The actual list should read Britain #4 France #3 US Coast guard #2 and the actual US Navy #1. The US Coast Guard had roughly 250 coastal and ocean-going cutters, nearly 2,000 small boats, and more than 200 helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. This is for 2021.
Honest to god, i really hope we get our shit together here in Europe and start working together again instead of giving into that emerging right-wing ideology of not giving a fuck about others. It really pisses me off to be honest. I cannot understand for the life of me, why it's so hard to just be nice to one another. Be that country to country or human being to human being... Idk, I really hope we continue being good lads here together and not having some stupid idiots manage to break the European counties apart. I really, really hope we'll manage. It's just beautiful to have finally left all those ugly ideologies behind, that have plagued Europe since the middle ages and currently it all just seems to crumble under a couple foreign people in need of help. Sorry for the rant btw, but I just feel like people get more and more selfish as time goes on...
As a French, your mealtdown was hilarious ! Although I'm proud of my navy, I'm not sure I would put it before the Brits' navy. But I'm glad our rivalry is still kicking hard ! (Also, please don't say the UK is Europe's US, I respect the Brits more than that). We'll still kick your arse on any other fields though ! You'll forever be our favorite friennemies, modern warfare ain't got shit on over a millenia of rivalry
What was true rivarly for nearly a millenia has not become a friendly rivalry. Big props to the french forces. You guys have massively stepped up in defense of europe while Germany hid behind a bush. I dont think enough people give france credit as they always think about ww2 and frances surrender. However if it wasnt for french partisans D-Day would likely have never happened. French Sabateurs are the reason germany lost the war.
The 45 Danish patrol vessels are for patrolling around Greenland, the Faroe Islands and all the Danish islands close to the mainland. Many of these places are not suitable for the larger vessels. They are also active in SAR operations.
When you see it on paper sometime you can fall into the trap of "oh that country only has 1 carrier" or "oh they only have 4 destroyers" but then you see one in person and each one feels like a relic of war from Warhammer 40k
The UK carriers are still diesel electric. They've got a very limited range and utility, so they count, but they don't have quite the same utility as a nuclear powered carrier with catapults on it does. I'm not saying this video is correct because I have no clue what they're rankings are based on, I'm just pointing out that there's a very clear difference between the UK and France in terms of carriers. The logistical train required to keep the UK Carriers up to speed with a Nuclear Carrier would be a bit much for this day and age. And yes, the US has 11 carriers because it's in our federal law that we must have at least 11 carriers at any given time. That's 11 carriers active, not necessarily on the water, but considered in service. It also makes sense why the US's Navy is a bit skewed in comparison to some of the other navies with just patrol ships and corvettes. Frigates, corvettes, and patrol ships are brown water ships for the most part, meaning they don't stray too far from coastal waters. They patrol what's theirs and keep what's theirs safe and pitch in a bit here and there when they need to. The US doesn't really protect it's coast with ships. We've got California on one side, which good luck if you really want to deal with them, and hurricanes on the other. Even if our coasts get threatened, we already have the Coast Guard, the National Guard, and the 2nd amendment and independent drone pilots who will take action if needed. So it's kind of like we don't require ships because "We'll sink your battleship with liberty, Helldiver!!!" That aside, we also have our museum ships which a good number of them are museums for the time being. They can be reactivated and called back into service and even though it might not seem pertinent, I don't think modern warships are made to contend with 16" shells fired from the Iowa class. So the US instead focuses on protecting other shores and projecting power all over the blue waters. It's definitely an area that a lot of other navies lack in that they could start investing in to increase their perceived power (I say perceived because actual power is once negotiation fails and the safeties are taken off.) As much boasting as Russia and China want to claim, their blue water navy games are weak. The US can export conflict to shores abroad. That's not what most every other navy in the world focuses on. Their navies tend to be defensive mostly. Another factor, and I'm not saying it's right, just a possibility, is nuclear arms. France technically has more than the UK, but that's a factor of like 290 to 225. Still too many, far less than the US and Russia, but if we're going to use nuclear armament as a deciding factor, France wins on that number. I think this calls for videos doing a deeper dive into the two navies.
People over state nuclear powered ships. You dont need nuclear and nuclear dosnt make a ships head and shoulders better then a diesel powered ship either. There are pros and cons on both sides. But in terms of range, its a moot point too bring up becuase unless a carriers crew are robots a supply vessel is always needed. The QEC always restocks fuel as its restocking equipment and food so it literally would have no extra downtime in its range compared to if it was nuclear powered as food and equipment still needs to be exchanged. The biggest difference for nuclear powered vessels is depending on the generation of nuclear reactor used will obviously be power output leaving a bigger buffer for any future electronic systems. But at the same time a Diesel engine takes a few months to replace, where as a nuclear powered ship takes years. So you can easily swap out diesel engines for better capacity and relatively quickly if you wanted too. Another benefit of nuclear is fuel storage, you only needs stores for aviation fuel, however diesel needs 2 tanks one for aviation and one for diesel. finally CDG has one advantage over QEC and thats cats, however frances has one carrier meaning its out on ops then sitting in a port for 6m-1y for refits and repairs. QEC has 2 ships so one can be out at all times.
Unless all of the supporting ships are also nuclear powered, destroyers, frigates etc… there is always going to be a massive amount of logistics for a carrier group. The QE class does not need to compete with the US or Chinese carriers, which need to operate across the pacific, and would operate much closer to home, likely in the Arctic Ocean and the Norwegian Sea. Britains only real adversary is Russia, and the QE beats the Kuznetsov hands down
I can imagine that the Power Index was used to make the ranking. Training and involvement in actual missions are NOT taken into account, but it is measured solely by the number of men, the number of ships and their technical age and condition.
No mention of the U.S. Navy Cruisers still operating? They pack a serious punch with the amount of missiles they carry. They even shoot down our own jets sometimes. 😂
The US Navy has only 9 active cruisers and they are all on their way to being inactive, they are just old, and new parts for their aging electronics are hard to get, cheaper to build some extra Arleigh Burk Batch 3 class, and some are a cruiser in them self. The Last 2 Ticonderoga are going out of service in 2027 (proposed), they proposed just this year to put into inactive 3 of them already. They even stopped upgrading 2-33 Ticonderogas, even after that they already had spent a fuck ton of money on upgrading them, instead, they just axed them and decommissioned them. Ticonderogas aren't much stronger than today's Destroyers, their radars and electronics are aging and have limits, the only reason they keep them is to hang them onto aircraft carriers as missile platforms, they even don't need their radars due to the radars from the carrier and the other ships does the work better, and they can command missiles from other ships in the fleet. So basically Tico's today are just a missile barge that rarely travels alone.
This is kind of BS, the US still has 8 active Ticonderoga class missile cruisers and another 18 in mothballs that they can reactivate. In fact, the US has a great deal of ships in storage they can activate for a major war.
9 still active Ticos, I believe, and 13 decommissioned in reserve. The first 5 Ticos (CG-47 through CG-51) have been scrapped, with the exception of CG-50 which was sunk as a target vessel in 2006.
The way they ranked the various countries was pretty arbitrary. For France and Britain the only component of their navies which matter are their nuclear attack submarines armed with ICBMs tipped with warheads containing several nuclear MIRVs. In that respect the two countries are evenly matched. It's obvious from the Russian experience in the Black Sea that surface ships are very vulnerable to drones so they simply don't really matter, at least until a defense is found against naval drones.
The real difference is that when French SSBNs carry out tests to launch intercontinental nuclear missiles they work correctly and when they are English submarines there are critical failures, once it works twice it is a catastrophe for English nuclear deterrence
At some point, Pepsi-Cola could be included in the list of leaders of this rating. They had 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate, and a destroyer. This is what blows your mind (and don't mind that it was floating scrap metal).
Hello from France! Don't get mad. Our aircraft carrier is nuclear AND they forgot our nuclear submarines too ^^ Plus, there is a difference between aircraft carriers. American and french carriers have a catapult which double their efficiency. But I understand that you don't like his way of defining which navy is more powerful. Let's say we are equal on that and that we need to unite to hope being half as powerful as the US 😂
Hahahaha, "America is gonna be the number one, thats fine". Didnt have to hear your accent or see you, just that sentence alone made me think, thats a brit coping with the fact that Royal Navy is not the largest most dangerous navy anymore. Love your channel and content, you make a lot of people smile, thank you.
Funny thing is the US coastal patrol ships are mostly in the US Coast Guard which aren't shown. During war the Coast Guard is incorporated into the US Navy. National Security Cutters 8 High Endurance Cutters 2 Medium Endurance Cutters 28 Fast Response Cutters 41 Patrol Boats 90
To be fair though the UK is going through a massive update on its boats. We are currently phasing out our old frigates and building new state of the art ones. 2 types, 1 which is expensive and has all the bells and whistles and one that is cheaper to bulk up the force. Do this video in 10 years time when all the subs and frigates are build and we will be second.
btw portuguese navy is about to aquire 16 new vessels i think including 2 smaller subs( older subs-trident class has 70m lenght) and the objective is to improve naval counter sabotage, and anti sub capabilities. doing so using the fewer man possible wich means boats fairly efficient
The French Navy is capable of operating globally and conducting expeditionary missions, maintaining a significant overseas presence. The French Navy is one of eight naval forces currently operating fixed-wing aircraft carriers,[Note 1] with its flagship Charles de Gaulle being the only nuclear-powered aircraft carrier outside the United States Navy, and one of two non-American vessels to use catapults to launch aircraft.[7]
Currently Turkey is building 30 army vessels in the decks simultaneously. Now 7 frigates, 6 open sea patrol ships, 5 type 214 submarines, 8 fast landing docks and more are building now. Turkish indigenous aircraft carrier is in design stage. Also 1 corvette for Ukraine and 1 corvette for Pakistan is building in Turkish docks while 3 corvette deal made with Malesia and soon will be started. Turkey will become stronger Navy Asset in Nato in next 5-10 years.
The French Navy pioneered several innovations in naval technology, including the first steam-powered ship of the line, first seagoing ironclad warship, first mechanically propelled submarine, first steel-hulled warship, and first armoured cruiser. The French Navy consists of six main components: the Naval Action Force, the Submarine Forces (FOST and ESNA), French Naval Aviation, the Navy Riflemen (including Naval Commandos), the Marseille Naval Fire Battalion, and the Maritime Gendarmerie. As of 2021, the French Navy employed 44,000 personnel (37,000 military and 7,000 civilian), more than 180 ships, 200 aircraft, and six commandos units;[9] as of 2014, its reserve element numbered roughly 48,000.[10] It operates a wide range of fighting vessels, including various aeronaval forces, attack and ballistic missile submarines, frigates, patrol boats and support ships, with aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle serving as the centerpiece of most expeditionary forces.
Funny thing is they didn't show the entire force of the navies Fx: Poland has 2 frigatees (soon will have 3 new ones) 2 corvettes, mine warfare ships, a sub (soon will buy 3 new ones) but it as o has amphibious landing ships that can als o double as mine deploying ships (unless they got added into the mine warfare ship category) ENLIT ships.
i was laughing the whole time because i knew France had a decent fleet. Unfortunately the UK is in a bit of a crisis ATM. I have to say though i think it was a mistake not including logistic vessels, The Canadian navy is in the process of acquiring a new fleet and the re-supply ship is probably the coolest one. They may not carry big guns but the rest of the fleet would be dead in the water without them.
The deal with Canada will end up being a treaty allowing for use of arctic ports and economic growth for trade. Just modifications to existing deals. If Greenland becomes independent from Denmark think of year around winter sports resorts, development and exploitation of resources not allowed by Denmark.
Polish navy ships frigate Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate we bought from USA, other frigates Gawron class are made in house in Gdynia Shipyard, our submarine "Orzeł"(Eagle) is a Kilo class sub bought from russia in 1986, later modified in Poland. Almost all minewarfare ships are made in huse in Gdynia Shipyard.
I was in the US Navy in the mid-80s. Things must have really changed because I agree with you, about Britain should have been second. From I remember, the train was more important than numbers or even equipment. The French navy is no joke, but sorties with France was always a struggle. We all thought of the English Navy and its personnel as eguals. Not just because of the language barriers that were petty small but because anything naval needs to be done in a presice and deliberate manner. Staunch and starch, like is the best way to go.and nobody does that better than the Britts. That's why they have always been and always will be one of the greatest naval powers the world has ever seen.
9 cruisers that are basically on their way out, and those cruisers aren't more powerful than the Destroyers in US Navy. their radars are aging as well and they always hang around carriers as missile barges, since other newer ships with better electronics and radars can control weapons from other ships in the fleet. Thus today Tico's are mostly used as an missile barge and Arleigh Burk class Batch 3 are basically taking over the role until DDG(X) are being build
Remember we patrole greenland and the faroe islands. Thats also the reason our patrole and frigates are quite large, as they can handle the rought seas
Love your vids, but the UK's aircraft carriers are are kind of really big helicopter carriers with a ski jump (and limited fixed wing fighter availability), while the slightly smaller French de Gaulle is kind a 2/3 size Nimitz class (half the displacement, but about 3/4 the length and beam) nuclear powered CATOBAR carrier. The French have fully integrated with a US carrier air wing on board George H.W. Bush while the de Gaulle was undergoing refit. You should check out some vids on Chesapeake 2018.
You jinxed it mate! All your fault! ;D As for shipbuilding, not sure about other nations, but the new Surface ships for SE navy(4 planned) are designed by UK Babcock and swedish Saab, ship hull will probably be built in Poland and the rest of the work done in Sweden. Similiarly, the newly commisioned SIGINT ship HMS Artemis(wasn't included here) had the hull built in Poland and the rest done in Sweden. The new submarines that are under construction are done in Sweden, also by Saab.
DUDE!!! It would not be fair to the rest of the world if we combine the Royal Navy and America's Navy 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪😎😎😎😎. We would be able to take ANY country in weeks
They probonly ranked them via displacment. The swedish corvets are carbon finer hence have very low displacment. Much lower thsn for example the smaller norwegan eqvivalent. The subs are also fairly compact. And thr "patroll" ships. That would be the CB90 that is really assult ships. They are light weight aluminium.
Put all NATO nations that operate in the Baltic combine them and you soon will realize that the Baltic sea is the most well defended sea in the world. (Russian entire fleet in the Baltic sea is a total of 43 surface ships and one submarine.)
Kind of sad to see but true that Polish navy is pretty much non-existent. Feels like it used to be slightly better 20+ years ago, but now its just scrapyard. My dad was in navy so I was on the ships very often as a kid and basically thats the only good thing for me about it, having those memories of having a good time spent there as a kid.
It is correct that the French are second, the French Navy is just that much bigger and has more resources available than the Royal Navy, the video has nothing about how to have the best-trained men, but how to have the most ships and tonnage, and the French navy outmatch Royal Navy on that. It is a sad fact for the Brits, but you have to live with that. One major thing the French Navy are extremely good at compared to the Royal Navy, is how efficient they are at servicing their ships and building new modern ships, they rarely have downtime and most of their ships are active, instead of Royal navy where 60++% of the ships are in dock for repairs Sweden has 298 patrol ships because they list all small combat boats and light boats as patrol ships. While countries like Norway that have also the same type of ships, don't list them at all
You can argue the quality of the Royal Navy... but the quantity is a pitiful shadow of even the 80's. And then you have to think of UK defense spending... how many of those ships are putting to sea with full magazines? How many aircraft are available for the 2 aircraft carriers? Are both carriers available at the same time? European NATO navies have sadly devlolved into a coastal defense force.. I think the last U.S. defense secretary told the UK to focus on Europe and leave the Pacific to the U.S....
Don't get pissed at France, it's your political party that keeps slashing funding for the Royal Navy. It's just not very big anymore. I think what you have is good quality, and well trained crews, you just don't have very much of it.
13:25 Hear me out, what if the U.S., Canada, the U.K., New Zealand, and Australia became one country... They said the sun nevee sets on the British empire. Now, its Americas turn to be an empire, and the sun always rises in the American empire
@@Fattyyyyx Am I.. you guys are just trying to keep being relevant in some way with that....Are you afraid that when India will get strong It will get it's revenge? so you need some ensurance? And you guys in this shit are just in front of us in Italy xD haahaa
Bro I love Britain but🤷♂️the strongest Naval Ally to the US is Japan. Japan trains more and Has more ships than UK. Japan also because of its proximity with China also does more joint training with the US than Britain. Unfortunately UK leaders do not put defense as a big priority in budget
It's still crazy that your former colonizers with whom you have been at war since your independence in 1812 if I remember correctly are more popular than your OLDEST ALLY (1776) who fought for you to be a country and who has never been at war with you. It's just completely incomprehensible.
Most of the Easter European countries, like Bulgaria, and, Croatia are reliant on Soviet Cold War leftovers. Poland, on the other hand, bought their two frigates from the US. They're decommissioned Oliver Hazard Perry Class FFGs.
Listen, I believe the Royal Navy is better trained then France. Please don't feel bad. You have only so much money. You also have universal healthcare and more going to your schools. Second place is really just because they have more ships, not better training, and you KNOW it's not so much the size, it's how you use it. ;)
You know, to be well trained you have to do exercises, blue water training, which is what the French Navy does because it has decent funding, but which the Royal Navy no longer does due to lack of budget, so probably the French Navy is better trained than the Royal Navy.
UK should buy the USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) before she is scraped she headed there now than they would at least have a super carrier ! Maybe u can crowd fund it !
If they could drag the isles away fro the EU while colonizing it would be better since the U.S need to stay as far as it can be kept from the EU... it has already too much influence in whats going on...
What an absolutely no effort video the one you reacted to . Why not check out something like Finnish soldiers train NATO Allies in winter survival skills
This is why France is #2. The UK has never operated a nuclear-powered surface ship. Your CV's are limited by fuel and thus decrease of air wing size. PUT 1 just ONE CVN and you would be top dog.
@@thekraken1173 Well actually no, France has more bases abroad and around the world thanks to its islands than the United Kingdom, it is placed in number just behind the USA.
Quite so. I've always argued that's why we, Britain and Germany, reached a stalemate in WWII. German Land forces were supreme, British Sea power was supreme and we had a bit of a tied result on Air power. We couldn't keep you out of Western Europe but you couldn't get to us to finish us off. I have also always said that without Churchill we would have signed a treaty with Germany a little while after the Battle of Britain - that really opens up the gates of Alternative History What If's :D
The Americans are British....I mean, they speak English (from England, I may add) and many of their locations are named after our counties or cities. We were the majority colonists.
The fact that the second ACTUAL second third and blah blah blah until you even get to france... Man this video sucks. (there's not yours) how do you not have CHINA... RUSSIA... JAPAN.... What??? Obvious joke video
The coping as the French navy is being shown lol. Great video, keep it up!
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The actual list should read Britain #4 France #3 US Coast guard #2 and the actual US Navy #1. The US Coast Guard had roughly 250 coastal and ocean-going cutters, nearly 2,000 small boats, and more than 200 helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. This is for 2021.
i mean the CG definitely has numbers but dosent have anywhere near the actual weapon systems that the french or the british navies have.
I think the US fleet of museum ships would rank somewhere between 2 and 3 on that list. There isn't many fleets with battleships anymore.
Coast Guard might have more ships. But the CG fleet is by far inferior in firepower to even one of the weaker NATO navies.
@@TheBongReyes This is to true but they have more planes and helicopters then some of these navies...
The actual list should be USA, China, Russia, It's hard to even tell after that...
The video mentions the U.S. has only 5 patrol ships. To do that job we also have the U.S. Coast Guard with its 250 ships and 2,000 smaller boats.
Ya I agree. Patrol ships aren't housed under the office of the navy. Coast guard is massive.
I'm French but I really like British people, happy we are friends now, we have the best rivalry ! 💪🏼💪🏼
Honest to god, i really hope we get our shit together here in Europe and start working together again instead of giving into that emerging right-wing ideology of not giving a fuck about others. It really pisses me off to be honest. I cannot understand for the life of me, why it's so hard to just be nice to one another. Be that country to country or human being to human being... Idk, I really hope we continue being good lads here together and not having some stupid idiots manage to break the European counties apart. I really, really hope we'll manage. It's just beautiful to have finally left all those ugly ideologies behind, that have plagued Europe since the middle ages and currently it all just seems to crumble under a couple foreign people in need of help. Sorry for the rant btw, but I just feel like people get more and more selfish as time goes on...
Britain and France almost become one country during ww2. That would have been a fun thought if it succeeded haha.
As a French, your mealtdown was hilarious ! Although I'm proud of my navy, I'm not sure I would put it before the Brits' navy. But I'm glad our rivalry is still kicking hard ! (Also, please don't say the UK is Europe's US, I respect the Brits more than that). We'll still kick your arse on any other fields though !
You'll forever be our favorite friennemies, modern warfare ain't got shit on over a millenia of rivalry
What was true rivarly for nearly a millenia has not become a friendly rivalry. Big props to the french forces. You guys have massively stepped up in defense of europe while Germany hid behind a bush. I dont think enough people give france credit as they always think about ww2 and frances surrender. However if it wasnt for french partisans D-Day would likely have never happened. French Sabateurs are the reason germany lost the war.
The 45 Danish patrol vessels are for patrolling around Greenland, the Faroe Islands and all the Danish islands close to the mainland. Many of these places are not suitable for the larger vessels. They are also active in SAR operations.
When you see it on paper sometime you can fall into the trap of "oh that country only has 1 carrier" or "oh they only have 4 destroyers" but then you see one in person and each one feels like a relic of war from Warhammer 40k
Factual and funny. This is why I follow you, mate! Cheers!
The UK carriers are still diesel electric. They've got a very limited range and utility, so they count, but they don't have quite the same utility as a nuclear powered carrier with catapults on it does. I'm not saying this video is correct because I have no clue what they're rankings are based on, I'm just pointing out that there's a very clear difference between the UK and France in terms of carriers. The logistical train required to keep the UK Carriers up to speed with a Nuclear Carrier would be a bit much for this day and age.
And yes, the US has 11 carriers because it's in our federal law that we must have at least 11 carriers at any given time. That's 11 carriers active, not necessarily on the water, but considered in service. It also makes sense why the US's Navy is a bit skewed in comparison to some of the other navies with just patrol ships and corvettes. Frigates, corvettes, and patrol ships are brown water ships for the most part, meaning they don't stray too far from coastal waters. They patrol what's theirs and keep what's theirs safe and pitch in a bit here and there when they need to. The US doesn't really protect it's coast with ships. We've got California on one side, which good luck if you really want to deal with them, and hurricanes on the other. Even if our coasts get threatened, we already have the Coast Guard, the National Guard, and the 2nd amendment and independent drone pilots who will take action if needed. So it's kind of like we don't require ships because
"We'll sink your battleship with liberty, Helldiver!!!"
That aside, we also have our museum ships which a good number of them are museums for the time being. They can be reactivated and called back into service and even though it might not seem pertinent, I don't think modern warships are made to contend with 16" shells fired from the Iowa class. So the US instead focuses on protecting other shores and projecting power all over the blue waters. It's definitely an area that a lot of other navies lack in that they could start investing in to increase their perceived power (I say perceived because actual power is once negotiation fails and the safeties are taken off.) As much boasting as Russia and China want to claim, their blue water navy games are weak. The US can export conflict to shores abroad. That's not what most every other navy in the world focuses on. Their navies tend to be defensive mostly.
Another factor, and I'm not saying it's right, just a possibility, is nuclear arms. France technically has more than the UK, but that's a factor of like 290 to 225. Still too many, far less than the US and Russia, but if we're going to use nuclear armament as a deciding factor, France wins on that number. I think this calls for videos doing a deeper dive into the two navies.
People over state nuclear powered ships. You dont need nuclear and nuclear dosnt make a ships head and shoulders better then a diesel powered ship either. There are pros and cons on both sides. But in terms of range, its a moot point too bring up becuase unless a carriers crew are robots a supply vessel is always needed. The QEC always restocks fuel as its restocking equipment and food so it literally would have no extra downtime in its range compared to if it was nuclear powered as food and equipment still needs to be exchanged.
The biggest difference for nuclear powered vessels is depending on the generation of nuclear reactor used will obviously be power output leaving a bigger buffer for any future electronic systems. But at the same time a Diesel engine takes a few months to replace, where as a nuclear powered ship takes years. So you can easily swap out diesel engines for better capacity and relatively quickly if you wanted too. Another benefit of nuclear is fuel storage, you only needs stores for aviation fuel, however diesel needs 2 tanks one for aviation and one for diesel.
finally CDG has one advantage over QEC and thats cats, however frances has one carrier meaning its out on ops then sitting in a port for 6m-1y for refits and repairs. QEC has 2 ships so one can be out at all times.
Unless all of the supporting ships are also nuclear powered, destroyers, frigates etc… there is always going to be a massive amount of logistics for a carrier group. The QE class does not need to compete with the US or Chinese carriers, which need to operate across the pacific, and would operate much closer to home, likely in the Arctic Ocean and the Norwegian Sea. Britains only real adversary is Russia, and the QE beats the Kuznetsov hands down
I can imagine that the Power Index was used to make the ranking. Training and involvement in actual missions are NOT taken into account, but it is measured solely by the number of men, the number of ships and their technical age and condition.
No mention of the U.S. Navy Cruisers still operating? They pack a serious punch with the amount of missiles they carry. They even shoot down our own jets sometimes. 😂
I guess the 22 Ticonderoga class guided missle cruisers the US has dont count?
The US Navy has only 9 active cruisers and they are all on their way to being inactive, they are just old, and new parts for their aging electronics are hard to get, cheaper to build some extra Arleigh Burk Batch 3 class, and some are a cruiser in them self. The Last 2 Ticonderoga are going out of service in 2027 (proposed), they proposed just this year to put into inactive 3 of them already.
They even stopped upgrading 2-33 Ticonderogas, even after that they already had spent a fuck ton of money on upgrading them, instead, they just axed them and decommissioned them.
Ticonderogas aren't much stronger than today's Destroyers, their radars and electronics are aging and have limits, the only reason they keep them is to hang them onto aircraft carriers as missile platforms, they even don't need their radars due to the radars from the carrier and the other ships does the work better, and they can command missiles from other ships in the fleet. So basically Tico's today are just a missile barge that rarely travels alone.
This is kind of BS, the US still has 8 active Ticonderoga class missile cruisers and another 18 in mothballs that they can reactivate. In fact, the US has a great deal of ships in storage they can activate for a major war.
Did this video specify "active" ships? I don't remember. I'll have to check that. thanks.
9 still active Ticos, I believe, and 13 decommissioned in reserve. The first 5 Ticos (CG-47 through CG-51) have been scrapped, with the exception of CG-50 which was sunk as a target vessel in 2006.
The way they ranked the various countries was pretty arbitrary. For France and Britain the only component of their navies which matter are their nuclear attack submarines armed with ICBMs tipped with warheads containing several nuclear MIRVs. In that respect the two countries are evenly matched. It's obvious from the Russian experience in the Black Sea that surface ships are very vulnerable to drones so they simply don't really matter, at least until a defense is found against naval drones.
The real difference is that when French SSBNs carry out tests to launch intercontinental nuclear missiles they work correctly and when they are English submarines there are critical failures, once it works twice it is a catastrophe for English nuclear deterrence
Can't wait to see number 1 - no spoilers, guys!
At some point, Pepsi-Cola could be included in the list of leaders of this rating. They had 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate, and a destroyer.
This is what blows your mind (and don't mind that it was floating scrap metal).
Your reactions are well liked!
Hello from France! Don't get mad. Our aircraft carrier is nuclear AND they forgot our nuclear submarines too ^^
Plus, there is a difference between aircraft carriers. American and french carriers have a catapult which double their efficiency.
But I understand that you don't like his way of defining which navy is more powerful. Let's say we are equal on that and that we need to unite to hope being half as powerful as the US 😂
Man you are just PUMPING out content this week
Hahahaha, "America is gonna be the number one, thats fine". Didnt have to hear your accent or see you, just that sentence alone made me think, thats a brit coping with the fact that Royal Navy is not the largest most dangerous navy anymore. Love your channel and content, you make a lot of people smile, thank you.
With our fleet comes actual BATTLE experience.....
Awesome and funny reaction
Funny thing is the US coastal patrol ships are mostly in the US Coast Guard which aren't shown.
During war the Coast Guard is incorporated into the US Navy.
National Security Cutters 8
High Endurance Cutters 2
Medium Endurance Cutters 28
Fast Response Cutters 41
Patrol Boats 90
To be fair though the UK is going through a massive update on its boats. We are currently phasing out our old frigates and building new state of the art ones. 2 types, 1 which is expensive and has all the bells and whistles and one that is cheaper to bulk up the force. Do this video in 10 years time when all the subs and frigates are build and we will be second.
btw portuguese navy is about to aquire 16 new vessels i think including 2 smaller subs( older subs-trident class has 70m lenght) and the objective is to improve naval counter sabotage, and anti sub capabilities. doing so using the fewer man possible wich means boats fairly efficient
#2 is U.S. MUSEUMS. #3 is U.S. citizens.
Got my Chuug in the mail this week. Absolutely love that thing.
The French Navy is capable of operating globally and conducting expeditionary missions, maintaining a significant overseas presence. The French Navy is one of eight naval forces currently operating fixed-wing aircraft carriers,[Note 1] with its flagship Charles de Gaulle being the only nuclear-powered aircraft carrier outside the United States Navy, and one of two non-American vessels to use catapults to launch aircraft.[7]
Currently Turkey is building 30 army vessels in the decks simultaneously. Now 7 frigates, 6 open sea patrol ships, 5 type 214 submarines, 8 fast landing docks and more are building now. Turkish indigenous aircraft carrier is in design stage. Also 1 corvette for Ukraine and 1 corvette for Pakistan is building in Turkish docks while 3 corvette deal made with Malesia and soon will be started. Turkey will become stronger Navy Asset in Nato in next 5-10 years.
It will never match the US, but it can maybe beat Italy or France, but we and the French are rearming too, so I’m not 100% sure
Nop. That s not gonna happen .French and UK spend much money for their army
The French Navy pioneered several innovations in naval technology, including the first steam-powered ship of the line, first seagoing ironclad warship, first mechanically propelled submarine, first steel-hulled warship, and first armoured cruiser.
The French Navy consists of six main components: the Naval Action Force, the Submarine Forces (FOST and ESNA), French Naval Aviation, the Navy Riflemen (including Naval Commandos), the Marseille Naval Fire Battalion, and the Maritime Gendarmerie. As of 2021, the French Navy employed 44,000 personnel (37,000 military and 7,000 civilian), more than 180 ships, 200 aircraft, and six commandos units;[9] as of 2014, its reserve element numbered roughly 48,000.[10]
It operates a wide range of fighting vessels, including various aeronaval forces, attack and ballistic missile submarines, frigates, patrol boats and support ships, with aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle serving as the centerpiece of most expeditionary forces.
Died laughing.. spit out my food lmao love it
Funny thing is they didn't show the entire force of the navies Fx: Poland has 2 frigatees (soon will have 3 new ones) 2 corvettes, mine warfare ships, a sub (soon will buy 3 new ones) but it as o has amphibious landing ships that can als o double as mine deploying ships (unless they got added into the mine warfare ship category) ENLIT ships.
Lets be honest, anything short of three aricraft carriers is not a reliable force.
Only when you want to invade Countries on the other side of the planet.
How about the strongest in the world not just NATO..
i was laughing the whole time because i knew France had a decent fleet. Unfortunately the UK is in a bit of a crisis ATM. I have to say though i think it was a mistake not including logistic vessels, The Canadian navy is in the process of acquiring a new fleet and the re-supply ship is probably the coolest one. They may not carry big guns but the rest of the fleet would be dead in the water without them.
The deal with Canada will end up being a treaty allowing for use of arctic ports and economic growth for trade. Just modifications to existing deals. If Greenland becomes independent from Denmark think of year around winter sports resorts, development and exploitation of resources not allowed by Denmark.
You had to be prepared ffor this, the UK has been slashing it's defense budget by a HUGE amount over the last decade.
Polish navy ships frigate Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate we bought from USA, other frigates Gawron class are made in house in Gdynia Shipyard, our submarine "Orzeł"(Eagle) is a Kilo class sub bought from russia in 1986, later modified in Poland. Almost all minewarfare ships are made in huse in Gdynia Shipyard.
I was in the US Navy in the mid-80s. Things must have really changed because I agree with you, about Britain should have been second. From I remember, the train was more important than numbers or even equipment. The French navy is no joke, but sorties with France was always a struggle. We all thought of the English Navy and its personnel as eguals. Not just because of the language barriers that were petty small but because anything naval needs to be done in a presice and deliberate manner. Staunch and starch, like is the best way to go.and nobody does that better than the Britts. That's why they have always been and always will be one of the greatest naval powers the world has ever seen.
Where the heck were the cruisers?
9 cruisers that are basically on their way out, and those cruisers aren't more powerful than the Destroyers in US Navy. their radars are aging as well and they always hang around carriers as missile barges, since other newer ships with better electronics and radars can control weapons from other ships in the fleet. Thus today Tico's are mostly used as an missile barge and Arleigh Burk class Batch 3 are basically taking over the role until DDG(X) are being build
Remember we patrole greenland and the faroe islands. Thats also the reason our patrole and frigates are quite large, as they can handle the rought seas
Love your vids, but the UK's aircraft carriers are are kind of really big helicopter carriers with a ski jump (and limited fixed wing fighter availability), while the slightly smaller French de Gaulle is kind a 2/3 size Nimitz class (half the displacement, but about 3/4 the length and beam) nuclear powered CATOBAR carrier. The French have fully integrated with a US carrier air wing on board George H.W. Bush while the de Gaulle was undergoing refit. You should check out some vids on Chesapeake 2018.
My dude, the Royal Navy is the anemic shadow of the shadow of it's former self and it makes me sad.
Sorry brohams, Sun doesn't set on America now.
All of the currently ongoing projects will be completed within 5 years and Türkiye will easily take the 2nd place.
You jinxed it mate! All your fault! ;D
As for shipbuilding, not sure about other nations, but the new Surface ships for SE navy(4 planned) are designed by UK Babcock and swedish Saab, ship hull will probably be built in Poland and the rest of the work done in Sweden. Similiarly, the newly commisioned SIGINT ship HMS Artemis(wasn't included here) had the hull built in Poland and the rest done in Sweden.
The new submarines that are under construction are done in Sweden, also by Saab.
also italy has 3 helicopter carriers, the santi class
We we're one Navy, then y'all F'ckd it up!
Im back again, wathing from 11:40 its priceless.
Don't forget about Amphibious Assault Ships (LHA-7)
I have 5 mine crafts.... wait a second...... HOLD UP!!!!
Hello from France. We love you guy
I hope your business goes well
WHAT UK the 52nd state? DIBS!!!!!
DUDE!!! It would not be fair to the rest of the world if we combine the Royal Navy and America's Navy 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪😎😎😎😎. We would be able to take ANY country in weeks
They probonly ranked them via displacment. The swedish corvets are carbon finer hence have very low displacment. Much lower thsn for example the smaller norwegan eqvivalent.
The subs are also fairly compact.
And thr "patroll" ships. That would be the CB90 that is really assult ships. They are light weight aluminium.
Bulgaria has a coast on the Black Sea and so does Romania.
See, I feel like even though our governments like each other, I don't feel like to many brits particularly like Americans and vice versa
Put all NATO nations that operate in the Baltic combine them and you soon will realize that the Baltic sea is the most well defended sea in the world. (Russian entire fleet in the Baltic sea is a total of 43 surface ships and one submarine.)
The Canadian navy was having a standoff with China in the West Philippine Sea last week and US had to go save Canada. I believe it was the HMCS Ottawa
Kind of sad to see but true that Polish navy is pretty much non-existent. Feels like it used to be slightly better 20+ years ago, but now its just scrapyard. My dad was in navy so I was on the ships very often as a kid and basically thats the only good thing for me about it, having those memories of having a good time spent there as a kid.
It is correct that the French are second, the French Navy is just that much bigger and has more resources available than the Royal Navy, the video has nothing about how to have the best-trained men, but how to have the most ships and tonnage, and the French navy outmatch Royal Navy on that. It is a sad fact for the Brits, but you have to live with that. One major thing the French Navy are extremely good at compared to the Royal Navy, is how efficient they are at servicing their ships and building new modern ships, they rarely have downtime and most of their ships are active, instead of Royal navy where 60++% of the ships are in dock for repairs
Sweden has 298 patrol ships because they list all small combat boats and light boats as patrol ships. While countries like Norway that have also the same type of ships, don't list them at all
The RN established best naval doctrine ever!
Luxembourg. Land locked Luxembourg has the second largest navy.
You can argue the quality of the Royal Navy... but the quantity is a pitiful shadow of even the 80's. And then you have to think of UK defense spending... how many of those ships are putting to sea with full magazines? How many aircraft are available for the 2 aircraft carriers? Are both carriers available at the same time? European NATO navies have sadly devlolved into a coastal defense force..
I think the last U.S. defense secretary told the UK to focus on Europe and leave the Pacific to the U.S....
Don't get pissed at France, it's your political party that keeps slashing funding for the Royal Navy. It's just not very big anymore. I think what you have is good quality, and well trained crews, you just don't have very much of it.
13:25 Hear me out, what if the U.S., Canada, the U.K., New Zealand, and Australia became one country... They said the sun nevee sets on the British empire. Now, its Americas turn to be an empire, and the sun always rises in the American empire
Technically, France is the country with the most time zones and therefore truly the only country in the world where the sun never sets.😁
Let's unite the UK and US navy together and just name it The United Navy
or the united fools...
@@_o.O__ lol stay mad
@@Fattyyyyx Am I.. you guys are just trying to keep being relevant in some way with that....Are you afraid that when India will get strong It will get it's revenge? so you need some ensurance?
And you guys in this shit are just in front of us in Italy xD haahaa
Bro I love Britain but🤷♂️the strongest Naval Ally to the US is Japan. Japan trains more and Has more ships than UK. Japan also because of its proximity with China also does more joint training with the US than Britain. Unfortunately UK leaders do not put defense as a big priority in budget
It's still crazy that your former colonizers with whom you have been at war since your independence in 1812 if I remember correctly are more popular than your OLDEST ALLY (1776) who fought for you to be a country and who has never been at war with you. It's just completely incomprehensible.
No, it's France.
I love you hatin' on the French.
Probably because France has aircraft with airplanes 😂
It helps that she makes them herself and that she makes her own ships too.
Most of the Easter European countries, like Bulgaria, and, Croatia are reliant on Soviet Cold War leftovers. Poland, on the other hand, bought their two frigates from the US. They're decommissioned Oliver Hazard Perry Class FFGs.
Listen, I believe the Royal Navy is better trained then France. Please don't feel bad. You have only so much money. You also have universal healthcare and more going to your schools. Second place is really just because they have more ships, not better training, and you KNOW it's not so much the size, it's how you use it. ;)
You know, to be well trained you have to do exercises, blue water training, which is what the French Navy does because it has decent funding, but which the Royal Navy no longer does due to lack of budget, so probably the French Navy is better trained than the Royal Navy.
Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the sea
That was before.🤣🤣
US Navy... also the second largest Air Force in the World, just after the USAF 😁
If the US adds a left leaning state we will need a right leaning state too so Canada and England?
UK should buy the USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) before she is scraped she headed there now than they would at least have a super carrier ! Maybe u can crowd fund it !
UK should be the 52nd state of US.
If they could drag the isles away fro the EU while colonizing it would be better since the U.S need to stay as far as it can be kept from the EU... it has already too much influence in whats going on...
No explanation for those rankings make this video sort of irrelevant. Norway ahead of Sweden? Did a Norwegian make this video or something? lol
What an absolutely no effort video the one you reacted to . Why not check out something like Finnish soldiers train NATO Allies in winter survival skills
What of course we are superior 🎉😅
Much of the facts in this video is wrong.
This is why France is #2. The UK has never operated a nuclear-powered surface ship. Your CV's are limited by fuel and thus decrease of air wing size. PUT 1 just ONE CVN and you would be top dog.
@@thekraken1173 Well actually no, France has more bases abroad and around the world thanks to its islands than the United Kingdom, it is placed in number just behind the USA.
@ Why pull numbers out of your ass when the internet exists? It's either cretinism or proof of microcephaly.
Trump's manifest destiny
Well we Germans are a land force and not a Marine force.
Quite so. I've always argued that's why we, Britain and Germany, reached a stalemate in WWII. German Land forces were supreme, British Sea power was supreme and we had a bit of a tied result on Air power. We couldn't keep you out of Western Europe but you couldn't get to us to finish us off. I have also always said that without Churchill we would have signed a treaty with Germany a little while after the Battle of Britain - that really opens up the gates of Alternative History What If's :D
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this video is really outdated and didn't show a lot of the new ships that were made in the past couple of years
The Americans are British....I mean, they speak English (from England, I may add) and many of their locations are named after our counties or cities. We were the majority colonists.
...What are you smoking? Because it's gotta be amazing to come up wiht that sort of conclusion.
We are not British not even close speak for yourself !
Baton Rouge, Des Moines, le Maine, la nouvelle Orléans, la Louisiane etc. etc... Aucun doute les USA sont français.🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that the second ACTUAL second third and blah blah blah until you even get to france... Man this video sucks. (there's not yours) how do you not have CHINA... RUSSIA... JAPAN.... What??? Obvious joke video
They don't have China, Russia and Japan because those aren't members of NATO...the video was specifically about NATO countries.
Your ready skills are not high ! (IN NATO) !
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