The affordable motion control system that COULD have been great. Moza slypod pro w/ aircross 2.
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Hi Jesse! Thanks for your review! First, apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. We are dedicated to ensuring our user's 100% satisfaction and would make it happen. So thanks for all the feedback and feature requests, we'll definitely pass it on to the MOZA App development team to resolve all these issues.
Hey! I’m really glad you were able to watch the video and accept the feedback. I really hope you are about to address these issues.
However I would also hope you’d have that same level of commitment to all the users in the comment section who have expressed issues with products not functioning, and customer service not responding accordingly. I’m sure they would be happy to get a reply from you.
This really could be something special, and I hope some day it is.
Honestly, the biggest thing would be the ability to do segmentation beyond 30 minutes. I love this product for a lot of legacy cameras that aren't shutter compatible. @Gudsen MOZA.
I love the product and have used it with the AirCross 2 to make basic trailers for 3d printed items (th-cam.com/video/pTDxbmQxS_0/w-d-xo.html)
@@JesseDriftwood Did you try using the 4 way cross above the XY grid with the waypoints? That's actually a nicer way to set your waypoints and less sensitive.
The issue with this app is that it's goddamn terrible to figure out all the features... I think someone should sit down and go through the app like in English.
The reason the segmentation hours is set to 0 is because you cannot create a segmentation path longer than 30 minutes (it's something to do with the minimum move speed)
Edit: You can also double tap a point to move the camera to that point to check your composition before ruining your shot. This app just needs someone to re-design it.
@@JesseDriftwood This right here is why I am a HUGE fan of your channel. Not only do you give us an AMAZING review which just looks great - as all your stuff does - but you then put the company on notice AFTER they reach out to you. That is the best. I wish more TH-camrs/Inlufencers would do this...I had a recent situation with a particular camera bag from a particular TH-camr (you might know him....) and it was NOT the case with him. The bag was promptly returned (after waiting a year for it) and the money went to better things...(a new turntable for my records!)
@@JesseDriftwood Because we are not high traffic influencers, we don't get anything but generic replies. Thanks for making this video!
This is such a satisfying review; beautifully illustrated frustration with a poor product but delivered in a way that it is ultimately positive/helpful to everyone. (I would have enjoyed watching the team at Moza watching this video…)
I’d pay a substantial amount of money to watch them watch it. And also receive their feedback.
Coffee daddy
I agree. It seems pretty rare to see TH-camrs/influencers/whoever getting frustrated with gear and actually voicing that frustration. It’s refreshing as I get this with certain bits of kit sometimes and it’s kinda reassuring to know it’s not just me! 😂 Hopefully it helps to improve products more going forward.
truly anything camera related that has a smartphone app drives me up the wall. give me a remote or something. anything but an app.
Anything but an app 🥰
Best … review … ever … sometimes I wonder if manufacturers even test their own gear other than «does it turn on»
Early adopters of any product are the real beta testers, and they even pay for that secret honor.
Being a software developer and knowing that the shortcomings of our workflow software allows project managers to create "Development Tasks" versus "User Stories" and QA only tests "User Stories" regardless of how much code is changed in a "Development Task" ... it wouldn't surprise me in the least that certain aspects of a product's testing get ignored.
we need more reviews like this! hero!
Thanks Phil! Also last night I was watching some pyramid doc and I just kept hearing your voice saying “shape shape shape shapes!” So thanks for that also!
@@JesseDriftwood Made my day! Here, have a thank you "SHAPE SHAPE SHAPE SHAPES."
Finally. A honest gear review. I’ve bought so much crap because I’ve been duped by youtubers I look up to.
Thank you 🙏
I know these videos are really hard to make because it's never fun to be negative but I greatly appreciate this. This is a product I've thought about buying. Hopefully this encourages them to make it better. Thank you.
What are you on about, moaning about broken things is great fun
My anxiety started peaking just watching this. Initially watching the opening shots I was sure it would all be worth it, but mid-way through, I started yelling at the screen. Thanks Jesse, you saved me from buying something I would have ended up throwing out my window after smashing up the house.
Not that DJI is perfect, but DJI really does need to make a slider or something like the SlyPod that coordinates with their gimbals.
yes please
yes please.
Or we could get Tilta to make that .... hint hint.
I’m down for anyone to take a stab at this style of product. So many possibilities!
@@JesseDriftwood I mean, Tilta has that cooperation with DJI. And their Tilta Flow and the RIng are pretty amazing. So they'd be the perfect target for making one that works with the Ronin RS2.
I need to swing by and do a kick flip at evil empire soon 🙏🏻
YES PLEASE.
Just bought ten thousand laces if it takes a couple tries 😅
@@JesseDriftwood ....pronounced " The Evil empire! " We must not lead the unwashed subjects to believe they have the right to shorten proper titles. In fact, this whole concept of rights should remain foreign to them. Please, continue with your good work. Toil on!
I could make a list of all the things I loved about this video but I'm just gonna go ahead and say I loved this video. Just perfect. Honest, well made and all of that stuff. Loved this. Thanks for the extremely high effort for this! 😊
32 seconds in and I am already amazed at the simplicity and complexity of the opening shot… bravo
That intro shot makes me one to buy one… except I don’t know if I need more gear to hate using 😂
I’ll let you know when they release a version that actually works 😘
I wish I could give this video a double like, because it truly encompasses the great majority that we all buy as content creators.
The manufactures always come up with great ways to hype us up about new products and get their grubby little hands into our pockets (because we are gear addicts and they know this) and most of it is so frustrating from delayed delivery after prematurely announcing it, to when we finally get it and find out we don’t need it or it just flat out sucks 🤣
Even you explaining it made my head hurt lol, but the shots you’ve got out of it are freaking sick haha
Love this video and breaking the norm with gear reviews. Thanks for the honesty Jesse, keep doing you!
Great review. You can tell how much you want to love this slider from your frustration in the review.
I was tempted to buy one but had a feeling it would have these sort of issues, thanks for sharing.
Really appreciate the detailed explanation of all the product behaviors! There is a lot of potential with this product combo, hope Moza will take notes and act upon the issues to not miss out on the opportunity.
I feel you Jesse, I had the same problems when I tested this combo. I specifically mentioned in my review that "WHEN it works, it works flawlessly", but man... there were frustrating times too. I hope they improve the app.
Finally. A honest gear review - we need more reviews like this! Well done.
As a mobile developer, I have to say that it's really easy to fix most problems. like, move slider, make padding for a button etc. There is no reason to "rebuild it from scratch"
Always amazing, Keep being yourself my friend 💪
Thank you thank you for making this review. I’ve noticed and have been admiring your motion controlled shots ever since you started using it. And was seriously wanting to buy it. But I think i have to wait till the new version or new app. Ps love the way you make vids!!
Ohhh buddy. I’m with you on this one. Been using the slypod these past few days and experiencing the same thing.. but I’m able to get a shot that I would normally not be able to get even with another person.. thanks for the awesome videos ❤
Love that top down shot and the tracked text so SICK!
Now this is a review! Well done. Very articulate and well explaiined.
This was a super creative and entertaining video, thanks Jesse!
massively inspired storytelling. Felt like I learned so much just by seeing how you shared your thoughts.
What an honest and direct review ... simply awesome ! I also had a few hiccups with those combinations hoping Moza fixes/upgrades the app as it's the source of the issue. BTW loved the ending 🤣
At the beginning of the video I really wanted one, it looks so cool, and those shoots and time-lapse are incredible! By the end of the video I wanted to scream into a pillow. I totally know the feeling. Apps are synonymous with pain.
LOVE the way you personified the Sony on the gimble during the sponsorship-segment !!!
AAMAZING .
I had a similar back and forth with a company recently, and rage-bought the whole thing just so I DIDNT have to review it I totally feel your pain! And I’m so glad I didn’t get it for free because I am PULLING MY HAIR OUT
love your honest review!!!! I wonder what youtube would look like it more of us just bought stuff
Haha I completely feel you! I’ve had a few interactions like that too (some where I bought and ended up being super happy with it but still never dealt with them again out of how annoying it was).
I’m actually really working hard to get to a place where I only ever review products that I’ve purchased myself… but I’m not there yet! lol
@@JesseDriftwood Surely you have mates who've bought gear that both you and they have no affiliations with? Maybe a "Why the hell did they buy it?" review. Would enable avenue for more honest reviews which are wanted by most people on here. May not necessarily end in a bad review either. Cheers.
@@stephenl9486 we’ve actually planned some short videos for random pieces of gear around the studio, but a lot of the stuff the other guys are using I’m really just not all that familiar with or don’t often have a need for myself (wireless transmission, wireless follow focuses).
I appreciate the idea still!
Great review Jesse! Great to see a really honest review on something! This is why I don’t like things only controlled by apps, I’m not all that tech minded, I’d just never use it if I had it.
Also this was amazingly shot, massive respect to you using that piece of trash app to get those shots!
This is a real review- genuine and concise. More pease!
This is one of the most epic reviews i ever see
That opening is the epitome of an idea executed perfectly. So. Good.
While I would never buy this for use on my channel, I applaud an actual honest review. Thank you. I would love to see their response.
Sounds like a great opportunity for Moza to help themselves. All they have to do is fix their own real problem, and you and all of their customers can be happy. Sounds like they are so close to having a great product!
I love your honesty! This is awesome.
your videos are top notch bro 4 real. yur videos are so.e of my favorite and I learn something on every1. u r awesome
Great honest review. Recently I bought the Aircross 3 and send it back after a few days of fiddling around with it. It could not support the advertised weight and thus constantly went into sleep mode. I also had the follow focus. What a mess! The attachements only work for a particular style of lenses (focus ring at the front of the lens), the motor gets loose all the time and you have to reconnect and calibrate the follow focus each time you turn the gimbal off. I wasted sooo much time on a shoot, until I finally gave up. Luckily a friend brought his Ronin. It worked right away.
I didn't even use the App much, it felt more like a gimmick.
Great video! Great Thumb and Title, great shots! Go on!!!
I love this review! I wish more reviews were like this.
The ending was sublime!
Thank you man for your brutally honest review. Other youtubers should learn from this video and stop misleading people.
I need more vids ngl i really enjoy watching your vids and I like to spot small details on the videos that maybe I can learn or just wonder upon how you did it.
Literally have had this in my closet for MONTHS and never thought to combine my gimbal 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ this is amazing
Ha! That was priceless 👍😄 Reminds me of my DynamicPerceptions dolly with the 3-axis motion controlled head… which required a lot of fussing while trying to dial everything in on a tiny screen using a few buttons. The solution you described with being able to physically line up the start / ends points would be awesome.
Jesse you’re the man, thanks for this!
Brilliant review, I agree wholeheartedly, I got the slypod pro and only use it in one mode, video, speed set to 2, gets me 5min of max distance motion, enough for 10seconds of 1” interval timelapse, seeing how bad the app is, I didn’t even bother to connect it to my MOZA Air 2 which I also have, but now seeing your video it just confirmed my suspicions. For that one thing I use it for, it’s brilliant, and I would say still worth the money, but I have this one specific use for it, while others probably would want other uses from it which as you’ve explained are incredibly frustrating
I have an extremely low tolerance for bad UI… I would much rather just do more or try something new with what I’ve got, rather than agonize my way through something “better.” Your patience and dedication to the shot is admirable
Haha thank you! The problem is that once I have an idea for a specific shot, I don’t like changing that idea.
@@JesseDriftwood if the app would just let it bounce……it would be soooo much better.
Loved this Jesse. You rock.
I really love this kind of reviews, when the content creator takes risks and obliterate a product that the company presents as a "revolution". Doing that is insuring that company will never give him a product to review in the future but at least we can trust that the review is legit.
Much respect!!!!
how your brain works 🤯 blows my mind! that bit before the ad read with the camera moving in sync with you. I'm like 'WHAATTTT!!!!?????" as in the best thing EVER 🤣
Jesses intros always undefeated
Man. Your videos are amazing.
Thanks man!
Great video, voicing both how great the hardware can be, and your justifiable frustration with the software. It felt even-handed, not like you were trying to bash the product, and also showed the great things that could be done with it.
Brilliant review! If the product was less buggy it's the sort of thing I would buy!
Exactly how I felt about mine and what I was trying so hard to talk about in my review of it on my channel. UGH! I hope they fix some things.
Nice one, I have a load of tools are not perfect but have work arounds or just think why didn’t they do this or that. Anyway thanks for that enjoyed it the well like the stuff you make.
Thanks Sam
Fantastic review. I liked this video and you very much.
Great video and the transitions are so Jesse (new word for creative). I remember when I have seen your video about in camere transitions for the first time - I was so impressed , and I still am till this day with how creative You are :) ohhh and cap that lens please (0:17)- gives me anxiety 😜
Haha I have a drawer full of lens caps just sitting unused.
Great video, thanks for the honesty.
Would love to see Edelkrone do their Version of the Slypod. Their Stuff actually works, and 90% of the things frustrating you with the controls etc. are why im using Edelkrone`s Gear. It just works as you expect it to.
I just came from a review of the same setup but then 3 years ago. In that review, the reviewer was slightly frustrated that the marketed combinations didn't work as advertised.
Then I saw this review and being that this one is 2,5 years later I hoped and expected that the issues had been solved and the company now delivers what they promised. But that was not the case.
I think that if a company can't solve these problems in 3 years then you can forget that it will ever happen. They will probably come up with a new product and the promise that this new product will solve it all. However, the slypod in this review (the pro) is already the next generation over the normal slypod.
Imagine trying to fiddle with this thing on a gig. Thank you so much for doing this review. None of the other reviewers mentioned any of the quirks of the Moza Slypod. Saved my like $700, I would've tossed that thing into a lake lol
thank you soooooo much! you have just saved me a lot of money!
I really hope they adsorb this review into their hearts. This shiz would take two months of pay for a developer to refine the app based on THIS explanation. They could bullet point what is needed from what was expressed here, code it up, update the GUI for iPhones other than the friggin 8 and SE (home buttons) and become a company of hero’s by showing that they are invested in customer input that ACTUALLY leads to product refinement (especially elite level filmmakers like YOU with REAL workflow obstacles). You’ve done ALL the R&D for em already!!! Great video.
Fantastic and honest review.
Great to discover this video. Love your style. I only just found the slypod and love the concept, but deep down hoping someone makes a better version. Amazing potential, tragic disappointment. This is a great video though, in detail and information and inspiration. Thanks!
Uh, strong finger moves :D
Thanks for detailed and honest review. I'm looking for slider to make my static shoots and time lapses more interesting, so not getting this one even that intro clip was dope.
What a great video.. very entertaining...love the pros & cons...would I buy one after seeing your video? Humm.. let me get back to you on that.
Jesse, I feel you. I am currently in therapy for Edelkrone disorder. Same kinds of needless aggravations, inconsistent performance and connectivity issues.Only their gear is about 3 to 4 times more money. So while you go crazy, you go broke. It's like a two-fer.
I was looking for another solution, thinking Moza might be the answer, but as you so deftly described, it most certainly would be a death sentence on my part were I to purchase their gear.
Thank you so much, I will keep looking. I have a few bits of Edelkrone gear for sale, cheap... didn't think so.
Looks like such a good tool for solo filmmaking! Really hope they can figure it out and release something better
This is the most real review ever.
Haha whoa! That ending..gangster! 👏👏 Great review!
that was an _awesome_ vid, kudos. I hope that Moza fixes the app, even if just for you!
Fantastic review! I also have an Aircross 2 (not the Slypod). It’s an ok gimbal (it does drift sometimes)and the app is an absolute nightmare. But both have so much potential!
I reached out to Moza because I ordered something directly from their webshop and they had put an incorrect label on the package so it was refused when it arrived here in the Netherlands and was returned to sender. I got the weirdest responses from them, their website doesn’t really function, they don’t have anyone that can speak English and I have no idea where my package is now.. so I get your frustration. That whole company seems to be a mess. But that’s such a shame, because the concepts of their products i think are awesome and they ALMOST work fine..
Yeah, I love the Slypod hardware and AirCross 2.
This video is awesome, thank you Jesse, I think one alternative to add motion to your timelapse or motion in general shots, is the Edelkrone JibONE thak Daniel Schiffer had used in some of his videos, it is expensive, but maybe it could work better for you. Keep this amazing content!
The JibOne only solves the rising part of the equation. It needs to be paired with the HeadPlus One to get the effect he's looking for but, man, the cost of that combination...whew
Interesting! Nice video. Thank you for sharing it. ✌️
Hey Jesse
I love the videos they are inspiring for my stuff. If I may let me troubleshoot this.
If you had a basic 48" rhino slider or similar you could use that for your shots.
You would just have to make an accessory for yourself.
Going with the 48" length you would hit the local hardware store and purchase a stiff channel. In the balanced center of the channel, you would mount the male end of the hot shoe. That hot shoe would go into the slider. The next step is to add weight to the opposite side of the channel that would be the same weight as the camera you are using.
Now you got 48" of an obstructed slide for the shot.
I hope this helps or spurss a BETTER idea.
Thanks Again!
for the loop issue. you can try press + and - buttons for seconds. it will loop without app involved.
think it will fit your workflow.
This man out here making gear reviews with more story than a Netflix series.
Hahahah I love the honesty and talking about the back and forth of a company
Thank you for this review
So glad I dodged this bullet. Great review Jesse. Hope DJI comes through with something like this or a mini cinebot.
Great review
So weird. I would really like this product as well haha! I have the same problem. I’m always filming by myself!
I have a love/hate relationship with my Edelkrone gear. Mind you my stuff is the older hardware. They stole my "power everything with a V-Mount battery" approach when I was working with support on troubleshooting. I had to go there as it would take so long to get a reliable setup that it would kill 2 canon EL batteries. The V-Mount approach gave me enough time to get things working.
Now, Edelkrone has provided a wired setup to multi-component reliability *should be better. They've also added a V-Mount power option to drive all the components.
“I use it on every single project and hate it”
I thought it was Premiere Pro 🙊
Great ending!! :D
Love this video we need more of the real stuff just like “Camera Conspiracies”. 😂🤙🏻
Brilliant review! Would love to see what you could do with a collaborative robot. The motion can be taught with a hand movement (no programming required). Should be able to put you in contact with Omron for a TM5 loaner?
More of these reviews! I want to hear the no holds bar version of reviews rather than the "This video is sponsored" reviews. Jesse went off! lol
Very refreshing review. I have so much gear like this that drives me crazy and would never recommend but still need to use. 'Reviewers' are much too lenient on bad physical and user interface design, they need to be savage to convey the frustration people feel using these products, especially when you're trying to rely on it in the field professionally. If they say 'you have to get used to it', that means 'poorly designed' to me.
Thanks again and just to add my own personal recent gear advice....avoid the Gopro 10 for the same exact UI reasons.
did not know you where a mewithoutYou fan, that is awesome!
Even your ads are fun to watch !
14:41 hahah please include these hypothetical terrible situations in every video 😂
Hey Jesse, have you checked the Edelkrone stuff? I have plenty of their motion control hardware, and they are totally reliable 100 % ... no frustrations...
Man, I had a laugh with all your honest comments about the moza app and the issues with the hardware.
Anyway, great work. Admire you and your work here on TH-cam 👍