The nature-documentariesque narration over a WR speedrun is amazing on so many levels. Coincident is like the David Attenborough of punching hellspawn to death :D
Damn man. A 25:18 on attempt 42, which already destroys WR by over 5 minutes, but another 77 attempts put in because you want to get below 25 minutes. That's dedication.
You're performance on the last 2 maps was absolutely insane. Especially Spawning Vats, I think I need my own heartrate monitor just watching how knife edge close to death you were. Truly clutch.
Wow, this is truly impressive! I've watched a lot of your VODs, a lot of Decinos videos and decided to give original Doom a try. Every time I'd pick up a berserk and try to punch everything I'd be down to 30-70% health, so seeing you one-punch most of the things on the fly and not get hit is so cool. I can tell you've got a lot of experience with OG Doom, fantastic run!
Can I just say that I really appreciate these commentated WR runs, for example it might be hard to spot the route changes if you're not really familiar with the existing routes in the different categories or if there were spots in the run that were really good or really bad. And in general I really like that there's more Doom speedrunning content, Karl Jobst comes to mind as an example of a content creator who has done some outstanding work. Now we'll just have to wait for Looper to shave off the remaining 7 seconds off his 18:06 Doom 2 UV-speed record for a sub 18 WR, then it would be a perfect time for a Doom 2 UV-speed world record history video.
Episode 2 sure can be painful. I myself have done this in the same format (no saves, 1 sitting, 100%) and it feels like more work than fun sometimes. Good job!
0:57 I recall playing this level, and in the first area that red wall would damage me if I touched it while passing through the opening. Looks like that's not the case here, was surprised when you ran into it and didn't take damage...
Actually, you are partly correct: the walls are not damaging themselves, but the floor is. If you stand still on top of the floor tile underneath the red walls, you will get damaged approximately once per second. It's the same mechanic as standing on top of green nukage (or lava) for example. However, since I usually strafe-run across that floor tile really fast, it's rare to get damaged there.
I'm surprised no one have commented on the heartbeat: you forget the soda :p They're is a lot of awesome stuff to say about your run but everyone have already said so just read the comments again ^^
Well done, coincident! Glad you pulled off the linedef skip at 10:39, that could have been embarrassing. I think you were pleased at the end?! Over the course of an entire episode, doesn't the RNG luck pretty much even out for the Berserk punching? It's never nice when monsters wander off and a couple of times your health was very low indeed. Do you have a proper think beforehand about how low your health has to go to change tactics, play a little bit safer and keep the run going?
Hey PJ! Thanks for the comment. I'll try to answer everything: - I was pleased when the grind finished, but I didn't enjoy this Episode 2 very much. I enjoyed Episode 1 much more, for example (no berserks). - Statistically, the RNG should "even out" over long runs, but there's a problem: a good-luck-streak means you get a map completed very fast; but a bad-luck-streak means you die! And if you die, there's no chance that the "luck will balance out" in the next map, because it's over, there is no next map. So overall, the RNG is there to punish you more often than to help you. - When I routed this episode, I had prepared many "plan B"s for when things go wrong. But when I'm actually running, I'm usually very stubborn about using them, and still prefer going for plan A even when I'm at 10HP. It's not a good habit...
Do you have to go for the secret level in a UV-max run? or just thought that it will be faster for you to take the secret exit in e2m5 over running to the regular exit after marking the secrets?
Hello. Yes, in 100% speedrun categories (like UV Max and UV Fast), it is required to also complete all secret levels. In E2M5, there are 2 different routes that are faster depending on whether you want to take the secret exit or the normal exit. Those 2 routes only differ by a couple of seconds. So, in categories that allow it, skipping the secret level E2M9 is better.
Mr. Coincident I have a question about that SR50 line def skip on E2M4, Do you line up your shotgun on that EXACT pixel or is there a slight range on what pixel you can line up to? I am asking because I was gonna do an episode 2 run at some point and would like to know because I am like 35-40% consistent with this. Thank you in advanced!
Hello. When doing line-skips, there is a slight range of angles that work. I got the most consistent result using those 2 (dark brown on the left, dark green on the right), but being slightly off is not a problem. However, I still only got this trick right about 50% of the time. The main problem is what the speedrunning community calls "Finger RNG". Your fingers don't *exactly* hit all 4 keys needed for SR50 at the same time, there are some small millisecond differences. If those differences hit in-between a tic-transition in game, you will do (for example) a single move-forward tic before all the other inputs connect, and only the 2nd tic will actually be SR50. There is no known way of doing these tricks 100% consistently, without using tools. A few tips: - It helps if you hit all 4 fingers on the keyboard as quickly and firmly as possible (without hurting yourself, or destroying the keyboard, of course!) - Using different setups, you can get some tricks to work with SR40, which requires just 2 fingers. The fewer fingers you use, the fewer "Finger RNG" problems you will have. Good luck.
I noticed that you were avoiding lost souls instead of killing them (maybe I'm wrong lol), but do they not count as entities to kill towards the 100% enemies killed?
@@coincident Makes sense for them to not count in Doom2 because it has Pain Elemental which can spawn them infinitely but why aren't they counted in original Doom ?
@@golarac6433 They *were* counted in the first released version of original Doom. But it was patched out with the release of Ultimate Doom (episode 4), for consistency with Doom 2.
nice run! could have saved at least another 3 minutes if you'd done the void-glide on 2/6 though! [edit] just realised - wouldn't be a UV-max run if you'd done that though! i'm not smart sometimes...
05:31 - SR50 exit jump on E2M2
08:16 - Excellent! The most satisfying 2 rockets ever.
10:29 - SR50 line-skip on E2M4
24:42 - It's so satisfying punching imps into gibs!
Haha it's pretty cool the contrast between the cursing during the runs and the chilled comments you add after.
The old world record stood for nineteen years, but you weren't satisfied until you had shortened it by at least five minutes. :D
that was extremely inventive run also !
The nature-documentariesque narration over a WR speedrun is amazing on so many levels. Coincident is like the David Attenborough of punching hellspawn to death :D
This was so intense that I need at least 2 deep breaths now.
Damn man. A 25:18 on attempt 42, which already destroys WR by over 5 minutes, but another 77 attempts put in because you want to get below 25 minutes. That's dedication.
looking forward to Episode 3
maybe even a full game UV Max
"The shotgunner is infighting the cacodemon, perfect!"
immediately shoots the shotgunner :D
I've been getting into the old dooms (Doom I and Doom II and the expansions) recently, and seeing this blows my mind. Such fast full clears.
that clutch moment at the end of E2M5 was ridiculous
Not just a WR, but three WRs within a WR too. Well done!
You're performance on the last 2 maps was absolutely insane.
Especially Spawning Vats, I think I need my own heartrate monitor just watching how knife edge close to death you were. Truly clutch.
Wow, this is truly impressive! I've watched a lot of your VODs, a lot of Decinos videos and decided to give original Doom a try. Every time I'd pick up a berserk and try to punch everything I'd be down to 30-70% health, so seeing you one-punch most of the things on the fly and not get hit is so cool. I can tell you've got a lot of experience with OG Doom, fantastic run!
Thank you! 😎
Can I just say that I really appreciate these commentated WR runs, for example it might be hard to spot the route changes if you're not really familiar with the existing routes in the different categories or if there were spots in the run that were really good or really bad.
And in general I really like that there's more Doom speedrunning content, Karl Jobst comes to mind as an example of a content creator who has done some outstanding work. Now we'll just have to wait for Looper to shave off the remaining 7 seconds off his 18:06 Doom 2 UV-speed record for a sub 18 WR, then it would be a perfect time for a Doom 2 UV-speed world record history video.
Such great work and fantastic commentary.
This world record run was thrilling, and your an amazing player. I'm super excited 😄 that was a bad ass run.
Thank you!
Loved the narration, great work dude
That was so impressive, Coin. Well done!
what a great run and great commentary. very enjoyable to watch!
Episode 2 sure can be painful. I myself have done this in the same format (no saves, 1 sitting, 100%) and it feels like more work than fun sometimes. Good job!
True. It's the berserk's fault: it can be a blessing or a curse. So inconsistent, yet so satisfying when you're lucky.
"The demons are FURIOUS today"
Well, what do you expect when you call a Caco an idiot?
I'm not surprised by another WR by coincident. As always, amazing run!
12:55 - **sad decino noises**
sometimes nerve wrecking :D
Ooh... now this is some good stuff here.
Patiently waits for E3 and E4.
0:57 I recall playing this level, and in the first area that red wall would damage me if I touched it while passing through the opening. Looks like that's not the case here, was surprised when you ran into it and didn't take damage...
Actually, you are partly correct: the walls are not damaging themselves, but the floor is. If you stand still on top of the floor tile underneath the red walls, you will get damaged approximately once per second. It's the same mechanic as standing on top of green nukage (or lava) for example. However, since I usually strafe-run across that floor tile really fast, it's rare to get damaged there.
@@coincident awesome, thank you for the explanation!
Great commentary it makes the run more fun than it already was (sorry for my english)
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
It's not a coincident run if there's no swearing and complaining :D
great run and I loved the commentary
Wait, if you have the WR, why the FUCK this doesn't have over a hundred thousand views yet??
I feel like Coincident is underrated in terms of his WR speedruns.
Yes? Yes? Yes! Yes! Yes!
I'm surprised no one have commented on the heartbeat: you forget the soda :p
They're is a lot of awesome stuff to say about your run but everyone have already said so just read the comments again ^^
that excitment level :D :D :D
6:40 need a "and punch this pinky" shirt
I would definitely buy that! :)
Well done, coincident! Glad you pulled off the linedef skip at 10:39, that could have been embarrassing. I think you were pleased at the end?! Over the course of an entire episode, doesn't the RNG luck pretty much even out for the Berserk punching? It's never nice when monsters wander off and a couple of times your health was very low indeed. Do you have a proper think beforehand about how low your health has to go to change tactics, play a little bit safer and keep the run going?
Hey PJ! Thanks for the comment. I'll try to answer everything:
- I was pleased when the grind finished, but I didn't enjoy this Episode 2 very much. I enjoyed Episode 1 much more, for example (no berserks).
- Statistically, the RNG should "even out" over long runs, but there's a problem: a good-luck-streak means you get a map completed very fast; but a bad-luck-streak means you die! And if you die, there's no chance that the "luck will balance out" in the next map, because it's over, there is no next map. So overall, the RNG is there to punish you more often than to help you.
- When I routed this episode, I had prepared many "plan B"s for when things go wrong. But when I'm actually running, I'm usually very stubborn about using them, and still prefer going for plan A even when I'm at 10HP. It's not a good habit...
Congrats dude!
Pro gamer
Awesome run 😄
Just wow!
four is my lucky number !
awesome
I am punching bait
Shouldn't Lost Souls counts towards the kills since they're not a "projectile" on Doom 1?
This is Ultimate Doom which is a remake made after doom 2
Really?
e2 uv speed record when?
I prefer sticking to UV Max; UV Speed is not for me. But I will be working toward Ep3 UV Max soon.
@@coincident Fair enough, good luck!
Do you have to go for the secret level in a UV-max run? or just thought that it will be faster for you to take the secret exit in e2m5 over running to the regular exit after marking the secrets?
Hello. Yes, in 100% speedrun categories (like UV Max and UV Fast), it is required to also complete all secret levels. In E2M5, there are 2 different routes that are faster depending on whether you want to take the secret exit or the normal exit. Those 2 routes only differ by a couple of seconds. So, in categories that allow it, skipping the secret level E2M9 is better.
when mother tell you have 30 minutes for game and go to eat
(sorry for bad English)
Mr. Coincident I have a question about that SR50 line def skip on E2M4,
Do you line up your shotgun on that EXACT pixel or is there a slight range on what pixel you can line up to? I am asking because I was gonna do an episode 2 run at some point and would like to know because I am like 35-40% consistent with this. Thank you in advanced!
Hello.
When doing line-skips, there is a slight range of angles that work. I got the most consistent result using those 2 (dark brown on the left, dark green on the right), but being slightly off is not a problem.
However, I still only got this trick right about 50% of the time. The main problem is what the speedrunning community calls "Finger RNG". Your fingers don't *exactly* hit all 4 keys needed for SR50 at the same time, there are some small millisecond differences. If those differences hit in-between a tic-transition in game, you will do (for example) a single move-forward tic before all the other inputs connect, and only the 2nd tic will actually be SR50. There is no known way of doing these tricks 100% consistently, without using tools.
A few tips:
- It helps if you hit all 4 fingers on the keyboard as quickly and firmly as possible (without hurting yourself, or destroying the keyboard, of course!)
- Using different setups, you can get some tricks to work with SR40, which requires just 2 fingers. The fewer fingers you use, the fewer "Finger RNG" problems you will have.
Good luck.
@@coincident Thank you for this substantial reply! I will keep this in mind when practicing that trick :D
@@coincident Isn't it just 3 fingers since you don't have to press strafe on at the same time
I noticed that you were avoiding lost souls instead of killing them (maybe I'm wrong lol), but do they not count as entities to kill towards the 100% enemies killed?
Exactly. They do not count towards the kill %.
@@coincident Makes sense for them to not count in Doom2 because it has Pain Elemental which can spawn them infinitely but why aren't they counted in original Doom ?
@@golarac6433 They *were* counted in the first released version of original Doom. But it was patched out with the release of Ultimate Doom (episode 4), for consistency with Doom 2.
@@coincident ahh i suspected that. So all the modern speedruns are also done on source ports that dont count them ?
@@golarac6433 Yes.
nice run!
could have saved at least another 3 minutes if you'd done the void-glide on 2/6 though!
[edit]
just realised - wouldn't be a UV-max run if you'd done that though!
i'm not smart sometimes...
After watching this run a few times, I can see you had a lot of bad flukes. Do you think you'll run this episode again in the future, Coin?
Hmmm, let me thing about it.
Short answer:
No.
Long answer:
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
With audio only it sounds like a tutorial
How to SR50 even
Unfortunately, it appears this isn’t a world record anymore. A user on Doom Speed Demo Archives by the name of Brookie beat your time by 2 seconds.
Oh, cool. I'll update the title.
Wait. Lost Souls don't count as enemies? I always thought they do.
In the original doom they never did. But in the GZDoom source port, they do (I think it's configurable).