Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it: With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP% However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP% As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless).
Yelan being this F2P friendly really shows that Genshin is going the right direction with 5 stars! Not only do you not need any constellations she can also work with 3/4/5 star weapons that are “easy” to obtain. I’m glad we are getting these characters! She is also fun to play so that’s a bonus.
Yup, I'm very satisfied with my pulls for her. Considering my artifacts are a bit copium for now she still does good damage and her gameplay loop is so good
For everybody who's sad to not have an access to Recurve bow - Favonius Bow should be mathematically superior simply because it gives more effective stats. Recurve bow dealing more dmg for Xlice here is just due to artifact variance
This is the most detailed review and analysis anyone can hope for to achieve. It has a lot of hard work behind from what I see. Earned a like thank you for all your effort.
Elegy Yelan Xingqiu Hutao team is quite insane, might not have done the most damage in the video, but for vape, Elegy probably wins her "BiS" I thought she was gon be yet another fomo unit with tons of potentials locked behind a pay wall, quite pleasantly surprised that even 3* work well for her
for Vape teams, Elegy wins out. It's about 20-24% damage boost for Hutao/Yoimiya, plus additional 7%+ damage on Xingqiu (worst case, assuming he doens't reverse vape) and other sub. While Aqua Simulacra will only add about 20% damage to Yelan only assuming you having to swap out a HP artifact to ER to keep her at 200% ER rate.
@@SadBoy-pr6zq hu tao is the only pyro character who needs that much hydro applications, she's good in other vape teams, so how is her potential lock in constellations? hu tao+xingqiu+yelan is also a solid team comp, it can even outdamage double geo hu tao in some scenarios. she has high damage potential even with a 3* or 4* bow, so i don't think she's locked behind paywall.
Yeah I think he should have emphasized the buff that elegy provides the entire team. She is almost with her out a doubt going to be used on reaction heavy teams. The team wide mastery and attack buff is huge
Yelan is a really fun character to use and I haven't had that much fun playing with a character since Hu Tao was released. I really like how open they made her to being able to used a variety of weapon options. I'm currently using the Polar Star on her, and I dont know if I should just use my Elegy bow instead. Currently running her in a Zhongli/Raiden/Sara and Kazuha/Raiden/Yoimiya comp.
Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it: With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP% However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP% As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless).
@@musix3197 R5 Recurve and R1 Recurve are the same thing lol. For showcasing damage sure, but for real situation you need sufficient ER (unless you run Xingqiu, then sure go full dps).
I really like this as a separate video. I'm always interested to see the weapon comparisons, but it felt like it interrupted the flow of the main guide before. Good idea breaking it down like this!
Honestly I'll probably end up using Fading Twilight since I've already leveled it to 90, but the fact that Recurve Bow is competitive in this line up is strange and refreshing. I might level that one up also depending on how my artifact farming goes. If I get a really good ER timepiece, I go for Recurve, if I get a really good HP% timepiece, I go for Fading? Good thing I kept an R5 version of Recurve around just in case.
@@Arguing101 for me it’s: Finally some usage for my Fourth Elegy that I got from the Homa banner. I got all of them from the same banner to get Two Homas… I hate the weapon banner.
Goddamn I know it's useful now, but somehow I still am so salty about losing that 50/50. Didn't even get hutao's c1 either. Worst pulling session I ever had since launch
Man I thought I had a recurve bow, but I guess I threw them all away. I thought it was the gacha one since they look so similar... I hope we have a chance to get more of these soon, like we did with Liyue weapons, or whenever we get more 4*s we get one that has Hp% and good perks... I wish we could just buy these weapons though for Mora.
Although damage wise recurve bow is superior I'd argue that it's negligible considering how much uptime you can get with Favonius Warbow especially at R5. (Unless you have godly er rolls or running an er sands)
I have an R5 Recurve Bow in stock and I feel like the king. Always make it a point to keep 6 of each weapon (even 3 Star weapons) in your inventory. It might come in handy one day. 😅 May be even The Bell will serve a purpose one day.
Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it: With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP% However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP% As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless). Really good video though, genshin content creators use to just say what technically are the best weapons for a character instead of trying them and showing the damage.
Uhh no. The hp % is what made recurve bow deal more dmg than favonius. Favonius provides nothing for damage whatsoever. She scales purely on hp and not any source of atk. She really only needs 140% ER which can be obtained through sub stats.
I personally find the passive for the recurve bow very helpful, I don’t have any high levelled shielders or healers so being able to regenerate quite a bit especially against groups of enemies is really handy.
@@xavigoeswild6827 If she was a carry DPS yes, but being off-filed most of the time and scaling with HP (which makes her a little tanky) makes this passive useless.
yall have recurve?? ion even have mine in my inventory,, either fed it bfr accidentally when i was new orr i just never got one. Tho I'm not 100% in mondstadt, so maybe i can get it. Idk.
Great video, liked when you made this at the start of your yt channel, very grateful you did one for Yelan, as shes a great character and a very peculiar case in terms of weapon choices.
Personally, I'm using the sharpshooter's oath on her currently. yyas it's a 3 star bow but does enough dmg so far :), currently level 70. I would use er on her buut im still working on her build so we'll see :"), the new f2p bow also looks rlly cool design wise and seems like a great option for yelan! Also edit = I wont be pulling for Aquq Simulacra because as a f2p it is simply not worth taking the risk this time, also am saving for kazuha even if i have a 50/50 and im building pity on xiao's banner. I dont mind getting xiao cuz i have right artifacts prepared for him anyway, and if i lose I'll either go on kazuha's or save till hu tao's (even if its monthhhhhs away), becuz yelan + ei + hu tao combo is nice. thooo, goodluck to those pulling for aqua simulacra and yelan!
Probably the best F2P weapon banner though, both weapons either have crit rate/crit damage stat and gives universal damage increase. You can basically use both weapons on anyone unconditionally.
@@bursky09 right, but i feel like focusing on getting characters more. I dont mind building pity on it, of course, but its jjst not possible for me since im pretty broke aswell after getting yelan. Though, yes, it's an amazing weapon banner and it's pretty f2p friendly.
Thanks a lot bro i was actually using lvl.90 sharpshooter oath but starting to have second thoughts about it but now i know other players also use it thanks
Lost my 50/50 on Elegy when wishing for Homa. Lost my 50/50 wishing for Venti this 2.6 but this guaranteed Yelan and now she's rocking that Elegy. With that plus Xingqiu, Zhongli, & R5 Dragon's Bane... my Hu Tao is now breezing through the spiral abyss with ease. Now my current pity in the weapon banner is 57 and will be saving that for Homa in the future. Yes, Elegy may not be the best for her personal damage but it is just too good on her and it makes her a top tier support/sub dps. 👍
Sharpshooters oath is actually way better than blackcliff since it’s passive will actually work with breakthrough barb shots while blackcliff’s is useless, it offers higher crit dmg, and it’s apparently cheaper to get to 90.
Sharpahooter's oath only gives 47 ish CD or something, that's like 2/3 the value Slingshot provides, the BRB damage also is already buffed by Slingshot as with Yelan you're already fighting close range to begin with, no need to aim for weak points either.
@@MuhammadKharismawan Yeah, but that’s why I’m not comparing oath to slingshot, I’m comparing it directly to blackcliff since, as a 4*, it’s a complete downgrade.
I'm still missing recurve. I thought i had one, but ig not. Also haven't gotten dark iron yet i don't think... maybe I'll go ahead and get it before i fuck up
I think your results on Recurve Bow are gonna be quite a bit higher than the average player here tbh. Like it doing that much more damage than crit weapons basically assumes you have godly amounts of crit on your artifacts instead which most people simply won't have. I did a lot of calcs based on the artifacts I had available myself and for me Slingshot (and Skyward Harp though I obv wouldn't use it) outperform it in terms of raw dps simply because I don't have perfect crit rolls on artifacts but I do have some HP% rolls here and there instead But anyway Favonius Warbow is probably the go-to for most people if you have the appropriate artifacts to match it since it also has a useful passive on top of all its ER
Yea this is what is strange to me in this video. In previous videos he has called out that crit weapons make it much easier to build and give greater options when it comes to choosing artifacts based on their main stat. This one is just like 'avoid crit weapons and just get that extra 25% crit rate from artis' like its no big deal haha. Actually I would say his stat column doesn't make any sense to me. How does Viridescent score 34k less dmg per rotation than favonious warbow when that build got more crit rate, crit dmg, ER, and only 600 less HP? What is this generic DMG Bonus% column? What is that composed of? Something there doesn't feel right at all. Its the first time I've watched one of his videos and just felt its wrong.
@@Raykahn you missed a few things. The reason why VH’s damage is low is because of the Hydro damage bonus. He ran an HP goblet with VH to match the crit ratios and ER ratios to match the Emblem passive, while also making sure his Yelan had enough HP to compete - which was the baseline 25k hp. With Favonius providing so much ER, he could easily run a hydro goblet with an HP sands, and that’s why Favonius has more damage. Hope I answered your questions.
@L Lawliet No I got that, but wouldn't he get more dmg anyways running a hydro goblet? Why are we trying to equalize life totals for this comparison? The goal of the test is to show potential damage output with various weapons, shouldn't he always be running the most ideal setup (within reason) to maximize damage? Maybe the math works in favor of it, but offhand I would think there is zero reason to ever forego a hydro goblet for any other mainstat goblet unless the character already has huge built in elemental bonus. That to me makes this test not a true comparison. Too many variables are changing between the tests for it to be a valid. I am willing to be wrong. If running the extra hp on the goblet actual out damages the hydro bonus then I completely get it. If it doesn't though, and it was just done to say 'see all is equal!' then this test is junk.
@@Raykahn I understand what you're trying to say. I could be wrong but perhaps he did test the numbers with a hydro goblet but found the damage to be lower than when running an HP goblet? I cant say for sure until I test it myself, but it is possible.
@@godhimself7708 At the end of the day you're going to want HP%, ER and crit. Whichever you have on your weapon you can neglect on your artifacts whilst focusing on the other two. So regardless of which of these weapons you're using they should mathematically be just as viable with the complementary artifact stats. But yeah you should definitely run a hydro goblet on any weapon, that's a stat you can't get from anywhere else, the others can all be gotten via artifact substats or weapon. The reason Favonius is generally preferred as the f2p option is because it also has a nice passive on top of all the ER, but it makes no sense for Recurve Bow to perform that well on this list because its 46.9% HP is the same thing as the 31.2% crit rate from Slingshot or the 61.3% ER from Fav in terms of artifact substat roll value. Weapon substats are scaled in the same way artifact rolls are after all
Truly blessed having Xlice guide in Genshin community. 🙏 A stranger in discord doubting me for posting this guide as reference. Feels bad for him not testing the damage number himself yet doubting without checking the guide first. But I will always stand my ground with thrusting Xlice. 🙏
For the showcases, you should have probably used another character that does physical damage on normal attack to see yelan’s damage better. But whatever it is visible.
It might be a small detail but I absolutely LOVE the fact that Mr Xlice takes into account that not everyone might have their weapons at LVL 90 and made LVL 80 weapon showcases🔥🔥. This is extremely well done and very helpful. Thank you Mr Xlice🙏🙏🙏👍
here is another reason to use slingshot, the substat which is 60% dmg increase can be trigger with yelan breakthrough damage, not a huge deal but for me it help a lot doing open world fight
This was super helpful. I recently ended up pulling Elegy instead of Cyno's signature polearm so I've been trying to decide whether to give Elegy to Yelan or replace Skyward on Venti with it and give Skyward to Yoimiya/Yelan. But with this video and a different Venti comparison video, I think imma keep Skyward on Venti and give Elegy to Yelan.
@@loly42069 nice, I was thinking of doing 2 HoD 2 Noblesse since I have the pieces and it comes out to a 35% dmg increase but I might farm emblem instead since it can go higher though. Well, time to do that for the next 2 weeks lol
I never really thought that I already fully built yelan without grinding for her. 68:210 ratio with Fading twighlight, she definitely is the best character that I have in my current team next to ayaya.
My Emblem pieces kept rolling into HP, so I'd been using Emblem on Zhongli as copium. So when I got Yelan, I just ended up moving all those artifacts to her
@@justjeffyt If the stats are exactly 68:210, then that would imply 247.6CV from artifacts, including circlet main stat, so without that main stat (assuming it's a crit main stat) that would come out to 185.4CV from substats
@@darkdude1996ify My mistake, I didn’t include the base crit rate. So you’re saying you get 185.4cv from artifacts? You have four 41cv pieces plus a 21.4cv circlet?
@@justjeffyt Realistically speaking, a 25-30CV circlet substat is fairly respectable for endgame, so assuming 25.4 would net an average 40CV. If it's a 2p/2p build, I'd say that's relatively high, but still fairly normal for endgame, especially if you consider that feathers and flowers tend to roll relatively well. Personally my Ayato ended up with similar stats after throwing leftover artifacts on him (though that's with Noblesse/Shimenawa, so although it works for now, it's kinda copium)
wait. all in all, the rotation damage difference only 50k at max. that is in a sense, does not make extra rotation difference in abyss. it would save like 10-20 seconds at max in abyss if shit happens. but that doesnt justify the primogems to chase for a specific weapon
Yelan is such an unbelievable unit. Immediately when I got her I created the national team with her (never leveled xing qiu since I don’t have any 5* pyro unit lmao) and I destroyed the abyss for the first time with 36*. Previously I always got 32-33*. Of course I have c2 raiden and c6 xiangling and c5 bennet (im not gonna c6 lel) and my yelan is a measly level 80 with level 70 weapon (aqua) and talents at 6/7/8. Imagine what she can do if I optimize her as well as my xiangling completely. Everyone who can and is thinking about should definitely pull for her as she is as revolutionary as raiden and kazuha.
i think its really important to note that people should do their own testing based on their artifacts/weapons available. for what i have, funny enough the stringless is better than all of the other bows. dont ask me to explain why, math and i arent really great friends. only the aqua would be better for me without taking vaporize into account. the weapons are really close and everyone can pick what they prefer, but ive also seen other videos/charts where the numbers are a bit different so i think if someone really cares about min/maxing based on available options then its really worth it to test a bit and not just use charts. its nice to see 3* being really good options for once though. personally im super happy one of my r5 stringless found a purpose.
Honestly elegy is the imo the best in slot for her ( in a vaporise team comp )because her own damage is not the most important thing and that em and attack buff is insane. This is what i run with my yoimiya and she went from around 50 k no vape to around 125 k vaporise
I am going to give my Yelan the Elegy. The passive would be so beneficial for Hu Tao/Funerational. Plus, the massive ER is nice, given my other ER bows are being used atm.
i dont know why he didnt test fading twilight r5 since every will get the refinements with the event, unless he recorded this on the first day of the patch
Great video. I have been using the stringless, elegy, favonious and the new bow. And after a couple of experiments I realized that she has some problems related It with ER (even with C1). If she is going to fight agains 1 enemy (like a boos), Her ER must be close to 200% (or even more without C1). On another hand, If the field has a lot of enemies, the ER could be lower because she will receive others energy particles from the enemy.
Just love Yelan with elegy, hydro bow sub dps that can use elegy without cringe unnecessary tryhard is huge. Yelan and Xingqiu together can deal 18k + 12k off field dps (both full er and deald this much, can be bettrr by 5-10k), on top of my diluc 40k-60k with painslasher, and bennett. My other team is either ayato ec or eula raiden or moyaka. I have most hydro characters except childe and kokomi, my account feels less boring since the ones i have works very well in any team i want, both sides of the abyss. NA Itto with yelan xingqiu gorou can delete PMA with ease too. Kinda hope to get kokomi, i lost 50:50 TWICE on her and got c2 Qiqi. I want to try ayato yelan xingqiu kokomi so bad haha.
lost my 5th 50/50 today in a row i was ready to watch the guide so i pulled my last wish for the five star to end up getting c2 jean im still in pain since it happened only 10minutes ago
Sooo if someone even sees this, i dont understand why skyward harp would be so low, compared to lets say, favonius. it adds so much CV, only downside is you get like 15% extra dmg bonus from emblem set with fav, but thats it?? why is the damage bonus set so low on harp when the only thing that changes is that? You can still perfectly run HP Hydro Crit so I dont understand?
I have both an r5 favonius and a r5 sacrificial bow but sadly those are already being used by Gorou and Diona so I guess I'll have to Raise the fading twilight for Yelan
Hey Xlice, thanks for the video! Just one thing tho, I think that in an ideal rotation wouldn't you include a Charged Att for Yelan's Barb Shot passive before and after her elemental skill? I think the damage for these charged attacks is non-negligible especially if you hit multiple targets with the aoe and weapons like Slingshot(passive) or Sac bow(a bonus skill+CA) would benefit these charged attacks. It might change some of these results/conclusions.
in actual use cases, i've been more punished trying to incorporate a CA Barb Shot after an E Skill usage since it's RNG, i've been conditioned to not use it at all. i find that favonius bow has the most consistent and positively feedbacking weapon to use for budget players in practice
I don't get it how is crit based weapon less effective by 15% than non crit based ones? If example, I got my yelan up to 70/170 CR CD due to using Slingshot, and are already managing 189 ER from substats alone with CD, Hydro and HP main stats, will picking Favonius or Recurve improve my damage or no?
I'll just use Recurve Bow since that's just rare to see a HP substat on a weapon. I wish there was a HP main stat bow tho. ngl I never realised I got 1 b4 and now since I got one from the npc, its just worth it to me.
@@annachang11 Well idk I'm sure its main stat is atk then second stat is HP or something like that. Her 5 star weapon is a bit odd but ig its just to balance it lol
Rotation damage doesn't necessarily equate to team comps and stuff though, right? What's better for Ayaka freeze vs HuTao Vape vs Raiden main, for example? (I don't have Aqua Simluacra, but I do have Elegy, R5 Mouun's Moon, and most all of the other 3* and 4* options)
Best F2P weapon for her is Sacrificial Bow… hands down… her elemental skill does SO MUCH damage that you should do it twice when there’s vaporize involve… and also FREE CONS 1 TRIAL ehehe
I dont have Recurve Bow, but i do have Sharpshooter Oath max leveled from the early days.. (i used to run main dps Fischl, i didnt have Rust - and also Sacrificial weapons - until a year of playing) Will it still be good weapon choice for her..?
I'm using elegy it looks cool on her and I'm using 4pcs emblem I have 38k hp cuz my build is Hp,Atk,Hp,HydroD, Hp she's doing great! 53crit rate 128crit damage sadly.
helpppp so should i run recurve or elegy on her? i’m not planning to run her in a vape comp (cuz i don’t have one lol), but i’m trying to get as much dps out of her as possible and maybe run her with ayaka
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recurve showin up the big boys yessir
(favonius is stronger, the artifact difference added more CD to recurve that skewed results)
yyas
i frickin fed them back in 1.2 and now i don't have them NOOOO
@@zakynokigeki you can get one from a dude on the ritou docks
Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it:
With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP%
However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP%
As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless).
@@davidlg571 this. Recurve Bow is a good choice only if you do not have Fav Bow.
Yelan being this F2P friendly really shows that Genshin is going the right direction with 5 stars! Not only do you not need any constellations she can also work with 3/4/5 star weapons that are “easy” to obtain. I’m glad we are getting these characters! She is also fun to play so that’s a bonus.
Welp she isn't friendly to me, She made me lose my guaranteed ayato while I was building pity
@@ツツ-w8p well don't wish if u don't want the 5 star, only pull if u want the 5 star or you're fine getting the 5 star
Yup, I'm very satisfied with my pulls for her. Considering my artifacts are a bit copium for now she still does good damage and her gameplay loop is so good
@@tyrantg1820 ok tho I'm still kinda mad I lost my pity twice tho :^
@@ツツ-w8p i get it, i also did the same thing on ayato banner when i was building pity for ayaka
For everybody who's sad to not have an access to Recurve bow - Favonius Bow should be mathematically superior simply because it gives more effective stats. Recurve bow dealing more dmg for Xlice here is just due to artifact variance
fav bow is supposed to be stronger!
I....gave my recurve bows away to level up my other bows.
@@sakiclips6984 i feel you
@@sakiclips6984 you can get one from a inazuma soldier in ritou
@@AlQmist which one? I think i already got it since ive gone past Inuzuma alreadu
This is the most detailed review and analysis anyone can hope for to achieve. It has a lot of hard work behind from what I see. Earned a like thank you for all your effort.
Elegy Yelan Xingqiu Hutao team is quite insane, might not have done the most damage in the video, but for vape, Elegy probably wins her "BiS"
I thought she was gon be yet another fomo unit with tons of potentials locked behind a pay wall, quite pleasantly surprised that even 3* work well for her
yelan actually makes me a little happy I got elegy instead of homa on the hutao rerun. double hydro with XQ is cracked
for Vape teams, Elegy wins out. It's about 20-24% damage boost for Hutao/Yoimiya, plus additional 7%+ damage on Xingqiu (worst case, assuming he doens't reverse vape) and other sub. While Aqua Simulacra will only add about 20% damage to Yelan only assuming you having to swap out a HP artifact to ER to keep her at 200% ER rate.
Her potential is indeed locked behind a paywall. Xingqiu just kinda saved her
@@SadBoy-pr6zq hu tao is the only pyro character who needs that much hydro applications, she's good in other vape teams, so how is her potential lock in constellations? hu tao+xingqiu+yelan is also a solid team comp, it can even outdamage double geo hu tao in some scenarios. she has high damage potential even with a 3* or 4* bow, so i don't think she's locked behind paywall.
Yeah I think he should have emphasized the buff that elegy provides the entire team. She is almost with her out a doubt going to be used on reaction heavy teams. The team wide mastery and attack buff is huge
Yelan is a really fun character to use and I haven't had that much fun playing with a character since Hu Tao was released. I really like how open they made her to being able to used a variety of weapon options. I'm currently using the Polar Star on her, and I dont know if I should just use my Elegy bow instead. Currently running her in a Zhongli/Raiden/Sara and Kazuha/Raiden/Yoimiya comp.
Definitely go for Elegy. Polar Star passive is severely wasted on her imo, you should instead give Polar Star to Yoimiya
Funny how the Recurve Bow still hugely out does other 5 star bows 😂
Was about to say R5 Recurve is only outclassed by bis lmao.
Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it:
With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP%
However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP%
As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless).
@@davidlg571 There is one caveat to that: you can run HP% sands and Recurve bow if you have C1
@@musix3197 R5 Recurve and R1 Recurve are the same thing lol. For showcasing damage sure, but for real situation you need sufficient ER (unless you run Xingqiu, then sure go full dps).
@@ukantach2273 Yea I'm stupid I just realize refining a weapon enhances its effects, not the stats lmao. Yea Favo bow is still better for a real team.
I really like this as a separate video. I'm always interested to see the weapon comparisons, but it felt like it interrupted the flow of the main guide before. Good idea breaking it down like this!
Honestly I'll probably end up using Fading Twilight since I've already leveled it to 90, but the fact that Recurve Bow is competitive in this line up is strange and refreshing. I might level that one up also depending on how my artifact farming goes. If I get a really good ER timepiece, I go for Recurve, if I get a really good HP% timepiece, I go for Fading? Good thing I kept an R5 version of Recurve around just in case.
Finally some usage for my elegy I got from the homa banner
For me its:
Finally some usage for my SECOND elegy I got from the Homa banner
@@Arguing101 for me it’s:
Finally some usage for my Fourth Elegy that I got from the Homa banner.
I got all of them from the same banner to get Two Homas… I hate the weapon banner.
Goddamn I know it's useful now, but somehow I still am so salty about losing that 50/50. Didn't even get hutao's c1 either. Worst pulling session I ever had since launch
@@mariedeirosong fuck that banner it made me quit for 2 years
THIS is the way to do a weapon showcase! I like this direction a lot and am happy you did it like this :) Makes the guide more useful
Man I thought I had a recurve bow, but I guess I threw them all away. I thought it was the gacha one since they look so similar... I hope we have a chance to get more of these soon, like we did with Liyue weapons, or whenever we get more 4*s we get one that has Hp% and good perks... I wish we could just buy these weapons though for Mora.
if u go to the docks at ritou and talk to a guy called Nakano he will give u recurve bow for free
@@kawaii_plxyz5872 omg TYSM!!
I think Favonius Warbow is better anyway. I have an R5 Recurve Bow but I would rather use my R5 Favonius Warbow.
Although damage wise recurve bow is superior I'd argue that it's negligible considering how much uptime you can get with Favonius Warbow especially at R5.
(Unless you have godly er rolls or running an er sands)
I stopped trashing weapons a while back i have a hard time spending my stone faster than i get them.
I have an R5 Recurve Bow in stock and I feel like the king. Always make it a point to keep 6 of each weapon (even 3 Star weapons) in your inventory. It might come in handy one day. 😅 May be even The Bell will serve a purpose one day.
This is what I’ve always done, I just refine all the 3 stars and lock them so I can use the rest for exp
@@xavigoeswild6827 😉👍🏽
Don't get fooled by the Recurve bow, I'm going to explain it:
With Yelan, you need a source of ER, so if you choose to use the Recurve bow you'll need 100% an ER sands. What are the final stats?: 51.8 ER and 46.9 HP%
However if you choose to use HP sands and Favonius Warbow you'll get: 61.3 ER and 46.6 HP%
As you can see, this second choice is obviously better since you get the same HP and more ER. Besides, you benefit from Favonius' passive, which gives more energy to the team (recurve bow passive is useless).
Really good video though, genshin content creators use to just say what technically are the best weapons for a character instead of trying them and showing the damage.
Uhh no. The hp % is what made recurve bow deal more dmg than favonius. Favonius provides nothing for damage whatsoever. She scales purely on hp and not any source of atk. She really only needs 140% ER which can be obtained through sub stats.
@@ParafrostV 140% ER? Check your calculations bro
I personally find the passive for the recurve bow very helpful, I don’t have any high levelled shielders or healers so being able to regenerate quite a bit especially against groups of enemies is really handy.
@@ParafrostV 140% is really low for Yelan, You'd basically be forced to run double hydro and Raiden for that to be viable
@@xavigoeswild6827 If she was a carry DPS yes, but being off-filed most of the time and scaling with HP (which makes her a little tanky) makes this passive useless.
Me realizing I've fed all my recurve bows and don't have chests in Mondstadt anymore:
Dang
I believe I got mine from an npc on a dock in inazuma.
I also remember getting one from Nakano, but I also fed it up, oh well
yall have recurve?? ion even have mine in my inventory,, either fed it bfr accidentally when i was new orr i just never got one. Tho I'm not 100% in mondstadt, so maybe i can get it. Idk.
Thanks for this comparison man. It's detailed and accurate like always.
Great video, liked when you made this at the start of your yt channel, very grateful you did one for Yelan, as shes a great character and a very peculiar case in terms of weapon choices.
Your guide videos are just the best!
Early gang! thanks for the upload king! 10/10
Personally, I'm using the sharpshooter's oath on her currently. yyas it's a 3 star bow but does enough dmg so far :), currently level 70. I would use er on her buut im still working on her build so we'll see :"), the new f2p bow also looks rlly cool design wise and seems like a great option for yelan!
Also edit = I wont be pulling for Aquq Simulacra because as a f2p it is simply not worth taking the risk this time, also am saving for kazuha even if i have a 50/50 and im building pity on xiao's banner. I dont mind getting xiao cuz i have right artifacts prepared for him anyway, and if i lose I'll either go on kazuha's or save till hu tao's (even if its monthhhhhs away), becuz yelan + ei + hu tao combo is nice. thooo, goodluck to those pulling for aqua simulacra and yelan!
Probably the best F2P weapon banner though, both weapons either have crit rate/crit damage stat and gives universal damage increase. You can basically use both weapons on anyone unconditionally.
@@bursky09 right, but i feel like focusing on getting characters more. I dont mind building pity on it, of course, but its jjst not possible for me since im pretty broke aswell after getting yelan. Though, yes, it's an amazing weapon banner and it's pretty f2p friendly.
Thanks a lot bro i was actually using lvl.90 sharpshooter oath but starting to have second thoughts about it but now i know other players also use it thanks
🌸😹It would be sixteen lovely defined possibilities by which to wield their new wonder of Genshin.😹🌸
I was just waiting for your video guide, Ty MR PP
Lost my 50/50 on Elegy when wishing for Homa. Lost my 50/50 wishing for Venti this 2.6 but this guaranteed Yelan and now she's rocking that Elegy. With that plus Xingqiu, Zhongli, & R5 Dragon's Bane... my Hu Tao is now breezing through the spiral abyss with ease. Now my current pity in the weapon banner is 57 and will be saving that for Homa in the future.
Yes, Elegy may not be the best for her personal damage but it is just too good on her and it makes her a top tier support/sub dps. 👍
banger vid as always mr xlice
Thank you for making this comparison! 🥰
Sharpshooters oath is actually way better than blackcliff since it’s passive will actually work with breakthrough barb shots while blackcliff’s is useless, it offers higher crit dmg, and it’s apparently cheaper to get to 90.
I was surprised Sharpshoother's oath didnt show up. It was the one I was considering,,,,
Sharpahooter's oath only gives 47 ish CD or something, that's like 2/3 the value Slingshot provides, the BRB damage also is already buffed by Slingshot as with Yelan you're already fighting close range to begin with, no need to aim for weak points either.
@@MuhammadKharismawan Yeah, but that’s why I’m not comparing oath to slingshot, I’m comparing it directly to blackcliff since, as a 4*, it’s a complete downgrade.
Good thing I always keep 1 copy of every 3stars weapon at R5. Never know when they can be viable so better to have all of them ready at r5
me too I have all 3-star weapons at R5, I just like collecting them. I wish I can get more Dark Iron Sword so I can R5 it.
I'm still missing recurve. I thought i had one, but ig not. Also haven't gotten dark iron yet i don't think... maybe I'll go ahead and get it before i fuck up
I think your results on Recurve Bow are gonna be quite a bit higher than the average player here tbh. Like it doing that much more damage than crit weapons basically assumes you have godly amounts of crit on your artifacts instead which most people simply won't have. I did a lot of calcs based on the artifacts I had available myself and for me Slingshot (and Skyward Harp though I obv wouldn't use it) outperform it in terms of raw dps simply because I don't have perfect crit rolls on artifacts but I do have some HP% rolls here and there instead
But anyway Favonius Warbow is probably the go-to for most people if you have the appropriate artifacts to match it since it also has a useful passive on top of all its ER
Yea this is what is strange to me in this video. In previous videos he has called out that crit weapons make it much easier to build and give greater options when it comes to choosing artifacts based on their main stat. This one is just like 'avoid crit weapons and just get that extra 25% crit rate from artis' like its no big deal haha. Actually I would say his stat column doesn't make any sense to me. How does Viridescent score 34k less dmg per rotation than favonious warbow when that build got more crit rate, crit dmg, ER, and only 600 less HP? What is this generic DMG Bonus% column? What is that composed of? Something there doesn't feel right at all. Its the first time I've watched one of his videos and just felt its wrong.
@@Raykahn you missed a few things. The reason why VH’s damage is low is because of the Hydro damage bonus. He ran an HP goblet with VH to match the crit ratios and ER ratios to match the Emblem passive, while also making sure his Yelan had enough HP to compete - which was the baseline 25k hp. With Favonius providing so much ER, he could easily run a hydro goblet with an HP sands, and that’s why Favonius has more damage. Hope I answered your questions.
@L Lawliet No I got that, but wouldn't he get more dmg anyways running a hydro goblet? Why are we trying to equalize life totals for this comparison?
The goal of the test is to show potential damage output with various weapons, shouldn't he always be running the most ideal setup (within reason) to maximize damage? Maybe the math works in favor of it, but offhand I would think there is zero reason to ever forego a hydro goblet for any other mainstat goblet unless the character already has huge built in elemental bonus. That to me makes this test not a true comparison. Too many variables are changing between the tests for it to be a valid.
I am willing to be wrong. If running the extra hp on the goblet actual out damages the hydro bonus then I completely get it. If it doesn't though, and it was just done to say 'see all is equal!' then this test is junk.
@@Raykahn I understand what you're trying to say.
I could be wrong but perhaps he did test the numbers with a hydro goblet but found the damage to be lower than when running an HP goblet? I cant say for sure until I test it myself, but it is possible.
@@godhimself7708 At the end of the day you're going to want HP%, ER and crit. Whichever you have on your weapon you can neglect on your artifacts whilst focusing on the other two. So regardless of which of these weapons you're using they should mathematically be just as viable with the complementary artifact stats. But yeah you should definitely run a hydro goblet on any weapon, that's a stat you can't get from anywhere else, the others can all be gotten via artifact substats or weapon. The reason Favonius is generally preferred as the f2p option is because it also has a nice passive on top of all the ER, but it makes no sense for Recurve Bow to perform that well on this list because its 46.9% HP is the same thing as the 31.2% crit rate from Slingshot or the 61.3% ER from Fav in terms of artifact substat roll value. Weapon substats are scaled in the same way artifact rolls are after all
Truly blessed having Xlice guide in Genshin community. 🙏
A stranger in discord doubting me for posting this guide as reference.
Feels bad for him not testing the damage number himself yet doubting without checking the guide first. But I will always stand my ground with thrusting Xlice. 🙏
For the showcases, you should have probably used another character that does physical damage on normal attack to see yelan’s damage better. But whatever it is visible.
He prob put Mona there to get enough energy for quick burst recharge lol
Ik but he could have normal attack with raiden
Just got Yelan,video timing couldn't be any better. ^_^
a very good comparison, thank you
This is a really good comparison. Kudos to Xlice!! Love it!
Not pulling for the weapon since I have a R3 Elegy.
Loving the Hutao + XInqui + Yelan + Zhongli team.
It might be a small detail but I absolutely LOVE the fact that Mr Xlice takes into account that not everyone might have their weapons at LVL 90 and made LVL 80 weapon showcases🔥🔥. This is extremely well done and very helpful. Thank you Mr Xlice🙏🙏🙏👍
here is another reason to use slingshot, the substat which is 60% dmg increase can be trigger with yelan breakthrough damage, not a huge deal but for me it help a lot doing open world fight
You can get a free recurve bow from a dude next to the teleport waypoint in the dock at ritou in inazuma, it's the one that's farthest from land
This was super helpful. I recently ended up pulling Elegy instead of Cyno's signature polearm so I've been trying to decide whether to give Elegy to Yelan or replace Skyward on Venti with it and give Skyward to Yoimiya/Yelan.
But with this video and a different Venti comparison video, I think imma keep Skyward on Venti and give Elegy to Yelan.
thx vm for the run down on yelan, even though i dont believe in pulling cons for characters i will see if i can just get lucky.
I am actually so glad that i am able to hit 8k on her q (lv.9) with recurve and as a f2p having 60/150 ratio with 35k hp
I am proud
Yeah, but how your ER?
@@zaka9862 around 180 i am using er sands
@@loly42069 wow, alright and what set? Emblem? Or mixed?
@@zaka9862 emblem
Thats why I have around 180 ER
I was crying for my hp rolled pieces on emblem
But now i am so glad!!
@@loly42069 nice, I was thinking of doing 2 HoD 2 Noblesse since I have the pieces and it comes out to a 35% dmg increase but I might farm emblem instead since it can go higher though. Well, time to do that for the next 2 weeks lol
I never really thought that I already fully built yelan without grinding for her. 68:210 ratio with Fading twighlight, she definitely is the best character that I have in my current team next to ayaya.
My Emblem pieces kept rolling into HP, so I'd been using Emblem on Zhongli as copium. So when I got Yelan, I just ended up moving all those artifacts to her
So you’re saying you get 258cv from artifacts? You have four 43cv pieces plus a 20cv circlet?
@@justjeffyt If the stats are exactly 68:210, then that would imply 247.6CV from artifacts, including circlet main stat, so without that main stat (assuming it's a crit main stat) that would come out to 185.4CV from substats
@@darkdude1996ify My mistake, I didn’t include the base crit rate. So you’re saying you get 185.4cv from artifacts? You have four 41cv pieces plus a 21.4cv circlet?
@@justjeffyt Realistically speaking, a 25-30CV circlet substat is fairly respectable for endgame, so assuming 25.4 would net an average 40CV. If it's a 2p/2p build, I'd say that's relatively high, but still fairly normal for endgame, especially if you consider that feathers and flowers tend to roll relatively well. Personally my Ayato ended up with similar stats after throwing leftover artifacts on him (though that's with Noblesse/Shimenawa, so although it works for now, it's kinda copium)
wait. all in all, the rotation damage difference only 50k at max. that is in a sense, does not make extra rotation difference in abyss. it would save like 10-20 seconds at max in abyss if shit happens. but that doesnt justify the primogems to chase for a specific weapon
Usefully video ty, as of which bow I'm gonna be using will be the Aqua since i was blessed of getting both Yelan and Aqua in 15 pulls
Yelan is such an unbelievable unit. Immediately when I got her I created the national team with her (never leveled xing qiu since I don’t have any 5* pyro unit lmao) and I destroyed the abyss for the first time with 36*. Previously I always got 32-33*. Of course I have c2 raiden and c6 xiangling and c5 bennet (im not gonna c6 lel) and my yelan is a measly level 80 with level 70 weapon (aqua) and talents at 6/7/8. Imagine what she can do if I optimize her as well as my xiangling completely. Everyone who can and is thinking about should definitely pull for her as she is as revolutionary as raiden and kazuha.
This is sooo sooo good Ty so much!!!!!!!!!!
I have a recurve on my amber, I think it was the original given during the tutorial that I never took off
Hi Xlice (Yes it is Mari) Thanks for the bow showcase
after using sac bow it really makes me want to pull for c1. Using the e twice is fun
I finally found a use for Elegy. Let’s go
wow im very early, thank you for the video mr pp
Sem
moouns moon and recurve bow are amazing
Thx for this very explicite content.
Oh my... all those bows looking from far I thought they are man's swimming white army... lol
i think its really important to note that people should do their own testing based on their artifacts/weapons available. for what i have, funny enough the stringless is better than all of the other bows. dont ask me to explain why, math and i arent really great friends. only the aqua would be better for me without taking vaporize into account. the weapons are really close and everyone can pick what they prefer, but ive also seen other videos/charts where the numbers are a bit different so i think if someone really cares about min/maxing based on available options then its really worth it to test a bit and not just use charts. its nice to see 3* being really good options for once though. personally im super happy one of my r5 stringless found a purpose.
Honestly elegy is the imo the best in slot for her ( in a vaporise team comp )because her own damage is not the most important thing and that em and attack buff is insane. This is what i run with my yoimiya and she went from around 50 k no vape to around 125 k vaporise
Apart from her signature weapon, R3+ favonius warbow is best for her with 4 piece emblem set.
Wb r5 sacrificial bow on c0 yelan? Might be the BiS for her
I’m going a pure HP build for her obviously and aiming for minimum 50k health hopefully 60k+ with perfect sub stats.
And thats why I have at least one R5 3★ weapon of every type
I am going to give my Yelan the Elegy. The passive would be so beneficial for Hu Tao/Funerational. Plus, the massive ER is nice, given my other ER bows are being used atm.
i dont know why he didnt test fading twilight r5 since every will get the refinements with the event, unless he recorded this on the first day of the patch
Great video thanks
Great video.
I have been using the stringless, elegy, favonious and the new bow.
And after a couple of experiments I realized that she has some problems related It with ER (even with C1).
If she is going to fight agains 1 enemy (like a boos), Her ER must be close to 200% (or even more without C1).
On another hand, If the field has a lot of enemies, the ER could be lower because she will receive others energy particles from the enemy.
My guess is the free bow and elegy and prf as the top 3
Close enough
Looks like recurve bow is actually going to be useful on her.
Just love Yelan with elegy, hydro bow sub dps that can use elegy without cringe unnecessary tryhard is huge. Yelan and Xingqiu together can deal 18k + 12k off field dps (both full er and deald this much, can be bettrr by 5-10k), on top of my diluc 40k-60k with painslasher, and bennett. My other team is either ayato ec or eula raiden or moyaka. I have most hydro characters except childe and kokomi, my account feels less boring since the ones i have works very well in any team i want, both sides of the abyss. NA Itto with yelan xingqiu gorou can delete PMA with ease too. Kinda hope to get kokomi, i lost 50:50 TWICE on her and got c2 Qiqi. I want to try ayato yelan xingqiu kokomi so bad haha.
I use Thundering Pulse because it looks so good on her haha
lost my 5th 50/50 today in a row i was ready to watch the guide so i pulled my last wish for the five star to end up getting c2 jean im still in pain since it happened only 10minutes ago
Sooo if someone even sees this, i dont understand why skyward harp would be so low, compared to lets say, favonius. it adds so much CV, only downside is you get like 15% extra dmg bonus from emblem set with fav, but thats it?? why is the damage bonus set so low on harp when the only thing that changes is that? You can still perfectly run HP Hydro Crit so I dont understand?
I think favonius weapons are slept on tbh.
I have both an r5 favonius and a r5 sacrificial bow but sadly those are already being used by Gorou and Diona so I guess I'll have to Raise the fading twilight for Yelan
Hey Xlice, thanks for the video! Just one thing tho, I think that in an ideal rotation wouldn't you include a Charged Att for Yelan's Barb Shot passive before and after her elemental skill? I think the damage for these charged attacks is non-negligible especially if you hit multiple targets with the aoe and weapons like Slingshot(passive) or Sac bow(a bonus skill+CA) would benefit these charged attacks. It might change some of these results/conclusions.
in actual use cases, i've been more punished trying to incorporate a CA Barb Shot after an E Skill usage
since it's RNG, i've been conditioned to not use it at all.
i find that favonius bow has the most consistent and positively feedbacking weapon to use for budget players in practice
I don't get it how is crit based weapon less effective by 15% than non crit based ones?
If example, I got my yelan up to 70/170 CR CD due to using Slingshot, and are already managing 189 ER from substats alone with CD, Hydro and HP main stats, will picking Favonius or Recurve improve my damage or no?
I got a qiqiiiiii.... I got a qiqiiiiiiiii
Not even keqing.....
nice thx!
i didnt know i needed this
the fact that fading twilight is so strong
I'll just use Recurve Bow since that's just rare to see a HP substat on a weapon.
I wish there was a HP main stat bow tho.
ngl I never realised I got 1 b4 and now since I got one from the npc, its just worth it to me.
Isn't Recurve Main stat HP? Or did you mean the 5 star not having HP main stat?
@@annachang11 Well idk I'm sure its main stat is atk then second stat is HP or something like that.
Her 5 star weapon is a bit odd but ig its just to balance it lol
WOW! I’m early. Armpit model mommy came home in my first ten pull 🥹
Watching this like I didn’t lose my 50/50 to c2 qiqi
thank you bro
Between fav and the new weapon which one is better?
fav refinement 4 and twilight refinement 5
I have a R5 Messenger on my Yelan atm, would that bow be good on her?🤔
it is 2:38AM mr pp, go to bed
Why no test for Sharpshooter's Oath?
Rotation damage doesn't necessarily equate to team comps and stuff though, right? What's better for Ayaka freeze vs HuTao Vape vs Raiden main, for example? (I don't have Aqua Simluacra, but I do have Elegy, R5 Mouun's Moon, and most all of the other 3* and 4* options)
"Your artifacts will be providing the Crit value" My artifacts are ass so no they won't 😂
thx to yelan for being a second xinqiu finally can reach 36 star abyss
Best F2P weapon for her is Sacrificial Bow… hands down… her elemental skill does SO MUCH damage that you should do it twice when there’s vaporize involve… and also FREE CONS 1 TRIAL ehehe
I would pull for her but then again I got 2 of the 4 stars constellation 6 already... Sadge not the best time to pull for her for primogems efficient
I dont have Recurve Bow, but i do have Sharpshooter Oath max leveled from the early days..
(i used to run main dps Fischl, i didnt have Rust - and also Sacrificial weapons - until a year of playing)
Will it still be good weapon choice for her..?
stringless is underrated
That feeling when you used your Recurve Bow as weapon xp...
I'm using elegy it looks cool on her and I'm using 4pcs emblem I have 38k hp cuz my build is Hp,Atk,Hp,HydroD, Hp she's doing great! 53crit rate 128crit damage sadly.
helpppp so should i run recurve or elegy on her? i’m not planning to run her in a vape comp (cuz i don’t have one lol), but i’m trying to get as much dps out of her as possible and maybe run her with ayaka
Gonna lock every weapon from now on
I just pulled Elegy, no idea what to do with it
so the question is what's better between Fading Twilight and Favonius?
Fav is better for solo hydro if you're using a hp sands
Would Amos be ok bc on my alt account I have yelan and Amos
Would polar star be an ideal choice if I don't have any of the other listed 5* bows? Or should I go for a 4* R5 ER bow..
oo early hihii 😵💫