Bonnie and Clyde families were all sent to prison for hiding the famous outlaws including Bonnie's wheel chaired Grandmother. All except my grandfather. Our family still owns the land and has zero legal troubles.
My mother’s mother’s mother was such a dead-ringer for Bonnie that she was actually arrested and only released when Bonnie AND Clyde were spotted elsewhere. After that, until Bonnie was murdered (there was no reason to kill her), my great-grandmother stayed inside.
Legit, no joke, my grandmother had an aunt named Bonnie. And Bonnie was married to a guy named Clyde. It wasn't THE Bonnie and Clyde, but funny that they had the same names. It's like that meme of "if i had a nickel for every time this happened, I'd have 2 nickels, but it's weird it happed twice". Also funny enough, I got to meet aunt Bonnie before she passed. She was also extremely petite and mean as all hell.
In a similar story my grandpa and his sister were born in the 40s, and were called Barbara and Kenneth, or Barbie and Ken for short respectively. Barbie hadn’t come out yet.
David's scripts are a great advert for the book. Always very informative but never heavy or unweildy. Also very detailed and empathetic, yet funny and frivolous as well.
Seems like Clyde had some major PTSD, understandably. Every time he started shooting impulsively it looks like it was whenever he's about to be caught.
@@wingerdingNot when it’s about drinking moonshine. Clyde definitely had PTSD from his prison stint and had his head set to not spend another minute in jail, death be damned.
Woah, no movie has ever really done the reality of their story justice. Their story would be better told in a miniseries, one that didnt sugar coat the horror and brutality of them and their lives
Well aren't you feeling charitable today, I haven't even finished the 2 hours video on warographics and I am already being spoiled with a 3 hour one. Thank you to the whole team. You guys do fantastic work.
Trying to remove the bullet, regardless of sanitation, was the conventional medical wisdom of the time. Not so very long before, even Presidents Lincoln and Garfield were subjected to this treatment, which may well have accelerated their demises.
lincoln was dead regardless. bullet went in his left ear and was lodged behind the right eye. paralyzed instantly. died 9 hours after being shot. Garfield its almost certain would have survived had the doctors done nothing at all. bullets hit no vitals. died 80 days after being shot from sepsis. infections thought to be caused by unsanitized hands and tools used to dig around looking for the 2nd bullet.
@@mp40submachinegun81 That's also why the Union lost a ton of soldiers in hospitals. They used sponges to soak up blood, but all they did was wring them out without sterilizing them. Confederacy didn't have the sponges, just standard bandaging materials, but they'd sterilize them in boiling water between patients a lot of the time.
@@goatsandroses4258 Would that it was, but there was an awful lot of lead around in daily life at the time for that. Even children's toys from the period have been found with lead paint on them. General anxiety about lead exposure is relatively recent.
Some years ago I owned a scooter, and while it was parked outside my apartment someone stole the licence plate... F'ing headache and pointless waste of money to get a new one registered. Like 2 years later I got letter from police that they'd by accident found the licence plate while searching a local drug seller's garage/storage. So if you've ever wondered why anyone would bother - apparently druggies rip off anything even vaguely valuable to trade for drugs.
You understand the point in stealing it isn't for vanity but the fact you need a plate on a scooter so you use a stolen plate on a stolen scooter if you're trying to commit a good crime
"You're going to go to prison for a long-ass time..." I used to work for a printing company. Among our publications were several small town & regional weeklies & monthlies. Most had 50 or 100, or even 150 years ago, today in the [XYZ Press] sections, that often included what we'd call "The Police Beat" . Except for the death penalty, things were generally less harsh than they are now. Punishment was mostly less severe, & fewer things were illegal.
We used to keep a board of the weeks best names at a job I had. Best one ever? “May I speak to Mr Boff?” “One moment, Biff will be right with you.” Yes. His name was Biff Boff.
I worked somewhere that kept a database of customers. Occasionally the customer would forget their membership card and we could look them up to print out a new one. One of the funniest names I ever came across was “Dick Gozinya”
*Herbert* Hoover, US President, 1929-1933 *J. Edgar* Hoover, FBI Director, 1935-1972 I know Simon doesn’t care, but I feel the need to supply this information.
Stephanie Harlow’s 7-part miniseries is, hands down, the BEST series EVER on Bonnie & Clyde, though I’ll give this one a reasonably close second. This video is amusing, but Stephanie’s is deeply informative and humanizing.
I was thinking about Stephanie’s series while watching this. I enjoyed this Cas Crim episode, but Steph’s is amazing. I have watched it a few times through. Love it.
Truly a wild story. I appreciate these older historical episodes the most because I learn so much from them. And with how absolutely remarkable this story is, in so many places- all the crazy injuries that people managed to survive back then, for instance- I'm honestly flabbergasted that Hollywood hasn't done an accurate portrayal of them. I don't think they'd have to embellish very much of anything when it's such an intense story already. Thanks
Fun fact I got to go to the original church club in an actual church, won’t forget the sound of the stained glass vibrating to the beat of the music on the inside. Friends had a wedding reception in the crypt. Those were the days!
Simon's naivete of Depression era Americana makes me chuckle. Also antibiotics were not available to the public until 1945... too little too late The reverse into parking spots made me think. I worked in a prison for years (Accounting... not so dangerous) but I Always sit facing the door. When we go out to dinner I cannot enjoy the meal if my back is facing the door and will switch places if at all possible
I'm surprised by how much I learnt about Bonnie and Clyde in this episode. Now I'd like to see an episode about John Dillinger. That would be brilliant, please
I, as an American, am in giggles at Simon’s British tangents, while sitting in his posh Prague basement. Reading a script from a guy in the UK. Moments I absolutely love YT. Thanks for the education I did not know.
The Colt Monitor was an improved version of the BAR light machine. The Barrow gang was also known to modify their BARs by shorting the barrels and stocks in order to make them easier to use and conceal. Just some additional unnecessary information.
My little Ohio town has an old corner store that used to be a bank and it has a PLAQUE boasting about being robbed by John Dillinger. An actual historical plaque bragging about being victims of a crime.
Was literally watching a documentary about John Dillinger yesterday thinking it's amazing Simon's never done a Casual Criminalist on it. And suddenly a 3 hour Bonnie and Clyde Casual Criminalist pops up.
Pretty Boy Floyd would be an interesting one, especially because his death as part of the Kansas City Massacre is still officially unsolved. Also as a side note, I once accidentally trained my cat to answer to Floyd because I always call him "Pretty Boy." For like two months after I watched a documentary on Pretty Boy Floyd, the cat would perk up whenever he heard someone say the name Floyd. His actual name is Polish and sounds nothing like that lol
I love these in-depth long specials. Both about historical people and common place tech that's been around for large parts of history like the one you did on firearms on your other channel.
I, too am guilty of romanticizing Bonnie and Clyde, I live an hour away from where they were gunned down in Louisiana. They still have Bonnie & Clyde trade days every year here
This was a great script David. I watched it yesterday on Spotify. I thought I knew a good amount of their history but my lord you put so much detail into it.
I'm from Texas. We don't all have big hats. LOL Bonnie and Clyde were heroes to many people because they were robbing banks and many people considered banks and bankers to be crooked, evil people. My grandfather used to work at a service station in Franklin, TX and he once saw them when they stopped for gas. Another old dude I knew was a cousin to one of them (them being Bonnie and Clyde). He told me a story of how they hid out at his family's house (I believe around Hemphill, TX) when he was a kid. He said they hid in the attic and when the local police showed up looking for them they couldn't find them. They couldn't even find their car because they had hidden their car in one of those gigantic hay bails. Great video! I've thoroughly enjoyed it as well as making fun of our Texas stereotypes. LOL
My husband is a master of rooster catching. As soon as that mean little bastard comes running at him and jumps to spur him my husband snatches one or both legs mid jump and flips him upside down. They give up pretty quick after that. He usually only has to catch him to clip wings or take off the spurs or deal with the hens but the rooster still hasn't learned to keep his distance.
In Germany, you do not get extra time for breaking out of prison, but you do get theft of your uniform charges slapped on. Essentially, it is "the natural human condition to yearn to be free." Which I think is much more fair. You add 10 years when you forget that prisoners are human beings, like punishing an animal for doing something that is hard wired into them. But we also have slavery in our prisons, so, you know. Probably should fix that part first.
I’ve heard Germans brag about this before….like it’s altruistic or something. Just ignore the people they endanger and the cost and possibility of death while finding them. I guess when you live in a homogenous country that small the risks are diminished
@@debbylou5729 do you... think they don't hunt down escaped prisoners? Like "oh, made it out without committing another crime, so all of the other jail time is erased. Free to go, it's only fair..."? Or do you think every prison should just be Gitmo?
@@debbylou5729 it doesn’t mean that they leave the back doors of prisons open . They don’t send every kid caught with a bit of weed to prison with gang members hence lower prison population, secure and well resourced prisons .gun control is taken seriously so even if they escape they can’t buy guns on every corner . Police actually do policing instead of choking unarmed people of colour .most importantly Germany is actually in the sane world and not batcrap insane usa .
I loved that Simon was all about Clyde and his bad driving and ending every journey with a crash and at the end when he gets fatally shot what’s the next thing Clyde does? Drives towards a ditch.
FYI - They were killed in 1934 and most of the cars Clyde wrecked were 32/33 V8s equipped with 550-17 bias ply tires. In modern terms they would be 140/105R17s. That's a very small contact patch not meant for the speeds and maneuvers a man fleeing for his life would push them. Even economy cars have tires at least 50% wider and shorter sidewalls so they don't tuck under in tight turns.
And your point? Are you imagining that the available tires had a wide range of tires? No one at that time had worked out a way to make tires wider and cotton was used with a cross ply of nylon
@debbylou5729 Simon kept mentioning how bad a driver Clyde was. Most of his accidents were due to the tires. He was going as fast as possible on essentially space-saver spares. That's going to increase the likelihood of a crash. I've autocrossed and own a tree farm. Tires can make the difference between whether you win or lose or get stuck or not just as much, if not more, than driver skill or RWD vs 4X4.
Yeah Bonnie and Clyde are romanticized (or more accurately fetishized) to an insane degree mostly due to female criminals being very sexualized already and criminal couples being incredibly rare. On another note BARs (the guns) were first heavily regulated in the early 1930s (and all-out banned in 1986), they were very uncommon before the regulations were passed due to expense and the army ordering basically all of the ones produced. But a thing being illegal never stopped criminals before, they're even drinking in the open during prohibition.
Doesn't matter how regulated something is if it's stolen. In this case much like most crimes involving firearms the BARs were stolen. Sure you already know this, just wanted to annotate that under your comment.
national firearms act was passed 1 month+3days after bonnie and clyde were killed. also should note they werent all out baned in 1986. only new civillian sale and manufacture was banned. you can still go buy and use a pre 1986 machine gun of basically any type in the US. important distinction because im a dual canada-us citizen, have a couple firearms in canada that have actually been all out banned. illegal to do anything more than take them out of the safe.
@@mp40submachinegun81 you can still buy a pre-86 MG IF: you're able to get a federal license, live in a state that hasn't completely banned them, have a security clearance, have never done anything worse than get a parking ticket, never touched weed, buy a tax stamp for it in advance, and again depending on the state are white and/or make 6 figures (there was a civil rights case recently that found California and New York along with 4 other states were denying firearms permits of any kind to poor and/or not-white people).
@@steel8231 only businesses need a federal license. you dont need a security clearence. only requirements are to pay the tax stamp, have no criminal record, be a US citizen 21 or older, and not live in 1 of the 13 states that banned machine guns independently. you cant touch weed if you own any gun in the US. its illegal full stop. even in states that weed is legal. theres usually a question about it on background check forms. the federal controlled substances act makes it illegal for anyone who uses any federally illegal drug to posess a firearm. its a federal felony, regardless of state law. ive had to worry about that before being half canadian. weed is federally legal in canada, as common as alcohol.
2:55 - Mid roll ads 5:05 - Back to the video 13:55 - Chapter 1 - Meet bonnie parker 24:00 - Book plug 25:15 - Chapter 2 - Meet clyde barrow 44:40 - Chapter 3 - Prison as an aphrodisiac 56:15 - Chapter 4 - The mutilation of the soul 1:01:50 - Chapter 5 - Never piss off a crowd of texans 1:12:35 - Chapter 6 - Rivers of whiskey & a hail of bullets 1:23:25 - Chapter 7 - Good help is hard to find 1:36:10 - Chapter 8 - Punctuations of pure havoc 1:47:45 - Chapter 9 - The barrow gang in light & shade 2:00:05 - Chapter 10 - Crimes always pays...in gold or lead 2:15:35 - Chapter 11 - The bright lights of eastham prison farm 2:22:20 - Chapter 12 - The return of the wild west 2:30:00 - Chapter 13 - No honour among thieves 2:39:15 - Chapter 14 - Tell them i don't smoke cigars 2:49:10 - Chapter 15 - The end of the line 2:56:15 - Chapter 16 - 16s seconds in bienville 3:05:45 - Chapter 17 - Arcadian hyenas 3:09:35 - Dismembered appendices
About the bullet thing... I was shot with a bullet that hit a bone and broke into several small fragments. After surgery, the doctor said they couldn't get all of it cleaned out, but that it wouldn't be a problem. He said there might be enough to set off a metal detector. That was over 30 years ago and I've never had any trouble with it.
The 1967 'Bonnie & Clyde" movie left out a few minor details. Like Bonnie getting her leg almost burned off by battery acid. They would have made a pretty good movie into a classic. P.S. it was the fictional characters "Thelma & Louise" who drove their car off a cliff. You're welcome.
Arent Natasha and Boris from Rocky & Bullwinkle (the bad guys on the show) supposed to be Bonnie & Clyde? (Just written as Russian bc of the times the show originally aired in)
Machine guns weren't regulated at all until a month after Bonnie and Clyde stopped needing them, and even then it was just a $200 tax (which was the retail price of a Thompson, so it doubled the cost of a really nice gun). Still is just the $200 tax to own one, but since registration of new ones was closed in 1984, now the bar to owning one is supply and demand -- the cheapest go for upwards of $10k these days.
My dad has a Thompson. That thing is heavy as hell when it isn’t loaded. A full drum of ammo would make that thing weigh quite a bit. Loaded with standard magazine that thing weighs about 14 pounds which is a lot less than with a drum full of ammo. She must have been strong for her little frame to be able to hold that thing up ajd fire with any kind of control. I think it also uses a .45 round which is pretty big.
Thanks Dr. David Baker, Simon and team! I saw this pop up a few days ago but held off watching as i knew i was taking a multi hour road trip and would need the stimulation to stay alert. It didn't disappoint! I knew that they were terrible people (like Jesse James) who'd been romanticized by media and grew up near/visited some of the places mentioned but never got the full story. Great job, kept me from falling asleep at the wheel.
Yayyy.... I live for these longer episodes! Made my day so much better. Loved it.... Classic story, but still totally hooked me in until the end. Thanks!!!
I swear this is the first time I've heard Bonnie and Clyde's full story. I never really watched anything about them before. Great work Simon and David.
Besides quick exits, backing in is much safer for you and people around you than backing out. I don't always take my own advice, but when possible I'll back in or pull through to the next spot. When backing in, you have time to survey the area before you start backing, and you have a greater forward view pulling forward out. Parking nose in, you have a more dangerous back out even with a backup camera because there are a *lot* more blind spots in the back of a car than in the front.
'Special Escape Investigator' sounds suspiciously like a euphemism for 'bounty hunter' I didn't realise _Bonnie_ wrote the infamous poem about them, or that there was more to it than 'one day they'll go down together, and they'll bury them side by side. To some it means grief, to the law it's relief, but it's death to Bonnie and Clyde' I wonder how accurate the musical version is (I don't know much about it, because I haven't listened to it beyond a couple of friends of mine doing This World Will Remember Us (which is around when she sneaks him a gun in prison) for a show, but it's Jeremy Jordan so I probably should)
Just rewatched the ambush scene from The Highwaymen. They really did get that scene quite wrong. Not to mention the sad piano music after their deaths to make it seem super tragic and sad, as if we're supposed to feel bad for them.
@@carston101 I really think that none of the filmmakers that have taken on this story have wanted to show how the ambush really went down because it was a gaffe: Hamer wanted to give them a chance to surrender but Prentiss Oakley got nervous and fired before anyone said anything, and that shot killed Clyde instantly, which caused his sock foot to slip off the clutch, which caused the car to start rolling forward, which in turn caused the posse to open up after two or three seconds because they thought Clyde was getting away again. None of them had any idea that Clyde was already dead. I find the real event incredibly dramatic and intense, much more so than any of the film depictions. I think that bottom line they just didn't want to show that they weren't given a chance to give up, even though they did intend to do so.
Physical ID pretty much didnt exist a century ago. Clyde had a criminal record. However he could have just changed nis name to John Smith and that would be the end of it. Like you said, he wanted to live fast
The image of gangsters as folk heroes is no different from working-class folks defending billionaires. There's no rationality to it, but people think that if they express admiration, they'll get to be part of the gang... or, in the case of the billionaires, somehow get a piece of the ill-gotten gains (because nobody becomes a billionaire ethically). Edit after finishing the video: This was very well researched; thank you, David. I would also love to see Hollywood or Netflix do this story right.
People might have already posted this, but I worked mods for a very long time and we went to day time clubs. Thanks for this. My dad was fascinated by these guys and now I can’t get enough to honor him I guess.
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Holy shit 3 hour pod
3 hours?!
DO NOT CALL YOUR KID ARTIE! HE WILL END UP BEING CALLED FARTIE WHISTLER AT SCHOOL!!!
If only they made my shoe size
Vessi good. I love mine.
I had a lot of fun working on this one.
I see 3 hours 20 minutes, I think to myself “this is a David episode” 😂😂
My favourite writer on the channel mate 👍
me too
Love that title. Just like my wife and I. Well 2 out of 3 anyway.
@@GIBBO4182I keep rewatching the extra long episodes over and over again too. 😂
I'm sure you did, It's Bonnie and Clyde.😂
"Future president, J. Edgar Hoover"
You know something the rest of us don't, Simon? lol
He might as well have been President. He had every president that he “served under” terrified of him and what evidence he had on their criminal and/or immoral activities. If you’ve never read Curt Gentry’s biography of J. Edgar Hoover I highly, highly recommend it as it is a fun and absolutely *fascinating* read.
Herbert 💯🤣🤣🤣🤣
Simon, J. Edger Hoover was the founder and head of the FBI until his death in the 1970's. Herbert Hoover was the President at the start of the Great Depression (until FDR got elected in '32).
Also, Bonnie & Clyde predate FDIC insurance, so the money stolen in a bank robber was not backed by the federal government so the lost was taken by depositors. That's why towns people were so keen to fight back.
I would love to see edits like: Simon says “Like future president J Edgar Hoover??” A screen flashes up that says “No, you’re thinking of Herbert Hoover.”
@@sabrinaschell4938 That shows up more when Jen edits the video.
J. Edgar Hoover was a real piece of work in his day; iirc he had MLK on the FBI's watchlist for 'communist ideology'. And Herbert Hoover is now frequently considered by historians & polled as one of the worst US presidents. I can't fault Simon for mixing up two 20th century US Hoovers who were both reviled by many. Also I'm learning that I enjoy saying & typing the word 'Hoover' :)
I think that was an episode of Sliders
J. Edgar Hoover would never have taken a demotion to president.
Simon clearly has access to the darkest timeline, where J. Edger Hoover became president.
Thank God that never happened. Bad enough that he had blackmail files on every president he served under. I use the word “serve” advisedly. He had a gambling addiction so became friendly with mafia guys while he swore there was no such thing. A “longtime confirmed bachelor” running for office would have been a bad idea.
Do you think he meant, Herbert Hoover?"
He’d blow a gasket if you confused Jack Churchill with Winston Churchill, but fact-boy can confuse the two Hoovers.
What a world that had been. A Orwellian world were big brother is watching 24/7
@@TheWanderer691 More than likely, considering the surnames.
PSA; DO NOT MESS WITH FARM ROOSTERS!! There is such a thing as a GUARD rooster! They are vicious and fear NOTHING
My sister has hens, and back when she was with her now ex-husband they'd accidentally gotten a rooster along with the hens. He was so aggressive. My sister could hardly tend to the chickens and while she was okay with him trying to attack her, he started going after their kids. The now ex-husband took care of that in a hurry. I've known some sweet roosters, but most have definitely been protective if not outright aggressive.
I remember as a kid we had one boy he was MEAN. I was maybe 5 or 6 before my dad finally whacked him 😅. Had some 'guard' turkeys too. Pair of toms always on their own would take any chance they had to flop you.
Literally vicious dinosaurs
Oh, they fear something, alright. Found out that beating a metal trash can lid with a stick scares the 💩 outta 'em.😂 It also works well as a shield when you gotta go into the turkey pen.
FACTS
Simon: Wow, they’re just drinking and driving all over!
Simon an hour later: Why is Clyde crashing so many cars???
“WHY IS CLYDE DRIVING??”
Control issues, if I remember correctly. Being the passenger made him incredibly anxious. Which I’m going to assume would be bad for everyone’s health.
I'm distantly related amd I have the same control issues in vehicles. Some of the details of Clyde are actually incredibly similar to my life and is crazy
i found this quote, quite fitting for the pair: “In a country that doesn't discriminate between fame and infamy, the latter presents itself as plainly more achievable.”
― Lionel Shriver, We Need to Talk About Kevin
I'm proud team Bonnie& Clyde
2:08:09 "Wait, or did they drove a car off a cliff?" Simon mixing up Bonnie and Clyde with Thelma and Louise 😂
Lmaoooo
I love how in Simon's fan fic Brad Pitt just randomly turns up halfway through.
YASSSS I was listening to this, not watching it, and when he got to this part I told myself I had to go back and see if they showed a clip of the end of Thelma and Louise at this part.
They didnt, but my god I was shouting THELMA AND LOUISE when I heard this 🤣🤣🤣
Now I want the writers to screw with him by submitting a synopsis of Thelma and Louise for an episode
@@mildredflemyng-middleton4795 that would be a pretty good April Fool's video
Chemistry and first aid PSA: If you suffer a chemical burn, don't try to neutralize it with the other side of the ph scale. Just use water to wash the acid (or base). The heat of the reaction can further burn you and make the injury worse.
Good to know
2:07 In 1934 in rural America, a rabbit as a gift was not a big obligation for the gift-ee. Whenever they ceased to want it as a free new pet, it would become a free new lunch. The past.
I grew up eating fried rabbit with rice and gravy. Still a favorite.
@@allenbedingfield2888I grew up eating rabbit too, all while having my own pet rabbits. They’re cute little fuckers but my god do they taste good fried next to some potatoes. 😁
I grew up on a dirt poor farm in very rural North Dakota back in the 1950's. A rabbit was. a wonderful addition to our table, it was meat after all and when mom prepared it like she did chicken it was very tasty as well. Just lost mom on New Years Day I shall miss her greatly, she was one month shy of her 98th Birthday.
@@JerryEricssonI’m sorry for your loss Jerry
This is one of the reasons full auto is illegal here in the states. It’s a famous case we all hear of one way or another.
In relation to the name Art, I heard a joke literally yesterday about that.
What do you call a man with no arms and no legs stuck to a wall - Art
What do you call 2 arms and 2 legs stuck to a wall - pieces of Art
1. Three hours? God damn.
2. Bonnie saying she didn't want to kick her ex husband when he's down and Simon countering with well he seemed to like to kick you while he was up is straight savage. I laughed out loud at work for seemingly no reason cause people don't know I secretly listen to this while working. Now they probably think I'm higher then they already know I am.
I accidentally comment out loud occasionally when I'm listening while running errands and depending on the episode ....I can't even DESCRIBE the looks I've gotten 😅
I work as a recreation therapist for mentally disabled adults and we will often connect our phones to the speakers to play work out music during warm up’s. I turned off the “auto connect” associated with that speaker because I absolutely terrified someone’s going to accidentally connect the phone to the speaker since my office is just on the other side of the wall. I do not need my coworkers or my students to suddenly have Simon talking to them about death, murder, and other violent crimes on full blast and I don’t know because i can’t hear the audio playing in the next room. I just started using my iPad for the music but I am still paranoid my boss is going to start thinking I’m plotting a murder or something. With the amount of true crime and legal commentary I watch on the daily I give it a 50/50 chance I am on a watch list of some sort at this point. If anyone I know dies under sus circumstances I am completely screwed lol.
I laughed so many times I had to pause and check how many times I hit the penjamin 😅
Same here. 😂😂😂
“America’s weird it’s the richest country in the world but has so many poor people” gotta love fact boy
Disparity is fun
My father (born 1920) grew up in West Dallas on the right side of the tracks. As a teenager, my uncle went to Bonnie's funeral and the big event was a small plane flying over and dropping a wreath in front of the funeral home. Much later, my father was an official at the church which owned the graveyard where Clyde and Buck Barrow are buried. People kept stealing their headstone, so one of the church men attached it to a massive slab of concrete and it has not been stolen again. I still have the key to the graveyard that my father left me.
"You could just own a machine gun back in the day?"
Mr. Whistler, you could buy a fully automatic Thompson submachine gun from a Sears and Robuck magazine, and have it delivered via the U.S. Postal Service at this time.
Automatic firearms were illegal after 1929, if I recall correctly.
Very good point. After a quick gander, it looks like the National Firearms Act (NFA) was enacted in June of 1934, the same year, but months after these two loves birds died.
@@jnothanks My great-grandfather and my grandfather had matching JC Higgins model 29 & 30 that were both fully automatic .22 long rifles. The only difference between the two is which side the spent casings ejected. They were the right and left-handed models. I went through a nightmare getting the license to inherit them.
@@almitrahopkins1873.No it was 't it,s still legal you just have get permit which cost bit much to get the permit to own one.
@@Markbeb3 Yes, I know. I have one. Both rifles are hanging on my wall, more as decoration than anything else.
My great grandfather was a moonshiner (in Texas) and preferred Ford V-8s. He was pretty sure it was the fastest thing around, but rumor was that a Sheriff a few counties over had a Cadillac that was faster. Great grandpa was pretty sure, but he'd decided he should have back up. So as he and his brother took off for the drive they put my 8 year old grandfather in the trunk. With a few bags full large rocks.
So off they go. Once my great grandfather spotted the Sheriff in question he floored the Ford. It started off reasonably well, but it wasn't long before the Sheriff in his Cadillac was catching up. As the Sheriff got closer and closer my great grandfather reached back rapped on the trunk. My 8 year old grandfather popped up and dumped the bags of rocks. As the pelted the Sheriff's car it destroyed his radiator, stopping his pursuit. At least that's the family legend. My grandfather actually grew up to be a respectable law abiding citizen.
Being Stuck in a trunk with rocks, I'd be scared straight, too 😂
I don't think that happened...
Family legend. I assume it's possible. Likely? That I don't know. I've been told some interesting dirt on Dad's family.
Nice legend. Don't be upset when people call bull on it.
in my head, while reading that, all I could hear was '🎶jus' the good ol' boys...' what a tale to tell 🤠
I know my brain is extremely broken, but I was SO relieved when Sonny Boy made it to his destination safely. Bonnie's joke about keeping him out of trouble just made my night.
😂 mistaking the end of Thelma & Louise for Bonnie & Clyde's death cracked me up
A criminal pulls out a machine gun, and Simon asks if that's legal? I don't think criminals are concerned about the legality of their machine gun...
Hence the reason gun control will never work
Hence the reason gun control will never work
It was legal at the time, just expensive. You can double check this, but a Thompson cost almost as much as a new car at the time.
@@iivin4233 Back then, it wasn't legal to have a machine gun that you stole from a National Guard armory. Lol
@@LtColShingSides As far as we know. Kidding.
3 hour movie- "heeeeeeeell no"
3 hour cascrim - 😍😍😍😍🥴🥴🥴
Well, most three hour movies are pretentious, padded or both.
At least CasCrim has plot all the way through!
@@likebot. it's a true crime story 😅 of course it's gonna have a solid plot
It's crazy that this feels like one of the less horrific Casual Criminalists.
And yet the amount of injuries is insane.
Because people have killed as many as these two injured. This isn't that horrific, you just don't value human life
You must be one of those Zoomers that screeches about your life being in danger from a frog on the road
@@topogigio7031what!!
It's because it's Cops and Robbers, and not the personalised violence that CasCrim has previously presented, eg the Family Annihilators.
@@topogigio7031 don't lash out on the unknown person.
They're not just pixels on your screen.
Clyde Barrow was my fourth cousin. My great grandfather (Clyde baker) was his 1st cousin and best friend growing up and hid them out at their house in Nacogdoches Texas from time to time. When Bonnie & Clyde died, most of the members of both Bonnie and Clyde families were all sent to prison for hiding the famous outlaws including Bonnie's wheel chaired Grandmother. All except my grandfather. Our family still owns the land and has zero legal troubles.
If your great grandfather was his first cousin, he wasn't your fourth cousin, he was your first cousin 3 times removed.
I literally just drove past the (now broken) Bonnie and Clyde bridge on FM 2854
Cool, cool. Do you guys do anything with it like a historical tour thing or is it just regular houses or something now?
Why was your grandfather spared? o_O
My mother’s mother’s mother was such a dead-ringer for Bonnie that she was actually arrested and only released when Bonnie AND Clyde were spotted elsewhere. After that, until Bonnie was murdered (there was no reason to kill her), my great-grandmother stayed inside.
My grandmother had her hair cut by Bonnie Parker in Seminole, OK, 1930-ish. She loved to tell that story! ✌🏼
Legit, no joke, my grandmother had an aunt named Bonnie. And Bonnie was married to a guy named Clyde. It wasn't THE Bonnie and Clyde, but funny that they had the same names. It's like that meme of "if i had a nickel for every time this happened, I'd have 2 nickels, but it's weird it happed twice".
Also funny enough, I got to meet aunt Bonnie before she passed. She was also extremely petite and mean as all hell.
Waiting for the "Bonnie and Clyde faked their deaths and became your grandmother's aunt and uncle" conspiracy theory lol
My dad's dad (my grandpa) had the unfortunate situation of being named Jim Jones 😬
In a similar story my grandpa and his sister were born in the 40s, and were called Barbara and Kenneth, or Barbie and Ken for short respectively. Barbie hadn’t come out yet.
Top notch Dr. Doofenschmirtz reference there. Just wanted to let you know someone noticed.
David's scripts are a great advert for the book. Always very informative but never heavy or unweildy.
Also very detailed and empathetic, yet funny and frivolous as well.
Seems like Clyde had some major PTSD, understandably. Every time he started shooting impulsively it looks like it was whenever he's about to be caught.
Isn't that just logical?
@@wingerdingNot when it’s about drinking moonshine. Clyde definitely had PTSD from his prison stint and had his head set to not spend another minute in jail, death be damned.
@@klemen680 he was literally facing execution the entire time...didn't have much to lose. Of course he answered with bullets.
😂
😂😂😂😂😅. DUH. You’d be closer to PTSD if he just started blasting bluebirds on a sunny day
Woah, no movie has ever really done the reality of their story justice. Their story would be better told in a miniseries, one that didnt sugar coat the horror and brutality of them and their lives
I think history channel did one back when they showed history that was decent
Well aren't you feeling charitable today, I haven't even finished the 2 hours video on warographics and I am already being spoiled with a 3 hour one. Thank you to the whole team. You guys do fantastic work.
I really appreciate these longer episodes. I like that they do a lot of work correcting the mainstream narrative with actual historical records.
This story is such a timeless classic it never seems to fade no matter how long passes
Trying to remove the bullet, regardless of sanitation, was the conventional medical wisdom of the time. Not so very long before, even Presidents Lincoln and Garfield were subjected to this treatment, which may well have accelerated their demises.
lincoln was dead regardless. bullet went in his left ear and was lodged behind the right eye. paralyzed instantly. died 9 hours after being shot. Garfield its almost certain would have survived had the doctors done nothing at all. bullets hit no vitals. died 80 days after being shot from sepsis. infections thought to be caused by unsanitized hands and tools used to dig around looking for the 2nd bullet.
@@mp40submachinegun81 That's also why the Union lost a ton of soldiers in hospitals. They used sponges to soak up blood, but all they did was wring them out without sterilizing them. Confederacy didn't have the sponges, just standard bandaging materials, but they'd sterilize them in boiling water between patients a lot of the time.
Had nothing to do with their deaths. It didn’t matter
Maybe it had to do with fear of lead poisoning, which could have been a very real thing.
@@goatsandroses4258 Would that it was, but there was an awful lot of lead around in daily life at the time for that. Even children's toys from the period have been found with lead paint on them. General anxiety about lead exposure is relatively recent.
"Drunk as a Hobo's Fart" 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes,i liked that one 😮🤔🙃
"there's all SORTS of important stuff in there! like.....your SPLEEEN....and ......some other stuff...."
Some years ago I owned a scooter, and while it was parked outside my apartment someone stole the licence plate... F'ing headache and pointless waste of money to get a new one registered. Like 2 years later I got letter from police that they'd by accident found the licence plate while searching a local drug seller's garage/storage.
So if you've ever wondered why anyone would bother - apparently druggies rip off anything even vaguely valuable to trade for drugs.
You understand the point in stealing it isn't for vanity but the fact you need a plate on a scooter so you use a stolen plate on a stolen scooter if you're trying to commit a good crime
I don't think it was stolen to be exchanged for drugs, rather it was stolen to be used on drug runs to avoid detection.
I'm choosing to believe that Snowball the dog found a good home and lived a long happy life.
I knew this was a David script as soon as I saw the run time 😂
"You're going to go to prison for a long-ass time..."
I used to work for a printing company. Among our publications were several small town & regional weeklies & monthlies. Most had 50 or 100, or even 150 years ago, today in the [XYZ Press] sections, that often included what we'd call "The Police Beat" . Except for the death penalty, things were generally less harsh than they are now. Punishment was mostly less severe, & fewer things were illegal.
We used to keep a board of the weeks best names at a job I had. Best one ever?
“May I speak to Mr Boff?”
“One moment, Biff will be right with you.”
Yes. His name was Biff Boff.
I worked somewhere that kept a database of customers. Occasionally the customer would forget their membership card and we could look them up to print out a new one. One of the funniest names I ever came across was “Dick Gozinya”
My absolute favorite was getting yelled at for mispronouncing a realtor's name "Sh'Tonya" because I DIDN'T say it 💩-on-ya!
My mom worked with a lady named Phuk Ngo
A 3 hour special on Bonnie & Clyde? I didn't know today was Christmas!
*Herbert* Hoover, US President, 1929-1933
*J. Edgar* Hoover, FBI Director, 1935-1972
I know Simon doesn’t care, but I feel the need to supply this information.
Easy mix up
Thanks for that because I thought I missed a day in school when he said that 💀💀
Stephanie Harlow’s 7-part miniseries is, hands down, the BEST series EVER on Bonnie & Clyde, though I’ll give this one a reasonably close second. This video is amusing, but Stephanie’s is deeply informative and humanizing.
My absolute FAVORITE episode (all of them) of hers!!! I still watch it every now and then!!!
But this one is definitely a close 2nd ❤
I was thinking about Stephanie’s series while watching this. I enjoyed this Cas Crim episode, but Steph’s is amazing. I have watched it a few times through. Love it.
Truly a wild story. I appreciate these older historical episodes the most because I learn so much from them. And with how absolutely remarkable this story is, in so many places- all the crazy injuries that people managed to survive back then, for instance- I'm honestly flabbergasted that Hollywood hasn't done an accurate portrayal of them. I don't think they'd have to embellish very much of anything when it's such an intense story already. Thanks
Fun fact I got to go to the original church club in an actual church, won’t forget the sound of the stained glass vibrating to the beat of the music on the inside. Friends had a wedding reception in the crypt. Those were the days!
Simon's naivete of Depression era Americana makes me chuckle. Also antibiotics were not available to the public until 1945... too little too late The reverse into parking spots made me think. I worked in a prison for years (Accounting... not so dangerous) but I Always sit facing the door. When we go out to dinner I cannot enjoy the meal if my back is facing the door and will switch places if at all possible
Holy crap y'all! 3 hours and 20 minutes?!?
Thank you so much. I needed this. Got my snacks and my coffee and I'm ready!
Same. Waited til this morning, made a big breakfast and coffee. And now I’m listening while relaxing into today😁
The state guard’s ability to have their guns taken by wanted criminals is both impressive and horrifying in equal measure.
I'm surprised by how much I learnt about Bonnie and Clyde in this episode. Now I'd like to see an episode about John Dillinger. That would be brilliant, please
I, as an American, am in giggles at Simon’s British tangents, while sitting in his posh Prague basement. Reading a script from a guy in the UK. Moments I absolutely love YT. Thanks for the education I did not know.
"His names Smoot?" Lol, I dont know why that made me laugh so hard.
The Colt Monitor was an improved version of the BAR light machine. The Barrow gang was also known to modify their BARs by shorting the barrels and stocks in order to make them easier to use and conceal. Just some additional unnecessary information.
More Midwest gangs(John Dillinger, "baby face" Nelson, Ma barker, "pretty boy" Floyd).
My little Ohio town has an old corner store that used to be a bank and it has a PLAQUE boasting about being robbed by John Dillinger. An actual historical plaque bragging about being victims of a crime.
Was literally watching a documentary about John Dillinger yesterday thinking it's amazing Simon's never done a Casual Criminalist on it.
And suddenly a 3 hour Bonnie and Clyde Casual Criminalist pops up.
Pretty Boy Floyd would be an interesting one, especially because his death as part of the Kansas City Massacre is still officially unsolved.
Also as a side note, I once accidentally trained my cat to answer to Floyd because I always call him "Pretty Boy." For like two months after I watched a documentary on Pretty Boy Floyd, the cat would perk up whenever he heard someone say the name Floyd. His actual name is Polish and sounds nothing like that lol
Jesus saves but George T. Nelson withdrawals
Absolutely FANTASTIC script, David - brilliant narration too, Simon !
Great video, love the mix up with Thelma and Luise and J.Edgar Hover and Herbert Hover.....also "S" enjoyed wrapping on the National Guard Armory.
I love these in-depth long specials. Both about historical people and common place tech that's been around for large parts of history like the one you did on firearms on your other channel.
I, too am guilty of romanticizing Bonnie and Clyde, I live an hour away from where they were gunned down in Louisiana. They still have Bonnie & Clyde trade days every year here
Who wouldn't? It's two lovers vs. the world. It writes itself.
my wife and i rescued horses shortly after getting engaged. names are bonnie and clyde.
A 3 hour long Casual Criminalist on cleaning day?!?
What have I done to deserve such a gift?
This was a great script David. I watched it yesterday on Spotify. I thought I knew a good amount of their history but my lord you put so much detail into it.
I'm from Texas. We don't all have big hats. LOL Bonnie and Clyde were heroes to many people because they were robbing banks and many people considered banks and bankers to be crooked, evil people. My grandfather used to work at a service station in Franklin, TX and he once saw them when they stopped for gas. Another old dude I knew was a cousin to one of them (them being Bonnie and Clyde). He told me a story of how they hid out at his family's house (I believe around Hemphill, TX) when he was a kid. He said they hid in the attic and when the local police showed up looking for them they couldn't find them. They couldn't even find their car because they had hidden their car in one of those gigantic hay bails. Great video! I've thoroughly enjoyed it as well as making fun of our Texas stereotypes. LOL
My husband is a master of rooster catching. As soon as that mean little bastard comes running at him and jumps to spur him my husband snatches one or both legs mid jump and flips him upside down. They give up pretty quick after that. He usually only has to catch him to clip wings or take off the spurs or deal with the hens but the rooster still hasn't learned to keep his distance.
Gangster 😅
That’s pretty badass
1:49:07 brother is an ER doc, he’s confirmed that most of the time they leave bullets in people unless it’s causing some sort of internal problem.
This came out just in time for me to sit down and do a long homework session thank you Simon and David for all the hard work!
This was a perfect story to listen to while painting a room. Cheers Simon and team!!
In Germany, you do not get extra time for breaking out of prison, but you do get theft of your uniform charges slapped on. Essentially, it is "the natural human condition to yearn to be free." Which I think is much more fair. You add 10 years when you forget that prisoners are human beings, like punishing an animal for doing something that is hard wired into them. But we also have slavery in our prisons, so, you know. Probably should fix that part first.
In the US we have no right to freedom AND slavery.
Being born in another country is now illegal in Texas, and they will now indefinitely detain anyone without a current passport
I’ve heard Germans brag about this before….like it’s altruistic or something. Just ignore the people they endanger and the cost and possibility of death while finding them. I guess when you live in a homogenous country that small the risks are diminished
@@debbylou5729 do you... think they don't hunt down escaped prisoners? Like "oh, made it out without committing another crime, so all of the other jail time is erased. Free to go, it's only fair..."?
Or do you think every prison should just be Gitmo?
@@debbylou5729 it doesn’t mean that they leave the back doors of prisons open . They don’t send every kid caught with a bit of weed to prison with gang members hence lower prison population, secure and well resourced prisons .gun control is taken seriously so even if they escape they can’t buy guns on every corner . Police actually do policing instead of choking unarmed people of colour .most importantly Germany is actually in the sane world and not batcrap insane usa .
I loved that Simon was all about Clyde and his bad driving and ending every journey with a crash and at the end when he gets fatally shot what’s the next thing Clyde does? Drives towards a ditch.
On the honeymoon with a friend and tons of guns: clearly the guns were wedding presents and Jack was their servant hired to assist with the guns.
FYI - They were killed in 1934 and most of the cars Clyde wrecked were 32/33 V8s equipped with 550-17 bias ply tires. In modern terms they would be 140/105R17s. That's a very small contact patch not meant for the speeds and maneuvers a man fleeing for his life would push them. Even economy cars have tires at least 50% wider and shorter sidewalls so they don't tuck under in tight turns.
And your point? Are you imagining that the available tires had a wide range of tires? No one at that time had worked out a way to make tires wider and cotton was used with a cross ply of nylon
@debbylou5729 Simon kept mentioning how bad a driver Clyde was. Most of his accidents were due to the tires. He was going as fast as possible on essentially space-saver spares. That's going to increase the likelihood of a crash. I've autocrossed and own a tree farm. Tires can make the difference between whether you win or lose or get stuck or not just as much, if not more, than driver skill or RWD vs 4X4.
@@Noah_E yes, I know. I’m simply saying he didn’t have a choice
Yeah Bonnie and Clyde are romanticized (or more accurately fetishized) to an insane degree mostly due to female criminals being very sexualized already and criminal couples being incredibly rare.
On another note BARs (the guns) were first heavily regulated in the early 1930s (and all-out banned in 1986), they were very uncommon before the regulations were passed due to expense and the army ordering basically all of the ones produced. But a thing being illegal never stopped criminals before, they're even drinking in the open during prohibition.
Doesn't matter how regulated something is if it's stolen. In this case much like most crimes involving firearms the BARs were stolen.
Sure you already know this, just wanted to annotate that under your comment.
national firearms act was passed 1 month+3days after bonnie and clyde were killed. also should note they werent all out baned in 1986. only new civillian sale and manufacture was banned. you can still go buy and use a pre 1986 machine gun of basically any type in the US. important distinction because im a dual canada-us citizen, have a couple firearms in canada that have actually been all out banned. illegal to do anything more than take them out of the safe.
@@mp40submachinegun81 you can still buy a pre-86 MG IF: you're able to get a federal license, live in a state that hasn't completely banned them, have a security clearance, have never done anything worse than get a parking ticket, never touched weed, buy a tax stamp for it in advance, and again depending on the state are white and/or make 6 figures (there was a civil rights case recently that found California and New York along with 4 other states were denying firearms permits of any kind to poor and/or not-white people).
@@steel8231 only businesses need a federal license. you dont need a security clearence. only requirements are to pay the tax stamp, have no criminal record, be a US citizen 21 or older, and not live in 1 of the 13 states that banned machine guns independently.
you cant touch weed if you own any gun in the US. its illegal full stop. even in states that weed is legal. theres usually a question about it on background check forms. the federal controlled substances act makes it illegal for anyone who uses any federally illegal drug to posess a firearm. its a federal felony, regardless of state law.
ive had to worry about that before being half canadian. weed is federally legal in canada, as common as alcohol.
The amount of detail astonishes me! David must have had to go through so many sources to piece together the whole, real story!
2:55 - Mid roll ads
5:05 - Back to the video
13:55 - Chapter 1 - Meet bonnie parker
24:00 - Book plug
25:15 - Chapter 2 - Meet clyde barrow
44:40 - Chapter 3 - Prison as an aphrodisiac
56:15 - Chapter 4 - The mutilation of the soul
1:01:50 - Chapter 5 - Never piss off a crowd of texans
1:12:35 - Chapter 6 - Rivers of whiskey & a hail of bullets
1:23:25 - Chapter 7 - Good help is hard to find
1:36:10 - Chapter 8 - Punctuations of pure havoc
1:47:45 - Chapter 9 - The barrow gang in light & shade
2:00:05 - Chapter 10 - Crimes always pays...in gold or lead
2:15:35 - Chapter 11 - The bright lights of eastham prison farm
2:22:20 - Chapter 12 - The return of the wild west
2:30:00 - Chapter 13 - No honour among thieves
2:39:15 - Chapter 14 - Tell them i don't smoke cigars
2:49:10 - Chapter 15 - The end of the line
2:56:15 - Chapter 16 - 16s seconds in bienville
3:05:45 - Chapter 17 - Arcadian hyenas
3:09:35 - Dismembered appendices
About the bullet thing...
I was shot with a bullet that hit a bone and broke into several small fragments. After surgery, the doctor said they couldn't get all of it cleaned out, but that it wouldn't be a problem. He said there might be enough to set off a metal detector. That was over 30 years ago and I've never had any trouble with it.
The 1967 'Bonnie & Clyde" movie left out a few minor details. Like Bonnie getting her leg almost burned off by battery acid. They would have made a pretty good movie into a classic.
P.S. it was the fictional characters "Thelma & Louise" who drove their car off a cliff. You're welcome.
Arent Natasha and Boris from Rocky & Bullwinkle (the bad guys on the show) supposed to be Bonnie & Clyde? (Just written as Russian bc of the times the show originally aired in)
@@KylieCassidy08 no, more like Maxwell Smart and Agent 99. A couple of loyal Bolsheviks, not ruthless bandits.
Thanks!
Machine guns weren't regulated at all until a month after Bonnie and Clyde stopped needing them, and even then it was just a $200 tax (which was the retail price of a Thompson, so it doubled the cost of a really nice gun). Still is just the $200 tax to own one, but since registration of new ones was closed in 1984, now the bar to owning one is supply and demand -- the cheapest go for upwards of $10k these days.
My dad has a Thompson. That thing is heavy as hell when it isn’t loaded. A full drum of ammo would make that thing weigh quite a bit. Loaded with standard magazine that thing weighs about 14 pounds which is a lot less than with a drum full of ammo. She must have been strong for her little frame to be able to hold that thing up ajd fire with any kind of control. I think it also uses a .45 round which is pretty big.
Dog she used a browning auto, that thing is like 35 pounds. And the recoil is no joke, that tommy gun is a toy relative to it@@cotati76
"Just a $200 tax" on something that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED in the 1940s, which is roughly $3,500 today. "Only" $200, what an idiot.
Thanks Dr. David Baker, Simon and team! I saw this pop up a few days ago but held off watching as i knew i was taking a multi hour road trip and would need the stimulation to stay alert. It didn't disappoint! I knew that they were terrible people (like Jesse James) who'd been romanticized by media and grew up near/visited some of the places mentioned but never got the full story. Great job, kept me from falling asleep at the wheel.
Thank you Simon, David, and Christopher as always for great videos - over 3 hours!!
This episode was absolutely phenomenal from start to finish. Well done to the writer, editor and host 👏
Thank you Simon and David y'all make my boring work so much better
I really like the long ones. They help pass the time while I'm doing my mundane job.
My great grandparents rented an over garage apartment to the couple when they hid out in Joplin MO
Yayyy.... I live for these longer episodes!
Made my day so much better.
Loved it.... Classic story, but still totally hooked me in until the end.
Thanks!!!
Thanks for this beast of a video simon and david! Specially love your scripts david
I swear this is the first time I've heard Bonnie and Clyde's full story. I never really watched anything about them before. Great work Simon and David.
My only other background that I’ve watched about Bonnie and Clyde is ERBs battle with Romeo and Juliet
Besides quick exits, backing in is much safer for you and people around you than backing out. I don't always take my own advice, but when possible I'll back in or pull through to the next spot. When backing in, you have time to survey the area before you start backing, and you have a greater forward view pulling forward out. Parking nose in, you have a more dangerous back out even with a backup camera because there are a *lot* more blind spots in the back of a car than in the front.
This is why you see government cars always backed in their lots. They don’t need another reason to be sued. 😂
'Special Escape Investigator' sounds suspiciously like a euphemism for 'bounty hunter'
I didn't realise _Bonnie_ wrote the infamous poem about them, or that there was more to it than 'one day they'll go down together, and they'll bury them side by side. To some it means grief, to the law it's relief, but it's death to Bonnie and Clyde'
I wonder how accurate the musical version is (I don't know much about it, because I haven't listened to it beyond a couple of friends of mine doing This World Will Remember Us (which is around when she sneaks him a gun in prison) for a show, but it's Jeremy Jordan so I probably should)
MORE THAN 3 HOURS?! THANKS 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Love these long ones. David's book is great. keep up the great work guys.
Oh goodie I get to listen to a story about my great great aunt Bonnie! (Or cousin I don't remember the lineage without it in front of me.)
Just rewatched the ambush scene from The Highwaymen. They really did get that scene quite wrong. Not to mention the sad piano music after their deaths to make it seem super tragic and sad, as if we're supposed to feel bad for them.
Absolutely. It wasn't historically accurate at all. In fact, none of the films about them have ever portrayed the ambush accurately.
@@carston101 I really think that none of the filmmakers that have taken on this story have wanted to show how the ambush really went down because it was a gaffe: Hamer wanted to give them a chance to surrender but Prentiss Oakley got nervous and fired before anyone said anything, and that shot killed Clyde instantly, which caused his sock foot to slip off the clutch, which caused the car to start rolling forward, which in turn caused the posse to open up after two or three seconds because they thought Clyde was getting away again. None of them had any idea that Clyde was already dead.
I find the real event incredibly dramatic and intense, much more so than any of the film depictions. I think that bottom line they just didn't want to show that they weren't given a chance to give up, even though they did intend to do so.
Good lord this is longer than any movie on the couple, damn! Great job as always
You say giving a rabbit as a obligation?I see it as easter dinner😂😂😂😂😂
I aspire to have a TH-camr call me a Lover, Outlaw, and Moron.
LOL.
Typical subhuman Zoomer
Millennials: 'I hope I can save the world before I die.'
Zoomers: 'I hope I can kill the world before I die.'
Boomers: 'I hope I die before the next WW'.
what weird reactions to what is clearly a joke. And I don't know what a Zoomer is but I'm definitely far too old to be called that.
@@MK-gv1wd Yeah, that first commenter has been making weird comments on here. Zoomer is what people call Gen Z.
Physical ID pretty much didnt exist a century ago.
Clyde had a criminal record. However he could have just changed nis name to John Smith and that would be the end of it.
Like you said, he wanted to live fast
Thank you David and Simon, you saved my day❤
Three days to finish this,but I love every minute! Can't wait to watch the next one. 👍
Simon this was the 20's and 30's depression era in the states. Very early no money, banks closed country was broke.
The image of gangsters as folk heroes is no different from working-class folks defending billionaires. There's no rationality to it, but people think that if they express admiration, they'll get to be part of the gang... or, in the case of the billionaires, somehow get a piece of the ill-gotten gains (because nobody becomes a billionaire ethically).
Edit after finishing the video: This was very well researched; thank you, David. I would also love to see Hollywood or Netflix do this story right.
Huge difference between the GOP shills worshipping Elon and farmers supporting distribution of wealth
You know, kind of how Robin Hood is considered a good dude compared to Rockefeller?
You Zoomers are so subhuman
People might have already posted this, but I worked mods for a very long time and we went to day time clubs.
Thanks for this. My dad was fascinated by these guys and now I can’t get enough to honor him I guess.
As long as he gave the turkey's back when he got caught, then they shouldn't have arrested him. I mean- no harm, no fowl.