DC plane crash: Was altitude of Black Hawk helicopter to blame for deadly collision?
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- As the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has officially collected black boxes from the crash site of the tragic mid-air collision between an American Airlines jet and a military Black Hawk helicopter, investigators are one step closer to determining how the tragedy took place just outside Washington, D.C. on Wednesday.
Global’s Miranda Anthistle speaks with former American Airlines pilot Richard Levy to get more information from the perspective of an aviation expert.
Levy says the Black Hawk helicopter should have been flying no higher than an altitude of 200ft, however, it may have surpassed 300ft.
He also speaks about the staffing situation at the Air Control Tower.
The plane, flying from Wichita, Kansas, was carrying 60 passengers and four crew members, while three soldiers were aboard the helicopter. No one survived.
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This guy did not dumb things down the way most "experts" on the news do. Good guest.
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I'd say the helicopter PILOT was to blame.
The air traffic controller started this accident sequence by mis-managing the traffic to runway 1. If the spacing was too tight, all he had to do was say Blue Streak 5342 go around, and the problem never would have happened.
I was Deliberately Executed!!
If the helicopter wasn’t there, this wouldn’t have happened as simple as that
@@jerrygrimstad1426 Yeah must have been that letter he got telling him to take a buyout or face being fired. It's TRUMP'S fault, all of it, period.😁
@@jerrygrimstad1426 Flight voice recording tells a different story so does this man , Chopper pilot lied to ATC tower said they had visual...... She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....
Aviation charts clearly show helicopter routes around DCA and their max height is 200 ft. This killer cobra was at 350+ at time of crash.
That is the question that needs to be answered: why was the copter flying above the 200' ceiling?
Gross negligence, Failure to advise Blackhawke
“Check your 10 o clock ” inbound flight!!! Not once did air traffic indicate the position of this incoming flight to the helicopter! Whether it be rain fog sun in your eyes or a clear sky it doesn’t matter. Air traffic control must indicate the position of the incoming flight to the chopper. As it got closer. The chopper clearly had a visual on the outbound flight not the inbound flight the controller was referring to but didn’t say either way!
@@annapurna-c3v Nonsense, ATC told helo to go behind plane that was going to land on runway 33. Piece of cake. Plane had to be on 11 o'çlock.
You do not understand how easy it is to see a plane land on runway 33 and then go on? It was 2000 feet away from runway. They did not have to check the whole space, they only had to check a small area just in front of them.
"The chopper clearly had a visual on the outbound flight" Not from runway 33, far away, why would ATC ever warn for that plane? That plane was miles away. Did helo crew not know at all what planes are doing?
Other people suggest they did see another incoming plane far away. But why wait for that plane? It was far away. Ohhh, they did not wait.
The only thing they had to do is to see a plane land on runway 33. Piece of cake.
The pilot flying from my understanding had a little less than 500 hours so what that tells me is she had trouble maintaining her altitude. It's nothing for a helicopter going 110 kts at that low altitude to balloon up 100 ft or so. When you have low hours it's hard to maintain a steady altitude especially in a helicopter with that much power
@ Why are those persons then trained in that area? Unbelievable.
While watching the video of the collision, it seems the helicopter pilots either displayed gross negligence or intentionally acted. The American Airlines plane was exceptionally bright, almost like a miniature star, and the helicopter's trajectory appeared to be on a direct course toward the aircraft.
I think it was deliberate, the plane just got in the way. Another target. Why was it flying so high?
Why would they “intentionally act”? For what reason ? What, to strike against a national ice skating group? The plumbers, maybe it was a attack on the plumbers union… that’s gotta be it … it was an international pedophile moving against the plumbers union … Trump was in the Whitehouse trying to steer the helicopter away with his mind but was distracted by a cheeseburger and the crash occurred … What has happened to rational thought?
she was flying at over 120 knots....
@markwilliamson2795 If you are flying into a landing approach for commercial airlines and air traffic controllers have told you that there is one nearby approaching for a landing and that you should fly behind it, wouldn't you slow down and prepare to fly around the commercial plane? If you look carefully at the video, you could see that the helicopter maintains its speed up to the point collision. The helicopter pilots were blind or they flew intentionally towards the commercial aircraft.
Why are the Military flying around a Civilian Airport? They should be grounded
Conspiracy theory obviously
Blackhawk fault
I think the vast majority think that, and what I find strange is to me it seemed intentional right to impact.
The helicopter went neither up nor down, and they could have had enough time unless someone was taking something or they intended to do it because no evasion was taken even slightly.
And I heard they had night vision goggles, which would have enabled them to see the plane, and yes, it's like a big black hole up there, but the closer to earth, the more you can see.
@@carolyndymond4065yet you have no clue. None whatsoever but don’t let that stop you.
@ImYourAverageJoe non of us do I was making the observations from constant footage, so about you get of your high horse don't fall getting off though.
@@carolyndymond4065 you need to analyze the black box see if the pilot sent control command or didn’t. Lost control surfaces command or didn’t. I’m not on a high horse. It’s not my country. I just find the constant armchair quarterbacking annoying. Especially since the pandemic.
@ImYourAverageJoe it's annoying, but most people not all give opinions.
It's not helping that the black hawk shouldn't have been so high, and that's a fact.
3:20 Unfortunately Helicopter was higher up than it was supposed to be.
Sounds like a brain fart 💨
Exactly if they were at the 200 instead of 350 this would have never happened.
Almost double the allowable altitude ceiling.
And it’s possible that the air traffic controller thought they were at 200 feet as his equipment may have registered as such. We don’t know yet.
100% the Black Hawks fault. Still waiting for the name of the female BH pilot who was supposedly "experienced".
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....Rebeca Lowbauck....helicopter pilot a Bidens White house DEI show pony for parties...had not flown in 6 years...
If you listen to tower communications between the pilot and the tower you will hear his voice.
@@Shihtzu99hsuajienakj Copilot handles radio communication not the PIC.
The answer to the title of this video is yes. And an inexperienced DEI Woke promoted LGBTLMNOP pilot was flying above 200ft and not in their allowed flight path.
There is no reasonable explanation for me. Why is someone who is being trained in control of a Helicopter at the wrong altitude beside a commercial landing strip. That is at least 3 things that should not be happening
Did you listen to the tower audio. He said he confirmed visuals. Tower guy thought heli was at 200 feet or so it may appear.
Not only the altitude! It's absurd for tolerating somebody cross your glide slope path just based in altitude and VFR clearance!!!! That's insane!! Totally wrong rules! Not even 3rd world countries allows this kind of stuff!! The Controller should ask the Heli to make a left orbital 360, or left 90 to confirm behind before the visual clearance!!!!!! That's basic!!! They was not even talk in the same frequency, what a dumb controll system!
They instituted the policy to take some of the burden off the ATC, instead of hiring more controllers.
It's insane to me too.
That "route 4" approved helicopter flight path which allows helicopters to crosse just 100 ft below the glide slope is absurd.
This was an accident waiting to happen and I'm shocked it took this long for an incident to take place.
Just make the damn VIP helicopters take the long way around the airport.
You sound like you know what you are talking about.
@@davefroman4700oh so its not the females fault hmmmm
The pilots clearly mistook the first jet that landed, for the one that they were to Circle Around Behind. If you look at the flight path indicators, They did a circle behind maneuver only to end up directly in front of the incoming jet.
That’s what I think, they were looking at the wrong jet
This, I think you're exactly right. Seems like the altitude and looking at the wrong jet are what contributed to this accident.
@Alexander-u3n8f 3 guys in the helicopter and they can’t see a plane coming at them
They were never told traffic would be on runway 33 approach. They probably were looking at the traffic out front on runway 1
The chopper has no business being at the altitude of 350 when the limit for them is 200. Plane or no plane.
Trump was right again the helicopter was too high and was not outspoken
The helicopter pilot requested ‘visual separation’. This means that he has sight on the plane in question and doesn’t need ATC guidance. The planes were in line for landing. It is thought that the helicopter pilot saw the plane in line after the American Airline plane they collided with. This makes the most sense with the recordings and flight patterns.
The ATC was horrible too.
This disaster looks intentional.
No it's not. As the most transportation accidents (land/water/air) it's a mixture of human error and some degree of negligence.
Looks intentional to me. Looked more like a missile trying to hit the plane. Copter can stop on a dime and hover in place but there was no such attempt it was just reeling ahead at the plane.
AGREE
@@JCX-9agree
@@JCX-9 helicopters aren't as manuverable ad you think, simply think about speeding up 800lb of metal, from 4000rpm to 8000rpm to go up and avoid it, same thing while flying, momentum is a thing, helicopters are heavy
Deliberate Helicopter Strike!!
Beeline Hit
No
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Yap exactly otherwise they had no business being at 350 in first place unless they intentionally were trying to hit a plane. I am not buying all these excuses being fed to the public.
@@JCX-9may have been another target.
So here's where I'm nervous as a Canadian. PAT25 is one of the most elite flights on the planet. From what I understand, they're military in service of government and top-brass officials for special security flights. That Blackhawk in Washington D.C. is navigating the world's most secure airspace, didn't care, and by God's hand had an inglorious mid-air collision with normal civilian air traffic operating under less than amicable tower conditions. Meanwhile on the Canadian border, the less than comparatively practiced RCMP have rented two Blackhawk helicopters for anti-immigration and anti-drug pretext because Parliament wants to pacify Trump's tariff threats. If the world's most elite soldiers can't fly this aircraft that low in such secure airspace, why are we letting the police for pseudo-tactical exposition flying? Why are we not reasonably alarmed by this?
Most likely not "the world's most elite soldier" in this case.
A 500 hour PIC is hardly "elite".
If you watch the videos, you will clearly see that there were TWO passenger aircraft near the helicopter. One that had just passed in front of the helicopter, at their 2 to 3-o'clock position, and one on approach, at approximately their 11-o'clock position. After asking if they saw the passenger aircraft; the ATC told the helicopter to "go behind" the passenger aircraft. But did NOT specify which passenger aircraft to "go behind". Unfortunately it was not specific enough. Going behind the aircraft on their (now 3-o'clock) position, took them into the flight path of the one on approach. (Just my opinion, after watching the videos.)
Air Traffic controller should have more proactive and precise and instructive. Instructing instead of inquiring. Failed to show proper authority.
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....
Blame the pilots only, not the system
Of course.
Once the black box data has been examined, interpreted, and the findings released, we will know the facts. Up to that point all is speculation, educated or otherwise.
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The coverup has already begun with SecDef Hegseth not releasing all of the names of the BlackHawk crew.
There is zero chance that plane was on a visual for the runway. They were obviously cleared by approach controller for an ILS approach. The helicopter was obviously operating under VFR rules which means they GIVE WAY to IFR traffic. Helicopter pilot clearly wasn’t paying attention and the pilots didn’t need to be as they were on a controller guided instrument approach. Same would apply even if the RNAV approach was in use.
Trump said the helicopter was too high and that should be good enough for anyone, case closed
Deliberate, misleading, miss informed, miss guided,,,that was serious accident,,,,,,you cannot play with human lives,,,,,
Dei
All of this is very odd.
This was a gold Blackhawk helicopter so someone very important was onboard
I almost skipped this clip because I thought the guy looked too old and 'tenuous' to have a useful perspective on the crash.
Was I wrong! Having watched dozens of experts comment on what happened, his observations were the clearest and
most plausible (AFAIK) I've seen over a period of days.
They are NOT BLACK BOXES FDR and CVR
São Paulo Brazil, 3 big terminals, 600 helis flying almost everyday, and this never ever happened. We have visual corridors as well but the ATC has total authority to send you 20 miles away, turns, orbits and severe altitude control over Helis, bc Helis can turn faster and planes on final has total sacred protection when they're inside THE GLIDE SLOPE !
This is the US. The military thinks they can just do what they want. 🙄
Brazil has a pretty abysmal air safety record. One of the worst countries. Indonesia is probably the worst in the world but Brazil is not far behind.
@Free-g8r not in TRAFFIC CONTROL STANDARDS. Yes, Brazil has a big crash numbers But BY equipment failure (mechanical keeping problems) and pilot error WHEN OUTSIDE TERMINALS!
OUR SAFETY NUMBERS IN TERMINAL AREA CONTROL ARE BETTER than US
@@Free-g8r you cannot rely on a visual safety separation in the night, crossing a occupied glide slope path, period! Basic rules! And a instruction fly in these terminals?? At night? Hell no Mr! We're talking about these dumb corridors rules you guys have. La Guardia and Teterboro in NJ has the same issue! Your standards are to loose! During the day, kinda ok, but at night?? Hell no! C'mon! The Heli were climbing 350ft AT GLIDE SLOPE for 33 !!!! And she knows the CRJ was configurated for the same 33 !!!
You know what? Will happen again if you guys refuse to protect the final path.
@j.wagner8639 there's no doubt these helicopter flightpaths around airports are incredibly stupid. These helicopters should take longer routes around the airport Class B airspace.
I think it is due to corruption from VIP military and political leaders who want to have convenient and fast routes for themselves. Who don't care about danger to the public.
Brampton Helicopter Pilot
They're withholding the name of the female BH pilot. Why am I not surprised?
ATC didn't give the position of the plane. They may have had one plane in their sights but not the other.
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....
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Calm down Karen, he wasn't driving the chopper....
Sounds like the helicopter DELIBERATLY crashed into the plane
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Yes.
It was the fault of DC. It sounds like they shouldn't change course for American air lines. And they shouldn't said what they did. There's been a lot of mistakes ever since COVID with flights lay layovers. It's been a mess. If you look all over the internet for the past year it's been a mess
Its really so sad to lose young bright young pilot how come i dont use sad sas may her soul rest in peace love u always 🎉
The military has a thriving drug culture .. jus sayin ..
Knew it was PAT-25's fault
Change the name of the airport to Pedro, democrats won't attack Pedro 😂
Why are people always trying to blame someone? It was a tragic accident
Someone is at fault tho…
They are not blaming anyone, they are trying to prevent it happening again.
@@dxh1799 It could be multiple reasons why it happened, Is that so hard to understand? Have you looked at Trump briefing on it? There’s multiple reasons why it happened. Not ONE singular person or thing
Good chance you were fine with blaming the unvaxxed or Trump for the pandemic, which, if we trust natural origin, is really an accident.
the culprits shouldn't go to prison
this was an ''accident''
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What is to blame is helicopter never saw the passenger jet just a few hundred feet in front of them. They were focused on a different jet landing on 01 about a mile away. They thought they were well clear. At night you don't see the other plane. All you see are lights. They lights from the plane they hit blended in with all the bright lights on the ground
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....Rebecka Lowbauck......
It was the controller in the coronavirus station that works for the airlines at d c
Good expert. Some on other networks seem quite clueless and their interviewers aren't skilled enough to understand.
What seems extraordinaryis that the 3rd crew member's name is being withheld. I could see the Army waiting to notify their family, yet unfortunately Soldiers have even less right to privacy (unless they are on some covert, off shore, mission) than the FAA Certified pilots have. I can see withholding passenger names at their bereaved family's request. Yet, I don't see how, unless the Army is still trying to locate family, they can withhold such information. Just a name, not a biography or other personal information. Whatever this is about my heart goes out to all involved and may all Rest in Peaces. May God bless all in service and especially the ones, like this crew, gave the final measure of devotion. Heartbraking.
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....Rebecka Lowbauck......
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Why is he so excited
Good morning with a smile? Jesus
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Air Traffic Controller at fault!!
She was flying at over 120 Knots at night in a very tight area and she was at least 100 feet higher than the rules allowed for that area , also she lied to the ATC tower about having sight of the Jet....she was I hear a Biden show pony for DEI hires......she was at all of Bidens White house Parties for him to show her off to his supporters....500 hours as a Helicopter pilot is so very very dangerously low according to other chopper pilots....and if she had not flown for 6 years even more so....Rebecka Lowbauck......
lol he was cute
Every politician needs to address the public and call for Trumps resignation over this..,.,
More like aptitude of pilot. And ATC.
How helicopter avoid the rocket shooting, no radar detection? Or pilot was sleeping?
I saw this reporter at subway. She was eating only banana peppers and mayo.
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We need the list of the passengers on the flight...I know for a fact someone very important to the system is on that plane
Near misses between the military and civilian traffic around Washington? Are almost a daily occurrence. Just 24 hrs before there was another incident where a Civilian liner had to abort their final because of another military helicopter. Hate to spoil your day but that is the facts. This was a disaster waiting to happen.
Global News couldnt find ice in the artic if Trump told them common sense says its there. Altitude?!?! Lol
Two Chinese 🇨🇳 nationals in the US mid-air crash? That's very suspicious!
the american military helicopter?
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OCT 2024....Lockheed Martin Executive Remotely Controls UH-60 Black Hawk from 300 Miles Away During Demo at AUSA Symposium
CIA operated it by remote control
@@CowboyBobDuke I had posted this a 100 of times. I glad one made it thrugh the shadow ban. OH and the hate fueled respones. One day the truth will come out just like 911.
Is this that 25% tarrif karma tax? 😅
Why was there a blackhawk hovering over a commercial airport. Anyone have footage of said blackhawk?
Military aircraft are allowed to use commercial airfields
A passenger live-streamed the landing, it was beyond brutal because the phone actually lands into the water, was on X but I can’t find it
It wasn't, it was flying back to its base following helicopter route 4. The controller routed the airline into its path.
DEI
Except all involved were white males, both pilots and the controller. The DEI blaming is just right wing fear mongering.
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@@brickofwar9727 my reply to him disappeared.