Isn't that the truth I had one place tell me they'd hire me on part time for 3 months to see how I'd do, then give me a full-time manager position after I finished additional on the job training and a full-time position. Well 6 months into the job and a whole lot of BS and praise later from my boss and I was still never given that manager position than suddenly someone gets hired in for that position I was supposed to be given instead (and on her first day completely breaks the computer system as well which was great) and I walked up to my boss and said I quit.
@@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this. Where I live, large store chains hire people fresh out of uni for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this. Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this. Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this. Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
Current hiring practices have destroyed my career. Its just that simple. Not a single employer gives a damn about anything you did of merit.....they are obsessed with painting you into a bad light, even when there is no bad light. It is the most bizzare thing I have ever seen. They just keep trolling the internet like a child let loose in a candy store.
the problem with "getting involved" with your coworkers is a.) your coworkers can always backstab you at any time, and b.) your company can fire you at any time for any stupid reason. so being "part of the tribe" was really just a waste of time!
I did this at a company. I carved out a solid place for me, replaced 3 people and managed to avoid burnout for 6 years. I never switched bc the company medical benefits outweighed every other consideration because of my disabled spouse and special needs children. My loyalty, overtime, and dedication to quality was repaid with a layoff a week after the company was bought. What no one talks about with career risk is that it is a privilege to be able to take a risk on a job or project or position. When you’re the sole provider and a layoff could mean losing your house and definitely means losing the healthcare coverage your family desperately needs, it’s not “laziness” to become “complacent” It’s really hard to not be bitter when the above happens multiple times in a few years…
@@BOSSDONMAN I didn't job hop from that one position because the benefits were better than anywhere else I was seeing and needed it for my disabled family members.
@@Drakelis100% yes!!! There are just shitty companies, that bait you to buy into their bs. I was employed by a company that overworked my direct boss and myself, running a unit of 200+ workers to death with. They took away my then boss, didn't give me raise but all his responcibilites. Enjoyed record profitability, with changes i made. Reward? Reward was seeing seeing people 2 positions under me getting paid more, for doing 1/5 of the job for smaller units. Once i quit, they gave more interesting job with no raise, and had to replace my old position with 6. Lirerally 6 people, out of whom they paid 3, better than myself only for them tank the whole account. It's easy to fall victim to shitty predatory employers, as there just are so many around.
The problem with being social with colleagues and supervisors is the entitlement they feel to inquire or want to know your personal business. To me it's inappropriate to ask someone about their marital status, if they have children, their after hours plans, etc. Expecting coworkers to be friends and overstep boundaries is what creates toxic workplace culture. UGH. 😔😔
After a while, you learn that a co-worker you were somewhat friendly/social with only wants to be around you to know what you are doing next--only to be surprised when I gage her the response, "I don't know" LOL. She thought I was not on to her.
I've never had a job where work didn't suck. There's a reason I take money to do boring and/or challenging work. But, I have had quite a few Jobs that had a pleasant work environment, low stress, and high pay with good benefits and home life balance.
I prefer to work remote as everything in the office is extremely distracting. The air system, people talking, people getting up and moving (low cube walls and an open office plan)...to me, there is NO real benefit to going into an office. (Not to mention the long, traffic filled, commute)
For some folks who are neurodivergent, it can be hard to stay productive if they are also trying to juggle socializing in the office, so the first point could be adapted a bit. If you’re trying to move up, it is still important not to isolate yourself at work, but you also have to establish boundaries so you can focus on your work. Perhaps set aside some time each week where the goal is specifically to chat with coworkers or participate in other social/networking events at work. For example, I’ll sometimes set up 15 minute zoom calls with coworkers where the goal is just to chat casually, whether it’s about work, outside of work or anything else
I actually do the opposite when I can. I'll block out a few four hour chunks during the week as a "Do Not Disturb" session. I basically isolate myself and focus on the work, especially the technical portions that take so much longer when constantly interrupted. Since most people only do about 15-20 hours of actual productive work a week, I can get my bit done so I don't feel like the socializing is ruining my productivity.
@@FriendofWigner oh for sure. Everybody’s got their own techniques that work for them. I was just throwing out one example of something I’ve tried to do 👍🏼 The broader point was just, sometimes the one size fits all career advice doesn’t work for everybody
I stayed at a company for 12 years because I was dealing with other things in my life at the time (debt issues and a new marriage) so the last thing I wanted to add to that was the stress of a new job. It was the worst decision of my life. At the job I knew I was written off for any more advanced roles at the company after about 4 years but I stayed. After 10 years they basically demoted me but dressed it up like a promotion. 😞
I worked in tech for almost 10 years at various companies. While I appreciate the tips, positive projection doesn't magically fix anything. Corporate environments are a husk of what they once were. I often saw the least technical person get the promotion because of connections. Gaslighting and low salary offers were as common as breathing air. Corporations need to wake up and value their employees. Of course this will never happen, company’s cost savings for their customers will always be at the expense of their employees.
That’s why I work in a smaller software company, most of the upper management are programmers themselves and when I go talk to my boss and tell him “yeah I told the PM there’s no way we’re deploying on Friday” he understands 😂
I worked for a company that heavily relied on interpersonal relationships to keep going. Many people were nearing the end of their career and worked more than the allotted hours to bring projects to a good finish. The main challenge was intergenerational transfer of knowledge and bringing up the systems up to current standards after they were treated as the pet project of whoever ran the department for the last few decades. The board decided on two things: a) give everybody a wage scale based on the job they were supposed to be doing. Not just cap their wage for the remaining years, but the insult of being "demoted" on top of it. New hires would be done based on this, not on the actual job that needed to be done. b) cut overtime, telling them that needing overtime means you are incapable of doing your job properly While I do understand the need for standardization, the needless insults that came with it were just baffling. Also, for some unexplainable reason, people stopped putting effort into the projects. And totally unrelated (probably) several young people left. But they saved the company millions!
I’ve been experiencing workplace toxicity for nearly a year now because of a manager that came in and took over my team around that time. I recognize an agree with these suggestions, but I will say it’s incredibly hard to focus when you’re under such terrible circumstances. I desperately want out of my situation, but by the time the day is done, I’m so emotionally exhausted that it’s hard to find the Will and energy to job hunt. I wish I had an easy answer to this Situation. Maybe somebody else does?
I'd like to comment you on writing so thoughtfully. Wish I could write in English so good. May I suggest that you carve time in the morning to plan for your career change since you're so exhausted after work.
Question: I took on more responsibility at my current employment, yet I have not received any "benefits" from it. Nor am I really getting constructive feedback regarding what I need to do better, or what I have done to better the company. Why take risks if the company is not going to give you any reward? Or I guess that's the point and it's time to start actively searching?
I hear you. I took on some big projects, put in lots of extra hours and gave my very best… And it culminated in a performance review where my boss rated me just low enough to wear they didn’t have to pay me my full bonus. I can acknowledge that we all have areas of improvement, but I was absolutely floored that she felt those challenges overshadowed all my accomplishments. It’s definitely time to move on. Sounds like you might be in a similar position
move on. more responsibility just means they are too cheap to hire more people and are willing to burden you with it. They are getting more out of you for less money.
If you keep waiting for the company to come and give you a raise, you’re gonna be waiting forever. Prepare a detailed list of all the things you’ve done and request a meeting with your manager, explain to them what the situation is. This puts the pressure on them, cause if you are the top performer, nobody in their right mind will want to lose you.
I did all of those things in my current company and still got passed over for a promotion for someone who was not even qualified to do the job. Her team is coming to ME for advice on how to handle things. I refuse to be a "team" player ever again.
What kinda corporate bullshit is this - gimme remote all day. I can get my social activity outside the workplace thank you very much, and I'll be better for it too.
Based on the obvious hostility even in that short comment it’s clear your kind of a misanthropic person and likely not the target audience of the video, reasonably normal people
Yeah, I'm at the stage of my life were I can't be bother to feel incentivize by the corporate carrot. I worked management jobs - no thank you! Never again. Did it three times at three different companies and all them required screwing over my team and just nodding along with whatever the boss decided ("sorry sir, but that's consumer fraud" did not go over well). I'm just not management material, and knowing that as low man on totem will make me expendable, I now don't suffer from loyalty issues toward my employers. I'll happily jump ship 2 weeks into a new job if the newer job has offered me something more than the previous job. I mean while bother being loyal, they'll just lay me off in 6 months to a year anyway to boost their artificial profit margins anyway. Helps that I also work for myself on the side so I always have FU money.
I liked @ALifeAfterLayoff advices for remote workers to try working in coffee shops, and to set up zoom sessions with coworkers. I love my remote jobb, but I also love my humanness
Bruh human interaction is awful, majority of people are useless and unenjoyable to even engage with and all they do is waste my time while making excuses for wasting my time as they fuck me in the ass as they waste my time. Never meet a single person I enjoyed spending 30 minutes with let alone felt like I wanted to spend my life with. Only human interaction I want with people is work related outside of that I couldn't give to shit what going on with my co-worker's lives because I know they don't give one shit what going on with mine and even if they act like they do they're just wasting my time and playing stupid head games that I want no part of. Also, the whole blaming yourself situation for failure is example of horrible advice, sometimes your just setup for failure by people who suck a boss, co-worker, a parent I can't control uncontrollably situations if I walk into work and I'm told I need do 16 hours of work in 8 hours cause bob didn't show up for work today and somehow that now my fault how fuck do I succeed? And if I say no and I'm told I can't say no, what am I supposed to do? IMO a lot this advice is garbage, especially if someone is comfortable in their life, why should they take risk if they have a comfortable job and make a nice living? What hell point in risking what they have if they don't need too.
I absolutely hate micromanagers. It's one thing to train newbies on the job, or provide people feedback within their first 4 months, but to micromanage and be toxic while gaslighting staff calling them sh!trbags even though they have plenty of experience is just a thin grey line away from straightup criminal activity. Sorry, I AM triggered. Thank you for this video though, really needed it.
I quit my previous job as a tech support supervisor cause they were forcing me to track people minute by minute. Like…want to go buy a soda, want to make a coffee, want to smoke a cig? You have 30 mins total per day, then I had to tell the guys they can’t leave their desk….Fuck that.
I have about 15 years experience in IT, started at 17 and went through all the shitty hardware/tech support jobs you can think off, freelanced as a web dev on the side, which helped me get a job as a dev. But I still felt just as miserable on a desk as I did wiring cables in an office on a Sunday. That’s until I found my current job 6 years ago, been here ever since. I wake up on a Monday and don’t feel shitty about going to work. The people working in the teams, as well as the managers are incredible people, most of them have become friends over the years. This is due to the recruiters, they make sure new candidates fit the culture first.
For me it's having to go to the office and sitting around strangers while all my team are remote that is more distressing. Next job must be either all are remote or all are hybrid. Commuting to a lonely office is what makes me super miserable. Cant wait to quit.
Your point on having a career strategy is a really good point. I find myself agreeing to that point a lot nowadays. Yes, soaking up too much negativity is not good! Some places do promote people, but offer dry promotions. I was in a situation like that not so long ago, and it did hurt me for a few months. This made me realise that the only way to climb the corporate ladder is to move between ladders.
2:55 sounds like some RTO propaganda a corporate executive would say. At the end of the day, your coworkers and managers are functionally enemies. You are part of the same cost center and competing with each other for a limited budget of raises and bonuses.
I forgot about why i left a great paying job where i could ask for more work and a sense of belonging. But each place i worked was disturbingly isolating with no human contact and long hours and i so wanted to inform my manager why i left and left this part out when they asked me why i was leaving. Mine was abrupt because the moving company came the wrong month and I had to scramble to secure that mover and ended up leaving without giving notice so they could hire a replacement for me. But was glad they worked with me on short notice. Really glad you touched on this issue.
I still don't fucking understand whats so great about "moving up in your career?" The only reward you get is more work, longer hours, more stress, and marginally better pay which you'll never get to use because you're too busy working and kissing ass!
I agree. Once you reach a decent salary that you can live off of and have a solid amount of spending money for personal enjoyment, there's really no reason to desire growth imo. If I make good money, why would I care about moving up and getting more responsibilities and hours? I really don't see the point and I completely disagree when he implied that not wanting to move up in your career constantly is lazy
What if you are a true introvert and like working in isolation? The best job I ever had was being in charge of contraband in a MH facility. My office space was a tiny closet and I loved it.
Wow.. thanks for the reality check. I'll have to listen back again later and actually take notes. Thank you for all the useful information you provide.
I wouldn't hate my career if i could do the work that i want to but i need 60-100k in degrees to do the work i want to do so i work a job i dont like to pay bills.
Here is the thing everyone is in a different boat. Some have years if not decades of experience working in the same field of work. Some are more willingly to work OT alot some dont want that. Employers laying off people left and right nowadays also very Tight job market despite of "awesomne" job reports... lol of bunch of low paying bs jobs. Some are in managerial positions bc of their dedication, seniority, and skills. Some do the bare minimum and want to clock out. Taking a risk? This is my main points. Taking online classes most are expensive or pursuing for a higher degree like a masters, or Certificate or license can be costly and makes people go in more DEBT. I dont like putting myself in more debt. I hate owing money to anyone. Let alone interest rates, penalties, and fees that might accrue if you fail your classes, lose interest, or a personal issue comes up. Taking a RISK whether its calculated or not might work and who knows really help you succeed in life in general or you might lose it all. Thats why majority people are "comfortable" in their specific situation. They dont want to go more in debt or crazy expensive loan, or risk losing their home, car, family, etc. America is a business thats all it is at the end of the day all about money, and how lenders, companies, stakeholders, co-founders and whatever control the system of lending, and controlling our finances and our debts. People switch jobs more often now like every 2-3 years for most. People want flexibility not a written in stone you have to work 8 hours a day and thats it. Work to life balance, adjusted wage inflation pay, and low taxes, with decent benefits. Is it a crime to want to enjoy life outside work? Being a wage slave in the system until we die? and no im not promoting laziness. Dont get me started on the joke of vacation days employers provide its a cruel joke lol heres one week paid vacation per year lmfao. Thats why people had enough being taken advantage of i dont blame them. Oh after working here for 10-20 years will give you another week thats almost a 1/4 of your life gone. Lastly management some of these "bosses" or "Supervisors" might be great people but there is alot of them that will throw you under the bus. Example if you make one or two small mistakes and might just not like you as a person even if you dont cause problems, are quiet maybe your introverted, and are not "engaging" enough they will give you warnings or possible termination. Its a cruel world.
What happens when you end up regretting every career decision you made over the past 20 years, even when you thought the decisions were good? And when you ask people how THEY succeeded, they just shrug and tell you to keep plugging away at it? 🤷🏻♂️🙄
Almost sounds like it's endorsing "work hard, party hard" atmosphere, and hanging out the "it growd". Did HR and recruitment for a company, where everyone seemed to appreciate my work and kept piling more, but just seemed not to like me as a person. It sucked sooooo hard. Took a risk and started at entry level on a different field, but enjoying working with people, who likes to work with me. Pretty sure i didn't change, except of still carrying depression. Just stopped working against my core values.
Thank you for your content! As someone who is switching careers to something more of a desk job, it’s very helpful to have pointers, optimism, and potential pitfalls to avoid. It’s interesting to read the comments and see the attitudes I might face in the workplace. Thank you for your contributions!
haha, I took a risk 2 years ago, the job was a cultural 180, for the worse, so much busy work it was like drinking from a fire hose with nearly 0 support, burnt out after 4 months, went back to my old job and swore I'd never leave. Not learning new personalities ANYMORE.
As someone who has autism, getting a good social circle is not an option at all and unfortunately is next to impossible unless if i happen to find someone who's similar situation as me This makes it miserable socially regardless as i tend to be treated as an outcast even if i don't try Currently unemployed though for a year and don't see it getting any better so its not like it matters anymore
Fellow autist here. The fact that social interaction doesn't come naturally to us makes working that muscle all the more important for both mental and physical health. I've learned a good counselor and a good church go a long way.
I disagree that we shouldn't compare ourselves to our peers. At some point, we should! If you work at a job for 4 years and you are still getting paid the same entry level salary that you got hired in at, that should be questioned. Even after you gained so many skills and proved your proficiency in these skills, companies need a reality check every now and then when talents leave for better opportunities.
Awwww....i like this.....this is the lighter part of Bryan's reality checks that I like. I agree. I did this when I was at Dell and continued doing that in my current organization!
These days are mostly Customers first over the employes. I had a manager who focused too much on clients over the working ethics and norm we workers had to follow. I'm glad the current grocery allowed me to do my best and not pressure in my job unlike the previous one
I forgot to mention most no longer care if the workers are students and need a stable job to balance the schedule. This is the situation in Canada right now
Need help. Got laid off in late May. I've been looking since Jan though (so 8+ months now). This market is so incredibly competitive. Ghost jobs everywhere but we have to take that chance anyway. Perfect fit, but not hearing back because it's simply competitive, there are a lot of perfect fits. My question is, how do you manage the inevitable discouragement of not having any progress on the jobs you've applied to when you have 10+ irons per week in the fire, and customize your resume to each one, ensuring you're a match in the first place?
@@asadb1990 Interesting. I have a friend who's been in security for years and is now unemployed. Applied for a security role - contract is all that was available in his area - and at the last minute, they rug pulled him. Either they didn't need the security after all, or they just found someone cheaper. I would be interested to see what your experience getting hired (even if you rejected the offer - just for testing the theory) would be for getting a night-time security role in 2024? It really is competitive out there. I've always been able to land a job within a month or so, never took me 8+ months before. This is different. Thanks for the tip, though. For now it makes more sense to use the time provided by unemployment benefits to level up skills and keep working on the actual roles I'm targeting since unemployment benefits will be taken away once you make more than $300/week at another job, so that's not a long-term plan in my case, but if nearing the end of the benefits, we still don't have something, I will check that out as an alternative, though it's not likely to pay the bills, it can help us go on a little longer, I'll just be pretty tired when it's time to do morning or day-time interviews, but you do what you gotta do in 2024.
@@asadb1990 Youre funny. You're saying it as if its easy. Why don't you make a video showing that it's that easy? You have 24 hours to prove you get a non self employed career. Its that easy right? You shouldn't have any issues. I will be waiting. You don't have to accept the job by the way so you have no excuses
Also unfortunately you got laid off at the wrong time. I know people who have a lot of experience struggling too to find a job which is why nobody is quitting. Dont think i can even stand a chance in this economy anymore
Always skipped company parties. Big career mistake to do so. I am no alcohol, no sugar person. So it is really hard. My classmates got really good jobs by hanging out at the bars. Easy to make connections.
I always tell younger guys to attend company parties, job fairs and as many conferences as possible. You don’t have to drink, you have to socialise…and I’m an introvert, but I view this as a part of the job. Events like these are full of likeminded peers, recruiters, CEOs, entrepreneurs, etc…Every contact you create opens up opportunities and makes you less reliant on your current employer.
My struggle is that I work in an exempt and excluded position (no over time pay), but the long work hours seems to be a norm. So is it really worth it, chasing the salary and trading off time.
Customer is abroad. I do a good job and our management hears about it, wonders how come cause they think if I don't kiss their behind I'm a generally bad guy. Doesn't matter much since they're just waiting for all the projects to end to close everything down.
What if the job sucks, it is downstreak to my career but it is better then nothing? At least it is remote and I can continue to seek better opportunity.
I don't think there are any five star employers anymore but if you know of one, please comment. A five star employer is one that: - provides career mentoring and training - they only fire people as an absolute last resort - employees rarely go on stress leave - a promotion doesn't mean just a new job title with 2% higher pay and 20% more work - their pay and benefits are competitive so they attract the best talent
How come subordinates can't say "No" to managers that are really bad managers? Why do they get to fail and keep their jobs, and why are subordinates expected to follow failures blindly? 🤣
I’ve heard you mention in a couple places about niching down and having a clear trajectory in one’s career. In that vein, would it be bad if a person working in business/sales for a couple of years, but is at a low salary bracket, went to work for close to double their pay in a manufacturing labor job while they tried to get a different job in business/sales?
I used to have a union job where I was very miserable there, was extremely underpaid and I was looked down on a lot. Now with my non-union job I'm a lot happier, appreciated and made at least double my annual income than that of my union job. What a country! 🤷
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For me, work typically doesn’t suck. It’s usually the people that’ll suck
True. The work may be decent, but ppl sometimes can be a bit annoying depending on who you work with
People do make jobs suck.
Feel you there mate.
Agreed
The management suck big time 😂
I'm just sick of employers that will straight out lie to get a person to come work for them and then never deliver.
Isn't that the truth I had one place tell me they'd hire me on part time for 3 months to see how I'd do, then give me a full-time manager position after I finished additional on the job training and a full-time position. Well 6 months into the job and a whole lot of BS and praise later from my boss and I was still never given that manager position than suddenly someone gets hired in for that position I was supposed to be given instead (and on her first day completely breaks the computer system as well which was great) and I walked up to my boss and said I quit.
@@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this.
Where I live, large store chains hire people fresh out of uni for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this.
Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this.
Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
@All0Mighty0Power Yeah. "Starting out as xxx" is a classic deception. Many people fall for this.
Where I live, large chains hire fresh out of uni candidates for leadership positions, claiming they first need to spend time on the floor to "learn the ropes" for 2 years. After those two years have passed: "unfortunately no positions are available. We are open about this and you are free to leave, no hard feelings". On the next job hunt those university graduates have to explain their prospect next employers why they have no real experience besides stacking shelves.
Current hiring practices have destroyed my career. Its just that simple. Not a single employer gives a damn about anything you did of merit.....they are obsessed with painting you into a bad light, even when there is no bad light. It is the most bizzare thing I have ever seen. They just keep trolling the internet like a child let loose in a candy store.
the problem with "getting involved" with your coworkers is a.) your coworkers can always backstab you at any time, and b.) your company can fire you at any time for any stupid reason. so being "part of the tribe" was really just a waste of time!
I did this at a company. I carved out a solid place for me, replaced 3 people and managed to avoid burnout for 6 years. I never switched bc the company medical benefits outweighed every other consideration because of my disabled spouse and special needs children.
My loyalty, overtime, and dedication to quality was repaid with a layoff a week after the company was bought.
What no one talks about with career risk is that it is a privilege to be able to take a risk on a job or project or position. When you’re the sole provider and a layoff could mean losing your house and definitely means losing the healthcare coverage your family desperately needs, it’s not “laziness” to become “complacent”
It’s really hard to not be bitter when the above happens multiple times in a few years…
@@DrakelisIt's only hiring managers and business owners I've seen who think job hopping is bad
@@BOSSDONMAN I didn't job hop from that one position because the benefits were better than anywhere else I was seeing and needed it for my disabled family members.
@@Drakelis100% yes!!! There are just shitty companies, that bait you to buy into their bs.
I was employed by a company that overworked my direct boss and myself, running a unit of 200+ workers to death with. They took away my then boss, didn't give me raise but all his responcibilites. Enjoyed record profitability, with changes i made.
Reward? Reward was seeing seeing people 2 positions under me getting paid more, for doing 1/5 of the job for smaller units. Once i quit, they gave more interesting job with no raise, and had to replace my old position with 6. Lirerally 6 people, out of whom they paid 3, better than myself only for them tank the whole account.
It's easy to fall victim to shitty predatory employers, as there just are so many around.
The problem with being social with colleagues and supervisors is the entitlement they feel to inquire or want to know your personal business. To me it's inappropriate to ask someone about their marital status, if they have children, their after hours plans, etc. Expecting coworkers to be friends and overstep boundaries is what creates toxic workplace culture. UGH. 😔😔
After a while, you learn that a co-worker you were somewhat friendly/social with only wants to be around you to know what you are doing next--only to be surprised when I gage her the response, "I don't know" LOL. She thought I was not on to her.
I’m bored at my job but I’m glad i don’t have much stress
Better to be bored than to suffer
I've never had a job where work didn't suck. There's a reason I take money to do boring and/or challenging work.
But, I have had quite a few Jobs that had a pleasant work environment, low stress, and high pay with good benefits and home life balance.
First point is incredibly biased, forced socialization is part of what makes so many jobs awful.
This.
Comparing workplace interactions to a newborn baby making physical touch with their mother is so insane
@@BOSSDONMAN Terrible but funny
Then work somewhere where you don’t have as much interaction. Quit your bitching and get to it
Work sucks and there's no option for me to not be miserable. I've learned to accept that.
I prefer to work remote as everything in the office is extremely distracting. The air system, people talking, people getting up and moving (low cube walls and an open office plan)...to me, there is NO real benefit to going into an office.
(Not to mention the long, traffic filled, commute)
I've always argued that your compensation is for being able to put up with jerks and idiots for eight hours, not just necessarily your labor.
For some folks who are neurodivergent, it can be hard to stay productive if they are also trying to juggle socializing in the office, so the first point could be adapted a bit. If you’re trying to move up, it is still important not to isolate yourself at work, but you also have to establish boundaries so you can focus on your work. Perhaps set aside some time each week where the goal is specifically to chat with coworkers or participate in other social/networking events at work. For example, I’ll sometimes set up 15 minute zoom calls with coworkers where the goal is just to chat casually, whether it’s about work, outside of work or anything else
Moving up is better to be done at new employer. Too much extra work at same employer. At current employer you are already overworked.
I actually do the opposite when I can. I'll block out a few four hour chunks during the week as a "Do Not Disturb" session. I basically isolate myself and focus on the work, especially the technical portions that take so much longer when constantly interrupted. Since most people only do about 15-20 hours of actual productive work a week, I can get my bit done so I don't feel like the socializing is ruining my productivity.
@@FriendofWigner oh for sure. Everybody’s got their own techniques that work for them. I was just throwing out one example of something I’ve tried to do 👍🏼 The broader point was just, sometimes the one size fits all career advice doesn’t work for everybody
How fucked as a society are we that this video is necessary?
In fairness, work has always sucked.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff No, it hasn't
@@ALifeAfterLayoff At good old times job itself was better (but paid less of course).
I stayed at a company for 12 years because I was dealing with other things in my life at the time (debt issues and a new marriage) so the last thing I wanted to add to that was the stress of a new job. It was the worst decision of my life.
At the job I knew I was written off for any more advanced roles at the company after about 4 years but I stayed. After 10 years they basically demoted me but dressed it up like a promotion. 😞
I worked in tech for almost 10 years at various companies. While I appreciate the tips, positive projection doesn't magically fix anything. Corporate environments are a husk of what they once were. I often saw the least technical person get the promotion because of connections. Gaslighting and low salary offers were as common as breathing air. Corporations need to wake up and value their employees. Of course this will never happen, company’s cost savings for their customers will always be at the expense of their employees.
That’s why I work in a smaller software company, most of the upper management are programmers themselves and when I go talk to my boss and tell him “yeah I told the PM there’s no way we’re deploying on Friday” he understands 😂
The MBAification of everything has destroyed America
I worked for a company that heavily relied on interpersonal relationships to keep going. Many people were nearing the end of their career and worked more than the allotted hours to bring projects to a good finish. The main challenge was intergenerational transfer of knowledge and bringing up the systems up to current standards after they were treated as the pet project of whoever ran the department for the last few decades.
The board decided on two things:
a) give everybody a wage scale based on the job they were supposed to be doing. Not just cap their wage for the remaining years, but the insult of being "demoted" on top of it. New hires would be done based on this, not on the actual job that needed to be done.
b) cut overtime, telling them that needing overtime means you are incapable of doing your job properly
While I do understand the need for standardization, the needless insults that came with it were just baffling.
Also, for some unexplainable reason, people stopped putting effort into the projects.
And totally unrelated (probably) several young people left.
But they saved the company millions!
I’ve been experiencing workplace toxicity for nearly a year now because of a manager that came in and took over my team around that time. I recognize an agree with these suggestions, but I will say it’s incredibly hard to focus when you’re under such terrible circumstances. I desperately want out of my situation, but by the time the day is done, I’m so emotionally exhausted that it’s hard to find the Will and energy to job hunt. I wish I had an easy answer to this Situation. Maybe somebody else does?
I'd like to comment you on writing so thoughtfully. Wish I could write in English so good. May I suggest that you carve time in the morning to plan for your career change since you're so exhausted after work.
take regular days off.
Got saving ? Buy a van go on a road trip we own nothing in life but the time we have left on this earth 🌎 ..
Question: I took on more responsibility at my current employment, yet I have not received any "benefits" from it.
Nor am I really getting constructive feedback regarding what I need to do better, or what I have done to better the company.
Why take risks if the company is not going to give you any reward?
Or I guess that's the point and it's time to start actively searching?
I hear you. I took on some big projects, put in lots of extra hours and gave my very best… And it culminated in a performance review where my boss rated me just low enough to wear they didn’t have to pay me my full bonus. I can acknowledge that we all have areas of improvement, but I was absolutely floored that she felt those challenges overshadowed all my accomplishments. It’s definitely time to move on. Sounds like you might be in a similar position
move on. more responsibility just means they are too cheap to hire more people and are willing to burden you with it. They are getting more out of you for less money.
If you keep waiting for the company to come and give you a raise, you’re gonna be waiting forever. Prepare a detailed list of all the things you’ve done and request a meeting with your manager, explain to them what the situation is. This puts the pressure on them, cause if you are the top performer, nobody in their right mind will want to lose you.
I did all of those things in my current company and still got passed over for a promotion for someone who was not even qualified to do the job. Her team is coming to ME for advice on how to handle things. I refuse to be a "team" player ever again.
Man, the stop comparing part of this video is what I needed to hear. Thanks!
What kinda corporate bullshit is this - gimme remote all day. I can get my social activity outside the workplace thank you very much, and I'll be better for it too.
How do you deliver food products remotely?
Based on the obvious hostility even in that short comment it’s clear your kind of a misanthropic person and likely not the target audience of the video, reasonably normal people
Yeah, I'm at the stage of my life were I can't be bother to feel incentivize by the corporate carrot. I worked management jobs - no thank you! Never again. Did it three times at three different companies and all them required screwing over my team and just nodding along with whatever the boss decided ("sorry sir, but that's consumer fraud" did not go over well). I'm just not management material, and knowing that as low man on totem will make me expendable, I now don't suffer from loyalty issues toward my employers. I'll happily jump ship 2 weeks into a new job if the newer job has offered me something more than the previous job. I mean while bother being loyal, they'll just lay me off in 6 months to a year anyway to boost their artificial profit margins anyway.
Helps that I also work for myself on the side so I always have FU money.
Unfortunately, everyone else wants those remote jobs too.
I liked @ALifeAfterLayoff advices for remote workers to try working in coffee shops, and to set up zoom sessions with coworkers. I love my remote jobb, but I also love my humanness
Bruh human interaction is awful, majority of people are useless and unenjoyable to even engage with and all they do is waste my time while making excuses for wasting my time as they fuck me in the ass as they waste my time. Never meet a single person I enjoyed spending 30 minutes with let alone felt like I wanted to spend my life with. Only human interaction I want with people is work related outside of that I couldn't give to shit what going on with my co-worker's lives because I know they don't give one shit what going on with mine and even if they act like they do they're just wasting my time and playing stupid head games that I want no part of. Also, the whole blaming yourself situation for failure is example of horrible advice, sometimes your just setup for failure by people who suck a boss, co-worker, a parent I can't control uncontrollably situations if I walk into work and I'm told I need do 16 hours of work in 8 hours cause bob didn't show up for work today and somehow that now my fault how fuck do I succeed? And if I say no and I'm told I can't say no, what am I supposed to do?
IMO a lot this advice is garbage, especially if someone is comfortable in their life, why should they take risk if they have a comfortable job and make a nice living? What hell point in risking what they have if they don't need too.
Yes
My job involves 99 percent sole working I enjoy the isolation and not putting up with other negative peoples bs and crushing work place polatics .
I absolutely hate micromanagers. It's one thing to train newbies on the job, or provide people feedback within their first 4 months, but to micromanage and be toxic while gaslighting staff calling them sh!trbags even though they have plenty of experience is just a thin grey line away from straightup criminal activity. Sorry, I AM triggered. Thank you for this video though, really needed it.
I quit my previous job as a tech support supervisor cause they were forcing me to track people minute by minute. Like…want to go buy a soda, want to make a coffee, want to smoke a cig? You have 30 mins total per day, then I had to tell the guys they can’t leave their desk….Fuck that.
I have about 15 years experience in IT, started at 17 and went through all the shitty hardware/tech support jobs you can think off, freelanced as a web dev on the side, which helped me get a job as a dev. But I still felt just as miserable on a desk as I did wiring cables in an office on a Sunday. That’s until I found my current job 6 years ago, been here ever since. I wake up on a Monday and don’t feel shitty about going to work. The people working in the teams, as well as the managers are incredible people, most of them have become friends over the years. This is due to the recruiters, they make sure new candidates fit the culture first.
Awesome
For me it's having to go to the office and sitting around strangers while all my team are remote that is more distressing. Next job must be either all are remote or all are hybrid. Commuting to a lonely office is what makes me super miserable. Cant wait to quit.
Your point on having a career strategy is a really good point. I find myself agreeing to that point a lot nowadays. Yes, soaking up too much negativity is not good! Some places do promote people, but offer dry promotions. I was in a situation like that not so long ago, and it did hurt me for a few months. This made me realise that the only way to climb the corporate ladder is to move between ladders.
2:55 sounds like some RTO propaganda a corporate executive would say. At the end of the day, your coworkers and managers are functionally enemies. You are part of the same cost center and competing with each other for a limited budget of raises and bonuses.
I forgot about why i left a great paying job where i could ask for more work and a sense of belonging. But each place i worked was disturbingly isolating with no human contact and long hours and i so wanted to inform my manager why i left and left this part out when they asked me why i was leaving. Mine was abrupt because the moving company came the wrong month and I had to scramble to secure that mover and ended up leaving without giving notice so they could hire a replacement for me. But was glad they worked with me on short notice. Really glad you touched on this issue.
I still don't fucking understand whats so great about "moving up in your career?" The only reward you get is more work, longer hours, more stress, and marginally better pay which you'll never get to use because you're too busy working and kissing ass!
More money is the only real motivation.
I agree. Once you reach a decent salary that you can live off of and have a solid amount of spending money for personal enjoyment, there's really no reason to desire growth imo. If I make good money, why would I care about moving up and getting more responsibilities and hours? I really don't see the point and I completely disagree when he implied that not wanting to move up in your career constantly is lazy
More money=more responsibility
Corporates do not respect boundaries
Your videos are fantastic. I left a toxic job this past June and landed a better job. Your videos were very helpful. Keep it up! 😊
What if you are a true introvert and like working in isolation? The best job I ever had was being in charge of contraband in a MH facility. My office space was a tiny closet and I loved it.
Wow.. thanks for the reality check. I'll have to listen back again later and actually take notes. Thank you for all the useful information you provide.
I wouldn't hate my career if i could do the work that i want to but i need 60-100k in degrees to do the work i want to do so i work a job i dont like to pay bills.
Here is the thing everyone is in a different boat. Some have years if not decades of experience working in the same field of work. Some are more willingly to work OT alot some dont want that. Employers laying off people left and right nowadays also very Tight job market despite of "awesomne" job reports... lol of bunch of low paying bs jobs.
Some are in managerial positions bc of their dedication, seniority, and skills. Some do the bare minimum and want to clock out.
Taking a risk?
This is my main points.
Taking online classes most are expensive or pursuing for a higher degree like a masters, or Certificate or license can be costly and makes people go in more DEBT. I dont like putting myself in more debt. I hate owing money to anyone. Let alone interest rates, penalties, and fees that might accrue if you fail your classes, lose interest, or a personal issue comes up. Taking a RISK whether its calculated or not might work and who knows really help you succeed in life in general or you might lose it all. Thats why majority people are "comfortable" in their specific situation. They dont want to go more in debt or crazy expensive loan, or risk losing their home, car, family, etc. America is a business thats all it is at the end of the day all about money, and how lenders, companies, stakeholders, co-founders and whatever control the system of lending, and controlling our finances and our debts.
People switch jobs more often now like every 2-3 years for most. People want flexibility not a written in stone you have to work 8 hours a day and thats it. Work to life balance, adjusted wage inflation pay, and low taxes, with decent benefits. Is it a crime to want to enjoy life outside work? Being a wage slave in the system until we die? and no im not promoting laziness.
Dont get me started on the joke of vacation days employers provide its a cruel joke lol heres one week paid vacation per year lmfao. Thats why people had enough being taken advantage of i dont blame them. Oh after working here for 10-20 years will give you another week thats almost a 1/4 of your life gone. Lastly management some of these "bosses" or "Supervisors" might be great people but there is alot of them that will throw you under the bus. Example if you make one or two small mistakes and might just not like you as a person even if you dont cause problems, are quiet maybe your introverted, and are not "engaging" enough they will give you warnings or possible termination. Its a cruel world.
What happens when you end up regretting every career decision you made over the past 20 years, even when you thought the decisions were good? And when you ask people how THEY succeeded, they just shrug and tell you to keep plugging away at it? 🤷🏻♂️🙄
Almost sounds like it's endorsing "work hard, party hard" atmosphere, and hanging out the "it growd".
Did HR and recruitment for a company, where everyone seemed to appreciate my work and kept piling more, but just seemed not to like me as a person. It sucked sooooo hard.
Took a risk and started at entry level on a different field, but enjoying working with people, who likes to work with me. Pretty sure i didn't change, except of still carrying depression. Just stopped working against my core values.
Thank you for your content! As someone who is switching careers to something more of a desk job, it’s very helpful to have pointers, optimism, and potential pitfalls to avoid. It’s interesting to read the comments and see the attitudes I might face in the workplace. Thank you for your contributions!
haha, I took a risk 2 years ago, the job was a cultural 180, for the worse, so much busy work it was like drinking from a fire hose with nearly 0 support, burnt out after 4 months, went back to my old job and swore I'd never leave. Not learning new personalities ANYMORE.
As someone who has autism, getting a good social circle is not an option at all and unfortunately is next to impossible unless if i happen to find someone who's similar situation as me
This makes it miserable socially regardless as i tend to be treated as an outcast even if i don't try
Currently unemployed though for a year and don't see it getting any better so its not like it matters anymore
Fellow autist here. The fact that social interaction doesn't come naturally to us makes working that muscle all the more important for both mental and physical health. I've learned a good counselor and a good church go a long way.
@@sanshinobi3664 I've been through those two already and they kinda did more harm than good
I enjoy working. I make a very good hourly wage, easy work and hope to be able to work way past retirement age
I disagree that we shouldn't compare ourselves to our peers. At some point, we should! If you work at a job for 4 years and you are still getting paid the same entry level salary that you got hired in at, that should be questioned. Even after you gained so many skills and proved your proficiency in these skills, companies need a reality check every now and then when talents leave for better opportunities.
Awwww....i like this.....this is the lighter part of Bryan's reality checks that I like.
I agree. I did this when I was at Dell and continued doing that in my current organization!
These days are mostly Customers first over the employes. I had a manager who focused too much on clients over the working ethics and norm we workers had to follow.
I'm glad the current grocery allowed me to do my best and not pressure in my job unlike the previous one
I forgot to mention most no longer care if the workers are students and need a stable job to balance the schedule. This is the situation in Canada right now
Don't go into speech path.
what
@@AnonYmous-mw5lc , Speech Pathology major. Too much stress for too little money. Master's required. I speak from experience.
What if people you hired have been promoted above you?
Need help. Got laid off in late May. I've been looking since Jan though (so 8+ months now). This market is so incredibly competitive. Ghost jobs everywhere but we have to take that chance anyway. Perfect fit, but not hearing back because it's simply competitive, there are a lot of perfect fits.
My question is, how do you manage the inevitable discouragement of not having any progress on the jobs you've applied to when you have 10+ irons per week in the fire, and customize your resume to each one, ensuring you're a match in the first place?
How are people staying unemployed. If it were me, i would've got any job like security overnight so i could be free to do interviews during the day.
@@asadb1990 Interesting. I have a friend who's been in security for years and is now unemployed. Applied for a security role - contract is all that was available in his area - and at the last minute, they rug pulled him. Either they didn't need the security after all, or they just found someone cheaper. I would be interested to see what your experience getting hired (even if you rejected the offer - just for testing the theory) would be for getting a night-time security role in 2024? It really is competitive out there. I've always been able to land a job within a month or so, never took me 8+ months before. This is different.
Thanks for the tip, though. For now it makes more sense to use the time provided by unemployment benefits to level up skills and keep working on the actual roles I'm targeting since unemployment benefits will be taken away once you make more than $300/week at another job, so that's not a long-term plan in my case, but if nearing the end of the benefits, we still don't have something, I will check that out as an alternative, though it's not likely to pay the bills, it can help us go on a little longer, I'll just be pretty tired when it's time to do morning or day-time interviews, but you do what you gotta do in 2024.
@@asadb1990 Youre funny. You're saying it as if its easy. Why don't you make a video showing that it's that easy? You have 24 hours to prove you get a non self employed career. Its that easy right? You shouldn't have any issues. I will be waiting. You don't have to accept the job by the way so you have no excuses
@@soaringstars314 well i personally have multiple jobs so i don't have to rely on unemployment
Also unfortunately you got laid off at the wrong time. I know people who have a lot of experience struggling too to find a job which is why nobody is quitting. Dont think i can even stand a chance in this economy anymore
Always skipped company parties. Big career mistake to do so. I am no alcohol, no sugar person. So it is really hard. My classmates got really good jobs by hanging out at the bars. Easy to make connections.
I always tell younger guys to attend company parties, job fairs and as many conferences as possible. You don’t have to drink, you have to socialise…and I’m an introvert, but I view this as a part of the job. Events like these are full of likeminded peers, recruiters, CEOs, entrepreneurs, etc…Every contact you create opens up opportunities and makes you less reliant on your current employer.
My fellow rats . We work and We die 💪
My struggle is that I work in an exempt and excluded position (no over time pay), but the long work hours seems to be a norm. So is it really worth it, chasing the salary and trading off time.
Customer is abroad. I do a good job and our management hears about it, wonders how come cause they think if I don't kiss their behind I'm a generally bad guy. Doesn't matter much since they're just waiting for all the projects to end to close everything down.
What if the job sucks, it is downstreak to my career but it is better then nothing? At least it is remote and I can continue to seek better opportunity.
I don't think there are any five star employers anymore but if you know of one, please comment.
A five star employer is one that:
- provides career mentoring and training
- they only fire people as an absolute last resort
- employees rarely go on stress leave
- a promotion doesn't mean just a new job title with 2% higher pay and 20% more work
- their pay and benefits are competitive so they attract the best talent
How come subordinates can't say "No" to managers that are really bad managers? Why do they get to fail and keep their jobs, and why are subordinates expected to follow failures blindly? 🤣
Can you do some videos about OE? (Overemployment/working multiple full time jobs)
I like work!
I’ve heard you mention in a couple places about niching down and having a clear trajectory in one’s career. In that vein, would it be bad if a person working in business/sales for a couple of years, but is at a low salary bracket, went to work for close to double their pay in a manufacturing labor job while they tried to get a different job in business/sales?
It's not my career, it's my horrible customers that have sucked the life out of me.
Agreed
I used to have a union job where I was very miserable there, was extremely underpaid and I was looked down on a lot. Now with my non-union job I'm a lot happier, appreciated and made at least double my annual income than that of my union job. What a country! 🤷
This doesn’t apply to third world countries.
Don’t worry. America will be there too before you know it 😢
@PatrickStar12341 don't worry, they're in the tech, medical, and 7/11 industry already
Yeah, and that’s probably not his target audience. What’s your point?