Since I get this question a lot: To get both spells you indeed need to start a NG+. I started at Maliketh and was back at Bayle after about 2 hours. If you need a pretty solid route for your NG+ you can ride along with me in this video. th-cam.com/video/5zVv64G3mZU/w-d-xo.html. Godrick - Renalla - Makar. After Makar you do Varre's quest (you have Boilprawn Shack and Bellum Church waypoints at this point) to kill Mohg and after that you ride from Stormhill Shack over Rotview Balcony to Impassable Greatbride to kill Radahn - done, ready to enter DLC again.
Fat Inquisitor was the GOAT in that Invasion. He just interrupted every attempt to kill you, and demanded the Host's attention. Generally it seems the Hornsent are an Invader's best friend.
If I had to recommend another game with great dragon bosses, it would be Monster Hunter. It is kind of hard to get into without a bit of help, but the community it more than willing to help if you were to try
I feel like this boss needed torrent to make it better, it’s similar to Elden Beast where it’s constantly moving and you’re always playing catch-up with it. I love the boss and the visuals but if we’re fighting it without torrent it needs the Midir mechanic where it has large punish windows if you successfully dodge their attacks, this boss is just constantly moving and attacking with very little punish windows
@@crashdummyfreed9088 hell no, he always blinks towards you from across the map in less than a second, Torrent would just get destroyed and it's not necessary.
They really did it right with these🙂even though Bayle's Tyranny kind of seems bugged hitting just 1 with high damage, but maybe that is on purpose (and makes you kind of vulnerable to the other 2 enemies).
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 and rock dragon heart form give you 10% of damage negation passively, plus great dragon shield talisman you have a very decent defense for be totally naked. blue charm talisman transform dragon maw and claw in a nuclear weapon, even grayroll roar begun pretty decent
6:42 The dragon hunters who usurped the transcendent power of the ancient tyrant Now, not only do we burn and incinerate those who have become our real enemies, we even extinguish their souls with mighty lightning⚡️🔥🐲
hello my friend i know a secret combo chuggin technic i want to share with ya - if you crouch and you want to drink two different flasks (red+blue) in a row fast, crouching skips animation of changin bottles. enjoy, nobody knows bout that except for you and me now - saves you 1.5 seconds in time i assume. i posted it on Chase vids but he never read it
Small fun fact: the Death Knight set, each of its armor pieces, actually buffs up dragon cult incantations (think 2% per piece). So more fun with lighting builds, they be getting stuff
dragon cult are the lightning incantations while dragon communions are these dragon incantations therefor the death knight set will not buff this dragon incantations
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 absolutely, it was a bummer to not find anything new with magma. I wonder if the new physicks tear that puts oil on people works well with magma or if it's actually ruined by it (maybe the oil procs every few seconds and the magma damage ticks would "waste" the oil effect that could be used for stronger attacks).
Are the bayle incantations bugged currently? Like not dealing damage properly, or not scaling properly? I have heard rumors regarding this and as a fellow dragon communion enjoyer, would like to know if fromsoft could potentially fix these if they are issue.
@@RuiNDieM1988yea I wish they would make dragon form have like 20 flat defense or something and 50 poise . Kinda pointless to give up all your defense just to barely increase dmg of your dragon incants
@@RuiNDieM1988 "Lets make it so you deal 3% more damage on already extremelly high damage spells, all you need is to be butt naked and worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Michael Zaki explaining why getting oneshot is a good idea.
Hi again! Will you be doing any of the dragon forms for the dragon cult build? I wondering if they are worth the investment for pvp or if its going to be more a hindrance? I'm still going to do it but i'd like to be prepared, i ended up getting into the dlc late and i switched over my account from console to pc so i have to get all 5 of my pvp build again from scratch -.- (I'm not looking forward to the watchdog greatsword farm, but i love it so much)
Dying to invaders really is a skill issue moment. If you die after a red cuts through multiple hunters and fingers, you’re just getting diffed. And people still think invasions are unfair for them lmao
So the new dragons roar is has a bigger radius and has extra hitboxes but is bugged atm where the roar part of the attack can only hit ONE target. Still pretty strong to one shot ur opponents
Shame yoh didng use the dragon form that boost dragon communion spells Also I didnt know this but you can charge bayles roar for a second lightning follow up.
Both of your statements are wrong. I tested Bayle's spell and it did no difference to the damage to use dragon form. There is no second lightning follow up.
How much is the damage of Bayle's Tyranny in comparison to Greyoll's Roar in terms of % damage ? What about Bayle's Flame Lightning in comparison to Dragonclaw in % damage?
Unfortunately I think they do similarly damage and the bayle spells have less stance damage. Hopefully they buff them so they become better versions then the incantions they are meant to replace
Bayle's do a lot more damage, I don't know how much exactly. Let's say my first thought was "Bayle's does 2000 where Greyolls' would probably do 1000". So 50%?
Can you beat bosses in pve with this build? So i can use it for arena and story? Im level 174. But i cant tell. Is anything in your build from new game plus. Or is everything attenable in the first run?
You need to do a NG+ to get both Bayle's spells, otherwise everything on first run. This build is very good for PvE as well, rot bosses with Ezkyke's Decay and the other spells will do the rest. You will wreak havoc in the arena haha 🙂
Before this video I thought Bayle’s Flame Lightning would be too slow for PVP no one would be dumb enough to get hit by it or trade with it…..i stand corrected 😂
Yes but Dragon Maw does not have hyper armor and is kind of a different spell since it lunges forward, while both Bayle spells are a good saver when a squad of 3 jumps you. You also want arc anyway with the Dragon Communion Seal 🙂
hey there fellow dragon here 👋 i want to know the difference between Borealis's frost breath and the ghost flame. why would you want to use one over the other? they both frost bite no? does one do more damage?
Yes and unfortunately you have to restart the whole base game for that as well. Had do go from Maliketh to Radahn and Varre and back up the mountain to Bayle.
There is a deathblight feature in this dungeon, if you stand in the range of the statues I look at at 19:26 you get DB buildup. You can hide from them, but the enemy just stood in the open the whole time haha.
Thanks for enjoying the video. Yes and this means NG+ unfortuntely. NG+, then Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varree Quest, Mogh. 2 hours and you can be back @ Bayle.
Ngl with the new sorceries it seems like the death ones are now completely rounded out. They are dam near as versatile as the carian ones despite having much less. Can u do a gravity build with the new sorceries and aow. They should be rounded out as well.
NG+, Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varre, Radahn, Mohg, Bayle. Took about 2 hours. You can check my ng+ play along upload from last week to see my route for the base stuff.
Before the DLC I made a video for a fast NG+, so I had this char close to the end of the game. When I realized I need to do another NG+ and for both maps to get the spells, I did exactly that. Just did Godrick, Renalla, Varre's quest and Radahn real fast to get back.
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Since I get this question a lot: To get both spells you indeed need to start a NG+. I started at Maliketh and was back at Bayle after about 2 hours. If you need a pretty solid route for your NG+ you can ride along with me in this video. th-cam.com/video/5zVv64G3mZU/w-d-xo.html. Godrick - Renalla - Makar. After Makar you do Varre's quest (you have Boilprawn Shack and Bellum Church waypoints at this point) to kill Mohg and after that you ride from Stormhill Shack over Rotview Balcony to Impassable Greatbride to kill Radahn - done, ready to enter DLC again.
Which is better bayle breath or bayle claw?
@@donsalizar4037 Breath 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183
I figured as much. Thank you kindly
15:33 shout out to the worst guts cosplay yet
That ain’t Guts from Bersek. That’s Nuts from Very Angry.
@@sparklepawz1185 that is Buts from Gerserk
That free aim magma was some spicy stuff! XD love your build videos. Thank you for these.
Thanks for your nice comments 🙂
Bathe in dragon fire 🔥
CURSE YOU BAYYYLLLEEEE
I HEARBY VOW 👆
YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY 👹
Fat Inquisitor was the GOAT in that Invasion. He just interrupted every attempt to kill you, and demanded the Host's attention.
Generally it seems the Hornsent are an Invader's best friend.
Best dragon boss ever
It was so fun!! So badass yet so aggressively chicken-shaped.
Oh no. You said the thing. Get ready for midir meat riders to show up.
If I had to recommend another game with great dragon bosses, it would be Monster Hunter. It is kind of hard to get into without a bit of help, but the community it more than willing to help if you were to try
I feel like this boss needed torrent to make it better, it’s similar to Elden Beast where it’s constantly moving and you’re always playing catch-up with it. I love the boss and the visuals but if we’re fighting it without torrent it needs the Midir mechanic where it has large punish windows if you successfully dodge their attacks, this boss is just constantly moving and attacking with very little punish windows
@@crashdummyfreed9088 hell no, he always blinks towards you from across the map in less than a second, Torrent would just get destroyed and it's not necessary.
Found you a few days ago, and your crazy laugh makes everything better lol. Awesome games!
Thank you so much, glad you enjoy it 🙂
I applaud your patience, These spells are actually torture to use in invasions haha.
The new lava damage talisman has me hyped to make a magma mage build honestly
It also boosts fire damage as far as I did read, so you really have some nice options 🙂
16:47 Bale's own way to save Princess Rapunzel from the tower 😶🌫️
I hadn't seen the flame lightning yet 😅 thank you. That's so amazing
the new dragon incants are so sick, can't wait to use them!
They really did it right with these🙂even though Bayle's Tyranny kind of seems bugged hitting just 1 with high damage, but maybe that is on purpose (and makes you kind of vulnerable to the other 2 enemies).
Dragon form bayle invasion will be gorgeous
No, because it doesn't affect the damage🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 the rock heart dragon yes. The priestes heart dragon no (yes, in this game you have 2 cool droggo form)
@@nonnolento Good to know 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 and rock dragon heart form give you 10% of damage negation passively, plus great dragon shield talisman you have a very decent defense for be totally naked. blue charm talisman transform dragon maw and claw in a nuclear weapon, even grayroll roar begun pretty decent
@@nonnolentoDancer charm on dragon form is a good idea. Will use.
The multi lightning bolt spell is very cool
CURSE YOU FOR MAKING THIS
6:42
The dragon hunters who usurped the transcendent power of the ancient tyrant
Now, not only do we burn and incinerate those who have become our real enemies, we even extinguish their souls with mighty lightning⚡️🔥🐲
BAYLE!!! VILE BAYLE!!!
1:27 Also that was a sick ass snipe right there
hello my friend i know a secret combo chuggin technic i want to share with ya - if you crouch and you want to drink two different flasks (red+blue) in a row fast, crouching skips animation of changin bottles. enjoy, nobody knows bout that except for you and me now - saves you 1.5 seconds in time i assume. i posted it on Chase vids but he never read it
It’s a well Knowed tip that, people know that bro xd
@@Naim11443 never seen anyone use it except for myself, i only coop and invade. but well thats nice if ppl know that info.
I didn't know cool tip
Me either this is interesting
Small fun fact: the Death Knight set, each of its armor pieces, actually buffs up dragon cult incantations (think 2% per piece). So more fun with lighting builds, they be getting stuff
Cool, I really look forward to see how much difference it does in comparison to the Dragon Form.
dragon cult are the lightning incantations while dragon communions are these dragon incantations therefor the death knight set will not buff this dragon incantations
Ok, this man is the best magic wielder in Elden Ring.
Thank you so much, huge motivation 🙂
The new bayle spells either 1 shot or do 0 damage lol the theo’s free aim is as also nuts lol
Bayle ist mein beste drache 🐲🔥⚡️
The elevator fight was peak
Love your vids, look forward to seeing you put the finger spells to use ^w^
Yes, I will definitely do that build! Thank you for enjoying my videos 🙂
WITH A HAIL OF HARPOOOOOONNNNSSSS
Tip for when youre being pressured but need to heal and to drink blue, if you crouch you can do both at basically the same time.
So nice to find your vids!
How about Messmer's build vs Bayle's build when pvp?
Thanks a lot 🙂 I would say Bayle's is better!
Ya I've been doing 3k with Bayle's Tyranny. Pretty wild stuff.
Thank you for making this
3:20 perfect
Invading is so tough! I tried earlier today and its so many white mask bleed groups
Try not to rush things, sometimes you need to wait for the right moment and position.🙂 "get the high ground".
my man they added that magma talisman just for you! XD
Wish they would have added 1-2 more magma sorceries too 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 absolutely, it was a bummer to not find anything new with magma.
I wonder if the new physicks tear that puts oil on people works well with magma or if it's actually ruined by it (maybe the oil procs every few seconds and the magma damage ticks would "waste" the oil effect that could be used for stronger attacks).
Are the bayle incantations bugged currently? Like not dealing damage properly, or not scaling properly? I have heard rumors regarding this and as a fellow dragon communion enjoyer, would like to know if fromsoft could potentially fix these if they are issue.
The hitbox is just really small so sometimes they only get hit with the lingering magma. They just need to make the aoe a lot bigger
Yes something is definitely off, but I can't point my finger at it yet.Maybe it is the to small hitbox, I don't know.
No dragon form?
No poise so it's a bad idea in pvp
@@RuiNDieM1988yea I wish they would make dragon form have like 20 flat defense or something and 50 poise . Kinda pointless to give up all your defense just to barely increase dmg of your dragon incants
@@Buddyguy1988 yeah I never understood their balancing ideas around dragon form
@@RuiNDieM1988 "Lets make it so you deal 3% more damage on already extremelly high damage spells, all you need is to be butt naked and worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Michael Zaki explaining why getting oneshot is a good idea.
@@streptococo4735 is it only 3% also is there a diff in each form ? I notice each of them I can buff in
Hi again!
Will you be doing any of the dragon forms for the dragon cult build? I wondering if they are worth the investment for pvp or if its going to be more a hindrance? I'm still going to do it but i'd like to be prepared, i ended up getting into the dlc late and i switched over my account from console to pc so i have to get all 5 of my pvp build again from scratch -.-
(I'm not looking forward to the watchdog greatsword farm, but i love it so much)
For sure 🙂but as I have experienced enemies with the form they are very glasscannony. Will be a tilting build I guess.
@motivepigeon try a save edit program from nexus mods respect your time friend.
Which incantation would you say is better now having played around with them?
The Roar 🙂
now i want to make a dragon build lol
Dying to invaders really is a skill issue moment. If you die after a red cuts through multiple hunters and fingers, you’re just getting diffed. And people still think invasions are unfair for them lmao
So the new dragons roar is has a bigger radius and has extra hitboxes but is bugged atm where the roar part of the attack can only hit ONE target. Still pretty strong to one shot ur opponents
This pretty much sums it up perfectly!
why does it seem like it's often 1 on 3
Can you do an updated death sorcery pvp build with the death ritual spear and the new death sorceries from the dlc? Would love to see it 😊
Yes and no 🙂working on it!
Shame yoh didng use the dragon form that boost dragon communion spells
Also I didnt know this but you can charge bayles roar for a second lightning follow up.
Both of your statements are wrong. I tested Bayle's spell and it did no difference to the damage to use dragon form. There is no second lightning follow up.
How much is the damage of Bayle's Tyranny in comparison to Greyoll's Roar in terms of % damage ? What about Bayle's Flame Lightning in comparison to Dragonclaw in % damage?
Unfortunately I think they do similarly damage and the bayle spells have less stance damage. Hopefully they buff them so they become better versions then the incantions they are meant to replace
Bayle's do a lot more damage, I don't know how much exactly. Let's say my first thought was "Bayle's does 2000 where Greyolls' would probably do 1000". So 50%?
how did you get both Bayle incantations?
by getting... two hearts?
@@SergioMattarellaVevook so is it possible to get 2 hearts in one play through?
@@themindofatlas2501 not in one
Use cheat engine for PC
Ng+
Wouldn’t occult infusion work better with 53 arcane?
Maybe, I haven't thinked about it, not playing arcane to often.
Love when they're standing in lava..... Not enough lava. Casts theodorixs magma. Lmao
Haha 🙂
did talisman of the dread work for bayle's incantation? or only for the magma wyrm
Also for Bayle's if it isn't bugged.
Can you beat bosses in pve with this build? So i can use it for arena and story? Im level 174. But i cant tell. Is anything in your build from new game plus. Or is everything attenable in the first run?
You need to do a NG+ to get both Bayle's spells, otherwise everything on first run. This build is very good for PvE as well, rot bosses with Ezkyke's Decay and the other spells will do the rest. You will wreak havoc in the arena haha 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Thank you.
Does radagon icon buffs these dragon skill speed? Because the other dragon kills has no effect from the talisman.
I believe so haha 🙂if not it was a wasted slot. I didn't try it out with Bayle's tbh, will do later this day.
Before this video I thought Bayle’s Flame Lightning would be too slow for PVP no one would be dumb enough to get hit by it or trade with it…..i stand corrected 😂
Squads of 3 often have 1 thing in my mind - kill at all cost haha.
I dont get why so much ARC for that spell?
Dragon maw one shots everything and requires preposterous amount of ARC
Yes but Dragon Maw does not have hyper armor and is kind of a different spell since it lunges forward, while both Bayle spells are a good saver when a squad of 3 jumps you. You also want arc anyway with the Dragon Communion Seal 🙂
Amazing
Have you found the rock heart/Male dragon form??? Apparently it boosts dragon communion incantations when it transforms you into dragons.
Not yet 🙂next time I play the build I will use it.
hey there
fellow dragon here 👋
i want to know the difference between Borealis's frost breath and the ghost flame. why would you want to use one over the other? they both frost bite no? does one do more damage?
I haven't tested it enough yet. It probably is a weak hybrid of magic and frost. Looks cool, but Smarag's is better.
ghostflame does more damage
@@horrorcastles nice thank you. dlc is that guy
Wait can u double his heart ?
You have to enter NG+ to get 2 hearts.
is there a way to get both bayle spells in the same ng cycle or you have to go in ng+ necessarily?
Unfortunately NG+ is necessary.
You beat the Bayle twice already to get both incantations?
Yep, impossible to drop trade the heart
Yes and unfortunately you have to restart the whole base game for that as well. Had do go from Maliketh to Radahn and Varre and back up the mountain to Bayle.
Gotta love gank squads lol
19:21 How? 🤨
It is a features in this dungeon.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183
Oh christ above, a deathblight mechanic, how lovely. 😑
What physick boosts Ghostflame if any?
Magic
Did you have to go into NG+ to get both bayles spells
Yes, NG+ is indeed needed for this. Then Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varree Quest, Mogh. 2 hours and you can be back @ Bayle.
8:28 would’ve been amazing
How did you get both Bayle's incantations?
NG+ is needed for this. Then Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varree Quest, Mogh. 2 hours and you can be back @ Bayle for the second kill.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Thank you.
what happened at 19:20??
Deathblight
In this particular dungeon there are statues that inflict deathblight if you don't hide from them😉
19:21 how the hell did he die?!
There is a deathblight feature in this dungeon, if you stand in the range of the statues I look at at 19:26 you get DB buildup. You can hide from them, but the enemy just stood in the open the whole time haha.
hey man , i just wana let u know ,u creating build greatful for help me , im just join PVP and im noob ,thks for share !!
Thanks a lot 🙂 I hope you will enjoy all of the builds and PvP as much as I do!
Hi brooooo
Nice fucking vídeo 👏🏼👏🏼
How do I get Bayle's two enchantments? I need two hearts from him?
Please help me 🙏🏼
Thanks for enjoying the video. Yes and this means NG+ unfortuntely. NG+, then Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varree Quest, Mogh. 2 hours and you can be back @ Bayle.
👍
Sleep build pls 👍
imo sleep is extremely bad in the current patch, nerfed ripple weapons
and the best way to proc may just be bows, the new weapons are pretty subpar.
Ngl with the new sorceries it seems like the death ones are now completely rounded out. They are dam near as versatile as the carian ones despite having much less. Can u do a gravity build with the new sorceries and aow. They should be rounded out as well.
I absolutely agree with your statement and Gravity Sorceries are indeed rounded now, proof of it will be 30 minutes of invasions uploading today 🙂
Hello how did you get both spells?
Unfortunately it is necessary to start a NG+ to get both which is exactly what I did.
How do you have both spells already?
NG+, Godrick, Renalla, Makar, Varre, Radahn, Mohg, Bayle. Took about 2 hours. You can check my ng+ play along upload from last week to see my route for the base stuff.
How did you get both of them??
How do you think?
Before the DLC I made a video for a fast NG+, so I had this char close to the end of the game. When I realized I need to do another NG+ and for both maps to get the spells, I did exactly that. Just did Godrick, Renalla, Varre's quest and Radahn real fast to get back.