As a local resident I’ll say you are seeing the best of Maine people! Nothing pretend here, you often see these people when you stop in, very grounded, wholesome happy people that work harder than most anyone 7 days a week.
I'm originally from Central NY and we called small potatoes "salt potatoes". Syracuse(the salt city) had a lot of salt brine wells and men would boil the brine to evaporate the water and have salt. The workers, many were Irish immigrants, would put potatoes in the brine when boiling, and then dip them in butter and eat them for lunch. Today bags of small potatoes and pouches of salt are sold in most markets. The potatoes have a whiteish coating, squeeze them to break them open and dip in melted butter pop them in your mouth. Delicious!
Your videos reveal a great deal about all the factors involved in commercial potato farming! Hopefully anyone who watches will gain an understanding of how much equipment, infrastructure, labor hours,and shipping go into getting crops from the ground to the market. So many factors go into the cost of production, it's a miracle that food doesn't cost way more than it does! I spent 46 years in retail grocery and can attest to how small the profit margin is in the food industry! Thanks for your efforts, and thanks for the "behind the scenes" information!!
Molly and Shane, you both work hard and look like you enjoy working together running an efficient operation to get the spuds to market. Blessings to you folks.
I really enjoyed your vodie. I live in Pa. Troyes owns alot of land and they grow potatoes,corn etc for the plant. I always wondered how they did thire stuff& now thanks to you showing this video. I now know who this stuff operations. So thanks again for all you farmers & veterans do. With you this country would be in great trouble ! GOD BLESS 🙏 all you farmers & veterans for what all you do !!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am not sure about Maine, but in Idaho there are cellars in the fields to store the potatoes. They are 100 yards long so when they are empty, they make a convenient rifle and pistol range.
We don’t have any of those unfortunately. But we do have some designated places around the properties we own that make good outdoor ranges :) thank you for watching
Thank you for making these videos. Potatoes are one of my favorite foods, all ways prepared. I hope to continue to watch videos to learn your location in Maine, the number of acres of potatoes that you plant, and the number of tons of potatoes that you harvest each year.
Enjoyed your video, only it’s a lot different from my childhood memories. I grew up in southwest Idaho in the 1950’s, and my mother used to work seasonal in a packing shed. In the spring, she’d work 3-4 weeks manually cutting seed potatoes by hand. In the fall she’d work 2-3 months on the sorting line. There were usually about 6-8 ladies working the line. The potatoes were then bagged in 100lb burlap sacks, hand sewn, then loaded straight onto rail cars. If my dad didn’t have any carpenter work at the time, he’d always work at sewing the bags and loading the cars. Don’t remember exactly, but they probably was making maybe $1.25 an hour. Mom made slightly more because she was the lead sorter, and made an extra quarter an hour.
Greetings from Franklin County! I just found your channel and look forward to your videos. As a retired apple grower, it's nice to see you sharing your knowledge with people.
New to the channel Molly, Being from Akron, Ohio I always heard Devo say the word Spuds. I'm currently opening a Potato themed Restaurant, so much you can do with these Magical Spuds! Thanks for the great Videos, Danny
This is a pretty cool video to Show how potatoes are processed and everything. and you’re a fantastic teacher if I had a teacher like you back when I was in school I might’ve graduated probably with top honors. all jokes aside though this is a very interesting video👍😊
Looks like i over looked another video? Im sorry. But i got a Like on it. Its amazing how hard you work and how much of work there is to do. Thanks for sharing Miss Molly. Again im sorry that iam behind with your vlogs here. I never met to do that😢😢😢
Hi Molly i was just talking to a Guy who works security at Tambrands who is about 60 and says he went to school with one of your close relatives.I truck thru Auburn often as well as Loads into Walmart DC in Lewiston.He gave me a rough idea what part of town your farm is at . Talk about a small world i told him to check out your new ch.your content and style of video goes close to Taylor on Tayfarms somewhere up there in Maine.Another ch you might like Lumber Capitol Log yard, family run business saw mill and all various wood products,2 late teens sisters work the Wood mizer mill like pros and like yourself hard working family.
Oh cool! Small world it is. I just checked out tayfarms! I had a suggestion to check out her channel the other day. Very cool. I will have to go through all her videos! I will check out the others also. We just got a sawmill too, so it would be great to check out some videos on that. Thank you very much for the suggestions! We go into the Lewiston Walmart dc with sweet corn during the summer!
Thank you! I’m so glad you found the channel! I hope I can keep you entertained :) I’m working on some potato harvest footage and should have another video up in a day or so.
Shane is the star of The Potato Storage Show for sure! Huge responsibility and a lot of work to do it right, more than half of our potato crop goes in this building.
You guys are far and away more than a farming operation. Your a processing plant and repair facility and I assume a retail outlet as well. I’m curious as how many hours are in you’ll day. What I’ve seen of your operating it’s a good thing you’ll are young. Be safe
A shame this isn't shown, including all farming and related technology, to educate in schools and population in general, how important farms and downstream processing is for humanity. True heroes!!!!! And yet Hollywood and sports make the money, and have never put an ounce of food on anyone's table!!! People better get educated about who should really be idolized, your local farms !!!!
I have only been subscribed for 5 minutes and Molly is for sure the big beautiful lady star of this channel, and her husband is the back up support guy , nice 👍 I love that honey 🍯 flow bottle deal, and it’s pricey out here in California, 60 to 75 dollars 💵 for private wild honey, thanks BigAl California,,,praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
The potatoes we take home today are so much cleaner than they used to be. I remember when i was young, mom bought them in 10# mesh bags and there was always a little covering of dirt under the bag. Is the Spudnik conveyor Russian made? If you're old enough, you'll understand and get a chuckle for that.
Hahah no they are not Russian, but the name is very clever. Uncle ray was talking about how they used to dry brush the potatoes instead of using a wet washer. I didn’t know that until I was filming this video. Thank you for watching!
y`all sure have a LOT more ( expensive) equipment than texas cotton/ wheat farmers ... ( i`m a retired foreign car mechanic from austin; living now in west texas......never unscrewed a nut bigger than 30mm)
hm.. i keep looking closely at the bags of potatoes in texas` stores..( HEB & brookshires) but there`s no saying just where they were grown.... ( i like the Bell Farms potatoes... )
Yeah there’s a lot of equipment, but it wasn’t all bought at once. The bell family has slowly been upgrading the packing over the years. Thanks for watching!
We grow mainly Norwis potatoes, they are a bit tougher to grow then other varieties but they are a great frying potato for fries, and also are great baked and mashed. We grow about 20 acres of yellows as well, Satina has been the variety we’ve grown for a while, but seed is getting hard to come by so we will try a different variety next year it looks like.
Does it put a bakers dozen into the bags? Okay, you have your potato line set up to grade and bag. Pretty nice,but HOW DO YOU GET ALL THE HUGE STORES OF SPUDS INTO THIS grader system? What an operation. I love growing spuds at home here in N WI. Not too good this year. Dry.
Hey there! We just started bagging from our storage bins. I’ll be making a video on that very soon :) we had a super wet year, as we pull potatoes out of storage we will get a good look at how the harvest actually went. Lots of yield, hopefully the quality is good too. Thank you so much for watching!
The automation is nicethat you use..we use an old type bagger like what you use for the chefs.Except it was a double shoot one..I see you guys stack 50s in a 5 block? Have you tired a 6 block instead?? You dont have to stack them as high an the stack are tighter.
Yes we use a 5 block. I think the guys might have used it in the past. But for whatever reason they have stuck with the 5. When we do 6 blocks for special orders it messes us all up hahahh so used to 8 row high!
@@BellsFarming I was curious how many you grew. Thanks for answering my question...do you get all your seed from maine than? I get my seed from max in maine.
We do. Obviously we prefer to sell our products, but we do a lot of donations as well. Good shepherd food bank does a lot of business with local farmers in the area, and food pantries.
The culverts allow for airflow to the bottom of the potato pile. This helps keep them fresh and helps with any pressure brushing that can occur from all the weight of the pile.
It all depends on what type of order we are filling. We only have one automatic bagger, so as we’re sorting potatoes whatever doesn’t make the cut to the automatic bagger gets bagged by hand.
Your video reminded me of when my uncle grew apples in Harvard Mass 32 miles west of Boston. He would deliver three pound plastic bags of apples in a cardboard box to hay market square in Boston and get 29 cents a bag. They would be sold for 79 cent a bag at A&P markets. He was definitely was on the wrong side of the deal, might have to ask your dad what or who A&P was?
I was 17 and working with our neighbor the first full year and went to plug the power cord in the bin loader in the rain and got knocked on my ASS‼️ scared the old man ‼️.
As a local resident I’ll say you are seeing the best of Maine people! Nothing pretend here, you often see these people when you stop in, very grounded, wholesome happy people that work harder than most anyone 7 days a week.
Hey there, thank you for the kind words! And thank you for watching! 💚🥔🌽
I love the name of that binpiler "Spudnik" haha, nice.
Our family used to manufacture potato lines for packing sheds and single and twin head potato baggers. Interesting business.
oh,your right,,,there are potatoes in the video
I'm originally from Central NY and we called small potatoes "salt potatoes". Syracuse(the salt city) had a lot of salt brine wells and men would boil the brine to evaporate the water and have salt. The workers, many were Irish immigrants, would put potatoes in the brine when boiling, and then dip them in butter and eat them for lunch. Today bags of small potatoes and pouches of salt are sold in most markets. The potatoes have a whiteish coating, squeeze them to break them open and dip in melted butter pop them in your mouth. Delicious!
Yum! I sometime boil them in salt too! Thank you for watching Kevin!
Your videos reveal a great deal about all the factors involved in commercial potato farming! Hopefully anyone who watches will gain an understanding of how much equipment, infrastructure, labor hours,and shipping go into getting crops from the ground to the market.
So many factors go into the cost of production, it's a miracle that food doesn't cost way more than it does! I spent 46 years in retail grocery and can attest to how small the profit margin is in the food industry! Thanks for your efforts, and thanks for the "behind the scenes" information!!
Thank you very much for watching!
True facts 🙏🏼
Neat operation and food is a lot more expensive than farmers get paid for.
🌏🌍🌎🕊️ and healthy food for everyone 😉
Molly and Shane, you both work hard and look like you enjoy working together running an efficient operation to get the spuds to market. Blessings to you folks.
That was very well explained and way to sell the product great video as always Molly,
Thanks Brian. Nice chef stacking!
Very cool to see this entire process and how things work...great video!
Thanks guys! I’m looking forward to your next video!
Impressive. Looks like a very well run operation. Great camera work for this.
Thank very much!
I really enjoyed your vodie. I live in Pa. Troyes owns alot of land and they grow potatoes,corn etc for the plant. I always wondered how they did thire stuff& now thanks to you showing this video. I now know who this stuff operations. So thanks again for all you farmers & veterans do. With you this country would be in great trouble ! GOD BLESS 🙏 all you farmers & veterans for what all you do !!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you Tom for watching and the support! I’m glad I can teach you about our potato operation.
I am not sure about Maine, but in Idaho there are cellars in the fields to store the potatoes. They are 100 yards long so when they are empty, they make a convenient rifle and pistol range.
We don’t have any of those unfortunately. But we do have some designated places around the properties we own that make good outdoor ranges :) thank you for watching
When do you ever get a break,, we’re neighbors and now I know why you’re never home..GOD look over all of you ,keep you strong and healthy..❤
Oh cool! Thanks for watching! What house are you? Yeah we stay pretty busy. But we both love it!
Damn it, everytime she said evenflow, i kept hearing Pearl Jam in my head >.<
😁
Great video Molly and Shane
Enjoying your videos.
All ways interesting content.
You present it very well.
Hope you’re channel is a success.
Thank you very much! I hope I can keep people interested too.
Thanks pretty lady! That was informative and interesting. I love any kind of spud.❤
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for making these videos. Potatoes are one of my favorite foods, all ways
prepared. I hope to continue to watch videos to learn your location in Maine, the number
of acres of potatoes that you plant, and the number of tons of potatoes that you harvest
each year.
Thank you very much for watching! There will lots of cool stuff going on. Winter is mostly potatoes :)
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing.
Enjoyed your video, only it’s a lot different from my childhood memories. I grew up in southwest Idaho in the 1950’s, and my mother used to work seasonal in a packing shed. In the spring, she’d work 3-4 weeks manually cutting seed potatoes by hand. In the fall she’d work 2-3 months on the sorting line. There were usually about 6-8 ladies working the line. The potatoes were then bagged in 100lb burlap sacks, hand sewn, then loaded straight onto rail cars. If my dad didn’t have any carpenter work at the time, he’d always work at sewing the bags and loading the cars. Don’t remember exactly, but they probably was making maybe $1.25 an hour. Mom made slightly more because she was the lead sorter, and made an extra quarter an hour.
I love hearing these old stories of farming! I will say, ladies do great detail work!
Greetings from Franklin County! I just found your channel and look forward to your videos. As a retired apple grower, it's nice to see you sharing your knowledge with people.
Hey there! I’m glad you found my channel! Thank you for watching :)
We had so many dirt clots going through in eastern NC. Such a pain. I’m a apple farmer now in NJ. Y’all got a nice clean system. 👍
Thanks for the compliment. We try really hard to keep things operating smooth. How was your apples crop this year?
She got 2 beautiful potatoes
Great video! Very interesting and informative.
Hey thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it
Like Kramer from Seinfeld said "that's a lot of potato's" lol, very informative videos, greetings from Alberta Canada!
Thank you very much for watching
New to the channel Molly, Being from Akron, Ohio I always heard Devo say the word Spuds. I'm currently opening a Potato themed Restaurant, so much you can do with these Magical Spuds! Thanks for the great Videos, Danny
Hey Danny, I am from Vermilion Ohio. That’s cool you are opening a potato restaurant! I wish you the best of luck! Thank you for watching my videos!
That is an impressive job.
Thank you
This is a pretty cool video to Show how potatoes are processed and everything. and you’re a fantastic teacher if I had a teacher like you back when I was in school I might’ve graduated probably with top honors. all jokes aside though this is a very interesting video👍😊
Thank you for watching!
@@BellsFarming 👍😊
Very interesting video! Thank you for sharing on how you handle the potatoes. Great Video!!
Thank you for watching!
just came across your channel and love all your videos keep them coming
Thank you very much! That makes me very happy. I plan to make many more! Thank you for watching ❤️
Looks like i over looked another video? Im sorry. But i got a Like on it. Its amazing how hard you work and how much of work there is to do. Thanks for sharing Miss Molly. Again im sorry that iam behind with your vlogs here. I never met to do that😢😢😢
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Hi Molly i was just talking to a Guy who works security at Tambrands who is about 60 and says he went to school with one of your close relatives.I truck thru Auburn often as well as Loads into Walmart DC in Lewiston.He gave me a rough idea what part of town your farm is at . Talk about a small world i told him to check out your new ch.your content and style of video goes close to Taylor on Tayfarms somewhere up there in Maine.Another ch you might like Lumber Capitol Log yard, family run business saw mill and all various wood products,2 late teens sisters work the Wood mizer mill like pros and like yourself hard working family.
Oh cool! Small world it is. I just checked out tayfarms! I had a suggestion to check out her channel the other day. Very cool. I will have to go through all her videos! I will check out the others also. We just got a sawmill too, so it would be great to check out some videos on that. Thank you very much for the suggestions!
We go into the Lewiston Walmart dc with sweet corn during the summer!
I like the chef’s potatoes best😊
Nice video Molly, me and Carol just got home from vacation
Oh great! I missed seeing you guys! I hope you had a wonderful vacation I can’t wait to hear about it.
I love these videos..... you guys rock.
Thank you! We love what we do, I’m glad to be able to share it with others now too
Enjoyed this thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed:)
Love your channel
Thank you very much!
Awesome video! Been looking for your channel every since surviving Maine on twenty acres mentioned you
Thank you! I’m so glad you found the channel! I hope I can keep you entertained :) I’m working on some potato harvest footage and should have another video up in a day or so.
Very impressive, now I want potato chips. 😅 Thanks for Sharing 😊
You are very welcome, thank you for watching
After watching this video and a few others on this channel, I'm craving french fries
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Great video thank you for the awesome educational experience ❤😁👍
Thank you for watching
I love potatoes!
Me too!!
Great video Molly😊
Thank you Kim!
Ja, die Kartoffeln sind sehr schön verpackt.🤩😃🤩🤑
love it keep em commin
I just look for the moment that the star of the show comes out. SHANE!!!
Shane is the star of The Potato Storage Show for sure! Huge responsibility and a lot of work to do it right, more than half of our potato crop goes in this building.
Gawd love you’re potatoes there so nice
Delicious looking round and firm potatoes
Clear talk.....go go🤗
Great content.
Thank you for watching
You guys are far and away more than a farming operation. Your a processing plant and repair facility and I assume a retail outlet as well. I’m curious as how many hours are in you’ll day. What I’ve seen of your operating it’s a good thing you’ll are young. Be safe
:) we all are very busy that’s for sure.
I believe your dog has some Akita in it. First time seeing your videos enjoyed
Hey chuck thank you for watching! Yes she is 100% American Akita. I have 4 of them. I like akitas, have you had one before?
Love ur content keep up the great work. Ur smokin too
Thank you very much for the compliment and I’m glad you enjoy our videos!
your awsome
I learned from the best!
Good system
And now I know! Very cool...thank you.
Thank you for watching :)
Great video
Thank you for watching :)
Thank you for watching :)
Always something to do on the farm
Nice potatoes 🤘
Hey thanks!
looking good
Thanks! Did you watch the new one ?
Awesome thank you
Your so beautiful molly, shane is a very lucky guy
A shame this isn't shown, including all farming and related technology, to educate in schools and population in general, how important farms and downstream processing is for humanity. True heroes!!!!! And yet Hollywood and sports make the money, and have never put an ounce of food on anyone's table!!! People better get educated about who should really be idolized, your local farms !!!!
I like the way you worded that! Thank you for the support and watching!
I have only been subscribed for 5 minutes and Molly is for sure the big beautiful lady star of this channel, and her husband is the back up support guy , nice 👍 I love that honey 🍯 flow bottle deal, and it’s pricey out here in California, 60 to 75 dollars 💵 for private wild honey, thanks BigAl California,,,praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
Nice spuds ….I like nice spuds …lol
Lots of machinery to grade and store spuds, at our place i was the digger, grader and bagger (for our few hundred pounds, ha ha).
thx. Now I bought me some potatoes.
Oh good! Thank you for watching :)
This amazing the potato goes through for the field to bags! Very interesting! Do you sell to potato chip makers? Thanks again.
Would that shirt be suitable to use when welding?
Vc e espesial e um prazer ovir vc❤🎉
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoy the videos
The potatoes we take home today are so much cleaner than they used to be. I remember when i was young, mom bought them in 10# mesh bags and there was always a little covering of dirt under the bag. Is the Spudnik conveyor Russian made? If you're old enough, you'll understand and get a chuckle for that.
Hahah no they are not Russian, but the name is very clever. Uncle ray was talking about how they used to dry brush the potatoes instead of using a wet washer. I didn’t know that until I was filming this video. Thank you for watching!
EVENFLOW is a Pearl Jam song! They wouldn'thave a clue what yall do! Lol
It’s a great song too, Big AIC fans here !! Thanks for watching!
My,my👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you watching!
👍
y`all sure have a LOT more ( expensive) equipment than texas cotton/ wheat farmers ... ( i`m a retired foreign car mechanic from austin; living now in west texas......never unscrewed a nut bigger than 30mm)
Maine Made👍❤
What's covering the walls on the potato storage building?
Spray foam insulation, it’s about 6” thick
@@shanebell9589 That's what I thought was.
hm.. i keep looking closely at the bags of potatoes in texas` stores..( HEB & brookshires) but there`s no saying just where they were grown.... ( i like the Bell Farms potatoes... )
Our potatoes don’t make it that far. Thank you for looking though!
So with Potatoes 🥔 as well...SIZE DOES MATTER! 😊
Hahah it does!
Do you know what part of the country those potatoes are ship?
All of our potatoes usually stay in the new England states. Thank for watching :)
am suddenly hungreh 4 a baked potato or maybe some roasted potats
Yum me too!
Great camera and edit thanks. Do you use chlorine for sanitising? I guess the large pipes are for ventilation, is it forces aeration or cooling?
Hey thanks for watching! We use Sanidate for potato storage disinfectant. And yes the large culverts are for air flow!
How important is it to wash potatoes before cooking them. Are their a lot of chemicals and pesticides on Potatoes? cool vids, Thanks!
So I will be completely honest with you. I never wash my potatoes before I cook them. lol
THESE GIRLS ARE half of agriculture.....sometimes, more.
Its amazing how much money in equipment you have... It takes a bunch of taters just for the overhead alone
Yeah there’s a lot of equipment, but it wasn’t all bought at once. The bell family has slowly been upgrading the packing over the years. Thanks for watching!
The real crazy part is a lot of stuff we have we only use 2-4 weeks a year….
What potato varieties do you grow? Does Maine have certain varieties that the locals like to buy?
We grow mainly Norwis potatoes, they are a bit tougher to grow then other varieties but they are a great frying potato for fries, and also are great baked and mashed. We grow about 20 acres of yellows as well, Satina has been the variety we’ve grown for a while, but seed is getting hard to come by so we will try a different variety next year it looks like.
Do you sell only wholesale
Hey there. We have a farm store that is open 8-5 everyday of the week currently. After Halloween we will be closed Sunday’s. And be open 8-4. :)
Does it put a bakers dozen into the bags? Okay, you have your potato line set up to grade and bag. Pretty nice,but HOW DO YOU GET ALL THE HUGE STORES OF SPUDS INTO THIS grader system? What an operation. I love growing spuds at home here in N WI. Not too good this year. Dry.
Hey there! We just started bagging from our storage bins. I’ll be making a video on that very soon :) we had a super wet year, as we pull potatoes out of storage we will get a good look at how the harvest actually went. Lots of yield, hopefully the quality is good too. Thank you so much for watching!
behind her at 16:07
The automation is nicethat you use..we use an old type bagger like what you use for the chefs.Except it was a double shoot one..I see you guys stack 50s in a 5 block? Have you tired a 6 block instead?? You dont have to stack them as high an the stack are tighter.
Yes we use a 5 block. I think the guys might have used it in the past. But for whatever reason they have stuck with the 5. When we do 6 blocks for special orders it messes us all up hahahh so used to 8 row high!
@@BellsFarming . How many acres do you guys farm??
@@paullhommedieu2795we farm around 500. Around 150 of potatoes.
@@BellsFarming I was curious how many you grew. Thanks for answering my question...do you get all your seed from maine than? I get my seed from max in maine.
forget the following you just showed the store
Curious as to your whereabouts?
We are in Lewiston and Auburn Maine
Are you guys Okay? I haven't seen a video posted since the last "edit"...Send smoke signals.....
Yes we are good! I’m actually visiting my dad this weekend. I’m going to try and get a video out this weekend :)
Do you ever give away potatoes to food banks or something? Thanks for sharing
We do. Obviously we prefer to sell our products, but we do a lot of donations as well. Good shepherd food bank does a lot of business with local farmers in the area, and food pantries.
What’s the purpose(s) of the culverts ?
The culverts allow for airflow to the bottom of the potato pile. This helps keep them fresh and helps with any pressure brushing that can occur from all the weight of the pile.
Your potatoes are some size!!
Do you sell potatoes to Five Guys? I love their fries.
No we don’t, they have contracts w farms in Idaho I believe
Why do some get bagged by hand and some get put through the auto bagger?
It all depends on what type of order we are filling. We only have one automatic bagger, so as we’re sorting potatoes whatever doesn’t make the cut to the automatic bagger gets bagged by hand.
Cool. Thank You for the reply.
Your video reminded me of when my uncle grew apples in Harvard Mass 32 miles west of Boston. He would deliver three pound plastic bags of apples in a cardboard box to hay market square in Boston and get 29 cents a bag. They would be sold for 79 cent a bag at A&P markets. He was definitely was on the wrong side of the deal, might have to ask your dad what or who A&P was?
I will have to ask uncle Ray and Dave about that!
This was in the mid to late 60’s. A&P was a supermarket chain.I’m 73.@@BellsFarming
I would put a hole in the bucket so I wouldn’t need a chain
Ha, yeah there probably is one. There is a hole in every thing else lol. Forks, Skid steer
I was 17 and working with our neighbor the first full year and went to plug the power cord in the bin loader in the rain and got knocked on my ASS‼️ scared the old man ‼️.
Wow it’s luck you were alright! Those are some big cords.
and another one starting off right off behind her up left ...