Not just wrist, a lot of power can also come from tensing your fingers at the right time to flick the racket really quickly. It's how they make drives look so fast even though their movements seem minimal, power in the fingers and the speed you can tense them is underrated.
When i see international players like Shi yuqi,victor,momota play badminton looks so easy but when i see matches like this the game looks extremely tough,i dont understand why its soo.
There are two reasons. First of all the angel you watch is brobably provided by the bwf bird eye camera, the picture becomes 2D in that angel so it is hard to see the athletes speed. The second reasn is that their shot quality is so refined that they limit their opponents' cjoice of shot, and by anticipating mentally they become more effortless.
On top of Yichen's reasons, I'd add another: I strongly believe that masters of many different crafts do make it _look_ easy when they perform, whereas they actually deliver the most difficult results to achieve.
there are several reasons, but to add to the ones the others have provided, I believe the video is sped up a bit. if you pay attention to the audience, you see people walk, drinking water etc. Normal people dont walk and drink water or move that fast. the low framing rate of the video also adds to the illusion
I you watch this video th-cam.com/video/p5Xp4SdjHUk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ShuttleAmazing, Pete Gade moved much slower, hit not as hard and did only basic shots. However, the quality of shots is at another level comparing to the young player.
@@vothanhvinh i think it boils down to experience on court. they move like so because they practiced million hours and they are more agile but does not look faster.
The main reason of professional competition looks more relax are 1: all players need to prevent injury during matches, any injury will lose chance of championship. 2: they have daily match during the 5 days competition which is huge exhaust of stamina. 3: BWF has an regulations says All player ranked 1 to 15 have to attend at least 10 BWF international competitions to secure a round 64 position. if you miss out, you will lost your priority. So all top players are almost in competition every month. Take Axelsen in Tokyo championship 2022 as an example: 22 Aug: Round of 64, 23 Aug: Round of 32, 25 Aug: Round of 16, 26 Aug: quarter-final. 27 Aug: semi-final. 28 Aug: final.
Salute for white shirt athlete, he got an ankle sprained (I guess) at 4:30. then he was no longer able to hit full smash anymore. Lost in second game, then won in third game, very impressive. His opponent may not noticed an injury or got distracted by high speed game. Otherwise, he could deploy another more advantage strategy. However, it was high quality match indeed.
That was a near sprain, but definitely not one. Or else he wouldn't have been able to maintain such a high level of play and speed to continue the match. I've experienced this several times. It's very likely he was able to realize the misstep as he was still transitioning his weight from the other leg, and he reacted in time to avoid fully pronating his right foot, which would have sprained him. If you watch it slowly, in that single motion of changing direction, he essentially took 2 steps with his right foot. He probably overstretched the ankle further than the normal comfortable range of motion, so it would have been a bit sore for a time after the misstep, but it would have gone away later on, probably.
Top 10 world ranked players play so different in tournaments, they play so effortlessly but I think it’s just because of how amazing their shot quality is.
Does anyone know what they're saying at 2:35 and 2:43 when the rally ends? I always hear players say it from local tournaments all the way to professional BWF games.
As far as I know, they are saying "Sho" or sometimes "Sey", but mainly "sho". Im quite sure it means nothing, it is just a saying that gets air out of your lungs and get you hype. Every sport has their own version of this, "Cho" and "cho-le" in table tennis, "allez" in some french tennis player, "vamos" for spanish players in both badminton and tennis. Some have meaning like allez and vamos, but I dont think "Sho" have any meaning.
Not true pros occasionally run but the reason they rarely do it is because of shot quality. Their shot quality is very good meaning they can limit where they have to move and track down where to go next
단식은 큰스윙을한다면 상대방에게 미리 알려주게 된다 손목을 많이 사용하는 이유는 스윙크기를 작게 빠르게해서 상대방을 속이기 위함이다 단식은 공 속도가 엄청나다 단식선수는 공을보고 움직이는게 아니고 본인이 넘긴 공의 거리와 상대방이 따라가면서 만들어지는 동작에서 확률적으로 준비하게된다 자세히 본다면 치는 사람과 받는 사람의 방향이 같아지는게 보일것이다 술취해서 이래저래요래 적었다 선수들이 치는 공을 보고 따라가는 사람은 없다 휘두르면 맞는거다 ㅋㅋㅋ
뉴질랜드에서 배드민턴 치는 타이거 제임스입니다. 정말 궁금해서 질문합니다. 코트 밖에서 몸이 맞으면 어떻게 되나요?? 최근 혼복 경기중 여자파트너가 아웃라인에 있다 콕이 나갈것같아서 피해서 코트 밖으로 나갔는데...코트 밖에서 몸이 터치가 되었어요 어떻게 되나요?? 득점인가요??실점인가요??
it doesnt matter how many times people say 'wrist', the wrist is never used in badminton. the snapping action is from pronation or supination, which is an action of the forehand. the wrist is slightly cocked and does not move during this action. again, there is no movement of the wrist that generates power in badminton. zero. great match. thanks for sharing
I slightly disagree, as a player that mostly uses net play, I always use my wrist especially if the shuttle is already a bit low. I also use my wrist if I get tricked a bit when the shuttle moves to the back, if you don't use your wrist it will most likely be a high clear but that would put you at a disadvantage, by using the wrist you can lower its trajectory within the net in order to have better time collecting yourself. Low backhand shots uses wrists and cross net play as well as cross in but in a normal drives and normal defenses, your statement would be correct.
Looking at just the arm, the wrist flexion contribution ~30% (and that is without the wrist flexing fully down like you see in beginners) and the shoulder contribute ~50% to the racket speed at point of contact for overhead shots. Pronation only contribute about 10%. The forearm looks like it is rotating, but it doesn't rotate much relative to the upper arm. It is actually the shoulder rotation which rotates the whole arm. Pronation is for control rather than power. sources: th-cam.com/video/1UiHW_P-y_8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/de1h1A6p4fE/w-d-xo.html
i want to play in this court but unfortunatily there is not a single indoor court in my area there is two but not for playing purpose just for acadmic purpose
_If they meet the top 5 players in the world rankings, they are unlikely to be given a chance to play like this because their movements will be locked_
They are good. But still lack observation haki. Thats why they had to *run* 80-90% of their shot. Want to see real observation haki? Go watch lin dan. Im not a fan of him, but i cant deny his movement, very fluid as hell.
Kalau ini msh amatiran,liat aja kakinya,bola msh blm Di pukul Tapi Dia udh gerak duluan,kalau gerak nya searah sm bola sih gpp tapi kalau tipuan dari musuh pasti lgsng susah buat ngembaliinnya
Well trust me... They may look good... But they are not in world top 10 ranking level... World player dont run... Their feet are floating on the court 😁 But... They have talent nevertheless...
Not just wrist, a lot of power can also come from tensing your fingers at the right time to flick the racket really quickly. It's how they make drives look so fast even though their movements seem minimal, power in the fingers and the speed you can tense them is underrated.
power of whole body passing to fingers
4:34 Love seeing people play the tight net shots for a change.
I notice a lot of people these days play loose at the net.
When i see international players like Shi yuqi,victor,momota play badminton looks so easy but when i see matches like this the game looks extremely tough,i dont understand why its soo.
There are two reasons. First of all the angel you watch is brobably provided by the bwf bird eye camera, the picture becomes 2D in that angel so it is hard to see the athletes speed. The second reasn is that their shot quality is so refined that they limit their opponents' cjoice of shot, and by anticipating mentally they become more effortless.
On top of Yichen's reasons, I'd add another: I strongly believe that masters of many different crafts do make it _look_ easy when they perform, whereas they actually deliver the most difficult results to achieve.
there are several reasons, but to add to the ones the others have provided, I believe the video is sped up a bit. if you pay attention to the audience, you see people walk, drinking water etc. Normal people dont walk and drink water or move that fast. the low framing rate of the video also adds to the illusion
I you watch this video th-cam.com/video/p5Xp4SdjHUk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ShuttleAmazing, Pete Gade moved much slower, hit not as hard and did only basic shots. However, the quality of shots is at another level comparing to the young player.
@@vothanhvinh i think it boils down to experience on court. they move like so because they practiced million hours and they are more agile but does not look faster.
backhand smashes faster than my forehand smash... it's just jot fair! Great players and thanks for sharing the match!
相手のいいショットに対して賞賛しながらプレーしてるところに人柄の良さが滲み出てる
진짜 세계랭커들은 얼마나 잘하는거야
The main reason of professional competition looks more relax are
1: all players need to prevent injury during matches, any injury will lose chance of championship.
2: they have daily match during the 5 days competition which is huge exhaust of stamina.
3: BWF has an regulations says All player ranked 1 to 15 have to attend at least 10 BWF international competitions to secure a round 64 position. if you miss out, you will lost your priority. So all top players are almost in competition every month.
Take Axelsen in Tokyo championship 2022 as an example:
22 Aug: Round of 64,
23 Aug: Round of 32,
25 Aug: Round of 16,
26 Aug: quarter-final.
27 Aug: semi-final.
28 Aug: final.
I feel tired after watch this game
Those who play badminton know how tiring this is
My thigh sore by just watching them
i nearly puke just by watching
Salute for white shirt athlete, he got an ankle sprained (I guess) at 4:30.
then he was no longer able to hit full smash anymore.
Lost in second game, then won in third game, very impressive.
His opponent may not noticed an injury or got distracted by high speed game.
Otherwise, he could deploy another more advantage strategy.
However, it was high quality match indeed.
Is he wearing Addidas, that will explain it
That was a near sprain, but definitely not one. Or else he wouldn't have been able to maintain such a high level of play and speed to continue the match. I've experienced this several times. It's very likely he was able to realize the misstep as he was still transitioning his weight from the other leg, and he reacted in time to avoid fully pronating his right foot, which would have sprained him. If you watch it slowly, in that single motion of changing direction, he essentially took 2 steps with his right foot. He probably overstretched the ankle further than the normal comfortable range of motion, so it would have been a bit sore for a time after the misstep, but it would have gone away later on, probably.
Top 10 world ranked players play so different in tournaments, they play so effortlessly but I think it’s just because of how amazing their shot quality is.
Does anyone know what they're saying at 2:35 and 2:43 when the rally ends? I always hear players say it from local tournaments all the way to professional BWF games.
blue man said "great"
As far as I know, they are saying "Sho" or sometimes "Sey", but mainly "sho". Im quite sure it means nothing, it is just a saying that gets air out of your lungs and get you hype. Every sport has their own version of this, "Cho" and "cho-le" in table tennis, "allez" in some french tennis player, "vamos" for spanish players in both badminton and tennis. Some have meaning like allez and vamos, but I dont think "Sho" have any meaning.
Pros don't run, they move effortlessly in footworks.
Yeah agreed, but is kinda high level game too.
Not true pros occasionally run but the reason they rarely do it is because of shot quality. Their shot quality is very good meaning they can limit where they have to move and track down where to go next
@@tts6750 interesting explanation, I'm sure you observe this sport well.
@ what a level of game mastery.
pros are better at reading their opponent's next move, that's why they don't move as much
영상 잘봤습니다~~~~~
이런 영상 너무 좋아여 앞으로도 많이 부탁드려요~~ ㅎㅎ
단식은 큰스윙을한다면 상대방에게 미리 알려주게 된다
손목을 많이 사용하는 이유는 스윙크기를 작게 빠르게해서 상대방을 속이기 위함이다
단식은 공 속도가 엄청나다
단식선수는 공을보고 움직이는게 아니고
본인이 넘긴 공의 거리와 상대방이 따라가면서 만들어지는 동작에서 확률적으로 준비하게된다
자세히 본다면 치는 사람과 받는 사람의 방향이 같아지는게 보일것이다
술취해서 이래저래요래 적었다
선수들이 치는 공을 보고 따라가는 사람은 없다
휘두르면 맞는거다 ㅋㅋㅋ
현역 중학교 선수입니다.. 저희도 상대가 미리 칠것 같은곳을 반 예측하여 가는데 코치님께서 항상 하시는말씀이 공을 보고 움직여라 입니다 단식이든 복식이든 공을 보고 그에 맞는 플레이를 하는것이 배드민턴의 묘미라고 배웠습니다 이 댓은 틀린거 같네요..
@@허명범-w8e그냥 둘다 맞는 말이고 생각의 차이인데 틀렸다니... 꼰대스러운 발상이네요. 이기기 위해서는 가능한 모든 방법을 동원해야하고 예측도 그중의 하나임. 그래서 상대 플레이 영상을 보고 분석도 하는건데 예측이 1도 필요 없으면 경기분석 같은걸 왜함?
뉴질랜드에서 배드민턴 치는 타이거 제임스입니다.
정말 궁금해서 질문합니다.
코트 밖에서 몸이 맞으면 어떻게 되나요??
최근 혼복 경기중 여자파트너가 아웃라인에 있다 콕이 나갈것같아서 피해서 코트 밖으로 나갔는데...코트 밖에서 몸이 터치가 되었어요 어떻게 되나요?? 득점인가요??실점인가요??
몸에 맞은 팀이 한 점을 잃는 것이죠. Your team lose one point.
터치하면 실점이죵
코트 밖에서 라켓에 맞으면 실점이잖아요. 몸이나 라켓이나 마찬가지라고 생각하면 될듯요
당연 실점이죠...
단식은 점수관리하는거 보는 재민데 아우 영상 옮겨올때 점수좀 넣어주면 얼마나 좋아
ㅇㅈ
ㅇㅈㅇㅈ
This guys are insane!!
4:35 なんか手首すごいことなってる
If I was not wrong. I think that the yellow shirt guy is koki watanabe
這兩個人很有趣，佔優勢之後都打不死對方，反而被對方得分
So fast, pure raw strenght.
it doesnt matter how many times people say 'wrist', the wrist is never used in badminton. the snapping action is from pronation or supination, which is an action of the forehand. the wrist is slightly cocked and does not move during this action. again, there is no movement of the wrist that generates power in badminton. zero. great match. thanks for sharing
Yes! You are right this is a myth of using the wrist
I slightly disagree, as a player that mostly uses net play, I always use my wrist especially if the shuttle is already a bit low. I also use my wrist if I get tricked a bit when the shuttle moves to the back, if you don't use your wrist it will most likely be a high clear but that would put you at a disadvantage, by using the wrist you can lower its trajectory within the net in order to have better time collecting yourself. Low backhand shots uses wrists and cross net play as well as cross in but in a normal drives and normal defenses, your statement would be correct.
This is just based on my experience playing the sport and I mean nothing but respect because your statement is right in everyway.
It is used, atleast in the net.
Looking at just the arm, the wrist flexion contribution ~30% (and that is without the wrist flexing fully down like you see in beginners) and the shoulder contribute ~50% to the racket speed at point of contact for overhead shots. Pronation only contribute about 10%. The forearm looks like it is rotating, but it doesn't rotate much relative to the upper arm. It is actually the shoulder rotation which rotates the whole arm. Pronation is for control rather than power.
sources:
th-cam.com/video/1UiHW_P-y_8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/de1h1A6p4fE/w-d-xo.html
Isn’t one of them kenichi tango? This must be an old video
No this is USA players
They make the court look massive.
Yeeep but they aren't bad, not really pros tho
@@juzaaa Yeh. Maybe it's the angle. Low ranked. But they will kick my arse.
@@kenchi7686 Agreed on my part too xd would be interesting to play on this level though
Just average ms players imo
Who are they? Too great
why i never seen us badminton in any bwf super series
Who play against who? Atleast give those teenagers name, so people can know them more.
they are playing on the conrete and without any wooden flooring
Ребята, вы очень крутые. Спортсмены молодцы👍😍
다필요없고 체력 끝내준다 진짜
단식경기 해본 사람만 알죠 저 체력이 얼마나 대단한지ㅎㅎ 공감
배드민턴이 제대로 배우면 진짜 체력 소모가 지림ㅋㅋ
8:14 wow
i want to play in this court but unfortunatily there is not a single indoor court in my area there is two but not for playing purpose just for acadmic purpose
黄色の人は元トナミの渡辺達哉選手かな？
Look great but sadly and the funny thing is..this two player never reach even at quaterfinal round in world superseries tournament..
_If they meet the top 5 players in the world rankings, they are unlikely to be given a chance to play like this because their movements will be locked_
相手選手いい人すぎ
This is brutal to watch
Couldn't consider Pro yet....still has a lot of rooms for improvement.... especially footwork....
점수도 써주시면 더 좋을 것 같아요!
this yellow jersey player looks very similar to young fu hai feng!!!!! 🤯👀👀
ini tarung bebas badminton min?
Nice play ... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
They play good but still not enough to enter a big tournament
Racket string name?
Ya kalau lihat permainan ini.. Y cuma.. Ini.. Yg lainnya banyak... (Judulnya ja il)
0:24
cine este Cosmin Ioan?
They are good. But still lack observation haki. Thats why they had to *run* 80-90% of their shot. Want to see real observation haki? Go watch lin dan. Im not a fan of him, but i cant deny his movement, very fluid as hell.
😂😂😂😂
Apakah maksud anda seperti menit 9:53 ? Bukan kah itu sering sekali terjadi.
这应该是业余高手的比赛，但应该不是职业选手
For class dunia, permainan spt ini biasa, keliatan bagus krn sepadan..
Pernah tp dah lama di kampung halaman
Awesome.. I like their skill.. So cool
스킬이 어마어마 하네요..
Who’s the guy with white and blue T shirt
He's Lee Hock Lai, Malaysian living in the US
@@vctson
Who was the guy with the Yellow Yonex top?
Damn what a strong wrist
Em cũng vậy, e ở hàn 3 năm, về vnam dk 3 năm rồi những mỗi lần đi đâu đó ăn uống hay người ta làm cho mình cái j e đều cảm ơn hoặc xin lỗi trước
1:02 just howwww he do that..if opponent give that shot i just barely give up😩
get faster recovery. just have a positive mind
Nice 👍👍
video nice
7:27
ini di USA
only because they are at the same level. they can't even through the super 300 series qualifications.
Kalau ini msh amatiran,liat aja kakinya,bola msh blm Di pukul Tapi Dia udh gerak duluan,kalau gerak nya searah sm bola sih gpp tapi kalau tipuan dari musuh pasti lgsng susah buat ngembaliinnya
체력좋우네요 ㆍ부럽다
good game, still no usa player can make it into final world badminton. maybe they need to use democrazy slogan or cia or their proud f35
These are amateurs not pros.
They aren't the best obviously but I would still consider them pros. The guy in white was around rank 90 at one point in his life.
the white shirt guy call lee hock lai， he use to present for malaysia national team。yellow one is japan tonami pro player
The might have world ranking ok
They are not top 10 but they are still good professional players in the world
베트남에서 이와 같은 경기는 일반적으로 이동 수준에서만 발생하며 평소와 같이 진행됩니다!
겁나 잘하네 둘다
这个播放加速了吧？
where is this may I ask?
Nice skills Bro 👍👍👍👍👍
very entertaining
볼수있도록ㆍㆍ
Áo vàng hai nhịp toàn giữa sân
Im from indonesia..and i a badminton player..
I just want to say,,your step foot are many wrong...
Sorry my english so bad
What is the error in foot work. Can you explain please.
Mình hay xem các Tay vợt thế giới nên xem những trận này thấy nhàm lắm
nhưng họ vẫn hay hơn ông dk ?
Kento Momota vs Ginting.. paling seru
Ak rasa Lee Chong wei vs Lindan
Super players👍👍
Ae Việt Nam đâu hết r🙂
Man..whys its repeating..
múa nhiều quá, ko hiệu quả đâu
당구같이 민턴도 스텝by스텝 으로
영상 만들면 좋겧다.
한큐ㆍ한큐ㆍㆍ인닝 만들어,
득점ㆍ실수 하는
chưa bao giờ xem trận đấu cùi như vậy
こんな化け物みたいに上手いのに桃けんに勝てないの
Soso ，這還稱不上專業人士這四個字吧
Well trust me... They may look good... But they are not in world top 10 ranking level... World player dont run... Their feet are floating on the court 😁
But... They have talent nevertheless...
일반인은 죽었다 깨어나도
이길수 없다 ᆞㅎㄷㄷ
스트록 깔끔하네요...
not bad
Skill yellow amazing
Both need to improve their footwork
Short video only.. keep repeating the same video
LEBAY...itu mah msih biasa,klas amatir.yg pro jauh,jauh lbih hebat dri pda ini.
I haven't see this pro at tokyo olympic.. Why?
I wish Japan won against USA dude
再春館のコーチの人やん
the yellow shirt footwork step ugly
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