*PC , XBOX & SWITCH PLAYERS* This method does not work for your version of the game. There are still ways to manipulate the RNG, but these are much tricker. This video works for the PS4 version only.
I didn't CLOSE GAME before loading Rex save!!! That's the ticket! Worked within 7 minutes when I did it like he said. At least I did a troubleshoot to see if it was me or current patch I guess? Maybe? 😇😅
Literally got 4 in like 5-7 minutes. started noticing all of Reks cures is literally the exact same order lol. Thanks a lot, now I can "take the fun out of the game" as people complain about. I'm just excited it works
Thank you very much for creating this video. This method work for me on Sep 18, 2018 during my first try. I got the number sequence within 10 cures too! Will try to obtain 3. Edit: Yeah it took me less than 10 min to get 3. Thank you so much!
After watching this, decided to give it a try, had laar or whatever his name in the party as a guest, needless to say, after making the reks save and getting the actual file to the auto save on the airship. Did the combo 88 97 90, took Maybe 30 seconds to get that combo on high speed 4, exited out went straight up, was the chest, waiting till he got up on the stairs for the forth time. Bam got the bow. Note you need to count the first time you pass him running to the chest as well, first try no warm up
Carnage Sensation thanks for the tip about passing the man. I missed it first time I watched the video. Will try this again once I get back in from work. Hopefully its still working. Note to anyone that doesn't get the numbers....save the reeks file, then COMPLETELY exit the game back to desktop the restart the game. I spent 2.5hrs trying to get the number chain only to find I hadn't quit out and restarted. When I did I had the chain within 1 minute!
5/5/2020 still works! Now time to get some more! Lol! Edit! I got 6 and I couldn’t be happier, now time to continue with the story! Appreciate the one who found this out, also appreciate you who uploaded for all of us!
Jake B I did too at first, I was so excited I was doing it too soon. Just wait til he’s up the stairs already and turns to our left (his right) a bit, your sure to get it then.
Jake B Lol! Yeah it’s up to you. I played the game and got quite far in it the real way years ago on the PS2 version so I finally wanted to beat this game so I used the heck out of those invisible bows for all party members. The game was brutal to me back in the day and so it felt good to reverse that!
I know I am really late to this but I managed to get three of these bows today on PS5 with the help of this video (28/11/2022). Can’t thank you enough for it, really clear and I also found the whole method of manipulating RNG really interesting. Never knew you could do this in FF12 until now, great video! :)
Still works in quarentimes 2020, you're the best. Can't stress enough how much you need to switch off your internet, the numbers wouldn't ping for ages for me then I switched off the internet and it worked 3 times (got timing wrong on runner twice). You're amazing man.
OMG THIS 100% worked! My jaw literally dropped when I did this on my first try! Thank you and whomever discovered this method. Absolutely genius and fantastic!
Just wanted to pitch in and verify. Another commenter said he thought perhaps the fact that his Reks' HP/MP was a couple off from the video's, it might be a problem. My mana is off by 2 and I was still successful (I think the 23 magic power is all that matters). Also, other commenters are correct in that if you don't get the heal sequence in a couple of minutes, do a hard restart (close the application) to put yourself in another sequence rotation. Very successful -- before I read those comments, I'd sat there for almost an hour trying. Knowing that trick, I get the sequence consistently and without stress. Also the timing with the guy reaching the top of the stairs is critical. Missed it the first time by a split second and got gil -- every time I get it dead on, I get Seitengrat. Would also like to confirm this is still 100% after patch 1.02. And thank you for sharing, Fuzz.
to get the exact same cure numbers your Reek needs to also have 42 MP. I tried with a Reek that had only 38 MP and I did not get the correct order for nearly an half hour. If you start a new game and your reek does not have 42 MP, then close the application via PS4 menu, and start it again and start a new game. btw, for 40 MP the cure numbers are "97 94 95". after I found this out I got the Bow two times in a row on first try. just keep in mind, the MP value matters. depending on the MP value you will get the cure numbers in different orders.
As of March 15, 2018 this method has worked for me. 3x in a row after trying various other methods. Side note-- I had Reddas in my party when I did this, still worked fine if anyone is curious. Good luck!!
March 7th, 2020 - PS4 - 2nd try using 97-94-95 + Father/Son method I didn't get a chance to spawn 88-97-90 or I would have tried that too. I'm sure that one works as well. This is awesome, thanks OP.
If you're trying this but you dont get it you could be one or two problems: 1) you're counting the number of times the guy comes up incorrectly. In the video you only see him come up three times but the video guy counts to 4. Video just doesnt show the first time and you dont see it either unless you just look for him. So when you're running up to the chest counts as 1. 2) you could be opening the chest TOO quickly. If you're trying to account for the input lag to your ps4 or xbox, in a real world scenario you'd have to press the button WHILE the guy is coming up the last set of steps so that he stops right at the top of the stairs. But this is WRONG. The game actually gives you a LOT of time to open the chest - a good half second if not more. So just take it easy and wait for the guy to fully make it to the top of the stairs before you open the chest.
Still working on PS5 as of 4/28/24!! Can't thank you enough, this tutorial was amazingly simple!! You're the best, I just got the bow for every party member!! 🐾💙
Dude. I started following you from your Kingdom Hearts videos, and now, here you are helping me with FFXII. You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. Thank you for the info.👍
Thank you sooooo much! I had trouble with the healing numbers but read that you can use 97 94 95 too, which worked for me after every 5-10 heals. personally I found it more easy to combine this spawn trick with the running kid timing.
Can confirm these numbers are WAY easier for me to get too - three chests in 5 minutes. Edit: More information - when you get the chest to spawn this way, you can't watch the man as stated in the video - I only had luck watching the boy that runs back and forth on the side of the upper deck. When he stops at his father the 4th time hit the button.
FOr me the man works better than the child, when you reach the chest the man already went up the stair once, so you need to count 3 more time, the man is also more lenient when pressing the button when he's up the stairs.
Funny how everyone says they've done it in seconds or minutes and I've tried both combinations for over an hour on 2 separate occasions and can't even get 2 numbers in a row.......I can't even barely get an 88 or 97 first
If you can't get the number combinations in the first like 20 tries, just restart the application and try anew. In my experience the random number generator changes with a different set every restart.
I can say that as of today June 7, 2019. Version 1.07, Spanish language and on a physical copy of the game on a PS4 Slim. This method worked incredibly nice! Thank you for showing this dude, i can finally sleep well :)
It works still, first two tries with this method and literally as soon as the guys feet hit the top of the stairs planted firmly on the ground the fourth time open it, I was skeptical but it really works.
WORKED! had trouble getting the 88 97 90 to show, tried for about 20-25 minutes and was losing my mind, read a comment about closing out the game entirely back to the PS dashboard and reloading the save file, did exactly that and then got it on my 4th MP replenish and got the bow first try! i've watched quite a few of your guide videos since i started playing FF12 and you've been a huge help!!
Okay, it's official you have saved my mind!!! I tried so many dumb methods to do this. I tried the original version, I tried waiting for 20 seconds and then exiting back into the lounge like Mage Masher had, I tried the 32 steps method, I tried the 7 zones in and out, and I spent 14 hours straight trying to get this bow. Your method is the only one that has consistently worked. Thank you thank you thank you. I am subscribing on all of my TH-cam channels.
I did exactly as you did in the video, same rng numbers from the Cure spell, Diamond Armlet equipped and the dude coming up the stairs a 4th time. Conclusion: it does work 100% of the time!
Okay so, I don't normally comment on videos at all, but, I just have to say that I got three bows within thirty minutes. Thank you for showing us this!!!!!!!
I couldn’t get the sequence 88 97 90 for the longest time, but after closing the application from the PS4 menu and trying again it worked right away! I also found it worked using the sequence 97 94 95, then waiting for the boy to talk to his Dad four times, opening the invisible chest on the 4th trip right when he stops to talk to his Dad. I waited 20 seconds at the door of the sky deck before going up the stairs on the 97 94 95 sequence with the boy/Dad timing. The key for me was knowing the boy talked to his Dad as I was coming up the stairs which meant I needed to count 3 additional trips from that point. If you let him go a 5th time you get the dreaded knot of rust! After I figured that out I was able to get 6 Seitengrat’s in about 15 minutes without any issues! Thanks for the great video Fuzz, I am subscribing to your channel for sure now and I’ll be watching a lot of your FF12 videos for sure. :)
I just got the game for Xbox one x, I finally got the numbers, exited to the main menu and loaded my save file and the chest didn't spawn, I hope this method works on Xbox one but so far I might be sool
27/06/2019....still work. If ur like me after trying the reks heal combo about 2min and not getting either number combinations just completely restart application and try again. Did that on my first restart and boom. 2nd the 4 count of the dude going up and down the stairs start when your approaching him which counts as one...now i'ma go 1 shot everything:)
AWESOME!!!!!!! I tried the other timing method and never got the chest to even show up. Got the bow the very first time I tried with this method. THANK YOU!
I can guarantee that today, 11/03/2019 this method works, 100%. I was at first very skeptic since I tried and tried and tried, like 50 times the previous one Fuzz explained, but I had no success. This one works. I got the second time I tried!! I got two in 10 minutes ( I thought the would sell well but Seitengrat is worth 0 guil xD) Thank you soooo much!!!
I played this game on the ps2 and loved it!, always had troubles getting the rare weapons and never gotten the seitengrat!, this method really really works! I'm following your walkthrough guide as well and playing along with the remastered game. Thank u for this video and your walkthrough!
After a lot of trial and error trying various methods to get the Seitengrat bow. Me and my son eventually got 3 in within a matter of minutes. The 88,97 90 rng sequence wasn't working on our ps4 console, and we tried the 97,94,95 sequence instead , and on our first try, we landed the invisible chest Seitengrat first time. We repeated the sequence to more times, and again, we landed the legendary bow. My take away from all of the trial and error is that if one sequence doesn't work, chances are the next sequence might. Thanks, Si, for the help.
I've been trying for the past two hours - I get the right healing numbers - I get the invisible chest to show up - I just can't get the timing right to get the bow
Seriously? Everyone I watch do this gets the right combination in like a few minutes. I did this shit for hours off and on and not once got the right combo.
Chris Smith. I have the worst of luck with these things normally and I was pretty skeptical at first, but managed to get 3 within a few minutes. Just make sure that you follow everything to the letter. Make sure everyone around the save crystal is dead and don't save at the save crystal; only use it to replenish your MP. Also make sure that before starting this step you have completely closed the game (not just exited to the main PS screen). It's probably just psycological, but I found standing near the save crystal just to the right worked best. But it should work within a few minutes. If not, restart your game (or even maybe your console?)
FINALLY!!!!! I confirm this method STILL works in 2022!. After two days of doing all other methods, this one worked and under 30 minutes ( 5 chest opens cause my timing was off). Thanks man for the content!
A little late, but these methods comes from PS2. There were a lot of methods for manipulate RNG and I guess this thing works the same for Zodiac Age. They just mess with the numbers in the game archives. In the end, RNG are not other but commands that activate or deactivate specific results at calculations for the game that leads to get something or other thing.
No because the Switch version doesn’t have static RNG so the RNG is reset every screen load. GameFAQs users are working on a workaround. In the meantime you have to contend with that 1/100 chance chest spawn. Basically it’s like the PC version but without the cheat mode. As for the "man on the stairs" step I actually did get one doing that but I think I was just super lucky because every other attempt failed, and I made sure I had the man screenshot-perfect.
Origin777 yes absolutely. i literally just found this video 30 mins ago, followed the method precisely, and now my party is fully stacked with 6x bows. Other people in the comments have mentioned a few things i’ll reiterate here for you, since the rng manipulation trick worked every single time for me but it took several times for me to get the timing right on when to open the chest. Make sure you count the NPC the first time you encounter him on your way up the stairs (you pass him while he’s on the stairs, and by the time you reach the chest and angle the camera appropriately to watch the NPC, he’ll be on top of the steps for the first of those four times). The fourth time he comes up the steps, open the chest directly as he makes his left turn. My issue was opening the chest the moment he got to the top of the steps (but before beginning to turn direction), which ended up giving me 10gil twice. The timing on it doesn’t even need to be EXACTLY where you see it in this video; i still got the bow by opening the chest a half second or so after. From my experience, it’s all about the NPC’s fourth stair ascension + him turning left to begin walking to the railing he stands at whilst not moving up and down the steps. Lastly, with regard to the RNG manipulation curing chains of 88, 97, and 90 on your Reks save file, i believe the first time you utilize it you’re guaranteed to get those three numbers in correct order pretty quickly. However, if you happen to mess up the timing of opening the chest upon loading your main save on the airship (getting gil or a knot of rust instead of the bow), make sure to completely exit out of the application before reloading the Reks file. Otherwise, it was impossible for me to get the curing chain combo i needed. Same rule applies to getting multiple bows; as soon as you get one, exit the airship deck and re-enter it once more (so as to overwrite the previous quick save file), completely close down the application, reopen it and then load your Reks file. This will enable you to get the sequence of cures again easily, exit to main screen, reload back to airdeck, and get another bow.
Wanted to add 3 major notes:Confirmed working on version 1.05. If not getting the numbers right away, close the game entirely and get a new sequence going.Timing for stair guy is roughly when his foot hits the green top
Fuzz I have watched so many of your videos I hear your voice in my head! This worked as of 2/29/2020 using this exact technique just make sure as you go up the stairs towards the chest that you count the man already being on his first trip. So count 3 more full trips and BAM...beautiful bow!
Seems like the chances of getting 88, 97 and 90 in a row are about as high as trying to get the weapon without any tricks. Stood there for over an hour and I couldn't even get 88 and 97.
Just give me the bow for killing Omega or something. I shouldn't have to pat my head, jump up and down 3 times and give a reach around to a spider monkey to get a weapon 😀
Sony: Oh yes you will! If we give you the possiblity to have a hidden super weapon and/or equipment in *our* games you best be giving those reacharounds to those spider monkeys or else!
4/29/20 Worked for me! Got the chest to spawn every time but did take a few times to get the timing right. As long as the chest spawns you're doing it right
2020 pc cheat engine TZA method still works and the bow is extremely powerful and makes the game stupidly easy. If you wanna have a challenge I recommend you never use this bow for your full gameplay. Makes the zodiac spear from original FF12 PS2 look like nothing.
Worked perfectly today 9 March 2020! Got 10 Gil the first 2 times. Then I realized, that i pressed just a bit too early, so the guy was just not quite completely up the stairs. So for all having the same issues, press x when the guy has both feet on the ground and has cleared the stairs completely. Thank you mate! Great stuff!
Had no memory of how to do this but just tried this on my new playthrough after completing about everything else in the game except gathering the invisible weapons and it worked on the first try. Excellent!
Hey thanks for the video man!! I just tried it with an old file, quickly did the reks bit just to see if it works and first try!! I even got the 88 97 90 on my first 3 cures as well, I’m never normally that lucky. Thanks again
Nice! ... i confirm this works 30/11/2020 First it took me 15min without getting the numbers 88.97.90 in order until i saw a comment telling that bein offline helps. I disconnected my ps4 reload again and got the numbers in the right order in less the 4min.
On 30 seconds method I’ve spent several hours and didn’t get. I did this one in 40 minutes and got 6 in a row. This is really guarantee, you have my respect bro, thanks to put the effort to bring this to us
It worked for me. I thank you FuzzFingerGaming for this loop-trick. If it us of any use to anyone, the sequence of healing points numbers with reks maybe is related to the time in the game. At was ot minute 08. And the guy running up the stairs wasn't already heading to the left, but was just with two feet in the upper deck, so it is probably a matter of one whole second, not a super high precise moment. Thank you again. I use sequence 88-97-90 anyway, like the video and my party was with 3 members, so nothing unusual. Hope everyone can get this annoying bow.
*IMPORTANT FOR PC PLAYERS* - Sadly, the RNG values are further into the sequence with the PC version of the game, so the healing number sequence in this video almost certainly won't appear. It has been calculated that the RNG advances every 1.6 seconds on the airship but it just needs to be worked into the number sequence for Reks' healing. I will make a new video as soon as there is a working method. If you're playing on PS4, then everything should still be fine. *EDIT (For PC players only)* Afer some testing, it seems there is some other factor that determines where in the number sequence Reks begins his healing numbers. Ie, you can load your Reks save file twice and be in a completely difference location of the healing sequence. It may be based on clock time or something else entirely. In other words, it may not be possible to manipulate the RNG with the PC version of the game.
I wonder if the loot timing once the chest spawns has changed as well. I didn't play the PS4 version, so I have very little practice, but I felt like messing with it this morning. I got 3 "natural" spawns of the chest by zoning, but the man on the stairs method never worked for me. I felt good about my timing - it looked just like the video - but I got gil every single time. (Fortunately, spawning the 3 chests only took about 10 minutes. Very lucky, that.) Does the man on the stairs timing work for "natural" spawns of the chest, or does that only work for manipulated spawns? Or for fresh loads of an auto-save vs. zoning in? My understanding was the Reks method was just to force the chest to spawn and had nothing to do with what you actually get in the chest.
Unfortunately the Reks healing sequence affects all the RNG, including the bow spawning in the chest. The timing when opening is just part of that forced manipulation but not the only thing (you still need the correct numbers).
Thanks! I got a Reks Savefile where these numbers show off immediately. And this everytime! This method works perfectly! I got the Bow on my second try (messed up the timing on opening the chest). Thanks for this awesome Guide!
still works perfectly as of april 6 2020! had to close and reopen the game twice cause reks' combo wouldn't come up but once it did i got 3 seitengrats without a problem! thank you so much for this video!!
Thank u toke a couple of try’s for the timing up the stairs but I got it! the game designers are crazy but I bet they never believed someone even crazier would spend countless hours mapping out the rng system!!! Probs to u guys for letting the rest of us know
I got it! Thank you so much! I actually got the 88, 97, 90 numbers on my first attempt but got the timing wrong with the guy walking up the stairs. Then when I finally managed to get the three number combo again, I got it on my second try. Excited to see how it'll work, though I'm in late game so it might not do that much. But still really happy that I got it!
very nearly saved over my main save game again, made 2 saves just in case before I made the reks one, thank god, couldn't deal with starting over again, but not getting the numbers, am gonna keep on trying, thanks for such simple walkthroughs
Confirmed still working 23/12/2020 - Had the problem of the 88 97 90not showing on Reks, going directly out of the game and back in got the sequence to show. Thanks for the guide!
I want to say thank you so very much! It took some practice to get the timing right, and the first time I hit the x button at the right time, but it did not loot the chest because I wasn't close enough... but I got it!!! Anyone trying this make sure you are indeed close enough to loot the chest. (I pushed him against the chest as I hit the x button to loot) Awesome video!!! I cannot thank you enough for my new weapon!
*PC , XBOX & SWITCH PLAYERS* This method does not work for your version of the game. There are still ways to manipulate the RNG, but these are much tricker. This video works for the PS4 version only.
Thx buddy,it works!
Greetings from Russia!=)
Does it work on the switch version?
What about Xbox.
oh crap why didnt i read the comments earlier, i already have everything setup hahaha
For anyone still enjoying this game on a PS5 during lockdown. I can confirm this still works as of 14/2/2021, cheers for the content Fuzz!
Game pass? 😂👋
Just did this today! 1/4/22
Yup, just used it. Worked 1st try. 1/19/22
As of 5/12/22 I don't think the box is here... I didn't run into anything 😰😓😭
I didn't CLOSE GAME before loading Rex save!!! That's the ticket! Worked within 7 minutes when I did it like he said. At least I did a troubleshoot to see if it was me or current patch I guess? Maybe? 😇😅
Honestly can't believe it but diligently followed the instructions and got the Seitengrat 1st try, great guide mate ,absolutely fantastic!
Literally got 4 in like 5-7 minutes. started noticing all of Reks cures is literally the exact same order lol. Thanks a lot, now I can "take the fun out of the game" as people complain about. I'm just excited it works
Thank you very much for creating this video. This method work for me on Sep 18, 2018 during my first try. I got the number sequence within 10 cures too! Will try to obtain 3.
Edit: Yeah it took me less than 10 min to get 3. Thank you so much!
After watching this, decided to give it a try, had laar or whatever his name in the party as a guest, needless to say, after making the reks save and getting the actual file to the auto save on the airship. Did the combo 88 97 90, took Maybe 30 seconds to get that combo on high speed 4, exited out went straight up, was the chest, waiting till he got up on the stairs for the forth time. Bam got the bow. Note you need to count the first time you pass him running to the chest as well, first try no warm up
Carnage Sensation thanks for the tip about passing the man. I missed it first time I watched the video. Will try this again once I get back in from work. Hopefully its still working. Note to anyone that doesn't get the numbers....save the reeks file, then COMPLETELY exit the game back to desktop the restart the game. I spent 2.5hrs trying to get the number chain only to find I hadn't quit out and restarted. When I did I had the chain within 1 minute!
Edit: tried this today after work...3 out of 3. Totally happy. Thank you !
5/5/2020 still works! Now time to get some more! Lol!
Edit! I got 6 and I couldn’t be happier, now time to continue with the story! Appreciate the one who found this out, also appreciate you who uploaded for all of us!
I'm getting the chest to spawn no problem. Just struggling with the timing.
Jake B I did too at first, I was so excited I was doing it too soon. Just wait til he’s up the stairs already and turns to our left (his right) a bit, your sure to get it then.
@@JMrealgamer got it on the third or 4th try. Then the next 5 lol. I'm not really going to use them until I get to hell wyrm and yiazamat.
Jake B Lol! Yeah it’s up to you. I played the game and got quite far in it the real way years ago on the PS2 version so I finally wanted to beat this game so I used the heck out of those invisible bows for all party members. The game was brutal to me back in the day and so it felt good to reverse that!
Hi why I dint have the invisible blocking chest it is something wrong ?
Got it ALMOST on my first try. Had to reload my Reks save once, as the Cure combo just wasn't showing up. But it absolutely works.
same, did it today and got the cures first try
Why you guys have trial mode in ff12?
@@eugenemanuelmarcha614 not sure on your question. trial mode is just basicly the tower from mortal kombat
I know I am really late to this but I managed to get three of these bows today on PS5 with the help of this video (28/11/2022). Can’t thank you enough for it, really clear and I also found the whole method of manipulating RNG really interesting. Never knew you could do this in FF12 until now, great video! :)
Let me know please I'm trying ugh it's so hard
Still works in quarentimes 2020, you're the best. Can't stress enough how much you need to switch off your internet, the numbers wouldn't ping for ages for me then I switched off the internet and it worked 3 times (got timing wrong on runner twice). You're amazing man.
OMG THIS 100% worked! My jaw literally dropped when I did this on my first try! Thank you and whomever discovered this method. Absolutely genius and fantastic!
Just wanted to pitch in and verify. Another commenter said he thought perhaps the fact that his Reks' HP/MP was a couple off from the video's, it might be a problem. My mana is off by 2 and I was still successful (I think the 23 magic power is all that matters). Also, other commenters are correct in that if you don't get the heal sequence in a couple of minutes, do a hard restart (close the application) to put yourself in another sequence rotation. Very successful -- before I read those comments, I'd sat there for almost an hour trying. Knowing that trick, I get the sequence consistently and without stress. Also the timing with the guy reaching the top of the stairs is critical. Missed it the first time by a split second and got gil -- every time I get it dead on, I get Seitengrat. Would also like to confirm this is still 100% after patch 1.02. And thank you for sharing, Fuzz.
Some great bits of info, thanks Orcael and congrats on your Seitengrats! Fuzz.
Had the exact same problem. Spent an hour trying to get the numbers. Reset the game and started getting them instantly.
I'm trying it's not working I can't get 88,97 and 90 ugh
to get the exact same cure numbers your Reek needs to also have 42 MP. I tried with a Reek that had only 38 MP and I did not get the correct order for nearly an half hour. If you start a new game and your reek does not have 42 MP, then close the application via PS4 menu, and start it again and start a new game. btw, for 40 MP the cure numbers are "97 94 95". after I found this out I got the Bow two times in a row on first try. just keep in mind, the MP value matters. depending on the MP value you will get the cure numbers in different orders.
Thank u. My mp was 44 and 97 never even showed up. So I loaded up a Reks with 42mp and the numbers showed up in less than a minute
So the max MP does affect it
Is the max MP of 42 just needed for seitengrat or others as Well?
@@simplejack2245 42 MP, never saw 97 in over 30 minutes. Does not work at all
@@potatoesandgravy7021 Doesn't work on xbox tho
Still works Dec 11 2019. I found disconnecting from internet helped get the right numbers with Reks.
A genius! It still works!! Well deserved registration! Done now. WELL DONE AND PERFECT EXPLANATION!!!
As of March 15, 2018 this method has worked for me. 3x in a row after trying various other methods. Side note-- I had Reddas in my party when I did this, still worked fine if anyone is curious. Good luck!!
Thanks for confirming and congrats :)
FuzzfingerGaming We really appreciate all the work you put in for the videos :) thank you
You're welcome :)
March 7th, 2020 - PS4 - 2nd try using 97-94-95 + Father/Son method
I didn't get a chance to spawn 88-97-90 or I would have tried that too. I'm sure that one works as well.
This is awesome, thanks OP.
MC44 yesss! About to get this!
I was skeptical at first, but this still works as of Nov. 2019. I just picked up ten for the heck of it. Thx Fuzz!
If you're trying this but you dont get it you could be one or two problems:
1) you're counting the number of times the guy comes up incorrectly. In the video you only see him come up three times but the video guy counts to 4. Video just doesnt show the first time and you dont see it either unless you just look for him. So when you're running up to the chest counts as 1.
2) you could be opening the chest TOO quickly. If you're trying to account for the input lag to your ps4 or xbox, in a real world scenario you'd have to press the button WHILE the guy is coming up the last set of steps so that he stops right at the top of the stairs. But this is WRONG. The game actually gives you a LOT of time to open the chest - a good half second if not more. So just take it easy and wait for the guy to fully make it to the top of the stairs before you open the chest.
Still working on PS5 as of 4/28/24!! Can't thank you enough, this tutorial was amazingly simple!! You're the best, I just got the bow for every party member!! 🐾💙
Yes works perfectly 👍
I'm doing this now and it's taking forever to get the numbers. 🙄
Dude. I started following you from your Kingdom Hearts videos, and now, here you are helping me with FFXII. You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. Thank you for the info.👍
Thank you sooooo much! I had trouble with the healing numbers but read that you can use 97 94 95 too, which worked for me after every 5-10 heals.
personally I found it more easy to combine this spawn trick with the running kid timing.
Nice, its great to hear how people are combining various methods to get their bow(s).
Can confirm these numbers are WAY easier for me to get too - three chests in 5 minutes. Edit: More information - when you get the chest to spawn this way, you can't watch the man as stated in the video - I only had luck watching the boy that runs back and forth on the side of the upper deck. When he stops at his father the 4th time hit the button.
FOr me the man works better than the child, when you reach the chest the man already went up the stair once, so you need to count 3 more time, the man is also more lenient when pressing the button when he's up the stairs.
Funny how everyone says they've done it in seconds or minutes and I've tried both combinations for over an hour on 2 separate occasions and can't even get 2 numbers in a row.......I can't even barely get an 88 or 97 first
If you can't get the number combinations in the first like 20 tries, just restart the application and try anew. In my experience the random number generator changes with a different set every restart.
I can say that as of today June 7, 2019. Version 1.07, Spanish language and on a physical copy of the game on a PS4 Slim. This method worked incredibly nice!
Thank you for showing this dude, i can finally sleep well :)
You're very welcome and congrats, now enjoy your sleep :)
It works still, first two tries with this method and literally as soon as the guys feet hit the top of the stairs planted firmly on the ground the fourth time open it, I was skeptical but it really works.
WORKED! had trouble getting the 88 97 90 to show, tried for about 20-25 minutes and was losing my mind, read a comment about closing out the game entirely back to the PS dashboard and reloading the save file, did exactly that and then got it on my 4th MP replenish and got the bow first try! i've watched quite a few of your guide videos since i started playing FF12 and you've been a huge help!!
Just pulled this off and I'm still in disbelief lol thanks too who ever figured this out! 🍻
I’m gonna try this same method right now
It is hard to get this method, I am trying it right now!
You sir just saved my life. Thank you so much.
It still works to this very day (03/22/2019) on PS4 system. Just got myself 2 Seitengrats!
28/11/2020 - Got it first try! Cheers Fuzzy, love your videos
Okay, it's official you have saved my mind!!! I tried so many dumb methods to do this. I tried the original version, I tried waiting for 20 seconds and then exiting back into the lounge like Mage Masher had, I tried the 32 steps method, I tried the 7 zones in and out, and I spent 14 hours straight trying to get this bow. Your method is the only one that has consistently worked. Thank you thank you thank you. I am subscribing on all of my TH-cam channels.
I did exactly as you did in the video, same rng numbers from the Cure spell, Diamond Armlet equipped and the dude coming up the stairs a 4th time.
Conclusion: it does work 100% of the time!
I used to do this method a few years ago and recently I started a new game+, but I still want this bow 😂
@@kanetidus you can still get it 😁👍
I can't believe I got it on my second try. You're a legend mate!
Congrats! And thanks.
Why you have trial.mode in ff12 how?
I've been at it for an hour, and I just can't get the Cure numbers to line up...
Same
Same here, until I disconnected from the internet and restarted the game. Then It worked first try
@@dylanvaccaro6919 pure coincidence
@@dvdjkaufmn actually it works for me too. I found that resetting the game made those nunbers go up for me more frequently
@@316lga confirmation bias
Okay so, I don't normally comment on videos at all, but, I just have to say that I got three bows within thirty minutes. Thank you for showing us this!!!!!!!
Awesome, nice job on getting three!
I tried about five different methods before this. This is the only one that worked. Thanks for sharing!
does it work for xbox
I couldn’t get the sequence 88 97 90 for the longest time, but after closing the application from the PS4 menu and trying again it worked right away!
I also found it worked using the sequence 97 94 95, then waiting for the boy to talk to his Dad four times, opening the invisible chest on the 4th trip right when he stops to talk to his Dad. I waited 20 seconds at the door of the sky deck before going up the stairs on the 97 94 95 sequence with the boy/Dad timing. The key for me was knowing the boy talked to his Dad as I was coming up the stairs which meant I needed to count 3 additional trips from that point. If you let him go a 5th time you get the dreaded knot of rust!
After I figured that out I was able to get 6 Seitengrat’s in about 15 minutes without any issues!
Thanks for the great video Fuzz, I am subscribing to your channel for sure now and I’ll be watching a lot of your FF12 videos for sure. :)
08/10/2019 Still works!!!
It worked for me with 88/97/90 and 97/94/95
TYFYY!
97/94/95 works too?
I just got the game for Xbox one x, I finally got the numbers, exited to the main menu and loaded my save file and the chest didn't spawn, I hope this method works on Xbox one but so far I might be sool
It doesn't
26 July 2019 still works got cure numbers in 4 tries and first try for the bow God I've got about 1700 hours into this game and I finally have it aha
27/06/2019....still work. If ur like me after trying the reks heal combo about 2min and not getting either number combinations just completely restart application and try again. Did that on my first restart and boom. 2nd the 4 count of the dude going up and down the stairs start when your approaching him which counts as one...now i'ma go 1 shot everything:)
AWESOME!!!!!!!
I tried the other timing method and never got the chest to even show up.
Got the bow the very first time I tried with this method.
THANK YOU!
i'm kind of curious how long it took that Guy to figure this out, and tell him thanks too for all of us.
it seems pretty much impossible unless the guy had inside info on how the rng works in the game
I can guarantee that today, 11/03/2019 this method works, 100%. I was at first very skeptic since I tried and tried and tried, like 50 times the previous one Fuzz explained, but I had no success. This one works. I got the second time I tried!! I got two in 10 minutes ( I thought the would sell well but Seitengrat is worth 0 guil xD)
Thank you soooo much!!!
still nothing here lol
You can do something in the future and boast about it in the past
I know this Vid is 3 yr old, but does this still works with the latest firmware updates ?
Yes, this works on the PS4 version of the game with the latest updates :)
How about now? About to try this tonight
I played this game on the ps2 and loved it!, always had troubles getting the rare weapons and never gotten the seitengrat!, this method really really works! I'm following your walkthrough guide as well and playing along with the remastered game. Thank u for this video and your walkthrough!
After a lot of trial and error trying various methods to get the Seitengrat bow. Me and my son eventually got 3 in within a matter of minutes. The 88,97 90 rng sequence wasn't working on our ps4 console, and we tried the 97,94,95 sequence instead , and on our first try, we landed the invisible chest Seitengrat first time. We repeated the sequence to more times, and again, we landed the legendary bow. My take away from all of the trial and error is that if one sequence doesn't work, chances are the next sequence might. Thanks, Si, for the help.
2/1/2020 still works that's mate this guide really helped me
On what console?
I’m on the switch and the numbers aren’t showing up
@@superfrump07 does not work for switch ps4 only.
I've been trying for the past two hours - I get the right healing numbers - I get the invisible chest to show up - I just can't get the timing right to get the bow
@@mjf8897 the cure numbers don't show up for me.
@@M00SHTY oh I was able to get it over and over and over and over again.
you have to follow the directions precisely.
Seriously? Everyone I watch do this gets the right combination in like a few minutes. I did this shit for hours off and on and not once got the right combo.
Try for some minutes and then close the app and restart the heal chain on Reks if you didn't get it.
Took longer to watch the vid than get my 3......
Chris Smith. I have the worst of luck with these things normally and I was pretty skeptical at first, but managed to get 3 within a few minutes. Just make sure that you follow everything to the letter. Make sure everyone around the save crystal is dead and don't save at the save crystal; only use it to replenish your MP. Also make sure that before starting this step you have completely closed the game (not just exited to the main PS screen). It's probably just psycological, but I found standing near the save crystal just to the right worked best. But it should work within a few minutes. If not, restart your game (or even maybe your console?)
This method is also used for the Great Trango and Gendarme.
For me I had to go up a level and kill everyone then go back down and save I couldn't get above 94 before
Still works 3/23/2019, make sure you have 42mp or you will need different cure numbers. I kept starting new games till I got a Reks with 42mp
What about HP I have been this with reks at 42 mp but different hp and its been a full hour and still not getting the numbers.
I did this today with 41mp and the numbers worked
FINALLY!!!!! I confirm this method STILL works in 2022!. After two days of doing all other methods, this one worked and under 30 minutes ( 5 chest opens cause my timing was off). Thanks man for the content!
Works perfectly on PS5 in January 2021. First try following exactly what you showed. Thanks a lot!
I don't get it how do you figure out the RNG values. Never explained how you figure it out?
A little late, but these methods comes from PS2. There were a lot of methods for manipulate RNG and I guess this thing works the same for Zodiac Age. They just mess with the numbers in the game archives. In the end, RNG are not other but commands that activate or deactivate specific results at calculations for the game that leads to get something or other thing.
Does it work on the switch version
No because the Switch version doesn’t have static RNG so the RNG is reset every screen load. GameFAQs users are working on a workaround. In the meantime you have to contend with that 1/100 chance chest spawn. Basically it’s like the PC version but without the cheat mode. As for the "man on the stairs" step I actually did get one doing that but I think I was just super lucky because every other attempt failed, and I made sure I had the man screenshot-perfect.
@@KingX do you know if it works on xbox?
@@KingX rip
Patch 1.0.7 on ps4 and still works
Worked for me on PS5, using 4X speed as of today Jan. 20, 2024. Took 4 tries, then I got it 3x in a row. Awesome video, cheers
You sir are a hero. Got it on the first try. Ps5
Does this still work?
Origin777 yes absolutely. i literally just found this video 30 mins ago, followed the method precisely, and now my party is fully stacked with 6x bows.
Other people in the comments have mentioned a few things i’ll reiterate here for you, since the rng manipulation trick worked every single time for me but it took several times for me to get the timing right on when to open the chest.
Make sure you count the NPC the first time you encounter him on your way up the stairs (you pass him while he’s on the stairs, and by the time you reach the chest and angle the camera appropriately to watch the NPC, he’ll be on top of the steps for the first of those four times).
The fourth time he comes up the steps, open the chest directly as he makes his left turn. My issue was opening the chest the moment he got to the top of the steps (but before beginning to turn direction), which ended up giving me 10gil twice.
The timing on it doesn’t even need to be EXACTLY where you see it in this video; i still got the bow by opening the chest a half second or so after. From my experience, it’s all about the NPC’s fourth stair ascension + him turning left to begin walking to the railing he stands at whilst not moving up and down the steps.
Lastly, with regard to the RNG manipulation curing chains of 88, 97, and 90 on your Reks save file, i believe the first time you utilize it you’re guaranteed to get those three numbers in correct order pretty quickly. However, if you happen to mess up the timing of opening the chest upon loading your main save on the airship (getting gil or a knot of rust instead of the bow), make sure to completely exit out of the application before reloading the Reks file. Otherwise, it was impossible for me to get the curing chain combo i needed. Same rule applies to getting multiple bows; as soon as you get one, exit the airship deck and re-enter it once more (so as to overwrite the previous quick save file), completely close down the application, reopen it and then load your Reks file. This will enable you to get the sequence of cures again easily, exit to main screen, reload back to airdeck, and get another bow.
Do you happen to know if this works in the switch version?
Does it work on switch?
Dis you ever find out if it works on the switch?
Wanted to add 3 major notes:Confirmed working on version 1.05. If not getting the numbers right away, close the game entirely and get a new sequence going.Timing for stair guy is roughly when his foot hits the green top
Fuzz I have watched so many of your videos I hear your voice in my head! This worked as of 2/29/2020 using this exact technique just make sure as you go up the stairs towards the chest that you count the man already being on his first trip. So count 3 more full trips and BAM...beautiful bow!
for those who are wondering I'm doing this right now and it still works!
Seems like the chances of getting 88, 97 and 90 in a row are about as high as trying to get the weapon without any tricks. Stood there for over an hour and I couldn't even get 88 and 97.
Just give me the bow for killing Omega or something. I shouldn't have to pat my head, jump up and down 3 times and give a reach around to a spider monkey to get a weapon 😀
Sony: Oh yes you will! If we give you the possiblity to have a hidden super weapon and/or equipment in *our* games you best be giving those reacharounds to those spider monkeys or else!
4/29/20 Worked for me! Got the chest to spawn every time but did take a few times to get the timing right. As long as the chest spawns you're doing it right
Matt Legg I was actually looking through the comments to check if someone was still playing it during the quarantine! Thanks for confirming!
This worked perfectly! Thanks for all of your FF RNG videos Fuzzfinger!
2020 pc cheat engine TZA method still works and the bow is extremely powerful and makes the game stupidly easy. If you wanna have a challenge I recommend you never use this bow for your full gameplay. Makes the zodiac spear from original FF12 PS2 look like nothing.
It's working
YEEEEEES 😭😭😭 5/11/2019 thank u so much if I could post SS to show I so would I finally got it thank you thank you so much
does it work for xbox one
This method still works. Took me 30 minutes roughly. I did 5 attempts because my timing when he reached the top were off by half a second.
Worked perfectly today 9 March 2020! Got 10 Gil the first 2 times. Then I realized, that i pressed just a bit too early, so the guy was just not quite completely up the stairs. So for all having the same issues, press x when the guy has both feet on the ground and has cleared the stairs completely. Thank you mate! Great stuff!
Had no memory of how to do this but just tried this on my new playthrough after completing about everything else in the game except gathering the invisible weapons and it worked on the first try. Excellent!
Hey thanks for the video man!! I just tried it with an old file, quickly did the reks bit just to see if it works and first try!! I even got the 88 97 90 on my first 3 cures as well, I’m never normally that lucky. Thanks again
Nice! ... i confirm this works 30/11/2020
First it took me 15min without getting the numbers 88.97.90 in order until i saw a comment telling that bein offline helps.
I disconnected my ps4 reload again and got the numbers in the right order in less the 4min.
this is amazing thank you, got both the heal & bow first try, did it again first try a few times for all my party members
On 30 seconds method I’ve spent several hours and didn’t get.
I did this one in 40 minutes and got 6 in a row.
This is really guarantee, you have my respect bro, thanks to put the effort to bring this to us
It worked for me. I thank you FuzzFingerGaming for this loop-trick. If it us of any use to anyone, the sequence of healing points numbers with reks maybe is related to the time in the game. At was ot minute 08. And the guy running up the stairs wasn't already heading to the left, but was just with two feet in the upper deck, so it is probably a matter of one whole second, not a super high precise moment. Thank you again. I use sequence 88-97-90 anyway, like the video and my party was with 3 members, so nothing unusual. Hope everyone can get this annoying bow.
*IMPORTANT FOR PC PLAYERS* - Sadly, the RNG values are further into the sequence with the PC version of the game, so the healing number sequence in this video almost certainly won't appear. It has been calculated that the RNG advances every 1.6 seconds on the airship but it just needs to be worked into the number sequence for Reks' healing. I will make a new video as soon as there is a working method. If you're playing on PS4, then everything should still be fine.
*EDIT (For PC players only)*
Afer some testing, it seems there is some other factor that determines where in the number sequence Reks begins his healing numbers. Ie, you can load your Reks save file twice and be in a completely difference location of the healing sequence. It may be based on clock time or something else entirely. In other words, it may not be possible to manipulate the RNG with the PC version of the game.
I wonder if the loot timing once the chest spawns has changed as well. I didn't play the PS4 version, so I have very little practice, but I felt like messing with it this morning. I got 3 "natural" spawns of the chest by zoning, but the man on the stairs method never worked for me. I felt good about my timing - it looked just like the video - but I got gil every single time.
(Fortunately, spawning the 3 chests only took about 10 minutes. Very lucky, that.)
Does the man on the stairs timing work for "natural" spawns of the chest, or does that only work for manipulated spawns? Or for fresh loads of an auto-save vs. zoning in? My understanding was the Reks method was just to force the chest to spawn and had nothing to do with what you actually get in the chest.
Unfortunately the Reks healing sequence affects all the RNG, including the bow spawning in the chest. The timing when opening is just part of that forced manipulation but not the only thing (you still need the correct numbers).
I Just did this today (10/30/2023) and to my surprise it still works!!!!
Thank you man!!!
Thanks! I got a Reks Savefile where these numbers show off immediately. And this everytime! This method works perfectly! I got the Bow on my second try (messed up the timing on opening the chest). Thanks for this awesome Guide!
The way fuzzfinger explained it worked for me the very first time, TY
still works perfectly as of april 6 2020! had to close and reopen the game twice cause reks' combo wouldn't come up but once it did i got 3 seitengrats without a problem! thank you so much for this video!!
It still works! Thank you fuzzy finger. :)
This worked for me on my ps5 (January 2022) the last method didn’t work for me, glad I finally got my hands on it to make grinding quicker
Totally worked. First try. Was trying for ages and this method worked right away
Works perfectly 6 times in a row! Thanks bro. You’re a lifesaver. 😁
Just NOW confirmed that this trick still works! Got it the second time the RNG numbers showed up. Thanks mate!
Got two of them in 5 mins!
Thank u toke a couple of try’s for the timing up the stairs but I got it! the game designers are crazy but I bet they never believed someone even crazier would spend countless hours mapping out the rng system!!! Probs to u guys for letting the rest of us know
I messed up the timing the first try, but managed to get it on the second attempt. Liked the video and I am going to check out your other ones too.
6/2/21 - Method works like a charm!
I was skeptical... but i got six seintegrat in a row on my first try, and it took me only half an hour for all! IT REALLY WORKS! GREAT JOB!
I got it! Thank you so much! I actually got the 88, 97, 90 numbers on my first attempt but got the timing wrong with the guy walking up the stairs. Then when I finally managed to get the three number combo again, I got it on my second try. Excited to see how it'll work, though I'm in late game so it might not do that much. But still really happy that I got it!
Brilliant. This is perhaps the ultimate weapon so should be useful even in the final parts of the game!
Praise be to Fuzz! I got it on my first try! Thank you so much! :D
June 16 2024 PS5 got it first try. I thought I was late on the timing for the dude going up the stairs but nope! Thanks for this amazing guide.
I'm kind of stunned this actually worked. I mean, this whole process sounds ridiculous, but it really works. Thanks dude!
still works 07/09/2019. thanks man it only took me like 3 minutes to get 88/97/90. you are awesome!!
very nearly saved over my main save game again, made 2 saves just in case before I made the reks one, thank god, couldn't deal with starting over again, but not getting the numbers, am gonna keep on trying, thanks for such simple walkthroughs
Confirmed still working 23/12/2020 - Had the problem of the 88 97 90not showing on Reks, going directly out of the game and back in got the sequence to show. Thanks for the guide!
Still works!
Friday July 29 2023 game version 1.08 (digital) on PS5
Thanks Fuzzy!
I want to say thank you so very much! It took some practice to get the timing right, and the first time I hit the x button at the right time, but it did not loot the chest because I wasn't close enough... but I got it!!! Anyone trying this make sure you are indeed close enough to loot the chest. (I pushed him against the chest as I hit the x button to loot) Awesome video!!! I cannot thank you enough for my new weapon!
Thank you. It worked for me. My version of FFXII it's totally updated.
You're the best.