The Golden Age of Turntables! 1958-1982
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- Everything old is new again! Let's explore turntable innovations from 1958 to 1982. I call that era The Golden Age of Turntables. That's because they figured just about everything out during those years. Everything since has been just refinement.
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I still buy vinyl and will continue as long as they are available.
They will always be available
As will I.
Records/albums not vinyl or vinyls
Hi from Australia. I'm a DJ of some 30 years. I own an SL1200MK2 turntable, brand new....never been in a club. It is fitted with an Ortofon cartridge for DJ use with a nude stylus. I have 2 Shure cartridges mounted on Technics head shells and 2 slip mats for work. I'm fussy about my work collection and treat them like my home collection. I've tried comparisons but the only new cartridge that I really liked was the Ortofon 2M Blue. My hearing is excellent. I made my own split cue system. I will be getting a 2M Blue down the track. Cheers
My 50 year old Thorens TD 125 sounds as good today as it did when I bought it. 👍
Doubt it
@@JohnJohn-lk4lq Why? Then you probably dont know shit about vintage stuff...
I have a 125 also. Awesome!
My 1958 PE3310 sounds as good as it did when it was new :-) th-cam.com/video/CZsttJCHPBA/w-d-xo.html
Dude, my 37 year old Acoustic Research sounds even better.
There was something about the ritual of getting the Dishwasher out, applying the drops of the fluid and cleaning. Then looking over all the photos and reading the covers. A satisfaction not associated with digital. Great video.
Discwasher; I still have mine, still use it.
I prefer listening to pure music without ticks and pops and surface noise to engaging in a meaningless ritual in a fruitless attempt to get rid of those.
@@robertromero8692 no one stated the end result provided the best listening experience. I even miss the time and effort we from that era went through to record the album onto cassette so to have brief case sized holder of them in our car. Again, not saying it held a candle to what files on a thumb drive can provide today but just another memory from ones youth that has value ... Troll away on that
@@CVM222VOLT, so true. The old Discwasher D-3 and some stylus cleaner, maybe a shot of Zerostat too. Taping LP's to cassette (in real time), those were the days. Lotsa fun.
@@martyjewell5683 oh yes! I had a pioneer PL 530 with a good collection of albums, disk washer , zero stat gun and stylus cleaner in a nail polish type container... It was quite a procedure for each side of the record but I was a perfectionist
I still use my old Dual 1218 that I bought used back in the early 70's. I had it re-worked and it still sounds great.
Those old duals are just work horses they may not have alot of electronis but the motor but they are cool to hear work .I got lucky and have. 1219 and a 1229 with a little care they will outlast me.
Great table.. sold mine many years ago😢
I recently bought an old Dual 1219 cheaply, took some care of it, and am impressed with its sound. Playing vinyl records is a great hobby.
Thanks for this excellent video! Liked and subscribed!
I have two turntables from the Golden Age, and love 'em both equally well. One is a Micro-Seiki BL-51 belt drive manual, which was sold from 1979 to 1985, and which I'm actually listening to right now ... Charles Mingus, "The Candid Recordings, featuring Eric Dolphy."
This one belonged to my late father. I had moved out of the house by the time he bought it, which I think must have been in 1979. After he died his stereo equipment spent about twenty years gathering dust in a garage. I don't know what happened to his Marantz receiver or his Larger Advent speakers, but luckily the turntable was still there. It was a mess when I got it, but under all that dirt was one of the most beautiful and elegant turntables I've ever seen. I cleaned it up, took it to my local tech for a tuneup and a new belt, and I have no doubt that it's still going to be going strong long after I'm gone.
The other is a Pioneer PL-530 (1976-1978), a direct drive automatic that I found on Craigslist I don't remember when. This is also a really beautiful turntable, but it originally came with faux-walnut vinyl, which was looking pretty shabby after thirty years or so. Why Pioneer cut this corner is a mystery to me, but before I had it serviced I found another PL-530 plinth and upgraded to some actual walnut veneer. I'd never done veneer before, but it came out great!
I have both of these turntables plugged into my SX-1250 receiver, and they both get regular play, and they really sound good.
I still have my Pro-Ject Turntable... bought it around 1991 or so. My Philips Turntable motor died and I couldn't find a replacement. David Hafler separates... Ohm C2 speakers... Started my vinyl collection when I was 13.... and still have it and add to it.
To me, the fidelity of playing music on a record/ turntable is very warm, authentic and organic. Maybe cause I'm old, but it's my music play preference.
Flagler and Plant did a great job bringing the railroads down here and kickstarting Florida. There's some real jewels down here because of them.
Wonderful video, thank you. As an enthusiast, I don't understand everything audio related and your diagrams and explanations are great. Long live our wonderful hobby!
I totally miss the times where vinyl records were sold everywhere. I also miss the times when vinyl was sold for $8 while CDs went at $15 in the late 80s and early 90s. Now CDs are cheaper and vinyl is three times more expensive than the last time they were on the shelves. Anyway, although going through a resurgence, or having exceeded the sale of CDs - another obsolete media - for the first time in decades, I don't think it will catch up the old sales figures anymore. People have discarded their physical media, seeing them as only a crowd in their rooms. Just ten years ago, I was begging people not to get rid of their CDs. As a person who burned many hard disks, it wasn't easy to rip all my CDs from scratch again. If I had rid of them, maybe I wouldn't worry about ripping them again and simply purchase them again in Apple, Amazon or Spotify :))
Truthfully I have found meaningless difference in vinyl to lossy media. For those that do, good for you. But it takes effort, focus, attention and nuance to pick out the differences. Very few have the hearing range to pick up the difference anyway. This is another excuse to go back and spend the same money you did the first time for the fourth or fifth time.
I like your down to earth style.
That’s me. Very humble and still trying to learn at my advanced age. Thanks Kris. Regards, Dave.
Thank you for making the video... I will have to said in my humble opinion, Technics have perfected the linear tracking turntable. I have a SL-7, brought it new when I was in high school. I put the puppy on top of the 3 way JVC speaker I had in high school and I can crank it up and it still play fine without resonance feedback. Although the SL-7 is not working anymore, think the tone arm motor went out and have problem advancing the tone arm, I have two lesser linear tracking Technics TT that still rocks. Of course the top of the line TT when I brought the SL-7 was the Denon flying saucer and the Luxman straight tone arm TT also aesthetically lovely, and the ever faithful Technics DD TT with S tone arms and let not forget the way out of the budget B&O. But the SL-7 and the SL-10 are a league of their own in terms of build quality, amazing sound and they even play sitting vertically.
I've got a SL-5. Sounds great but it's not as nice as the SL-7, SL-10 and SL-15 and it doesn't play upside down.
Got my Pioneer 518 & SX780 back in 70’s, they still work great
Everything has its place and like someone else commentated, having a vinyl collection has a greater sense of involvement for me. I play music at home on a 1980's Technics SL1600 with matching amp, equaliser, cd player and tuner but cd's are mostly in the vehicle. I'm rebuying some old vinyl that went astray over the years. Thank god for Discogs.
My first turntable in mid 1970's was a lowly BIC-920. Meh, it worked. A few years later I bought a Pioneer PL-518 (1979) and still use it today. The BIC cost $60 with cartridge, the Pioneer cost $118 and I added a Shure M91ED. Upgraded in 1980's to an M95HE. Nicely "splained" and quite interesting video, thanks.
BEST REVIEW I'VE HEARD of the golden age and the powerful competition and garage companies
Nicely done explanation of the modern turntable. Video length and content was spot on. I have a 40 year old Technics SL-1500 direct drive unit that works great. Last year I added a new Audio Technica cartridge. The turntable is connected to a Yamaha integrated amp, playing through 30 year old Koss speakers. Very happy with the performance. Enjoyed your video. Thanks for posting. Best regards, Brian.
Your nice comment is very much appreciated. That sounds like a fine vintage system.
Thanks for the walk down memory lane, I still have my 1982 purchased B&O turntable.
Nothing wrong with the design of vintage turntables. Thanks
For about the last 35 years I have been playing my records on a 1959 Motorola console. It's in mint condition like it just came out of the box... it even has the 45 adapter. There are two massive bass speakers on each end, along with a few tweeters and midranges. Turntable turns true with nominal background sound. 'Dark Side of the Moon' sounds phenomenal when I play it, as does 'Quadrophenia', and every other album I spin on it. The AM/FM works, and there are jack plugs in the back, under the back cover that I've plugged in a CD player and a docking station for my iPod. I can even plug my bass in and play through it. Incredible sound, deep, warm and full.
Thank you for this look back. Despite the fact that as an engineer I know without the slightest doubt that the Red Book CD process is lightyears ahead in technology over vinyl phonograph records (you may prefer the sound of records because of the ways the two formats are used differently) there is something pleasing about phonographs that other formats can't match. I loved them since I was a toddler and one of my most prized possessions has always been a phonograph even though I rarely use them anymore. Even as a child I loved record changers, loved watching them operate. It is rare that a machine is more than just another machine anymore and that even goes for cars. But there is something about one certain manufacturer's turntables that pleases me in all aspects including its industrial design, it's technical design, its quality of manufacture, its innovations, and just about everything about it. And that manufacturer was Empire. I own two of them. a 398GA and a 698. There are so many innovations and unique design elements incorporated into them it's hard to list them all. Despite models costing many thousands of times more I wouldn't trade either of them. I also have several top of the the line Shure and Empire cartridges. I have other models from other manufacturers as well, Dual, Sanyo, and some others and they also work well but those two Empires are for me the pinnacle of what was achieved.
This man is definitely an engineer. He used the word phonograph, he has the longest reply and he identified himself as an engineer in the first 20 words. A little late on the announcement, but I still believe him. As someone that fell 3 credits short of a degree in English I have to tell you light year is either two words or hyphenated.
I have a Nakamichi cassette, Nakamichi CD and Project turntable with MC cartridge; records are my first choice. Records must be cared for.
Very absorbing, thanks. I hope this marks the starting point of a long, long series about turntables. There's so much to cover, after all.
Check out my other videos. Thanks.
Thanks for the lesson. I really enjoyed watching the video. 😎
Impressive video man! A great way you covered all basics in chronological context. 👍🏿
Thanks.
Great tutorial. I have a Dual 604 and an Optonica RP 3636. Both direct drives. I love them!
At 4:14 I had that exact AR turntable. I bought it used from my friend and he said it was fairly old then. Worked great. My son has a Micro Seiki turntable that his father in law gave him. He bought it in the 70s for about 700 bucks.
I used to own an AR "Legend" back in the 80s. Sold it when I moved overseas. It was amazing.. Those Micro Seiki's were revolutionary. Thanks for your comments, Dave
watching this as i sit next to about 500 albums.
Turntable sounds much better quality than CDs
Excellent history lesson
Very well done 👏 reviewed ✔
Great intro and tie in to the subject. I've "rediscovered" vinyl after my parents called me up to get all our old records out of the house they were downsizing from. Half the fun is fiddling with the damn things, and having the patience to hear an entire side of an LP. I still stream lots but am slowly rebuying a very few special albums I will take the time to play and listen to carefully on a turntable.
Never stream music
I don't know what the style of the hotel is in, but it sure looks nice. Turntables are great too! I wish we could have seen more of the vintage turntables in use........sigh
Thumbs up for the Wawa hat!
When i started buying and finding phono cartridges. I finally realized, this is art! I have a mofi studiotdeck with a Nagaoka mp-200 now, but always looking for other, different phono cartridges. Also, phono preamps, amps, speakers. So many factors!
Great video. Maybe not intentional but the association of low quality video and audio recording of self with well researched pictures and information make for a great effect.
Thank you for this interesting video. Subscribed and waiting for more :) Built my first turntable some 30 years ago, amplifiers, speakers and so on. I have now worked for 3 years with a tube preamp for 78's. It's an amazing hobby and I'm glad the interest is growing, won't be as big as in the golden age again but anyhow great fun! Thanks again!
When I listen to my old Thorens TD 166 and you can hear the room the artist are in or slight echos, I think “ how can a groove wall have ambience or room lively ness “ it’s incredible
Yes Vinyl is an every day miracle ain’t it 👍 stylus movements just 1/10 the thickness of a human hair then amplified 8000 times. So much opportunity to lose that precious data and yet it can sound incredible on a top flight system. Truly amazing 😲
Regarding your quiet passages ..
Lower level signals, which are 100 times (-40 dB) to 300 times (-50 dB) quieter, and are still part of the cut audio, have proportionately lower deviations - 0.000225 mm to 0.000075 mm (225 nm to 75 nm). These values are significantly lower than the wavelength of visible light, but such small details still have to be accurately transferred through the entire manufacturing process to the final pressed record.
More about the microphones used in the recording.
I've had my TD 166 for 38 years. Still plays as good as it did new.
Brilliant. I love my 1981 LP12... had it since new, will never part with it.
I think turntables and cassette decks both pretty much hit their peak of quality, looks and functionality by the end of the seventies. After that it was all just making them look prettier or making them cheaper to manufacture. For what it's worth, I sold high five between 76 and 83. I saw good Hi-Fi for the masses go from something that was sought out to just being a commodity. For me, it all kind of started with the pioneer sx434. And for turntables it was definitely the ar xa.
I still buy CDs and Will continue as long as they are available.
I still buy vinyl and Will continue as long as they are available.
@@ebabylon
I have about 700 vinyl LP albums, and the equipment to play them that I set up in the 1970s and still play them.
I have a newish U-Turn with the walnut plinth and I put the Grado Black cart on it because that's what I had on my fully auto Technics when I was in HS. I also have an early 1970s Sansui with the original cartridge and I can't help but gravitating to the 50 year old table. Don't make em like they used to...
Like your laid back presentation style. Agree that importance of stylus can be overlooked but it’s important to explain to newbies that there is a hierarchy to turntable performance i.e motor over arm over cartridge. Linn LP12 in the 1970’s was a game changer. Motor cost £500 and yet the entry level Linn cart was about £9. That combination still mullered everything, well until the Pink Triangle arrived at least.
One draw back to vinyl is the static buildup that comes from all different sources. I've had a hard time eliminating that issue, sven with products like the zerostat gun.
I never stopped buying vinyl and CD's. Look at the prices of Prince CD's they are ridiculous
Me too! I still by vinyl and CD's. For the CD's, get a good DAC.
@@AmericanConstellation a separate DAC is overkill. All you need is a good SACD/DVD player
@@PhuckHue2 you are right..I've got some. I've got a lot of audio stuff. But thanks.
@@PhuckHue2 not really,a separate DAC can be a huge benefit
@@roetsj Nope
Hi Very interesting territorial on Vinyl and decks, And I love the architecture of the hotel right at the beginning, I am new to your channel I found you earlier today on older device that I had but had problems watching it, Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing some more interesting subjects, Phil from the moulin France.
I just bought a vinyl yesterday, THE ANIMALS (Best of) . In almost new like mint condition. And keep buying as long as I want.
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I had the AR turntable and the original AR amp. So simple in those days.
I also had the AR turntable. So simple, it only had a cheap on/off switch.
Actually, CD sales bumped up a small bit last year after steady decline over 20 years ..weird, I still buy both
My first record changer was a Garrard SL-55. Had that for a few years , then I upgraded to a Dual 1009F. Currently, I have a H.H. Scott PS-97SV direct drive turntable. Just had it cleaned and lubed for the first time and won't part with it. I also have Garrard SP-20 that's set up to play 78's only.
Technics 1600mk2 automatic, Technics MA1 straight arm automatic, Technics SL-V5 vertical , Technics J33 programmable & Pioneer 518 semiautomatic are my music room favs
Hello, excellent presentation, for me and as far as I can I will use the musical means available to listen to music, I still buy CDs.
When I started to sell my vinyl and began to switch over to CDs it felt wrong. Oh, so wrong !
My records are part of my biography. I love them !
I'm back on vinyl...
10:27 "Who buys CDS?" Me.
Moi aussi! Et je ne vais pas arrêter. Le CD est tellement supérieur au vinyl.
Buy why, im not saying a cd isn't any good im saying its superfluous. For instance I buy all of my music that I purchased on LP and I get a free digital copy with it if I want the CD version of it I just burn it from the digital copy. I get all 3 media types for the price of one thing.
@@horus9220 Tant-mieux ! Si vos CDs vous procurent autant de magie et de bonheur que vos disques vinyles... Ce qui n'est absolument pas le cas de mon côté... Vinyl all the way! The BEST!!!
Me too.
Me!
Had a Thorens direct tracking turntable, also a nice ADC direct drive semi auto turntable - my favorite. Now have a Project with an Ortofon cartridge. Best one I ever had was a moving coil Ortofon.
Great video! I learned a lot.
Look up the SP-02 which was monitored by a Digital Equipment pdp-11 computer and the motor was massive and instantaneous. For the flywheel effect, the weight should be mostly on the outer part of the platter or rim.
You should have a look at the famous EMT turntables - never ever has a product been developed to the end of possibilities like an EMT 950, 948, or 938! This is where the history of turntables ended...
Excellent job!!!
PL-530. Direct, full auto, semi auto, manual. Does it all. Done!
Yes! I had to pl-530 Pioneer with the big wooden base... a great turn table in the late seventies
Love your channel. Just became a subscriber today. Only because of the WaWa hat....jess kiddin. Me. 70's kid. Never got rid of my stupidly insane top of the line Dual 701, Dual CS 5000 or Dual 1209. Still have my crazy good Shure V15 Type RS carts from Radio Shack. Sill have my Ortofon Om 30 fineline for backup. Still have my crazy L.P's from another time. Really old now- not my records, but me. Don't know what I am going to do with all this crap as I get older and one step closer to death. But C.D's??? Man I still love em. 3 of my cars have CD players and I still record vinyl onto my C.D.'s (NAD CD recorder) to play in the car, in my backyard in the summer while by the pool and think the medium is amazing still. Compressed? Well, yeah. Flat? Of course, but what a kick in the pants going down the road in my Challenger listening to The Who's Tommy with pop's, snaps and all. Let's cut C.D.'s come slack, they sure beat that hissing of download music that the radios play.
I remember a major hi-fi magazine, I think it was Stereo Review did an article where they gave a handful of their audiophile experts different price points to put together the best system. Speakers, receivers, amps, turn tables, cartridges..... From the $1,000 budget on up to the "the sky is the limit" budget, most picked the Shure V-15 as their cartridge of choice. Impressive as even then in the early 80s there were exotic audiophile cartridges that cost thousands of dollars.
This was a wonderful tutorial on the beloved turntable.
Very well done. I have used a combo of S shaped (actually owned a technics sl 1200 before it was stolen), and a dual cs 608, that too was stolen. The latter was Duals only direct drive 3 speed player. Currently, I bough a never opened Dual Cs 708-q and a Lafayette T-4000.
To set the record straight, the first 3 point suspended (platter/tonearm combo) turntable was the 1955 H.H. Scott 710-A with a gear drive. And the first 3 point suspended belt driven turntable was the 1958 Stromberg Carlson Perfectempo with a uni-pivot tonearm. This TT was what the likes of AR, Thorens, Lynn built upon.
You missed the high point of turntables!
The amazing EMT 950 wide body. Favoured by the BBC and many other radio stations in Europe when new it cost as much as a comfortable family home in London. Although the Thorens TD524 was a skinned down version of the narrow body and also made by EMT (Elektro Mess Technik Wilhelm Franz KG).
The BBC used Technics SP10s for their travelling road shows. You wouldn't want to hump a 150kg (330lb) EMT around!
Funny that now, after dealing with the inconveniences of vinyl, the extreme care that must be taken to extract the best sound out of them, and the absolute poor sound you get out of the really cheap imported record players, young people are now discovering cassettes. You can get that great vinyl sound plus convenience and portability by having a friend with a good system record your favorite LP onto a tape and be amazed at how good they sound (not as good as vinyl, but better than streaming). Those of us who lived through the first phase can see where this is headed, if the music industry would just NOT ruin music with poor engineering, because CDs are ready to make a comeback. Well engineered music sounds amazing on CDs, without the shortcomings of cheap record players or cassettes, or the expense of really good turntables. And other than scratching them, you can't ruin a CD by playing it on one of those cheap import players. The music industry needs to bring back proper engineering, dynamic range, and proper tonal balance, and bring back CDs! I promise to keep my turntables and vinyl and still buy new vinyl LPs too, just because they're cool, but CDs also, please!
Do you remember reel to reel tapes?
Lurker I agree with your comments about need for music industry to improve on the quality of product and need for good mastering in particular. I enjoy digital especially the hi Rez formats such as DVD Audio SACD etc, but even CD can sound really good too. An example of truly fantastic mastering is Stockfisch records. I have both digital and Vinyl product and it’s just fantastic what’s possible.
A can heartily recommend “roadhouses and automobiles” vinyl LP which is widely used at hifi shows. Also a truly fantastic DVD “sara K” the Nautilus tour. Video is average but the SQ is stunning.
I enjoy the characteristic “tapey” sound of cassette and like you find I often prefer recorded CD than the CD itself. Having said that Elcaset
and R-R are in an altogether different league with an effortless sound quality.
I’m a little frustrated at times by decisions made by the music industry. They monumentally messed up DVD Audio abs SACD 5.1 at a time when people were getting into hone cinema so already had the amps and speakers. I mean I understand why quadraphonic failed but how could they manage to fail with DVD Audio/SACD when you just had to hear it and you wanted it. Virgin records stores at one time had a separate listening room for Classical music - if only they had also used it for surround sound demos. I’m also frustrated by the industries marketing people who think picture discs and coloured vinyl is a good idea. Black vinyl sounds good whilst Coloured Vinyl is not as good. There is something of a revival going on with Vinyl but there are far fewer pressing plants now then there were in the past and the lead time in getting a new album pressed can be 6 months. I’m finding quality problems due to the rush to get product out the door. I often receive warped records because they remoulded it too quickly in their hast. I’ve even had problems with vinyl from specialists like Mobile Fidelity.
180gms does not automatically translate to good SQ , it’s all about the mastering.
Vinyl is an everyday miracle that can give amazing SQ and worth the ritual that comes with it so please respect the vinyl buyer and don’t sacrifice quality control along the way.
We are paying top money for it after all.
@@AmigaA-or2hj Yes, I remember reel to reel audio, video, and computer tapes!
Great videos!! glad I found you. Vinyl is king , CDs are great but to often over compressed in the mix, I personally like cassette tapes and have several very nice decks to record and play them. I also have a nice old reel to reel that is magnificent. So how needs streaming? Lots of folks and that's fine with me. All the stuff I like is getting far to expensive fast enough anyway! Prices of records are not really anymore expensive when you factor inflation.
very pleasant and interesting video, thank you very much!
I have a turntable and used to collect records..I may buy more records in the future,but these days,when I buy music,I prefer the CD format...To me,they just sound better...and don`t take up as much room.
I still buy CD's
Very interesting video thank you for sharing. The vinyl revival is both good and bad. Bad because new records are silly expensive but good as my collection is now quite valuable and also CD’s can be bought very cheap. Another downside is that good quality vintage turntables are now extremely expensive.
I still buy CDs, but have a lot of vinyl from the past which I sometimes play. I don't miss the crackles and pops, limited side time, dodgey track selection, dust and warping or just plain badly cut vinyl, and the ridiculous price of vinyl these days.
I used to think that. Not anymore. Love my records.
Well done, however I can’t totally agree with your assessment of linear Tracking Turntables, I had used a Rabco ST4 for many years with no issues and with great audio performance. Being in pro audio as an engineer this design was the preference of many audio professionals.
Nothing wrong with linear. Much more complex and expensive devices than radial. That’s why you don’t see many anymore. Industry has learned to live happily with compromises. Thx.
My favorite turn tables were the Technics direct drive models.
Me too.
You and I think about every other person in the Vintage Market
I also like the Denon DD models.
Yep. Bought my sl1210mk2 new in 2010. Won't change it. Fantastic turntable.
Shocker 🙄
You need to stretch that out to 1988 to include all the Acoustic Research incarnations
I use a Shure R1000 cartridge from 1982. New needle makes it sound just fine on the Miracord turntable
We do have a special time to get low production high quality vinyl now though and the "retro" tables and arms now are going up as profit margin is the only important component
a men brother cd's suck thanks for posting this .
for me i have been in love with records my entire life ny3rd favorite attraction since 3 years of age now almost 60 years young.
I hear you, Alex. When I was a younger fella we had to be inventive, we built our own amps and scavenged the turntables out of wrecked consoles and got them working again. Sometimes the music didn't sound so good be we got better as we went along. And now, imagine, a good vinyl costing upward of $30, wow. But I still but them over CD's
i hear you, Alex
I loved vinyl and keep it, but since digital I never came back
I used to live in an old house with hardwood floors that picked up every bump when you walked by it, etc. I started putting my turntable on a board I suspended from the ceiling with ropes.
A couple of things to chime in with...tonearms-I still use my Garrard SL-95B (with a V-15) and one thing they had was anti skating control. If you can get the adjustments right, you can easily use a good bit less than 1 gram tracking weight and still have less "skipping". ........On CD's. I still use them because they are better than cassette deck to record on to. With the Sony RCD-W100C you can record vinyl direct to CD. Luckily I have a car old enough to have a factory CD player, and a laptop old enough to have the CD. You can still buy blank CD's and make your own "mix tape".
True about the Shure cart.
No way that I'm going back to cassettes. I own CDs, but never listen to them. Not interested in going back and burning CDs either. That's so 2003. Streaming CD quality Tidal is where it's at now. My mix tape is a playlist I make in Tidal. Much easier. Thanks for your comments. Dave
Nice video and channel, looking forward so seeing the well deserved growth in your channal
I love my late 50's/early 60's Thorens TD-124 equipped with a SME 3012 tonearm. (The 12 means 12" instead of the common 9". This means less distorsion.
Grado 681 EEE cartridge on my Technics SL-20 turntable was great! Companies nowadays just don’t know how to make turntables... damped cueing, auto return or lift at the end of a record, changing speed by flipping a switch instead of changing a belt. I will continue to buy LPs AND CDs AND Stream while these formats are available... why not? BTW if you know of any CLASSICAL MUSIC record collections that need a good home, I am always looking... modern record resurgence stores usually don’t carry Classical Music.
I have lots of classical music.
681EEE is a Stanton cartridge, not Grado. Grado used colors like Gold, Silver and Black. I had a 681EEE on my Dual 704. Excellent cartridge!
I'd argue that the golden age of turntables is right now! Never has there been so many choices, at so many price levels, with so much quality and performance value, and so much accessible information to help the buyer make their decision. Vinyl quality is generally better too. There was period in the 70's where the record companies were trying to optimize profits by pressing thinner records with questionable quality vinyl. The result was that I was returning about 50% of what I bought because it was too warped to play, or damaged in some other way. Good riddance to all that! Today's options are far better - we're living in the golden age right now!
Records and turntables will never be the dominant medium again. Genuine innovation and invention in vinyl record playback ended decades ago. Everything new today is based on old principles and engineering. There were many more turntable options 40+ years ago than today. It was a different time indeed.
@@MODAC Having been a young audiophile in the 60's & 70's, I disagree with your assertion. Of course today's devices are just refinements! The media hasn't fundamentally changed, so what other action besides refining the playback technology is possible? But the shear number of quality devices from good manufacturers has never been higher. Not talking about some crap console of the past that was more a furniture statement than a dedicated audio product. Or some almost-toy record player that the kids would get for Christmas. But quality devices made by companies that exist solely in the audiophile niche. That scenario has never been better. Look for some of the videos of audio shows from the last few years (Michael Fremer is a good place to start) here on TH-cam and see hour after hour of turntable and supporting devices available worldwide from a huge number of audiophile-dedicated companies, large and small. It wasn't this good for real audiophiles in the 60's or 70's - I was there.
I own a rather rare 1981 Technics SL1610MK2 Quartz, which is still in perfect working order and condition and sounds amazing! I also use a modern Rega RP1 which though fully manual also sounds amazing! I still buy CD's as well as vinyl as I think both formats still have their good and bad points. I have vinyl records that sound way better than their CD counterparts and also CD's that sound better than the original vinyl release. Its all down to how they were recorded and subsequently mastered. Many so called remastered CD's sound awful. Yet for example the CD re master of 'Hotel California' sounds way better than the vinyl re issue. By the same token the recent re issue of Supertramps 'Crime of the Century' on vinyl easily beats the earlier CD release for sound quality.
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Excellent video. Explained with detail, yet with simplicity. I am running a Dual 721 direct drive and also use a vintage Shure V15 Type III similar to yours at 8:58 , but about 5 years older. QUESTION for you....when it comes to the replacement stylus, VN35, what have you found to be the best replacement stylus in the moderately priced range? True originals are super pricey. Yet, I'm hesitant on the cheaper, off-brand options. Any experience, insight or advice? I tend to go with a standard elliptical stylus.
I went to LP Tunes and bought the Jico replacement stylus for Shure Super Track Plus cartridge for $80. Sound very good.
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I too remember my father playing stacks of records when growing up in the early 70's most of the scratches that were found on record were caused by him when he would flip them to play second side I could here sliding the LP and hear them rubbing and getting scuffed I didn't know better at the time but I was n brainwashed and became and audiofool oops!! Audiophile I have records from early 70 's that are scratch free but recently I started to restore several BSR changers also. a Garard TT changer and I have A Dual 1209 TT changer which I fixed recently until my right channel went out still trying to find the cause but when I installed better Cartridges the sound was fantastic and I used several of these changers and I have not found any scratches on them yet they work like clock work they never miss the target so why were they hated by audiophiles I can understand a changer with a ceramic cart the sound is not that good but other changers had magnetic cart and I switched out a better cart to a changer and it's great I have 2 manual TT's they ok but after working hard at work I like to relax to records and just as I start to relax The record ends and I got to get up to change it and when they charge 3to 400 dollars or more for a manual TT that's going too far but I loved vid and your TT was the best looking I ever saw JRo
Great video, but , I disagree with one thing, CD's aren't dead & will continue to be a format choice. I love vinyl, but I have a big CD collection too, & still buy CD's every now & then.....
Well, I have started buying them very cheap at thrift stores now. 25 cents to a dollar each!
I'm hoping for 78s to come back. At least a better selection of 78 stylus types :-)
My mom just got about 50 old 78s that were my grandpa's...
I have hundreds of 78s and I would play them on my Fidelity HF42 with the flip over stylus. Occasionally, I would play them on a wind up gramophone.
I use South Street Service Co. in Southhold NY to restore and maintain my turntables. Call them with your problems.
I prefer the much newer ones at the top, since that many of the old ones are only good value and sit pretty much on the sound not giving any proper black level/3d/layering/movement. I like more when you can reveal 10x more detail and then on top of that there isn't a single pop or crackle or hint of noise. Stuff like the Audio Note tt3 and Kronos.
I still have my Marantz CD 52.
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Hey, thanks Joseph!
I like cds
Good and bad mastering for both, that's all
My Thorens TD166 mk2 has outlived 2 NAD CD players and will most likely outlive a third.
I had one of those in the 1980s.
Remember the variant of the S arm, the J arm, which accomplished the same thing.
Awesome! i-vinyl also.
Vinyl's are made for human ear vibration & that's why this is almost impossible to beat them it's physical. Final.
Vinyl has the actual ANALOG undulations that humans hear with ANALOG ears, while CDs provide a DESCRIPTION of the music as described by a computer. So analog is like looking at a PHOTO versus someone describing an image. Long live vinyl !!!
@@TheOzthewiz 10-4. This absolutely true sire!
@@marvinmartian7281 I totally agree with ojars perfectly stated comparison of analog vs. digital sound characterization.
Digital ends in analog reconstruction in order to ear sound