Sometimes we don't always have to treat the older generation like glass, they can take it, Rosemary Harris the first Aunt May insisted on doing the Doc Ock bank scene herself even though they were gonna use a stunt double and did it no trouble.
@@keeno201 it's the implication of Spider-man's "Great Power"... While the "Comes Great Responsibility" reflects Peter's good nature, Goblin tried to convince him he could simply "Take Everything" with such power, but he's too weak to do it because he's a good person. Goblin acknowledges that he can't win Spidey, but he still wants to challenge his moral/ideology. Spider-Man going dark would be equivalent of how Darth Vader came to be.
That’s why I LOVE GOBBIE in Marvel/MCU, he’s like the Joker to SPIDEY’s Batman. He tries to make Spidey KILL, or gets killed. No matter what, GOBBIE WINS!
The apartment fight scene was one of the biggest highlights of the movie. Willem Dafoe shined with his facial expressions and just laughing while Peter was laying punch after punch on him
I love how when Peter can’t identify where the threat is coming from, he closes his eyes like he did in Far From Home with the drones and honed his spider sense. Great callback
@@TheyWantMeGone69 he didn’t trust him goblin was right that aunt may taught him to help everyone. Peter was very suspicious of Norman before may told him to help him.
@@charlesludwig8672 He didn't get an oscar for NWH for the same reason he didn't get one for The Lighthouse, because he's not a freemason. If you know, you know.
@@synaptic8471 we are talking about Hollywood , one of the biggest money-laundering communities in the world for the perverted elite... When you ar ein that world , the only way to succeed is to do as you see
It’s hits deep because it’s sooo true to human nature, honestly. We all want something(love, family, a nice home, a good job, money etc) but the world doesn’t let us have it because the world isn’t fair
@@chasehedges6775 then the world even makes us into monsters. Makes us so desperate and so delusional that it steps on our morals and leaves us in the dirt. Also making us destructive
@@chasehedges6775 The world is ultimately a combination of other people's choices and circumstances. That's why it may seem uncaring or outright hostile at times - because it's mostly other people doing what they think is best for them. You can't change their choices at large but you can make your own and with enough knowledge and action you can change your circumstances.
@@DzinkyDzinkAgreed! I believe in Karma which is a supernatural entity that gives people what they deserve, call it the Universe, God or whatever. I also believe "no good deed goes unpunished" but that's because people or the people's system made it like that.
@@chasehedges6775 That's why we all love spiderman, he's so relatable because he the same human problems we all have and that gives him a humble, down to earth touch.
@@chetanraikar7055 Spider-Man is pretty much a god to normal humans he can take anybody out but still holds back and let’s people walk over him when he shouldn’t have to but that’s his downfall he’s to nice “Gods take”
@@chetanraikar7055 he means that spiderman can have the perfect life he dreams of having, but he is a good guy so he sacrifices his own good for the sake of people even tho he is strong enough to have it all
I like the part when he says "these are not curses, they're gifts" as he looks at electro like he's the prime example of someone being granted talent after going through a life being nothing, and overall cause it hits hard in general for all villains there.
I also like how "Gods don't have to choose. We take" is what kicked Electro to go all the way with Gobby's plans, considering his line in TASM 2 "I will be like a God to them"
I love how at 4:21, it seems like Peter is punching as hard as he can. Knowing that he has to go easy on people to not kill them is scary enough, but seeing him desperately trying to at least knock Green Goblin out only to be laughed at? That's terrifying.
@@Icantfindtheforkthe pure terror on my face seeing it in theaters for the first time gave me chills and to this day this scene will forever be the craziest😭
@@Icantfindthefork I mean, Oscorp serum was near perfect, literally making a super soldier out of an average Joe. It's safe to assume the Goblin could take punches from a superhuman like Spiderman.
Nah, he wasn't going soft on him. Goblin is actually a super soldier he could take. i would say he was putting 70 to 90% of power in it as he had to neturalize Goblin, but he failed.
@@nissan_skyline Not many characters have it, especially in the way Spider Sense is portrayed. And out of all of Peter's powers I think his senses are the most underrated, obviously everyone knows about Spider Sense but not many know what it actually is and how strong it really is (very)
@@zachtaylor243 Do you know where his power to sense danger before it happens, or "spidey senses" is influenced from. Surprise, surprise: Spiders. Despite spiders having many eyes, most actually have poor vision and they also don't have ears. Since they can't hear sound traveling through the air, they rely on the super sensitive vibration sensing hairs and receptor on their legs to detect movement on surfaces. So, that means they know when something is approaching and what direction it's coming from way before it even gets to them. The fact that not everyone has a power to sense danger before it happens doesn't make the power itself underrated, nor does the level of knowledge that people have of what it can and can't do, or how powerful it is. Underrated means someone or something that isn't rated or valued highly enough and the general opinion about it is lower than it should be. In other words, this person or thing has more importance, value, significance, skill, power etc. than people recognize, and I guarantee if Marvel decided to strip Spider-Man of his spidey-sense, fans would be outraged because they recognize the importance and how significant this power is to the character. If they didn't care, then it would be appropriate to say spidey-senses are the most underrated out of all of his powers. Also, I'm pretty sure people are fully aware of how valuable this power is for spider-man to have since it obviously makes his job easier when it comes to protecting the neighborhood from danger and it gives him a pretty significant advantage over his foes. Definitely not an underrated power.
I love when fistfights between two superhumans are done justice. They don't just do flashy moves, they send each other flying through walls or powerbombing them through the floor like its a WWE table.
@@HOTD108_ Mutates are humans who gained superhuman abilities from different reasons while mutants are evolved humans. Spider-Man, Captain America, Hulk are examples of mutates. Daredevil is considered to be a mutate by some fans because of his absurd senses, but he’s actually not one.
This fight is probably my favorite from spider man’s films. Defoes goblin looks as me ex if and insane as the joker. But goblin pushes the limit because he truly doesn’t care bout anything else but his goal
That “quiet lab dog” comment from goblin had me Rowling, that’s deeper than surface cuz Norman has always had distain towards Otto even before they got their powers, Norman himself thought of Otto as a lab dog so funny to see that lil implemented so seamlessly
@@mathtutor66 Maybe in the comics and video games, sure. But in the Raimi movies, we never saw Norman meet Otto. They knew of each other sure, but Alfred Molina wasn't cast as Doc Ock until after Green Goblin was already dead in Spiderman 1. That's why this movie was the very first time different villains from the same franchise actually met each other.
I love this scene so much, the fact that the spidey sense exists to alert Peter of danger, and when The Goblin shows up it warns him that there is something very, very dangerous coming.
That reminds me of what Tony said in Homecoming. And it makes Sense why he said to Peter that if Somebody died it was on him. But I know the Boat and May was never meant for.
Spider-Girl (Mayday Parker MC2) did it first during her first outings as a superhero back in the late 90s early 2000s. Not only could her Spider-Sense warn her of incoming danger, but it also let her be aware of pinpointing certain people around her, enemy or friendly. For example, she knew exactly which of her friends was nearby without seeing them based off her Spider-Sense. And of course, when Misery trapped her in a dream-like state, she knew something was not right because her Spider-Sense kept going off, throughout the entire issue! That's why I always preferred her Spider-Sense over Peter's, but this is the MCU so he gets to shine here.
Yeah, because he has no clue who the green goblin is, so it would just seem like encountering someone with multiple personalities for the first time. It was perfect lol
Willem Dafoe is terrifying as the Green Goblin. I love how this film ditched the mask from SM 1 and allowed him to show the Goblin’s facial expressions. The Goblin isn’t just someone who emerges when Norman puts on that mask. It is half of Norman’s psyche and can emerge anytime it feels threatened. He’s one of the best villains in the MCU so far.
Agreed. Willem is an absolute top notch actor. He's on a different level from everyone else in this movie. Putting a mask on a face lik on that is a crime.
This was a pure horror movie moment. Things were going too well, and then suddenly something is obscenely wrong, but we don't know what until it's too late.
chills chills chills chills chilly chill chills youtube comments need a bigger vocabulary, got 100 people every video saying "i got chills" like damn put on a sweater if you're cold.
I love how the presence of the Green Goblin sets off Peter's Spider Sense in such a severe way that he seems confused by it at first. Superbly acted. It really gives the sense that whatever is coming it's bad in a way Peter hasn't experienced before. And then the change in voice and expression on Willem after he gets webbed. He truly is on a different level from everyone else in this movie, just like he was in the Raimi film.
@@borikuarokero4309 The thing is, this sense was completely different from the invasion. For one, the invasion sense was more of a "early warning" thing, letting him know something was coming. This time the sense was workingin overdrive, and you could tell the threat was bigger at this instant, because it continued... His senses knew that until the threat was found, there was no way to calm down. The invasion was a problem yes... but Normal was a hunter with a prey in mind.
oh yeah, goblin loves his toys but doesn't need them to throw down. they're just there to expand his options, but he's just as happy to give spidey the ol one two
Yup! Most people forget, Raimi Goblin was given essentially that universes version of a Super Soldier Serum. Like Cap, Hulk, Isaiah, Red Skull, US Agent, exc.. it amplified more than Just strength.. good or bad
@@trippytimesjosh355not totally correct. They were trying to recreate the super soldier serum that made Captain America (They couldn't mention him in the 2002 movie due to character rights) but Goblin is WAY stronger than Cap. If they fought it wouldn't even be close Cap would lose so hard
@@SEliteGuitarist99 I feel like Cap would still win, he's fought dudes stronger than himself and as dangerous as Goblin undoubtedly is Cap has more combat experience overall. Of course I don't think it would be easy, Goblin would definitely rough him up pretty bad, but I genuinely still think Cap would come out on top as long as there's no innocents or something nearby that Goblin can use as a distraction.
To Willem's benefit, his Goblin voice works even with the mask on. But when you combine that with his facial expressions, it really takes off, and lets you quickly identify whether it's Norman or Goblin coming through.
So many good lines just in this apartment sequence! "You tried to fix me... now I'm gonna fix you." "Peter Peter Peter. No good deed goes unpunished, you can thank me later!"
For real. This scene put me on edge. With Peter’s spider senses coming up you know something is wrong and the fact he is surrounded by Spider-Man’s greatest enemies only brings more tension. You don’t know who is triggering the senses until it is finally revealed that it was Norman Osborn releasing the Green Goblin.
0:00-1:04 The fact that his Spider Sense can sense a personality change and also the heart beat of someone (or his own) is insane! Loved how Peter Parker has mastered his Spider Sense that it can do this!
I just find it amazing how Peter was able to not only sense the danger in the area, but the pure evil in the in the goblin to the point where he knew that Norman had a personality change. This scene was wonderfully done.
Because he ain't used to this kind of evil 😂. Every villain had at least a joke to make or did what they did for the greater good. Goblin doesn't have a greater good, he's just evil
@@klockenberg2299 goblin id just raw insanity and chaos and ruin spidermans day which ever spiderman was around him. Mysterio was just vengeful and vindictive against stark because he insulted his tech one time.
I love how all the fights with Goblin are almost entirely done with practical effects. Really takes me back to the final fight between Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and Goblin in the abandoned arboretum.
Willem Dafoe refused to come back unless he could perform his own stunts. That, along with Tom Holland's background in dance that helped him land the role of Spider-Man, makes their fights so much more brutal and tense. I. Love. It.
@@-.Outlaw.- the area they're fighting in is probably mostly cgi I think he meant they didn't have them fight as cgi characters but the actual actors had a choreography
i absolutely love the subtlety in 0:19 when ock asks "peter?" and the ringing stop briefly when he asks, before continuing again. notifying peter that he wasnt the threat right from the get go, and could keep searching. that was cool
@@jcdg0509 he did do all his own stunts he only wanted to even be in the movie if he got to do his own stunts but if they didint let him do all his own stunts Dafoe wasnt gonna join the movie
@@jcdg0509 He did. Willem Dafoe stated in an interview that when Disney/Marvel asked him to come back, he would only do it if he's able to do his own stunts. All of the behind the scenes show Willem Dafoe himself in wireworks.
I think it was Jamie Foxx who said he got genuinely scared when Willem switched to the Goblin voice and started doing the gods speech. And I don’t blame him, I’d get freaked out too!
Doctor stange, Wong, and happy may have been there, but the overall tone of this movie felt less like the MCU and more like a Sony spiderman movie. Whole film was pretty great, unlike anything the MCU has put out after EndGame.
Tom Hollands acting is spectacular in this scene. His facial expressions are spot on. We can see his fear, confusion, adrenaline pumping, and also a bit of sadness because he truly wants to help these people and the thought of one or all of them betraying/fooling him hurts him. Love this scene.
Almost 70 years old and Dafoe is doing his own stunts and powerbombing dudes through the floor like it's nothing. This man is as legendary as Tom Cruise.
Its cool when you consider that this Peter never went up against something as genuenly EVIL as the Goblin. So his spider sense going completely ballistic for the first time like this really sells how big of a threat he is
It has gone this ballistic before. Actually, it has gone off with such strength it made Peter ill and resist the snap. That's why he knew he was dying and why he felt sick. Everyone else went without too much feeling, they were confused, but Peter resisted and hung on longer than anyone after the snap. His spider sense is why.
Honestly, Goblin is really the first outwardly evil villain we've had in the mcu. He's just unrepentant in every way. Think about it. Blonsky became the Abomination out of a sense of pride and defeat at the hands of the one thing he couldn't overcome. Ronan felt like he had to fight for his people. Even the more evil characters in the mcu had good aspects. Goblin is just... he's just bad all around.
The fact that the Spider-Sense screaming louder than when Peter got snapped and the Goblin was just standing there really shows how much of a threat he is.
There’s a reason why this scene is so good especially for a MCU movie, it’s one of the few scenes post Phase 1 that’s serious, no in between joke/comedy & most importantly it has actual stunts, sets & fight scenes that isn’t CGI
this is also what sets this movie apart from all the mcu movies right now its alot darker and brutal and the comedy is more balanced. all the mcu movies now cant have a single fight scene without a single joke pasted in between it.. to me it almost just seems like they're afraid to show kids' favorite heroes get all bloodied and beaten, but thats just not realistic but for this movie, damn i honestly loved seeing GG showing no mercy to peter, literally power bombing him several floors, it was a good showing that even in their own movie, the heroes don't always win
@@crucible1084 Exaxtly, after 2014 all MCU movies are like a parody, Disney ruined Marvel making them overly childish & comedic and using CGI for no reason even the signs on a shield is CGI instead of having a actual prop like TF??
@@ydkhudson77 Also Captain America the winter soldier one of the best Marvel movies and a movie that takes itself seriously than Thor love and thunder.
I really like that they brought back a Rami-esque horror feel to the Green Goblin. Gave the same feeling as the last fight in Spider-Man, as well as some nice joker vibes
Joker vibes? Yall DC fans are tools find any reason to make it about the Joker. Green Goblin is nothing like the Joker. Both are psychos but they are nothing alike.
@@yoshijb9428 It's pretty clear he and Joker are similar. Both are the polar opposites to their respective heroes, both are insane, tho for different reasons, and both have a similar goal, mostly to break their respective heroes. The only difference is that Joker is clinically insane while Goblin is a Mutant in the comics, while in the 2002 movie, he's the effect of the performance enhancers that isn't 100% perfected, hence his insanity. Not to mention that Joker never had tech he owns, while Goblin has an arsenal of weapons on his behalf.
Scenes like this were what made this movie such a masterpiece. I went into the cinema half-expecting the classic villains to be reduced to nostalgic one-liners and being punching bags for Spiderman. I was thrilled to see that they gave each of them a plot of their own within the film, complete with character development.
the fact that a character who initially a lot of people thought would just be a nostalgic cameo character ended up being the one to kill aunt may is crazy to me. and Otto turning good and helping out in the end was just so great
I personally thought all the watts Spidey movies were mid.. the last two moreso than the first.. HOWEVER.. no one does CBM villains like this guy.. Vulture Mysterio &now his take on goblin? JFC he just GETS them.. i can see why figer wanted him to craft dooms debut
@@dennisjohnsen187 He always was. Green goblin is one of the few villains spider man doesn't pull his punches on, because goblin can actually match spider man's strength pound for pound and then some. Really, it was always spider man's superior battle strategy, agility, spider sense, and speed that gave him the edge in 1v1s vs the Goblin. You can see that in the comics, but also in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man (2002). He easily holds up a rail car full of people, something that easily would have weighed several tons, and with one hand no less, while he dangled MJ off the edge of a bridge with his other hand.
Goblin always was since Tobey Maguires Spiderman 2002 and the comic books. The fact is the Goblin formula was a failed attempt to re-create the super soldier serum, but it's effects are far stronger matching the Goblins strength and everything to Spidermans. So neither one is stronger than the other, that's how Goblin can beat Spiderman to a pulp, cause he never pulls his punches like Spiderman does.
It's not that goblin was stronger than in the raimiverse, its just Tobey Spiderman is more durable. You see how he's no worse for wear when he got a hit that sent him flying back and breaking through wood then proceeds to eat more punches like nothing.
Hell yeah, the suspense is nicely directed. I seen this movie in theaters with family. Not even a fan of Spider-Man personally, but this scene stuck out in my mind.
I love how goblins armor showed through the damage to his clothing. I love how much pain spiderman was in when he got hit (so unlike most mcu movies), you really felt the insane danger of this strong guy who lacked the agility of spiderman but had raw power and resistance to damage Of course his acting was perfect and much needed in the mcu (a good villain for once) Extra points for Alfred Molina, absolutely perfect in the movie too
One thing that I don't think gets enough credit is how beautifully they execute goblins costume transformation into an altered version of the classic goblin look. Whoever thought a simple purple hoodie tattering from battle into the iconic purple hood over his goblin suit is a GENIUS!
Peter’s spider sense is so powerful that it can take control of his body, even when he’s unconscious. Peter can even fight while while unconscious because his spider sense will keep him out of danger. NWH showed the best portrayal of the Spider Sense
@@eternalnjem in sorry did you miss the part in far from home where spider-man literally uses his spider-senses during the drone fight and confrontation with Mysterio..appreantly you did miss that
4:19 This right here. I still get chills watching this scene. Peter throwing punch after punch, and Norman just laughs! Such a menacing character, and one of the best actors of our time.
It was MCU Peter’s first time throwing punches against his enemies as well. That made this moment so much more powerful. It was his first experience with real evil.
@@richos07 To be clear, he threw multiple blows against Thanos with zero fear. Thanos did only toss him aside as a nuisance but Goblin was definitely a more personal matter, and Peter threw EVERYTHING into that maniac's face.
The writing, timing, and acting of this scene was incredible. Seeing Peter deal some real blows for the first time was awesome, loved that he used throwables (the table) just like from the video game
This goes to shows how powerful Tom's Spider-Sense is. Able to dodge swiftly in his astral form, and even sensing a personality change from a person. Even Goblin was impressed lol
Mate, if you know spider-man, its nothing new. Spider-sense literally alerts him of danger before it happens. Any kind of danger except symbiotes. It wouldve happened to any of the spider-men.
@@13ain26 Tobey's sense picked up the end of the traintracks which was miles ahead of him in the train scene while Andrew's sense could maneuver around electricity.
I don’t think it’s really fair to compare them. Tobey sensed the train tracks ending, which was impressive, whereas Tom literally sensed a personality shift. They’re two very different things. One’s an immediate threat to safety, another is becoming aware of a highly dangerous individual.
I love how comic accurate this goblin is. Just wrecking havoc for his own amusement with the goal in mind to drive spider-man insane and at the end of the movie nearly succeeds
Easily the best scene of the whole entire movie. His Spidey sense with the personality change, to Goblins speech, then with the best quote of the whole movie “Strong enough to have it all, TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT!” Followed by Goblin getting his face beat in while laughing. Easily the best scene in Spider Man history IMO.
I think that quote is interesting. Suggests imo that Goblin has noticed that he has a lot of stuff (from Iron Man's legacy) but somehow he isn't strong enough to have earned it himself. A commentary i think, on how Iron Man also had to overcome someone truly murderous, to develop to be where he was.
@@indigophanta8288 I interpreted it as he thinks peter is physically strong enough to have whatever he wants and could conquer the world (he probably doesn't know about all the other WAY stronger heroes in the MCU) but he has a "weak" mentality and isn't using his powers to conquer. Instead, he's using his power to serve and help others which is an absurd idea to Goblin.
What would've been the ultimate clapback is after Peter defeated Goblin and Norman comes back and says "Peter, what've I done?" He should've responded with "All that power. None of the responsibility for it."
Yeah Tom Holands Spider-Man villains were felt like b list villains till now . While tobey and Andrews movie villains were A list even S tier . Tobey had to endure worse with this goblin .
@@byleb8189 he lost aunt May to Tobey’s goblin, and never had a real loss outside of iron man before this. Meanwhile, Tobey had to deal with uncle Ben dying because of him, his crappy financial situation and job, mental health of not knowing who he was, harry dying, Mary Jane going off an on with him, Jameson being a goon, being bullied at school, Etc. There is no argument on who had the harsher life
@@Guitarsloth Tobey's Peter rejected a job opportunity from Norman, rejected Mary Jane, nearly killed Harry himself, Chose to work for Jameson, still blamed others for uncle Ben's death until the end of the third film. Tom's Spider-man DIED, lost his mentor, lost his aunt, lost his girlfriend, lost his best friend, lost his other girlfriend because her dad ended up being a villain, lost all of his records, lost all or majority of funds to his name, has 0 connections and all at the age of around 17-18. At 17-18 Tobey's Spider-Man had just lost his uncle.
Goblin gave me Joker vibes the whole movie The big difference is that the Joker wants Batman to abandon his moral code because he thinks everyone will abandon their moral code when the chips are down. He thinks Batman is corruptible just like everyone else. The Goblin, on the other hand, thinks Peter should abandon his moral code because he thinks people with great power like him and Peter can do whatever they want. He thinks Spider-Man is better than everyone else.
interesting viewpoint but i always think he just wants to mess with peter. in the original he saw he and spidey are above everyone else because there was no one else super so maybe he for a bit thought spidey could be a nice henchman but i think just like joker he would get rid of spiderman any moment he wishes so. at this point he just wants to get his victory and make peter say yes and then say something like "too late" and release some trick
I like the idea that the hoodie he's wearing (not only the fact that it slowly turns into the iconic hood for the suit) is slowly getting torn apart and revealing the Goblin suit inside, much like Norman's personality pretty much being torn away and the Goblin personality coming out
What I love about 4:21 is that At first Goblin’s face is like “ouch, that hurt!” But then he smiles when he realizes, that hurt…..This Spider-Man might not always pull his punches, this Spider-Man could potentially be corrupted. And that makes him laugh. Such a cool scene.
@@MrKingYuji yeh, isnt that weird? bc green goblin from spider man 1 bleed from tobeys punches if im not mistaken. Maybe they forgot about blood in this movie? xD
I really like how up until this point Holland's Peter has never really handled a villain of his own with actual powers, powers that actually rival his own no less. It makes his expression of shock at 4:23 all the more chilling seeing Norman eat those punches like it's nothing.
You said exactly what I wanted to say. For the first time since Tom's premier, he's facing a threat that faces his power and laughs at it. He's stopped a punch from the Winter Soldier, fought Captain America and even faced Thanos, but this one actually made him face fear.
Crazy how Dafoe played this role perfectly.. in a generation where everything is magnified, critiqued & scrutinized.. nearly everyone i know that’s seen the movie & even on the internet say Goblin was BEST thing about NWH. I haven’t heard a single soul say “he was terrible” or “he could’ve been better” & that speaks VOLUMES. I still prefer his original performance in Spider-Man 1 because I grew up on it.. but he literally didn’t lose a step after 2 decades.. truly a legend. well done.
Honestly, that was just Lizard in general in this film. He got captured offscreen, hid out in the truck before this and then shows up at the end for a bit. The dude was just kinda there.
Honestly, even though I love the Raimi Goblin-suit and was a tad bit sad to see it abandoned so early on in the film, letting Dafoe act without a mask on was the right call. He's so freaking expressive and his facial expressions do so much for making Goblin seem like a genuinely unsettling character.
the beeping from electro's machine also added to the tension, you could tell he was considering taking the machine off and it only add 2 more beeps to go before it removed his powers
1. Highly subdue mid and high frequencies. 2. Record Tom Holland breathing on par with his breathing patterns on-screen (ADR session needed). Subdue the lower (bass) frequencies and add a slight reverb with decent early reflections. Add some delay to elongate the sense of time. 3. Record other isolated repetitive sounds with similar effects to the ones in #2 in order to generate desperation and tension in the audience. (Preferably keep them spaced out so that the audience can focus on one at a time)
I appreciate the small detail of Sandman not actually attacking anyone or causing any active harm in this scene. He just decides to back out of the fight because he's very much a survivalist. Doesn't want to hurt anyone, would rather just nope the hell out.
he's pretty much tired of all the spider-multiverse stuff,he just wants to see his daughter again (pretty much how Flint marko acts in the comics too heh)
Biggest thing about this scene is we've never seen a spider sense be this long or overwhelming. He's had time to walk around and his senses are in overload meaning that the danger is 1. Very powerful 2. Very near and 3. Most important it is imminent.
Some people are saying that this movie was overhyped and the worst, but I believe that it's easily one of the best out of all the Spider-Man movies, putting aside the fan service. Every person involved stepped up their game to elevate this masterpiece. It's a shame that Williem Dafoe never got to play the joker, although the green goblin is quite similar.
Damn, you can see how the poor May was the real Goblin's target here. Goblin blamed her for Peter's "weakness" and "morality". He thinks that she ruined him.
Because she did. He was going to send everyone back until she had to tell Peter about her dumb morals to save them. And after all that Peter still sent everyone back. They die no matter what. They get sent back to exactly when they died so all the stuff they did literally was all for nothing.
@@gialess657 it was never established that curing them would actually save them from dying when they went back to their universe. They just said in the movie that it "might" and they didnt even have any basis for that.
"Norman's on sabbatical, honey" this simple line is really underrated. No, it doesn't have a deep meaning. Just.... Listen to it. The way william dafoe delivers it, the way his expressions change and the like itself. They're just so.... Awesome. Idk man, my vocabulary is huge but I'm speechless when it comes to truly describing this dialogue.
@Irish Biker in the remyverse spiderman goblin is holding a trailer full of children with one hand with ease in the other hand holding mj by the neck while talking cap biggest feat of strength is holding a helicopter using all his strength to hold it goblin is clearly stronger
This scene is one of the best fight scenes in the entire MCU! Willem Dafoe showed off his great acting skills and facial expressions, and just playing a psychopath that likes to get hurt. Tom Holland also did an amazing job in this scene, he gave everything he had! No Way Home overall is just the best movie ever made, partly because of the jobs of Tom and Willem! Everyone in this movie did great!
What's best is they removed his Goblin mask and let him act with just his face. Not to mention, Goblin doesn't have any "human" qualities (Vulture became a criminal to support his family while Mysterio wanted fame and adoration). Goblin just wants to break a young kid's morals and strip him of his weakness (his humanity).
No, the best fight scene in the MCU was Captain America vs the winter soldier, it was pure awesomeness with very little cut scenes between the fists and kicks.
This film had so many great moments:- 1. Aunt May's Death scene 2. Tobey and Andrew entry scene 3. Daredevil entry scene 4. Final Fight Scene 5. Condo fight scene (I used to call it apartment fight) 6. Bridge Fight scene
"Norman's on sabbatical, honey." One of the best lines in NWH. Also, if you look closely at Otto, you can see that he, too knew something was up with Norman. I mean, why would he walk off like that?
@@TylerCharlesFisher LOL Just stop talking completely, they are NOT a MarRIed CoUpLE" in the slightest and the fact that you BADLY for some reason think that line makes "wANt , that's just plain DISGUSTING to even suggest something as vile as that. “That line” should NEVER give ANYONE that kind of horrible thought that at all that you badly say here and I have NO idea where you come from to say it as it’s so bad that you must be out of it entirely to say something as terrible as THAT! Imagine reducing two of some of the BEST and most ICONICALLY EVIL Spider-man villains of all time to some terrible and HORRIBLE "sItCOm MarRiED cOuPlE HuRR dURR" because of this horribly bad and disgusting projection of yours that you’re WRONGFULLY doing right here. That's BEYONG terrible and horrible to even SEE someone say at all. Literally NO reasonable person EVER would ever want something as terrible as that from a line as basic and simple as that and you're nonsensical to say it. What is WRONG with you badly saying something as wrecked as that? Like, how do you not feel embarrassed by not saying and thinking something as horrible as that to two of the greatest villains in comics at all to be seen in such a way. What is wrong with you? As NO ONE would EVER see something as terrible as that which you’re BADLY saying right here. You DESPERATELY need HELP when you say terrible horrible nonsense like in public and not being ashamed of yourself when you say this "mArRIed CoUpLE" nonsense that you're spewing out right here. Just stop talking, seriously. The "fOr SomE reaSOn" is that you're out of touch entirely and you don't know what you're talking about at all, just stop talking.
@@TylerCharlesFisher And OF COURSE you would follow the gold man, OF COURSE you would follow him and say something as terrible as you did about this “I dOn’T kNoW I wAnT tO sEeM tHem AS sItcOm mArRiEd cOUpLe HURR DURR”, you’re BEYOND sick and predictable and desperately need help with the absolute nonsense that you’re saying right here. Seriously, Stop talking and delete your terrible comment, seriously. Any any others like it if there around ANYWHERE as literally NO ONE wants to see that, literally no one. Just stop talking, seriously.
@@TylerCharlesFisher Lol Just stop, just because someone says a “jOKe” doesn’t mean that you’re immune to criticism at all. You think anyone can say anything and justify it by simply saying it’s just a “jOkE” at all, lol Are you for real? I’ve HEARD of jokes and I have a pretty big sense of humor but your statement was so beyond putrid and terrifying shocking that someone can stooped so low to say something that terrible. Nothing “hUrT mE” at all, I’m only BAFFLED from the complete nonsense and pure idiocy that you when you say something as disgusting vile as that. Just stop talking, seriously.
This scene, was easily the greatest highlight of this entire movie. It was the beginning of the tonal shift & the most epic fight scene and energy shift of power ever witnessed in cinematic history across the screen for Spidey fans all over the world. The goblin will forever be known as the goat of villains in the spider verse. This moment right here stands out is one of the greatest dialogues the goblin has ever said. Easily able to match the dialogue in the original Spider-Man Trilogy.
How is nobody talking about the fact that the spidey senses only locked on to the main danger, we see him look at sandman and electro even asked why he was looking at him like that. Peter got a sense off all 3 but goblins was just the strongest. Amazing details.
Also why he got the tingle and walked out of the room he was in with goblin, cause there were multiple sources of the spidey sense so it threw him off and he had to close his eyes and concentrate to pick out goblin
Bro he also look at Doc Oct. He never really "only locked down on the main danger" but rather "locked down at the only danger" I believe. At that point Sandman have no really apparent reason to be hostile since he wants to go home. And Electro may have been some danger but he's really undecided until Goblin's reveal.
No Man u r wrong 😂 Fighting with vulture on the high atmosphere plane it’s not easy , he did without his suit. None spider man would have fight in high atmosphere😅 Fighting with thanos Fighting with mysterio and it is still suspicious whether he is alive or not TOM HOLLAND IS BEST ❤ HE WAS SHOWN LITTLE PANIC IN THIS FIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS FIGHTING OTHER VILLAINS TOO. He Wanted to save aunt also.. this all things can’t be done in few moments. That’s why ❤
@@vandanakasera8130 "With his level of power on his own" I'm pretty sure Vulture and Mysterio are nowhere near the same level of strength as Spidey is. Yes, he fought Thanos. Along with Dr Strange. And Iron Man, and like 3 guardians of the galaxy....
I love how decisive Peter is here, I feel like homecoming Peter wouldn't have had the guts to call out Osborn and the Goblin probably would have continued to play him like a fiddle, but Peter knows not everyone is what they seem and the only thing he can truly always trust is his Spider Sense.
You worded it perfectly. I was thinking the same thing after watching the movies chronologically. Hollands Spider-Man is the youngest and is so gullible and believes in the adults, so he keeps getting tricked. The sense could not be ignored. Also a testament to the murderous intent emanating from GG.
Man, NWH really displayed how powerful Peter’s Spider-sense is. First, when his soul left his body courtesy of Strange and this. I don’t think I’ve seen a much better portrayal of Spider-sense in any Spider-Man media.
@Rangeet Ch.Lahiri Not really. They just actually did their research and know how to push the limits of his spidey-sense. In the comics he let's it guide him towards danger in the city, it's also how he's able to swing around without looking where he shoots his webs. Not to mention after training with Shang-Chi, he develops his own martial art called Way of the Spider where he's virtually untouchable. All thanks to fully utilizing Spidey sense to its max. It's basically the equivalent of Ultra Instinct or Killua's Godspeed from HxH. What you see as "abnormally strong" we comic fans see as "an accurate depiction"
I still can’t stop thinking about how great this movie is. It’s seriously both a nostalgic dream, and truly a good traditional Spider-man story all in one. Having the villains be the versions from other universes is perfect simply bc they don’t have to spent soooo much time setting up the MCU versions, we get to see these actors again in these rolls, AND we get a great Sinister Six-type villain all in one. I seriously can’t sing my praises for this movie enough, it’s seriously everything i wanted and more.
I want Tobey back as older spiderman. On his own movie again. A lot more dark and real stakes. I dont mind Andrew or Tom. But GD Tobey will always be spidey to me.
This whole scene is not just a good fight scene, it's also an amazing Spiderman type fight scene. I grew up watching all the Spiderman movies and shows and this captured what they did so good at. Everything about this whole movie is just great, it really is an amazing Spiderman film.
Gonna be honest, I was worried, the last few times they stuck a bunch of villains in one Spider-man movie it felt over stuffed, but this movie blew my expectations out the window, I just want to erase seeing this movie out of my hear and watch it for the first time again
I kind of wish the villains had remained in the MCU after the conclusion of this movie. Would have been good to have the villains still in the background, where they could have been side characters in other Spider-Man movies, or even any other MCU movie
What I love is that green goblin is spider man's greatest nemesis no matter what time or place he's in. Peter's spidey sense never went off this intensely ever, not even for Thanos
I think part of the reason for that is thanos had no lethal intent when fighting Spider-Man and the others b4 he went to kill Tony dude wasn't using any more force than necessary to simply handle them (you not wrong ab GG though)
@@kendallhunte2055 I think it also has to do with his understanding of the situation. He was just kinda pulled into the whole Thanos affair, while he was basically a part of The Villains coming through from the start.
There was actually gonna be a scene where Andrew and To ey discussed their struggles against what their Green Goblins had not only done to them but affected their future. Remember Norman essentially was the catalyst for Tobeys struggles throughout the entire trilogy, and Andrew went Punisher mode after Harry took Gwen.
This scene is still mind blowing the whole tone of the entire trilogy was so fun and goofy, it became a whole different vibe instantly when Goblin revealed himself even the choreography with the fights.
Yeah I can see what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t say this trilogy was completely about being fun and goofy. That’s what the Venom movies are all about. Homecoming and Far From Home have had serious and intense moments too, like Peter finding out that Vulture is Liz’s dad, Vulture figuring out that Peter is Spider-Man, the dad talk in the car, Peter getting crushed by rubble, Peter’s grief and self-doubt with Tony, the illusion scene, Spider-Man defeating Mysterio with his mastered spider sense, and the Mysterio post-credit scene. No Way Home just takes the seriousness and intensity to the next level.
@@LeonardoSilva-nh2gg Well then I guess the critics and audiences who loved Far From Home enough to make it the highest grossing Spider-Man movie ever before No Way Home existed are apparently stupid according to your ignorant statement. You clearly don’t understand this version of the character, and ignorant video essayists like HiTop Films have brainwashed you and the toxic Raimitards. And Raimi’s films have shown more instances of goofiness and cringe than MCU Spider-Man, like with Spider-Man 3’s writing, Green Goblin and his Power Rangers suit, and the Peter and MJ romance that is at best robotic like the Star Wars prequels and at worst toxic as Hell, so shut up.
The fact that Spiderman can literally stop bucky's metal arm punch with his bare hand and he is struggling to stop green Goblin with his full force, makes greens green Goblin even stronger than winter soldiers . 😮
The best part of this scene is that until Peter fires a web at Goblin, you have no idea who he got the sense from. When you think about it, it could’ve been anyone. I think this is one of the very first moments I’ve had in the movie theater where I was physically on the edge of my seat. This scene was so spectacularly done.
@@zonebro6205 there's a probability of Electro or Doc Ock trying to make Peter think they won't betray him. Ock faking being cured, Electro faking the device working midway through given Peter's naive mindset. Especially as a teenager. Hell Sandman just wants to go home and not care and snap. It could've been any of them
@@zonebro6205 I'm not OP, but I'll try to fill in. The scene starts with Peter's close-up and keeps a third-person POV while he's walking to the main room, trying to identify the threat. We are then shown a wide shot where most of the villains are visible. At that point none of them have shown evil intentions, and Doc Ock was already cured, so we might only rule him out if anything. The camera shifts focus from one villain to another several times, switching at equal times, so we still can't make a decision. The heartbeat becomes more frequent as Peter's sensation of anxiety grows. Only after closing his eyes he is able to detect the threat, and so he neutralizes Norman. We have an immediate confirmation as his face lights up with a terrifying grin, and he mentions "the sense" (nice of the screenwriters to use the terminology from the OG trilogy as in the later movies it's referred to as a "tingle").
@@KrivitskyM No, I get that much. What I mean what could have been the intentions of any of the villains deciding to kill Peter. I kinda guessed it was Green Goblin but I guess that's just me. Though thank you for trying to clear it up to me.
Many people didn't understand this scene at all. The Goblin just wants to make Peter evil in this movie. He wants Peter to be violent, he wants Peter to kill him, and that only makes him even happier. That's why he laughs at Peter here, because he was angry. Goblin killed May for a reason. "I’m gonna fix you, you can thank me later". Also, this line confirmed that Spidey wasn't bloodlusted here lol “Your weakness is morality, It’s choking you, Can you feel it?”
It reminds me of a scene in the Danny Phantom episode Bitter Reunions where Vlad Masters who tells Danny Fenton "I have experience my child, and the money and power attained through using those powers for personal gain you say. I could train you. Teach you everything I know. And all you have to do is renounce your idiot father."
This scene is pure Spider-Man energy: all characters, Spider-Man, Dr. Octopus, Green Goblin, Lizard, Electro, Sandman, Aunt May, including the Daily Bugle/JJ Jameson, F.E.A.S.T., and Stark Industries tech, are packed in just one scene.
Definitely! Not just this scene, but this whole movie is one big love letter to all things Spiderman. References to Miles Morales, Venom, in the sky there was Kraven, Black Cat, Rhino, Scorpion, etc. It's literally anything and everything Spiderman related. Only thing missing was Stan Lee 😭
This is an amazing spidey-sense scene not only for the fact it sensed the change from regular Norman to the Goblin, but the realization that he is literally surrounded by villains that could cause so much trouble
Another interesting note here is that all the villains in the scene, except for Goblin himself, aren't reacting in a way that's explicitly hostile. Goblin simply empowers them with the notion that "these powers aren't curses, they're gifts" and in reaction to the ensuing conflict each of the villains just more or less leave. Sandman just leaves. Lizard wasn't even in the room and escapes from a truck downstairs. Electro disconnects himself from the device and recharges himself with Tony's arch reactor piece. He then only becomes hostile to the one person trying to prevent him from leaving. Doc Oc isn't affected at all by Goblin's speech, but leaves after failing to stop electro from escaping. Goblin, on the other hand, just goes for it. At the first sign of slightest hesitation to Peter's plan in the others, he just starts throwing massive hands. Goblin has one thing on his mind, and its just the inevitable destruction that results of his never-ending power fantasy. He body slams Peter like a ragdoll and kills Aunt May just to make him upset. Now THAT's a villain.
After all these years, William Defoe’s Goblin is still the best Spiderman villain that has graced the screen.
Yup
willem*
Forgetting Morbius?
@@franklinclinton6313 Morbius is one of the movies ever!
This Film merely shows that Dafoe, Molina, Foxx, Church and Ifan are irreplaceable
Damn… 66 years old and can still fight like he did in the old film…
DeFoe is legendary…
Sometimes we don't always have to treat the older generation like glass, they can take it, Rosemary Harris the first Aunt May insisted on doing the Doc Ock bank scene herself even though they were gonna use a stunt double and did it no trouble.
That's why they call him DeFoe cuz he is The Foe. MG got hands for days
Honestly I think his fighting got better.
In the first Spiderman movie dafoe did 90% of the stunts by himself
@@riteshjadhav1382 he actually insisted on them adapting the goblin suit so he could do his own stunts in the original Spider-Man movie
"Strong enough to have it all... too weak to take it!"
Such a good line to contrast against "With great power, comes great responsibility."
how is that contrast?
@@keeno201 it's the implication of Spider-man's "Great Power"... While the "Comes Great Responsibility" reflects Peter's good nature, Goblin tried to convince him he could simply "Take Everything" with such power, but he's too weak to do it because he's a good person.
Goblin acknowledges that he can't win Spidey, but he still wants to challenge his moral/ideology. Spider-Man going dark would be equivalent of how Darth Vader came to be.
That’s why I LOVE GOBBIE in Marvel/MCU, he’s like the Joker to SPIDEY’s Batman. He tries to make Spidey KILL, or gets killed. No matter what, GOBBIE WINS!
Great comment
@@tylergalvez5033 oh no he doesn’t spider man will stop him
Absolutely insane that Willam Dafoe walked onto the set of two different spider-man movies just to throw hands with the actor who plays spider-man
Gives both of them a beating!
@Aramaru1837_bravo vinc- wait wrong universe
Bro this dude is the jigsaw of Marvel
"Absolutely insane that a Spider-Man villain fought Spider-Man!"
@@sabrina63 Whoosh?
The apartment fight scene was one of the biggest highlights of the movie. Willem Dafoe shined with his facial expressions and just laughing while Peter was laying punch after punch on him
That laugh is iconic.
Him laughing as he’s getting punched gave me goose bumps the first time I heard it.
He is a better Goblin now than he was in 2002. Less goofy and more menacing, also, better design.
dafoe did great job... i like him a lot as G.G.
Am I the only person who sees this guy as top comment on any marvel related video?💀
I love how when Peter can’t identify where the threat is coming from, he closes his eyes like he did in Far From Home with the drones and honed his spider sense. Great callback
I’m
Too bad he didnt keep his ability to not trust people he doesnt know.
@@TheyWantMeGone69 He never trusted them. He just never met someone like Norman.
It‘s also interesting that his sense didn‘t go off with 4 villains in the room but as soon as the Goblin „emerged“ it went absolutely haywire
@@TheyWantMeGone69 he didn’t trust him goblin was right that aunt may taught him to help everyone. Peter was very suspicious of Norman before may told him to help him.
William dafoe was truly made for the goblin role. He’s so good at it.
Should have won an Oscar
@@charlesludwig8672 He didn't get an oscar for NWH for the same reason he didn't get one for The Lighthouse, because he's not a freemason. If you know, you know.
@@user-sz6kp1tn6c do u really need to be in all that to succeed?
@@synaptic8471 we are talking about Hollywood , one of the biggest money-laundering communities in the world for the perverted elite...
When you ar ein that world , the only way to succeed is to do as you see
@@synaptic8471 they literally control the world
"Struggling to have everything you want, while the world is trying to make you choose"
This line hit deep
It’s hits deep because it’s sooo true to human nature, honestly.
We all want something(love, family, a nice home, a good job, money etc) but the world doesn’t let us have it because the world isn’t fair
@@chasehedges6775 then the world even makes us into monsters.
Makes us so desperate and so delusional that it steps on our morals and leaves us in the dirt.
Also making us destructive
@@chasehedges6775 The world is ultimately a combination of other people's choices and circumstances. That's why it may seem uncaring or outright hostile at times - because it's mostly other people doing what they think is best for them. You can't change their choices at large but you can make your own and with enough knowledge and action you can change your circumstances.
@@DzinkyDzinkAgreed! I believe in Karma which is a supernatural entity that gives people what they deserve, call it the Universe, God or whatever. I also believe "no good deed goes unpunished" but that's because people or the people's system made it like that.
@@chasehedges6775 That's why we all love spiderman, he's so relatable because he the same human problems we all have and that gives him a humble, down to earth touch.
I love the Green Goblin dialogue “Strong enough to have it all, Too weak! to take it!!”
the line is wonderful
That was good writing. Probably Willem came up with it.
But what he meant by that
@@chetanraikar7055 Spider-Man is pretty much a god to normal humans he can take anybody out but still holds back and let’s people walk over him when he shouldn’t have to but that’s his downfall he’s to nice “Gods take”
@@chetanraikar7055 he means that spiderman can have the perfect life he dreams of having, but he is a good guy so he sacrifices his own good for the sake of people even tho he is strong enough to have it all
No one cares what you love
I like the part when he says "these are not curses, they're gifts" as he looks at electro like he's the prime example of someone being granted talent after going through a life being nothing, and overall cause it hits hard in general for all villains there.
I also like how "Gods don't have to choose. We take" is what kicked Electro to go all the way with Gobby's plans, considering his line in TASM 2
"I will be like a God to them"
"Gift" is referred to Otto's quote. And that's why you can see the camera switch to him saying "no" because it should be used for the good of mankind
He also probably knew that electro could do a lot of damage
The most terrifying thing about goblin is that whatever he says has some truth in it...
Electro was definitely toeing the line more than the other villains in the film, just below Goblin
I love how at 4:21, it seems like Peter is punching as hard as he can. Knowing that he has to go easy on people to not kill them is scary enough, but seeing him desperately trying to at least knock Green Goblin out only to be laughed at? That's terrifying.
Bro is just tanking them hits like their nothing. Green Goblin is so underrated.
@@Icantfindtheforkthe pure terror on my face seeing it in theaters for the first time gave me chills and to this day this scene will forever be the craziest😭
@@Icantfindthefork I mean, Oscorp serum was near perfect, literally making a super soldier out of an average Joe. It's safe to assume the Goblin could take punches from a superhuman like Spiderman.
Nah, he wasn't going soft on him. Goblin is actually a super soldier he could take. i would say he was putting 70 to 90% of power in it as he had to neturalize Goblin, but he failed.
@SJ Yeah, but at that time goblin was kind of sloppy goblin is a lot stronger than spiderman
I think the power to sense danger before it happens is ridiculously underrated and it’s portrayed amazingly in this scene
How is it underrated? Please elaborate.
@@nissan_skyline Not many characters have it, especially in the way Spider Sense is portrayed. And out of all of Peter's powers I think his senses are the most underrated, obviously everyone knows about Spider Sense but not many know what it actually is and how strong it really is (very)
@@zachtaylor243 Do you know where his power to sense danger before it happens, or "spidey senses" is influenced from. Surprise, surprise: Spiders. Despite spiders having many eyes, most actually have poor vision and they also don't have ears. Since they can't hear sound traveling through the air, they rely on the super sensitive vibration sensing hairs and receptor on their legs to detect movement on surfaces. So, that means they know when something is approaching and what direction it's coming from way before it even gets to them. The fact that not everyone has a power to sense danger before it happens doesn't make the power itself underrated, nor does the level of knowledge that people have of what it can and can't do, or how powerful it is. Underrated means someone or something that isn't rated or valued highly enough and the general opinion about it is lower than it should be. In other words, this person or thing has more importance, value, significance, skill, power etc. than people recognize, and I guarantee if Marvel decided to strip Spider-Man of his spidey-sense, fans would be outraged because they recognize the importance and how significant this power is to the character. If they didn't care, then it would be appropriate to say spidey-senses are the most underrated out of all of his powers. Also, I'm pretty sure people are fully aware of how valuable this power is for spider-man to have since it obviously makes his job easier when it comes to protecting the neighborhood from danger and it gives him a pretty significant advantage over his foes. Definitely not an underrated power.
@@nissan_skyline is it that deep?😂
@@nissan_skyline lmao bet your fun at parties
66 years old and it’s as if he just came right off the set of Tobey’s first Spider-Man film.
For reals 🙂
Bro he did his own stunts in the film. On request!
@@unforeseeable2.058 Willem truly is built different.
Kevin Feige made a time machine to bring 2002 William DaFoe
@@wally4087 it's because he was on sabbatical honey
I love when fistfights between two superhumans are done justice. They don't just do flashy moves, they send each other flying through walls or powerbombing them through the floor like its a WWE table.
They are mutates.
@@sophiawilson8696 No. This isn't X-Men.
Edit: In Marvel, you're only a mutant if you have the X-gene. Spider-Man is NOT a mutant.
@@HOTD108_ But she's right though both spiderman and goblin are mutates.
@@HOTD108_
Mutates are humans who gained superhuman abilities from different reasons while mutants are evolved humans. Spider-Man, Captain America, Hulk are examples of mutates. Daredevil is considered to be a mutate by some fans because of his absurd senses, but he’s actually not one.
This fight is probably my favorite from spider man’s films. Defoes goblin looks as me ex if and insane as the joker. But goblin pushes the limit because he truly doesn’t care bout anything else but his goal
I like how dock-ock turned out to pretty much be a good guy the whole time.
He wasn't even evil. The mechanical arm literally corrupted him
Yeah, not too surprising since Spider-Man 2 shows this as well, but still something I love about him
That “quiet lab dog” comment from goblin had me Rowling, that’s deeper than surface cuz Norman has always had distain towards Otto even before they got their powers, Norman himself thought of Otto as a lab dog so funny to see that lil implemented so seamlessly
@@mathtutor66 the phrase is lapdog, not lab dog. As in ones obedient lapdog
@@mathtutor66 Maybe in the comics and video games, sure. But in the Raimi movies, we never saw Norman meet Otto. They knew of each other sure, but Alfred Molina wasn't cast as Doc Ock until after Green Goblin was already dead in Spiderman 1. That's why this movie was the very first time different villains from the same franchise actually met each other.
I love this scene so much, the fact that the spidey sense exists to alert Peter of danger, and when The Goblin shows up it warns him that there is something very, very dangerous coming.
All while he's in a room with 4 supervillains
That reminds me of what Tony said in Homecoming. And it makes Sense why he said to Peter that if Somebody died it was on him. But I know the Boat and May was never meant for.
Goblin curses all 4 villains.
Spider-Girl (Mayday Parker MC2) did it first during her first outings as a superhero back in the late 90s early 2000s. Not only could her Spider-Sense warn her of incoming danger, but it also let her be aware of pinpointing certain people around her, enemy or friendly. For example, she knew exactly which of her friends was nearby without seeing them based off her Spider-Sense.
And of course, when Misery trapped her in a dream-like state, she knew something was not right because her Spider-Sense kept going off, throughout the entire issue! That's why I always preferred her Spider-Sense over Peter's, but this is the MCU so he gets to shine here.
"That's some neat trick, that sense of yours" (1:05) is a really slick reference to the Raimi film when Maguire's Peter dodged his glider!
I love Electro’s reaction to the Green Goblin saying “Norman’s on sabbatical, honey.”
“The hell?”
Yeah, because he has no clue who the green goblin is, so it would just seem like encountering someone with multiple personalities for the first time. It was perfect lol
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 not sure if Cain Marko knew either, I didn't catch his reaction, though.
@Meki Herring, that’s right, my mistake.
@@keithtorgersen9664 his was more f this I am out of here. 😂
@@keithtorgersen9664 his was more f this I am out of here. 😂
Willem Dafoe is terrifying as the Green Goblin. I love how this film ditched the mask from SM 1 and allowed him to show the Goblin’s facial expressions. The Goblin isn’t just someone who emerges when Norman puts on that mask. It is half of Norman’s psyche and can emerge anytime it feels threatened. He’s one of the best villains in the MCU so far.
And the fact that they used the goblin from the comics
I wish they brought the prototype mask from the first movie
"We all wear mask but which is real the one that hides you face or the one that is your face"
-green goblin (spectacular spider-man)
Agreed. Willem is an absolute top notch actor. He's on a different level from everyone else in this movie. Putting a mask on a face lik on that is a crime.
Should’ve kept the mask but allowed scenes like this where we get to see the emotional range
No one could’ve played Green Goblin better than Dafoe. What an absolute legend.
As Weird Al put it, he's actually scarier without the mask on
What about when Harry has to become the Goblin
Head Ledger would be better
@@alfredohumberto2222 Head Ledger would. Heath Ledger wouldn’t
@@Jackferrett6781 agree. Only his head would other parts of his body wouldn't
This was a pure horror movie moment. Things were going too well, and then suddenly something is obscenely wrong, but we don't know what until it's too late.
Sam Raimi was involved that’s why. If you know, he made the evil dead movies. That’s why the 1st spider man movie trilogy was horrific at parts
@@lonewanderer1328 or wanda is dr strange. the bitch was perfect scary
@@lonewanderer1328 Proof that he was specifically the reason this scene felt “scary”, or are you just saying that?
@@Im.Smaher his source is trust me bro
😃😃😃😃
We all Spidey fans can agree that this was one of the greatest Spidey sense moment ever shown on big screen
*the* in my opinion
Damn right
Yes. It's really good
even better than the cafe moment in Spiderman 2 before the crashing car...and that's saying something...
By far the best spider sense
"Norman's on sabbatical, honey."
Chills. Knowing what he can do, straight chills.
chills chills chills chills chilly chill chills
youtube comments need a bigger vocabulary, got 100 people every video saying "i got chills" like damn put on a sweater if you're cold.
@@nobelissimos8719 bro didn’t hold back💀
@@nobelissimos8719 bro had enough 💀
@@nobelissimos8719 calm down, it's not that deep, jesus.
“The hell?”🤨
I love how the presence of the Green Goblin sets off Peter's Spider Sense in such a severe way that he seems confused by it at first. Superbly acted. It really gives the sense that whatever is coming it's bad in a way Peter hasn't experienced before.
And then the change in voice and expression on Willem after he gets webbed. He truly is on a different level from everyone else in this movie, just like he was in the Raimi film.
Remember in Infinity War when he was in the bus and his hairs stood up as the earth was being invaded. He couls sense that too before even seeing it
@@borikuarokero4309 The thing is, this sense was completely different from the invasion. For one, the invasion sense was more of a "early warning" thing, letting him know something was coming. This time the sense was workingin overdrive, and you could tell the threat was bigger at this instant, because it continued... His senses knew that until the threat was found, there was no way to calm down. The invasion was a problem yes... but Normal was a hunter with a prey in mind.
@@borikuarokero4309 You Know This Is Aunt May's Fault Right
@@borikuarokero4309 This is different though.
Better shut the goblin mouth 😂
No bombs no glider no nothing but raw power. Just shows you how powerful the Green Goblin truly is not mentally but physically.
oh yeah, goblin loves his toys but doesn't need them to throw down. they're just there to expand his options, but he's just as happy to give spidey the ol one two
Yup! Most people forget, Raimi Goblin was given essentially that universes version of a Super Soldier Serum. Like Cap, Hulk, Isaiah, Red Skull, US Agent, exc.. it amplified more than Just strength.. good or bad
@@trippytimesjosh355not totally correct. They were trying to recreate the super soldier serum that made Captain America (They couldn't mention him in the 2002 movie due to character rights) but Goblin is WAY stronger than Cap. If they fought it wouldn't even be close Cap would lose so hard
Actually goblin here have advantage, in such close quarters Spiderman can't properly swing his net
@@SEliteGuitarist99 I feel like Cap would still win, he's fought dudes stronger than himself and as dangerous as Goblin undoubtedly is Cap has more combat experience overall. Of course I don't think it would be easy, Goblin would definitely rough him up pretty bad, but I genuinely still think Cap would come out on top as long as there's no innocents or something nearby that Goblin can use as a distraction.
Willem Dafoe powerbombing someone at his age will never get old
Facts his facial expressions are more terrifying than the mask
@@anthonyhenderson3625 I believe that why they left the mask out so they could use his face more they actually listened to the fans
Spiderman returns the favor in their final fight.
He got it in return in the end
To Willem's benefit, his Goblin voice works even with the mask on. But when you combine that with his facial expressions, it really takes off, and lets you quickly identify whether it's Norman or Goblin coming through.
“Gods don’t have to choose, we take.” One of the most villainous quotes I’ve ever heard.
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@@movienetz no one cares there's like a ton of others who do the same
@@dcalliou7 That's A Bot You Povert Dog
@@iamironman6300 do I care you 3rd world dog?
"Strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it" is mine
*"Strong enough to have it all.. TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT!"* My favourite line in the movie...
Mine too!
Y ese golpe que lo manda a volar esta Ufff
Mine is when he laughs
So many good lines just in this apartment sequence!
"You tried to fix me... now I'm gonna fix you."
"Peter Peter Peter. No good deed goes unpunished, you can thank me later!"
He got it from her that pathetic sickness.
Goblin's laugh after so many punches that did NO damage...is everything.
"Struggling to have everything you want while the world tries to make you choose" it send chills down my spine every time I hear it
As soon as I was scrolling and I saw this comment the goblin actually said the same line like what are the odds
Strong enough to have it all too weak to take it!
This quote applies to parts of us hustler's lives
"Gods take."
Yes!
this scene was absolutely terrifying in cinema, the pressure, anxiety and chills
exactly
pretty sure my heartrate picked up from here and didn't slow down until the movie was over
You know the old joke, "You paid for the whole seat, but you only used the edge" definitely applied to this scene in the theater
Ikr. That theatre sound really makes it almost illness inducing. It was really well done.
For real. This scene put me on edge. With Peter’s spider senses coming up you know something is wrong and the fact he is surrounded by Spider-Man’s greatest enemies only brings more tension. You don’t know who is triggering the senses until it is finally revealed that it was Norman Osborn releasing the Green Goblin.
0:00-1:04 The fact that his Spider Sense can sense a personality change and also the heart beat of someone (or his own) is insane! Loved how Peter Parker has mastered his Spider Sense that it can do this!
Wicked!
He actually hasn't master it, if he did he would of with his reflexes without himself noticing web up Goblin
@@malfaroangel3896 Please don't ruin the moment, we're celebrating this Peter's character development🙏😂
Considering that he had just sharpened his Spider Sense recently with his fight against Mysterio just in the previous movie.
@@malfaroangel3896 even comic Spider-Man still messes up
I like how everyone starts fighting and Sandman just quietly slips out, he like "Nah, I don't want to get caught up in this."
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Lizard: "here's mah chance"
@@ataladin87
Sandman: I'm out
Lizard: I'm out too.....Psyche, surprise motherfoker
Goblin: Out am I?
@@jwill5892
Electro: "powers out?? Not on mah electric watch"
Dock ock: "those voices........ they are out"
I wise choice😂
I just find it amazing how Peter was able to not only sense the danger in the area, but the pure evil in the in the goblin to the point where he knew that Norman had a personality change. This scene was wonderfully done.
I wonder what he was feeling all the intensity what must of been Goinh through his head
Because he ain't used to this kind of evil 😂. Every villain had at least a joke to make or did what they did for the greater good. Goblin doesn't have a greater good, he's just evil
@@livinglegend9709 yep, Pete felt that nastiness
@@livinglegend9709 Nah, Mysterio was extremely evil, one of most evil MCU villains, can be more so than Goblin here.
@@klockenberg2299 goblin id just raw insanity and chaos and ruin spidermans day which ever spiderman was around him. Mysterio was just vengeful and vindictive against stark because he insulted his tech one time.
What a scene. Those spidey sense effects are something else man. Real return to form.
This is something else
Back to formula you mean...
*Back to formula
Even Tom said that was scary, when williem made that face
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I love how all the fights with Goblin are almost entirely done with practical effects. Really takes me back to the final fight between Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and Goblin in the abandoned arboretum.
Willem Dafoe refused to come back unless he could perform his own stunts. That, along with Tom Holland's background in dance that helped him land the role of Spider-Man, makes their fights so much more brutal and tense.
I. Love. It.
Right !!! Toby's villains really hit different
Uhm… half the fight is cgi 😂
@@-.Outlaw.- the area they're fighting in is probably mostly cgi I think he meant they didn't have them fight as cgi characters but the actual actors had a choreography
@@-.Outlaw.- nah, the place is.
i absolutely love the subtlety in 0:19 when ock asks "peter?" and the ringing stop briefly when he asks, before continuing again. notifying peter that he wasnt the threat right from the get go, and could keep searching. that was cool
That’s an insane detail
Williem Dafoe went ALL OUT with this moment in NWH. The creepy Goblin vibes, the crazy laughter AND doing his own stunts in his SIXTIES. LEGENDARY! 💚
he didn’t but ok
@@jcdg0509 he did do all his own stunts he only wanted to even be in the movie if he got to do his own stunts but if they didint let him do all his own stunts Dafoe wasnt gonna join the movie
@@jcdg0509 He did. Willem Dafoe stated in an interview that when Disney/Marvel asked him to come back, he would only do it if he's able to do his own stunts. All of the behind the scenes show Willem Dafoe himself in wireworks.
@@jcdg0509 he did dummy
I think it was Jamie Foxx who said he got genuinely scared when Willem switched to the Goblin voice and started doing the gods speech. And I don’t blame him, I’d get freaked out too!
It's been so long since the MCU gave us a genuinely iconic scene like this
Doctor stange, Wong, and happy may have been there, but the overall tone of this movie felt less like the MCU and more like a Sony spiderman movie. Whole film was pretty great, unlike anything the MCU has put out after EndGame.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182👍👍
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 only thing that felt like the mcu. Was Aunt mays mee too moment
@@quebal_kelly so they can't even show women on screen without you idiots crying about feminism and metoo
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 'Sony Spider-Man movie' also includes TASM2, so it's not exactly a great endorsement,
Tom Hollands acting is spectacular in this scene. His facial expressions are spot on. We can see his fear, confusion, adrenaline pumping, and also a bit of sadness because he truly wants to help these people and the thought of one or all of them betraying/fooling him hurts him. Love this scene.
This comment right here. This guys knows good acting, I like your eye
@@Trakadaddy Thank you, that means a lot. I’m an aspiring screenwriter and director, would love to make an MCU film one day.
@@RocketshipSails well I forsure think you got the talent & eye for it, keep going, I believe you’ll get there one day 🤞🏾
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Spiderman is in good hands
Almost 70 years old and Dafoe is doing his own stunts and powerbombing dudes through the floor like it's nothing.
This man is as legendary as Tom Cruise.
Its cool when you consider that this Peter never went up against something as genuenly EVIL as the Goblin.
So his spider sense going completely ballistic for the first time like this really sells how big of a threat he is
It has gone this ballistic before. Actually, it has gone off with such strength it made Peter ill and resist the snap. That's why he knew he was dying and why he felt sick. Everyone else went without too much feeling, they were confused, but Peter resisted and hung on longer than anyone after the snap. His spider sense is why.
Honestly, Goblin is really the first outwardly evil villain we've had in the mcu. He's just unrepentant in every way. Think about it. Blonsky became the Abomination out of a sense of pride and defeat at the hands of the one thing he couldn't overcome. Ronan felt like he had to fight for his people. Even the more evil characters in the mcu had good aspects. Goblin is just... he's just bad all around.
@@MeTaLISaWeSoMe95 Dormmamu is a demon that wanted to enslave all souls on earth in Dr. Strange.
To say one evil is worse than another is arbitrary in my opinion. But you're not wrong. Goblin seems to want to kill just because.
@@anthonyconn The correct word is "chaotic". He just wants to wreak havoc cuz it's fun. Like a very dangerous child. It's terrifying.
The fact that the Spider-Sense screaming louder than when Peter got snapped and the Goblin was just standing there really shows how much of a threat he is.
There’s a reason why this scene is so good especially for a MCU movie, it’s one of the few scenes post Phase 1 that’s serious, no in between joke/comedy & most importantly it has actual stunts, sets & fight scenes that isn’t CGI
this is also what sets this movie apart from all the mcu movies right now
its alot darker and brutal and the comedy is more balanced.
all the mcu movies now cant have a single fight scene without a single joke pasted in between it..
to me it almost just seems like they're afraid to show kids' favorite heroes get all bloodied and beaten, but thats just not realistic
but for this movie, damn i honestly loved seeing GG showing no mercy to peter, literally power bombing him several floors, it was a good showing that even in their own movie, the heroes don't always win
@@crucible1084 Exaxtly, after 2014 all MCU movies are like a parody, Disney ruined Marvel making them overly childish & comedic and using CGI for no reason even the signs on a shield is CGI instead of having a actual prop like TF??
@@shaunharn1998 except Captain america civil war and infnity war they were both special and dark in their own ways.
@@mohamedfawzy5843 and winter soldier
@@ydkhudson77 Also Captain America the winter soldier one of the best Marvel movies and a movie that takes itself seriously than Thor love and thunder.
I really like that they brought back a Rami-esque horror feel to the Green Goblin. Gave the same feeling as the last fight in Spider-Man, as well as some nice joker vibes
I mean Rami did come back for No Way Home after all
Joker vibes? Yall DC fans are tools find any reason to make it about the Joker. Green Goblin is nothing like the Joker. Both are psychos but they are nothing alike.
@@yoshijb9428 It's pretty clear he and Joker are similar. Both are the polar opposites to their respective heroes, both are insane, tho for different reasons, and both have a similar goal, mostly to break their respective heroes. The only difference is that Joker is clinically insane while Goblin is a Mutant in the comics, while in the 2002 movie, he's the effect of the performance enhancers that isn't 100% perfected, hence his insanity. Not to mention that Joker never had tech he owns, while Goblin has an arsenal of weapons on his behalf.
Scenes like this were what made this movie such a masterpiece. I went into the cinema half-expecting the classic villains to be reduced to nostalgic one-liners and being punching bags for Spiderman. I was thrilled to see that they gave each of them a plot of their own within the film, complete with character development.
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the fact that a character who initially a lot of people thought would just be a nostalgic cameo character ended up being the one to kill aunt may is crazy to me. and Otto turning good and helping out in the end was just so great
This movies isn’t a masterpiece
What character development are u talkin about lmfao sandman and lizard were useless
I personally thought all the watts Spidey movies were mid.. the last two moreso than the first.. HOWEVER.. no one does CBM villains like this guy.. Vulture Mysterio &now his take on goblin? JFC he just GETS them.. i can see why figer wanted him to craft dooms debut
I don't think any of us were ready for how strong goblin really was in this movie
I was. Spider-man (2002) was my first superhero movie. I knew that this peter was not ready for that kind of vilain.
I love that they made him strong enough to be a serious threat to Spider-man.
@@dennisjohnsen187 He always was. Green goblin is one of the few villains spider man doesn't pull his punches on, because goblin can actually match spider man's strength pound for pound and then some.
Really, it was always spider man's superior battle strategy, agility, spider sense, and speed that gave him the edge in 1v1s vs the Goblin.
You can see that in the comics, but also in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man (2002). He easily holds up a rail car full of people, something that easily would have weighed several tons, and with one hand no less, while he dangled MJ off the edge of a bridge with his other hand.
Goblin always was since Tobey Maguires Spiderman 2002 and the comic books. The fact is the Goblin formula was a failed attempt to re-create the super soldier serum, but it's effects are far stronger matching the Goblins strength and everything to Spidermans. So neither one is stronger than the other, that's how Goblin can beat Spiderman to a pulp, cause he never pulls his punches like Spiderman does.
It's not that goblin was stronger than in the raimiverse, its just Tobey Spiderman is more durable. You see how he's no worse for wear when he got a hit that sent him flying back and breaking through wood then proceeds to eat more punches like nothing.
This scene was a masterpiece the atmosphere the tension buildup it was a change in tone. It fell like a horror movie.
Agreed, it is almost as scary and good as SHOCKERRRRRRRR!
Hell yeah, the suspense is nicely directed. I seen this movie in theaters with family. Not even a fan of Spider-Man personally, but this scene stuck out in my mind.
@@empyrean196the old raimi charm carried over in dafoes character
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This was done most excellently in the film, and it was a very cool and unique take on MCU Spider-Man's Spidey Sense.
I love how goblins armor showed through the damage to his clothing. I love how much pain spiderman was in when he got hit (so unlike most mcu movies), you really felt the insane danger of this strong guy who lacked the agility of spiderman but had raw power and resistance to damage
Of course his acting was perfect and much needed in the mcu (a good villain for once)
Extra points for Alfred Molina, absolutely perfect in the movie too
One thing that I don't think gets enough credit is how beautifully they execute goblins costume transformation into an altered version of the classic goblin look. Whoever thought a simple purple hoodie tattering from battle into the iconic purple hood over his goblin suit is a GENIUS!
Man what i was wondering when they was gonna do the OG look on him n i was so happy about that transition because i wasn’t a fan of the mask
Same I was like that's awesome they did that
@@justinpitt3922 I love the OG purple hood goblin look but hey the Goblin's mask is pretty dope ngl
Didn't even realise that, which makes it even better that they didn't even draw attention to it.
@@jimjam7928yep instead of being forced it felt natural and I loved it
Peter’s spider sense is so powerful that it can take control of his body, even when he’s unconscious. Peter can even fight while while unconscious because his spider sense will keep him out of danger. NWH showed the best portrayal of the Spider Sense
Yeah the first 2 movies didn’t really display his abilities well
Yeah, that's how his body was moving even without his soul when Doctor Strange separated them.
@@eternalnjem in sorry did you miss the part in far from home where spider-man literally uses his spider-senses during the drone fight and confrontation with Mysterio..appreantly you did miss that
@@michaelbirkinshaw8523 No, I remember well. “Spidey tingle”
Its because he has a psionic web around his life at all times
4:19 This right here. I still get chills watching this scene. Peter throwing punch after punch, and Norman just laughs! Such a menacing character, and one of the best actors of our time.
Sammme I actually felt scared as if no matter what Peter does it won’t make a scratch
It was MCU Peter’s first time throwing punches against his enemies as well. That made this moment so much more powerful. It was his first experience with real evil.
@@richos07 it's as if you can feel that peter are actually scared. When your body trembling and you throw a punch you'll look like that.
@@richos07 To be clear, he threw multiple blows against Thanos with zero fear. Thanos did only toss him aside as a nuisance but Goblin was definitely a more personal matter, and Peter threw EVERYTHING into that maniac's face.
@@eldritchinterface7481 nah not everything he holds back
The writing, timing, and acting of this scene was incredible. Seeing Peter deal some real blows for the first time was awesome, loved that he used throwables (the table) just like from the video game
This goes to shows how powerful Tom's Spider-Sense is. Able to dodge swiftly in his astral form, and even sensing a personality change from a person. Even Goblin was impressed lol
Also shows the insane bloodlust goblin has when he's in control
Mate, if you know spider-man, its nothing new. Spider-sense literally alerts him of danger before it happens. Any kind of danger except symbiotes. It wouldve happened to any of the spider-men.
@@dariusbrock2713 well it could mean that this version of spiderman senses is more prone to sensing danger?
@@13ain26 Tobey's sense picked up the end of the traintracks which was miles ahead of him in the train scene while Andrew's sense could maneuver around electricity.
I don’t think it’s really fair to compare them. Tobey sensed the train tracks ending, which was impressive, whereas Tom literally sensed a personality shift. They’re two very different things. One’s an immediate threat to safety, another is becoming aware of a highly dangerous individual.
One of the best scenes about the movie, the acting, the suspense, the camera angles. Absolutely top notch.
shame we can clearly see the stund duble of Norman, but it is amazing
@@mortenbvre3733 when? Bc he didn't have one
@@mortenbvre3733 he did his own stunts in this and the first spiderman.
@@samlaskowski9537 not really
The best easily, tension, suspense and the feeling that Peter just couldn’t handle the green goblin alone and knew he was in trouble.
Willem Dafoe is just as perfect for The Green Goblin as Heath Ledger was for The Joker.
This film solidified that fact.
Best comment of ever
I think willam could have been the best joker too
@@chubbyblackboi he definitely could play A Joker, but NOT Ledgers Joker
@@ChaotiX1 yea i agree.
could definitely be casted as a joker role but never do heaths joker.
I love how comic accurate this goblin is. Just wrecking havoc for his own amusement with the goal in mind to drive spider-man insane and at the end of the movie nearly succeeds
Easily the best scene of the whole entire movie. His Spidey sense with the personality change, to Goblins speech, then with the best quote of the whole movie “Strong enough to have it all, TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT!” Followed by Goblin getting his face beat in while laughing. Easily the best scene in Spider Man history IMO.
I think that quote is interesting. Suggests imo that Goblin has noticed that he has a lot of stuff (from Iron Man's legacy) but somehow he isn't strong enough to have earned it himself. A commentary i think, on how Iron Man also had to overcome someone truly murderous, to develop to be where he was.
@@indigophanta8288 I interpreted it as he thinks peter is physically strong enough to have whatever he wants and could conquer the world (he probably doesn't know about all the other WAY stronger heroes in the MCU) but he has a "weak" mentality and isn't using his powers to conquer. Instead, he's using his power to serve and help others which is an absurd idea to Goblin.
And the aftermath was sad 😢😭.
What would've been the ultimate clapback is after Peter defeated Goblin and Norman comes back and says "Peter, what've I done?" He should've responded with "All that power. None of the responsibility for it."
Indeed
I like how this scene shows the Terrible things Tobeys Spider-Man had too go through, his villains by far are the most deadly
Yeah Tom Holands Spider-Man villains were felt like b list villains till now . While tobey and Andrews movie villains were A list even S tier . Tobey had to endure worse with this goblin .
@@Ladiesman2417 Pretty sure the only spidey to lose aunt may was Holland so
@@byleb8189 which was killed by tobey's green goblin
@@byleb8189 he lost aunt May to Tobey’s goblin, and never had a real loss outside of iron man before this. Meanwhile, Tobey had to deal with uncle Ben dying because of him, his crappy financial situation and job, mental health of not knowing who he was, harry dying, Mary Jane going off an on with him, Jameson being a goon, being bullied at school, Etc. There is no argument on who had the harsher life
@@Guitarsloth Tobey's Peter rejected a job opportunity from Norman, rejected Mary Jane, nearly killed Harry himself, Chose to work for Jameson, still blamed others for uncle Ben's death until the end of the third film.
Tom's Spider-man DIED, lost his mentor, lost his aunt, lost his girlfriend, lost his best friend, lost his other girlfriend because her dad ended up being a villain, lost all of his records, lost all or majority of funds to his name, has 0 connections and all at the age of around 17-18. At 17-18 Tobey's Spider-Man had just lost his uncle.
Goblin gave me Joker vibes the whole movie The big difference is that the Joker wants Batman to abandon his moral code because he thinks everyone will abandon their moral code when the chips are down. He thinks Batman is corruptible just like everyone else. The Goblin, on the other hand, thinks Peter should abandon his moral code because he thinks people with great power like him and Peter can do whatever they want. He thinks Spider-Man is better than everyone else.
interesting viewpoint but i always think he just wants to mess with peter. in the original he saw he and spidey are above everyone else because there was no one else super so maybe he for a bit thought spidey could be a nice henchman but i think just like joker he would get rid of spiderman any moment he wishes so. at this point he just wants to get his victory and make peter say yes and then say something like "too late" and release some trick
@Kalle Metsähalme Nah.
You also forgot that Peter punched Osborn the same way batman punch joker over and over, and what did the bad guys do? Laugh
I was telling my buddies after this movie, I told them “willam would make an interesting joker, he would be a great joker”…and it would be at the top.
That’s just Nolan joker. Comic joker is a pretty different character
I like the idea that the hoodie he's wearing (not only the fact that it slowly turns into the iconic hood for the suit) is slowly getting torn apart and revealing the Goblin suit inside, much like Norman's personality pretty much being torn away and the Goblin personality coming out
What I love about 4:21 is that At first Goblin’s face is like “ouch, that hurt!” But then he smiles when he realizes, that hurt…..This Spider-Man might not always pull his punches, this Spider-Man could potentially be corrupted. And that makes him laugh. Such a cool scene.
i love this comment cuz i never could have seen it that way
@Ultra instinct Goku I don’t think he was pulling his punches. He just was not enraged. Rage is one hell of a power boost
@@MrKingYuji i just dont understand how the hell green goblin got hit so many times but didnt show a little bit of blood. Weird no?
@@Westende superhuman durability. But even in the final fight I don’t remember seeing Green Goblin bleed from punches.
@@MrKingYuji yeh, isnt that weird? bc green goblin from spider man 1 bleed from tobeys punches if im not mistaken. Maybe they forgot about blood in this movie? xD
I really like how up until this point Holland's Peter has never really handled a villain of his own with actual powers, powers that actually rival his own no less. It makes his expression of shock at 4:23 all the more chilling seeing Norman eat those punches like it's nothing.
You said exactly what I wanted to say. For the first time since Tom's premier, he's facing a threat that faces his power and laughs at it. He's stopped a punch from the Winter Soldier, fought Captain America and even faced Thanos, but this one actually made him face fear.
@@truttlebear7999 he didn’t face any of them alone though
@@-.Outlaw.- he faced captain America and winter soldier alone
@@megaavonaco9954 they weren't exactly fighting to the death though and none of them were clinically insane
To be fair this was the first time Peter is going up against someone crazy both mentally and physically.
4:21 Is the most accurate cinematic representation of goblin .Defoe’s facial expression while Peter is laying punches shows how dark goblin is .
How do you defeat a villain that enjoys getting hurt?
@@JustAnAverageItalian You spare him
@@shubhampahurkar00 or you kill him
@@shubhampahurkar00 succintly put.
Yeah Goblin is marvels Joker just with enough strength to crush Bane with one arm. Terrifying
Willem Dafoe really is such a perfect casting for the Green Goblin. There's something about his voice that is just so completely sinister.
Crazy how Dafoe played this role perfectly..
in a generation where everything is magnified, critiqued & scrutinized.. nearly everyone i know that’s seen the movie & even on the internet say Goblin was BEST thing about NWH.
I haven’t heard a single soul say “he was terrible” or “he could’ve been better” & that speaks VOLUMES.
I still prefer his original performance in Spider-Man 1 because I grew up on it.. but he literally didn’t lose a step after 2 decades..
truly a legend. well done.
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Yessss exactly! 👏👏
I grew up with that original performance too, but man he killed it in this one. It’s like he had unfinished business. This one takes the cake for me.
That voice!!!
Willem Dafoe loves acting. He could just ham it up and take a pay check, but he loves performing.
Dafoe steals the entire scene here. In fact he steals the movie. His performance was incredible.
Aaaaand he steals donuts.
Just like how he stole aunt mays ability to live
Good stories needs good main characters. Best stories needs the best villains.
Facts
The Lizard assist was so unnecessary but funny. He literally forces Peter back in the fight with Goblin.
Like a WWE handicapped match.
"I told you there'd be consequences!"
He literally just came to rub the failure of his plan in his face before dipping out 😆.
Honestly, that was just Lizard in general in this film. He got captured offscreen, hid out in the truck before this and then shows up at the end for a bit. The dude was just kinda there.
I TOLD YOU THERE’D BE CONSEQUENCES
@@lol_devyn3439He sounds like Tom Hardy's Venom instead of Rhys Ifans lol
Honestly, even though I love the Raimi Goblin-suit and was a tad bit sad to see it abandoned so early on in the film, letting Dafoe act without a mask on was the right call. He's so freaking expressive and his facial expressions do so much for making Goblin seem like a genuinely unsettling character.
You can feel how tense this scene is. The anxiety building up, you're breathing heavily, heart thumping loudly, you know something is wrong.
the beeping from electro's machine also added to the tension, you could tell he was considering taking the machine off and it only add 2 more beeps to go before it removed his powers
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1. Highly subdue mid and high frequencies.
2. Record Tom Holland breathing on par with his breathing patterns on-screen (ADR session needed). Subdue the lower (bass) frequencies and add a slight reverb with decent early reflections. Add some delay to elongate the sense of time.
3. Record other isolated repetitive sounds with similar effects to the ones in #2 in order to generate desperation and tension in the audience. (Preferably keep them spaced out so that the audience can focus on one at a time)
Really cool because we got like a perspective on how the spider sense work.
Jnpo
I appreciate the small detail of Sandman not actually attacking anyone or causing any active harm in this scene. He just decides to back out of the fight because he's very much a survivalist. Doesn't want to hurt anyone, would rather just nope the hell out.
he's pretty much tired of all the spider-multiverse stuff,he just wants to see his daughter again (pretty much how Flint marko acts in the comics too heh)
He just wants to help his daughter
It's mostly goblin and electro that's causing harm and trouble, and maybe lizard a little bit
After Spider-Man 3 he doesn't want to be thrown through the ringer again.
Biggest thing about this scene is we've never seen a spider sense be this long or overwhelming. He's had time to walk around and his senses are in overload meaning that the danger is 1. Very powerful 2. Very near and 3. Most important it is imminent.
Even the threat of Thanos didn’t set his Spider-Sense off that much.
Which is absolutely saying something…
Really well explained. This is probably the best spider sense scene counting all the Spider-Man movies.
Some people are saying that this movie was overhyped and the worst, but I believe that it's easily one of the best out of all the Spider-Man movies, putting aside the fan service. Every person involved stepped up their game to elevate this masterpiece. It's a shame that Williem Dafoe never got to play the joker, although the green goblin is quite similar.
To be fair thanos isn’t all bad just misunderstood where the green goblin is pure evil
William Dafoe is absolutely amazing. Love his performance
1:15 Electro’s response was funnier when I realized that was the first time he heard the Goblin and not Norman🤣😭
Da hell?
@@ultramanCL I like how they put his line after Goblin called Otto "honey..."
@@IamNinjaOfNinja lol da hell is he gey?
It was stupid, ruining the tension and beautiful acting of dafoe just to shove in the stupid mcu humor
@@justanawkwarddude9035 didnt seem like it. Looked like Electro really got confused on whats happening
Damn, you can see how the poor May was the real Goblin's target here. Goblin blamed her for Peter's "weakness" and "morality". He thinks that she ruined him.
Because she did. He was going to send everyone back until she had to tell Peter about her dumb morals to save them. And after all that Peter still sent everyone back. They die no matter what. They get sent back to exactly when they died so all the stuff they did literally was all for nothing.
@@altonb93 they were cured, tf you mean
@@altonb93 They're cured at the end . So your point being ????
@@altonb93 🤡
@@gialess657 it was never established that curing them would actually save them from dying when they went back to their universe. They just said in the movie that it "might" and they didnt even have any basis for that.
Please SOMEONE give Willem an OSCAR for playing Goblin so WELL!
No
@@borris3768 ratio
Willem*
@@borris3768
Yes
@@dbxvhero9006 I've reported you
"Norman's on sabbatical, honey" this simple line is really underrated. No, it doesn't have a deep meaning. Just.... Listen to it. The way william dafoe delivers it, the way his expressions change and the like itself. They're just so.... Awesome. Idk man, my vocabulary is huge but I'm speechless when it comes to truly describing this dialogue.
I love how when Peter is repeatedly punching Norman, his smile just keeps getting more wicked.
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Yeah, it’s crazy.
*and it was improvised.*
I believe he noticed he couldn’t pull his punches anymore here
Do you realize how strong his dose is? Whatever Osbourne drug that serum he took made him stronger then captain america
@Irish Biker but it was, dude
@Irish Biker in the remyverse spiderman goblin is holding a trailer full of children with one hand with ease in the other hand holding mj by the neck while talking cap biggest feat of strength is holding a helicopter using all his strength to hold it goblin is clearly stronger
This scene is one of the best fight scenes in the entire MCU! Willem Dafoe showed off his great acting skills and facial expressions, and just playing a psychopath that likes to get hurt. Tom Holland also did an amazing job in this scene, he gave everything he had! No Way Home overall is just the best movie ever made, partly because of the jobs of Tom and Willem! Everyone in this movie did great!
What's best is they removed his Goblin mask and let him act with just his face. Not to mention, Goblin doesn't have any "human" qualities (Vulture became a criminal to support his family while Mysterio wanted fame and adoration).
Goblin just wants to break a young kid's morals and strip him of his weakness (his humanity).
No, the best fight scene in the MCU was Captain America vs the winter soldier, it was pure awesomeness with very little cut scenes between the fists and kicks.
@@B4XCode or Captain America and Bucky vs Iron man is a great contender
Nah this was an alright scene exemplified by Willem Dafoes Acting nothing really great. Winter Soldier V Captain America was OG
@@hellomate2405 The setting, the anger, the hate, something that feels nostalgic but is more it's own thing...this scene was perfection.
This film had so many great moments:-
1. Aunt May's Death scene
2. Tobey and Andrew entry scene
3. Daredevil entry scene
4. Final Fight Scene
5. Condo fight scene (I used to call it apartment fight)
6. Bridge Fight scene
Bride fight scene all the way OMFG
which final fight there was 2
7. Doctor Strange fight
Garfield Spider-man saving MJ scene too.
Strange vs tom ♥️
This movie surpassed Endgame in the nostalgia and wow factor departments. Truly incredible to watch.
Endgame was the culmination of the entire MCU up until that point. No Way Home was the culmination of every live action Spider-Man movie
@@Jackferrett6781yeah...
Whatever, I'lI pick no way home every Day
@@Jackferrett6781 I been saying this no way home was for every SM movie in the past 2 decades what endgame was for the MCU at that point
@@kendallhunte2055 IKR. Both are cinematic masterpieces though
"Norman's on sabbatical, honey." One of the best lines in NWH.
Also, if you look closely at Otto, you can see that he, too knew something was up with Norman. I mean, why would he walk off like that?
For some reason, that line makes me want to see a sitcom where Norman and Otto are a married couple.
@@TylerCharlesFisher LOL Just stop talking completely, they are NOT a MarRIed CoUpLE" in the slightest and the fact that you BADLY for some reason think that line makes "wANt , that's just plain DISGUSTING to even suggest something as vile as that.
“That line” should NEVER give ANYONE that kind of horrible thought that at all that you badly say here and I have NO idea where you come from to say it as it’s so bad that you must be out of it entirely to say something as terrible as THAT!
Imagine reducing two of some of the BEST and most ICONICALLY EVIL Spider-man villains of all time to some terrible and HORRIBLE "sItCOm MarRiED cOuPlE HuRR dURR" because of this horribly bad and disgusting projection of yours that you’re WRONGFULLY doing right here.
That's BEYONG terrible and horrible to even SEE someone say at all.
Literally NO reasonable person EVER would ever want something as terrible as that from a line as basic and simple as that and you're nonsensical to say it.
What is WRONG with you badly saying something as wrecked as that? Like, how do you not feel embarrassed by not saying and thinking something as horrible as that to two of the greatest villains in comics at all to be seen in such a way. What is wrong with you?
As NO ONE would EVER see something as terrible as that which you’re BADLY saying right here.
You DESPERATELY need HELP when you say terrible horrible nonsense like in public and not being ashamed of yourself when you say this "mArRIed CoUpLE" nonsense that you're spewing out right here. Just stop talking, seriously.
The "fOr SomE reaSOn" is that you're out of touch entirely and you don't know what you're talking about at all, just stop talking.
@@TylerCharlesFisher And OF COURSE you would follow the gold man, OF COURSE you would follow him and say something as terrible as you did about this “I dOn’T kNoW I wAnT tO sEeM tHem AS sItcOm mArRiEd cOUpLe HURR DURR”, you’re BEYOND sick and predictable and desperately need help with the absolute nonsense that you’re saying right here. Seriously, Stop talking and delete your terrible comment, seriously. Any any others like it if there around ANYWHERE as literally NO ONE wants to see that, literally no one. Just stop talking, seriously.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Someone literally has no concept of a joke.
Seriously, who hurt you?
@@TylerCharlesFisher Lol Just stop, just because someone says a “jOKe” doesn’t mean that you’re immune to criticism at all. You think anyone can say anything and justify it by simply saying it’s just a “jOkE” at all, lol Are you for real? I’ve HEARD of jokes and I have a pretty big sense of humor but your statement was so beyond putrid and terrifying shocking that someone can stooped so low to say something that terrible.
Nothing “hUrT mE” at all, I’m only BAFFLED from the complete nonsense and pure idiocy that you when you say something as disgusting vile as that. Just stop talking, seriously.
This scene, was easily the greatest highlight of this entire movie. It was the beginning of the tonal shift & the most epic fight scene and energy shift of power ever witnessed in cinematic history across the screen for Spidey fans all over the world.
The goblin will forever be known as the goat of villains in the spider verse. This moment right here stands out is one of the greatest dialogues the goblin has ever said. Easily able to match the dialogue in the original Spider-Man Trilogy.
Clean your nose, it still have a little brown on it.
Calm down child
Hey were you the guy that went to the bathroom after this scene and missed the rest of the movie? Where did you go?
greatest highlight of the movie for the ones who haven't seen the movie, I mean tobey appeared bro c'mon
Hahahahahahaha some of these comments are hilarious. Thanks for the reply & stay safe.
How is nobody talking about the fact that the spidey senses only locked on to the main danger, we see him look at sandman and electro even asked why he was looking at him like that. Peter got a sense off all 3 but goblins was just the strongest. Amazing details.
Also why he got the tingle and walked out of the room he was in with goblin, cause there were multiple sources of the spidey sense so it threw him off and he had to close his eyes and concentrate to pick out goblin
Never occurred to me. Nice catch.
Not the strongest, but the most dangerous.
I'm sure both Electro & Sandman are stronger than Goblin, especially without his tech/gliders.
Bro he also look at Doc Oct. He never really "only locked down on the main danger" but rather "locked down at the only danger" I believe. At that point Sandman have no really apparent reason to be hostile since he wants to go home. And Electro may have been some danger but he's really undecided until Goblin's reveal.
I think that it was the presence of evil from the Goblin that was activating the spider sense.
It definitely shows Peters fighting inexperience. He’s never fought anyone with his level of power on his own before.
No Man u r wrong 😂
Fighting with vulture on the high atmosphere plane it’s not easy , he did without his suit. None spider man would have fight in high atmosphere😅
Fighting with thanos
Fighting with mysterio and it is still suspicious whether he is alive or not
TOM HOLLAND IS BEST ❤
HE WAS SHOWN LITTLE PANIC IN THIS FIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS FIGHTING OTHER VILLAINS TOO.
He Wanted to save aunt also..
this all things can’t be done in few moments. That’s why ❤
@@vandanakasera8130 "With his level of power on his own"
I'm pretty sure Vulture and Mysterio are nowhere near the same level of strength as Spidey is. Yes, he fought Thanos. Along with Dr Strange. And Iron Man, and like 3 guardians of the galaxy....
@@megablueflash1816it's crazy how much people dont read or try to comprehend, they just want to talk and sound like they made a point 😂
Did people forget he fought Cap?
@@MQhelper I'd say this spiderman is way stronger than Cap. But is Cap Physically stronger that this Green Goblin?
I love how decisive Peter is here, I feel like homecoming Peter wouldn't have had the guts to call out Osborn and the Goblin probably would have continued to play him like a fiddle, but Peter knows not everyone is what they seem and the only thing he can truly always trust is his Spider Sense.
Bingo
Love that
You worded it perfectly. I was thinking the same thing after watching the movies chronologically. Hollands Spider-Man is the youngest and is so gullible and believes in the adults, so he keeps getting tricked. The sense could not be ignored. Also a testament to the murderous intent emanating from GG.
He learned against Mysterio, and i love this progression of the character!
He learned after Mysterio that you can’t really trust anybody anymore
Man, NWH really displayed how powerful Peter’s Spider-sense is. First, when his soul left his body courtesy of Strange and this. I don’t think I’ve seen a much better portrayal of Spider-sense in any Spider-Man media.
His spider senses still dodging Dr Strange was one of the best visuals ever lol
@Rangeet Ch.Lahiri Not really. They just actually did their research and know how to push the limits of his spidey-sense. In the comics he let's it guide him towards danger in the city, it's also how he's able to swing around without looking where he shoots his webs. Not to mention after training with Shang-Chi, he develops his own martial art called Way of the Spider where he's virtually untouchable. All thanks to fully utilizing Spidey sense to its max. It's basically the equivalent of Ultra Instinct or Killua's Godspeed from HxH.
What you see as "abnormally strong" we comic fans see as "an accurate depiction"
@Rangeet Ch.Lahiri shut up
@@squeezyjibbz7407 u copy and pasted this from Wikipedia🙄
@@ricardoricochet3021 doesn't matter he's speakin fax
I still can’t stop thinking about how great this movie is. It’s seriously both a nostalgic dream, and truly a good traditional Spider-man story all in one. Having the villains be the versions from other universes is perfect simply bc they don’t have to spent soooo much time setting up the MCU versions, we get to see these actors again in these rolls, AND we get a great Sinister Six-type villain all in one. I seriously can’t sing my praises for this movie enough, it’s seriously everything i wanted and more.
I want Tobey back as older spiderman. On his own movie again. A lot more dark and real stakes. I dont mind Andrew or Tom. But GD Tobey will always be spidey to me.
@@meowarfmoo I want Tobey to be a Spider-dad lol. The one from the universe where his and MJ's daughter becomes Spider-Girl
This whole scene is not just a good fight scene, it's also an amazing Spiderman type fight scene. I grew up watching all the Spiderman movies and shows and this captured what they did so good at. Everything about this whole movie is just great, it really is an amazing Spiderman film.
Gonna be honest, I was worried, the last few times they stuck a bunch of villains in one Spider-man movie it felt over stuffed, but this movie blew my expectations out the window, I just want to erase seeing this movie out of my hear and watch it for the first time again
I kind of wish the villains had remained in the MCU after the conclusion of this movie. Would have been good to have the villains still in the background, where they could have been side characters in other Spider-Man movies, or even any other MCU movie
The way Goblin just laughs in his face is so badass. Willem Dafoe is THE MAN!!
Even after 20 years Dafoe nails the role
It's like he never left.
He's something of an actor himself
@@DPham1 lmao. That's good
@@daustin8888 it's ok...
Facts
What I love is that green goblin is spider man's greatest nemesis no matter what time or place he's in. Peter's spidey sense never went off this intensely ever, not even for Thanos
I think part of the reason for that is thanos had no lethal intent when fighting Spider-Man and the others b4 he went to kill Tony dude wasn't using any more force than necessary to simply handle them (you not wrong ab GG though)
@@kendallhunte2055 I think it also has to do with his understanding of the situation. He was just kinda pulled into the whole Thanos affair, while he was basically a part of The Villains coming through from the start.
There was actually gonna be a scene where Andrew and To ey discussed their struggles against what their Green Goblins had not only done to them but affected their future. Remember Norman essentially was the catalyst for Tobeys struggles throughout the entire trilogy, and Andrew went Punisher mode after Harry took Gwen.
i'm still salty on how we're never going to get a proper MCU adaptation of the character, it's kinda disappointing.
@@ema4020 I wish they redesigned his suit for this movie but you never would've gotten a better actor for the role than Willem Dafoe
This scene is still mind blowing the whole tone of the entire trilogy was so fun and goofy, it became a whole different vibe instantly when Goblin revealed himself even the choreography with the fights.
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Yeah I can see what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t say this trilogy was completely about being fun and goofy. That’s what the Venom movies are all about. Homecoming and Far From Home have had serious and intense moments too, like Peter finding out that Vulture is Liz’s dad, Vulture figuring out that Peter is Spider-Man, the dad talk in the car, Peter getting crushed by rubble, Peter’s grief and self-doubt with Tony, the illusion scene, Spider-Man defeating Mysterio with his mastered spider sense, and the Mysterio post-credit scene. No Way Home just takes the seriousness and intensity to the next level.
@@supersaiyanfox9190 far from home is goofy and cringe lol
@@LeonardoSilva-nh2gg Well then I guess the critics and audiences who loved Far From Home enough to make it the highest grossing Spider-Man movie ever before No Way Home existed are apparently stupid according to your ignorant statement. You clearly don’t understand this version of the character, and ignorant video essayists like HiTop Films have brainwashed you and the toxic Raimitards. And Raimi’s films have shown more instances of goofiness and cringe than MCU Spider-Man, like with Spider-Man 3’s writing, Green Goblin and his Power Rangers suit, and the Peter and MJ romance that is at best robotic like the Star Wars prequels and at worst toxic as Hell, so shut up.
The fact that Spiderman can literally stop bucky's metal arm punch with his bare hand and he is struggling to stop green Goblin with his full force, makes greens green Goblin even stronger than winter soldiers . 😮
Obviously, lol. Spidey is way stronger than any super soldier.
@@kanyerahmingIsn't hulk also part of the super soldier program?
@@alfredohumberto2222 something like that
@alfredohumberto2222 not technically the hulk was always with banner then was able to escape once the gamma radiation let him out
Ain't that obvius. Winter soldier is basically professional soldier with metal arm.
The best part of this scene is that until Peter fires a web at Goblin, you have no idea who he got the sense from. When you think about it, it could’ve been anyone.
I think this is one of the very first moments I’ve had in the movie theater where I was physically on the edge of my seat. This scene was so spectacularly done.
Can you give a deeper analysis? Like explaining why it could of been anyone?
@@zonebro6205 there's a probability of Electro or Doc Ock trying to make Peter think they won't betray him. Ock faking being cured, Electro faking the device working midway through given Peter's naive mindset. Especially as a teenager. Hell Sandman just wants to go home and not care and snap. It could've been any of them
@@zonebro6205 I'm not OP, but I'll try to fill in. The scene starts with Peter's close-up and keeps a third-person POV while he's walking to the main room, trying to identify the threat. We are then shown a wide shot where most of the villains are visible. At that point none of them have shown evil intentions, and Doc Ock was already cured, so we might only rule him out if anything. The camera shifts focus from one villain to another several times, switching at equal times, so we still can't make a decision. The heartbeat becomes more frequent as Peter's sensation of anxiety grows. Only after closing his eyes he is able to detect the threat, and so he neutralizes Norman. We have an immediate confirmation as his face lights up with a terrifying grin, and he mentions "the sense" (nice of the screenwriters to use the terminology from the OG trilogy as in the later movies it's referred to as a "tingle").
@@KrivitskyM No, I get that much. What I mean what could have been the intentions of any of the villains deciding to kill Peter. I kinda guessed it was Green Goblin but I guess that's just me. Though thank you for trying to clear it up to me.
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Many people didn't understand this scene at all. The Goblin just wants to make Peter evil in this movie. He wants Peter to be violent, he wants Peter to kill him, and that only makes him even happier. That's why he laughs at Peter here, because he was angry. Goblin killed May for a reason. "I’m gonna fix you, you can thank me later".
Also, this line confirmed that Spidey wasn't bloodlusted here lol “Your weakness is morality, It’s choking you, Can you feel it?”
It reminds me of a scene in the Danny Phantom episode Bitter Reunions where Vlad Masters who tells Danny Fenton "I have experience my child, and the money and power attained through using those powers for personal gain you say. I could train you. Teach you everything I know. And all you have to do is renounce your idiot father."
Reminds me of Spider-Man when he knocks out Peter and tries to recruit him on the rooftop. Goblin hadn't changed.
Marvel version of the joker batman dark knight dynamic
@@darkmagician2521 "dude you are one seriously crazed up fruitloop. That is never going to happen"
By the way, nice name Selina Wayne. I love the subtle touch.
4:19 This scene always gives me chills
Marisa Tomei give ME chills…
Tom Holland also felt that. He was legitimately scared by that laugh.
That goblin laugh when peters punching him made my whole year🔥🔥🔥
"Gods don't have to choose. We take"
*chills. literal chills*
This scene is pure Spider-Man energy: all characters, Spider-Man, Dr. Octopus, Green Goblin, Lizard, Electro, Sandman, Aunt May, including the Daily Bugle/JJ Jameson, F.E.A.S.T., and Stark Industries tech, are packed in just one scene.
Definitely! Not just this scene, but this whole movie is one big love letter to all things Spiderman.
References to Miles Morales, Venom, in the sky there was Kraven, Black Cat, Rhino, Scorpion, etc. It's literally anything and everything Spiderman related. Only thing missing was Stan Lee 😭
@@LeedleLee457 damn 😭😭😭😭😭
This is an amazing spidey-sense scene not only for the fact it sensed the change from regular Norman to the Goblin, but the realization that he is literally surrounded by villains that could cause so much trouble
You mean he sensed the peronlity?
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@@dickybalboa825 You mean personality ?
@@movienetz No I won't
Another interesting note here is that all the villains in the scene, except for Goblin himself, aren't reacting in a way that's explicitly hostile. Goblin simply empowers them with the notion that "these powers aren't curses, they're gifts" and in reaction to the ensuing conflict each of the villains just more or less leave.
Sandman just leaves.
Lizard wasn't even in the room and escapes from a truck downstairs.
Electro disconnects himself from the device and recharges himself with Tony's arch reactor piece. He then only becomes hostile to the one person trying to prevent him from leaving.
Doc Oc isn't affected at all by Goblin's speech, but leaves after failing to stop electro from escaping.
Goblin, on the other hand, just goes for it. At the first sign of slightest hesitation to Peter's plan in the others, he just starts throwing massive hands. Goblin has one thing on his mind, and its just the inevitable destruction that results of his never-ending power fantasy. He body slams Peter like a ragdoll and kills Aunt May just to make him upset.
Now THAT's a villain.